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     1. 10:56 AM - Re: A/P manager or lack thereof (Mike Horton)
     2. 12:39 PM - Re: Re: A/P manager or lack thereof (John Cox)
 
 
 


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    Time: 10:56:46 AM PST US
    From: "Mike Horton" <mikesaero@ubtanet.com>
    Subject: Re: A/P manager or lack thereof
    Again and again this seems to be a re-occurring nightmare. Here in Vernal, Utah we had a very similar circumstance. The airport manager was hired because he had a degree in communication. Along that line he also rode in a C-206 as a boy scout and ascended to the level of flight attendant for Delta. He was the type that probably wouldn't have give you the rest of the coke or even an extra bag of peanuts. After several run-ins with his batch of new policies (much supported by overzealous FAA officials, we formed an airport users association. This initially was formed to combat unlawful raids on private hangars conducted by said a/p manager and county law enforcement. When the a/p manager by his negligence failed to remove snow adequately and kept pressing unimportant issues we finally levered the county to help him move on. Strength in numbers! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rocket-List Digest Server" <rocket-list@matronics.com> Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 12:58 AM Subject: Rocket-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 08/23/08 > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete Rocket-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the Rocket-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 08-08-23&Archive=Rocket > > Text Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 08-08-23&Archive=Rocket > > > =============================================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > =============================================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Rocket-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Sat 08/23/08: 4 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 03:27 AM - Re: Las Vegas Aircraft Crash (nico css) > 2. 06:08 AM - Re: airport managers (capmrp) > 3. 08:27 AM - Re: Las Vegas Aircraft Crash (John Cox) > 4. 04:43 PM - Re: North LAS Airport Management (lack of) > (Speedy11@aol.com) > > > ________________________________ Message 1 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 03:27:24 AM PST US > From: "nico css" <nico@cybersuperstore.com> > Subject: RE: Rocket-List: Las Vegas Aircraft Crash > > He saw an opportunity to further his career on the back others' > misfortune, > all right. I hope cooler heads prevail and laugh this fool off the stage. > > > _____ > > From: owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Gummo > Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 9:05 PM > Subject: Rocket-List: Las Vegas Aircraft Crash > > > Subject: Las Vegas Aircraft Crash > > > I heard about a Velocity crashing into a house and killing the pilot and > two > people in the house while trying to land at North Las Vegas. It was the > flight test period as the plane only had 5 hours of flight time. I went > on > the Internet to find a little more info. I was shocked to read the > comments > of the airport director. > > Quote from the website: > > http://www.lasvegasnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=8883721 > <http://www.lasvegasnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=8883721&nav=168Ye9lq> > &nav=168Ye9lq > > According to Airport Director Randall Walker, this incident is the worst > air > accident off the airport grounds in Las Vegas history. Now for the first > time, Walker is publicly calling for more local control over what aircraft > come in and out of airports. > > Walker says the airport has no control over what aircraft fly in and > out -- > there hasn't even been a risk assessment for what kind of risks these > experimental aircraft may pose. But he says he is going to start lobbying > to > get Congress to change the law and allow airports to have more control. > > But again, Randall Walker says that these kinds of aircraft do not belong > in > urban areas. > >>From AirNav website: > > > Ownership: > > Publicly-owned > > > Owner: > > CLARK COUNTY > 2730 AIRPORT DR SUITE 101 > NORTH LAS VEGAS, NV 89030 > Phone 702-261-3802 > > > Manager: > > DOUG MCNEELEY > 2730 AIRPORT DR SUITE 101 > NORTH LAS VEGAS, NV 89030 > Phone 702-261-3800 > MGR. ALSO 702-261-3802. AL KRISCH, MANAGEMENT ANALYST II 702.261.3804 > 702.647.7508 (FAX) NORTH LAS VEGAS AIRPORT 2730 AIRPORT DRIVE, SUITE 101 > NORTH LAS VEGAS, NV 89032 > >>From website: <http://www.aci-na.org/about/leadership_walker> > http://www.aci-na.org/about/leadership_walker > > Prior to his appointment as the director of aviation, Walker was assistant > county manager for Clark County from 1996 to 1997. As assistant county > manager, he oversaw 12 county departments and provided fiscal oversight > for > District Court, Justice Court, and all of Clark County's elected > officials. > In 1995, Walker served as director of the county's Department of Finance. > > **************************************************************************** > ******************************** > > I read the complete bio and there was no indication of any aviation > experience. My first question is why do ANTI-AVIATION types, who are not > pilots and have no flying experience, rise up to get airport director > jobs? > For example, the new director of airports for San Bernardino County, CA is > not a pilot. My info maybe old, but the Navy had a rule that to command > an > aircraft carrier, you had to be a pilot. Might make a good rule for > airport > managers. > > (Sour grapes alert.) > > I might have a chip on my shoulder about this. As the manager of Apple > Valley, CA (KAPV) airport job because available, I was not given a > interview > as I didn't have a BA business degree. My Masters Degree in Computer > Science and a BS in Chemistry of course, didn't prepare me to run a > airport. > However, I also have twenty years of military experience as a flight > safety > officer and Supervisor of Flying. > > (Enough sour grapes.) > > Seems to me, we need to get EAA and AOPA on this right away before it gets > out of hand. > > Please write and call anybody you think can help. > > Tom Gummo > Apple Valley, CA > Harmon Rocket-II > > do not archive > > http://mysite.verizon.net/t.gummo/index.html > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature > database 3375 (20080821) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > > MATRONICS > > > --> http://forums.matronics.com > > > ________________________________ Message 2 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 06:08:01 AM PST US > From: capmrp <capmrp@cfu.net> > Subject: Rocket-List: Re: airport managers > > > I'm afraid the main qualification for airport managers these days is > the ability to do the bidding of the local city council AND to pull in > as many federal funds as possible. Once they get good at those two, > they suddenly find themselves qualified to pass judgement on what's > good or not, for general aviation at large. Just amazing and just the > kind of thing AOPA and EAA love to sink their teeth into. Go git 'em! > > Mike > > > ________________________________ Message 3 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 08:27:28 AM PST US > Subject: RE: Rocket-List: Las Vegas Aircraft Crash > From: "John Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> > > Just as the airport administrator said, pilots just as he is goint to > should contact their local congressional members. NASAO is a group you > should all become aware of. These are the bureaucrats nationwide who > try to maximize their salary and the funds to their respective airport > by restricting selected group of pilot operations. It is ironic that > FAM grants and other federal funds are based on take-offs and landings. > Without GA, many commercial operation airports would cease to exist > because they do not meet the requirement for funds. These are the guys > that increase restaurant costs, gasoline costs, rental car costs, > parking costs and smile as they take their state mandated holidays each > year. > > > His actions will do nothing to reduce accidents. > > > John C > > > From: owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of nico css > Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 3:26 AM > Subject: RE: Rocket-List: Las Vegas Aircraft Crash > > > He saw an opportunity to further his career on the back others' > misfortune, all right. I hope cooler heads prevail and laugh this fool > off the stage. > > > ________________________________ > > From: owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Gummo > Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 9:05 PM > Subject: Rocket-List: Las Vegas Aircraft Crash > > > Subject: Las Vegas Aircraft Crash > > > I heard about a Velocity crashing into a house and killing the pilot and > two people in the house while trying to land at North Las Vegas. It was > the flight test period as the plane only had 5 hours of flight time. I > went on the Internet to find a little more info. I was shocked to read > the comments of the airport director. > > Quote from the website: > > http://www.lasvegasnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=8883721&nav=168Ye9lq > > According to Airport Director Randall Walker, this incident is the worst > air accident off the airport grounds in Las Vegas history. Now for the > first time, Walker is publicly calling for more local control over what > aircraft come in and out of airports. > > Walker says the airport has no control over what aircraft fly in and out > -- there hasn't even been a risk assessment for what kind of risks these > experimental aircraft may pose. But he says he is going to start > lobbying to get Congress to change the law and allow airports to have > more control. > > But again, Randall Walker says that these kinds of aircraft do not > belong in urban areas. > >>From AirNav website: > > Ownership: > > Publicly-owned > > Owner: > > CLARK COUNTY > 2730 AIRPORT DR SUITE 101 > NORTH LAS VEGAS, NV 89030 > Phone 702-261-3802 > > Manager: > > DOUG MCNEELEY > 2730 AIRPORT DR SUITE 101 > NORTH LAS VEGAS, NV 89030 > Phone 702-261-3800 > MGR. ALSO 702-261-3802. AL KRISCH, MANAGEMENT ANALYST II 702.261.3804 > 702.647.7508 (FAX) NORTH LAS VEGAS AIRPORT 2730 AIRPORT DRIVE, SUITE 101 > NORTH LAS VEGAS, NV 89032 > >>From website: http://www.aci-na.org/about/leadership_walker > <http://www.aci-na.org/about/leadership_walker> > > Prior to his appointment as the director of aviation, Walker was > assistant county manager for Clark County from 1996 to 1997. As > assistant county manager, he oversaw 12 county departments and provided > fiscal oversight for District Court, Justice Court, and all of Clark > County's elected officials. In 1995, Walker served as director of the > county's Department of Finance. > > ************************************************************************ > ************************************ > > I read the complete bio and there was no indication of any aviation > experience. My first question is why do ANTI-AVIATION types, who are > not pilots and have no flying experience, rise up to get airport > director jobs? For example, the new director of airports for San > Bernardino County, CA is not a pilot. My info maybe old, but the Navy > had a rule that to command an aircraft carrier, you had to be a pilot. > Might make a good rule for airport managers. > > (Sour grapes alert.) > > I might have a chip on my shoulder about this. As the manager of Apple > Valley, CA (KAPV) airport job because available, I was not given a > interview as I didn't have a BA business degree. My Masters Degree in > Computer Science and a BS in Chemistry of course, didn't prepare me to > run a airport. However, I also have twenty years of military experience > as a flight safety officer and Supervisor of Flying. > > (Enough sour grapes.) > > Seems to me, we need to get EAA and AOPA on this right away before it > gets out of hand. > > Please write and call anybody you think can help. > > Tom Gummo > Apple Valley, CA > Harmon Rocket-II > > do not archive > > http://mysite.verizon.net/t.gummo/index.html > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 3375 (20080821) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Rocket-List > --> http://forums.matronics.com > -Matt > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > o > ntribution > ========== > > > ________________________________ Message 4 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 04:43:51 PM PST US > From: Speedy11@aol.com > Subject: Rocket-List: Re: North LAS Airport Management (lack of) > > > Being a pilot does not insure that one has good judgement. > > > It does when it comes to airport management and operation! > ALL airport managers should be pilots. > Stan Sutterfield > > > **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your > travel > deal here. > (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047) > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > 6:32 PM > > >


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    Time: 12:39:06 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: A/P manager or lack thereof
    From: "John Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
    Congratulations on learning how to effectively deal with NASAO personnel. John Cox -----Original Message----- From: owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Horton Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 10:56 AM Subject: Rocket-List: Re: A/P manager or lack thereof Again and again this seems to be a re-occurring nightmare. Here in Vernal, Utah we had a very similar circumstance. The airport manager was hired because he had a degree in communication. Along that line he also rode in a C-206 as a boy scout and ascended to the level of flight attendant for Delta. He was the type that probably wouldn't have give you the rest of the coke or even an extra bag of peanuts. After several run-ins with his batch of new policies (much supported by overzealous FAA officials, we formed an airport users association. This initially was formed to combat unlawful raids on private hangars conducted by said a/p manager and county law enforcement. When the a/p manager by his negligence failed to remove snow adequately and kept pressing unimportant issues we finally levered the county to help him move on. Strength in numbers! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rocket-List Digest Server" <rocket-list@matronics.com> Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 12:58 AM Subject: Rocket-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 08/23/08 > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete Rocket-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the Rocket-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Cha pter 08-08-23&Archive=Rocket > > Text Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chap ter 08-08-23&Archive=Rocket > > > =============================================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > =============================================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Rocket-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Sat 08/23/08: 4 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 03:27 AM - Re: Las Vegas Aircraft Crash (nico css) > 2. 06:08 AM - Re: airport managers (capmrp) > 3. 08:27 AM - Re: Las Vegas Aircraft Crash (John Cox) > 4. 04:43 PM - Re: North LAS Airport Management (lack of) > (Speedy11@aol.com) > > > ________________________________ Message 1 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 03:27:24 AM PST US > From: "nico css" <nico@cybersuperstore.com> > Subject: RE: Rocket-List: Las Vegas Aircraft Crash > > He saw an opportunity to further his career on the back others' > misfortune, > all right. I hope cooler heads prevail and laugh this fool off the stage. > > > _____ > > From: owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Gummo > Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 9:05 PM > Subject: Rocket-List: Las Vegas Aircraft Crash > > > Subject: Las Vegas Aircraft Crash > > > I heard about a Velocity crashing into a house and killing the pilot and > two > people in the house while trying to land at North Las Vegas. It was the > flight test period as the plane only had 5 hours of flight time. I went > on > the Internet to find a little more info. I was shocked to read the > comments > of the airport director. > > Quote from the website: > > http://www.lasvegasnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=8883721 > <http://www.lasvegasnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=8883721&nav=168Ye9lq> > &nav=168Ye9lq > > According to Airport Director Randall Walker, this incident is the worst > air > accident off the airport grounds in Las Vegas history. Now for the first > time, Walker is publicly calling for more local control over what aircraft > come in and out of airports. > > Walker says the airport has no control over what aircraft fly in and > out -- > there hasn't even been a risk assessment for what kind of risks these > experimental aircraft may pose. But he says he is going to start lobbying > to > get Congress to change the law and allow airports to have more control. > > But again, Randall Walker says that these kinds of aircraft do not belong > in > urban areas. > >>From AirNav website: > > > Ownership: > > Publicly-owned > > > Owner: > > CLARK COUNTY > 2730 AIRPORT DR SUITE 101 > NORTH LAS VEGAS, NV 89030 > Phone 702-261-3802 > > > Manager: > > DOUG MCNEELEY > 2730 AIRPORT DR SUITE 101 > NORTH LAS VEGAS, NV 89030 > Phone 702-261-3800 > MGR. ALSO 702-261-3802. AL KRISCH, MANAGEMENT ANALYST II 702.261.3804 > 702.647.7508 (FAX) NORTH LAS VEGAS AIRPORT 2730 AIRPORT DRIVE, SUITE 101 > NORTH LAS VEGAS, NV 89032 > >>From website: <http://www.aci-na.org/about/leadership_walker> > http://www.aci-na.org/about/leadership_walker > > Prior to his appointment as the director of aviation, Walker was assistant > county manager for Clark County from 1996 to 1997. As assistant county > manager, he oversaw 12 county departments and provided fiscal oversight > for > District Court, Justice Court, and all of Clark County's elected > officials. > In 1995, Walker served as director of the county's Department of Finance. > > ************************************************************************ **** > ******************************** > > I read the complete bio and there was no indication of any aviation > experience. My first question is why do ANTI-AVIATION types, who are not > pilots and have no flying experience, rise up to get airport director > jobs? > For example, the new director of airports for San Bernardino County, CA is > not a pilot. My info maybe old, but the Navy had a rule that to command > an > aircraft carrier, you had to be a pilot. Might make a good rule for > airport > managers. > > (Sour grapes alert.) > > I might have a chip on my shoulder about this. As the manager of Apple > Valley, CA (KAPV) airport job because available, I was not given a > interview > as I didn't have a BA business degree. My Masters Degree in Computer > Science and a BS in Chemistry of course, didn't prepare me to run a > airport. > However, I also have twenty years of military experience as a flight > safety > officer and Supervisor of Flying. > > (Enough sour grapes.) > > Seems to me, we need to get EAA and AOPA on this right away before it gets > out of hand. > > Please write and call anybody you think can help. > > Tom Gummo > Apple Valley, CA > Harmon Rocket-II > > do not archive > > http://mysite.verizon.net/t.gummo/index.html > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature > database 3375 (20080821) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > > MATRONICS > > > --> http://forums.matronics.com > > > ________________________________ Message 2 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 06:08:01 AM PST US > From: capmrp <capmrp@cfu.net> > Subject: Rocket-List: Re: airport managers > > > I'm afraid the main qualification for airport managers these days is > the ability to do the bidding of the local city council AND to pull in > as many federal funds as possible. Once they get good at those two, > they suddenly find themselves qualified to pass judgement on what's > good or not, for general aviation at large. Just amazing and just the > kind of thing AOPA and EAA love to sink their teeth into. Go git 'em! > > Mike > > > ________________________________ Message 3 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 08:27:28 AM PST US > Subject: RE: Rocket-List: Las Vegas Aircraft Crash > From: "John Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> > > Just as the airport administrator said, pilots just as he is goint to > should contact their local congressional members. NASAO is a group you > should all become aware of. These are the bureaucrats nationwide who > try to maximize their salary and the funds to their respective airport > by restricting selected group of pilot operations. It is ironic that > FAM grants and other federal funds are based on take-offs and landings. > Without GA, many commercial operation airports would cease to exist > because they do not meet the requirement for funds. These are the guys > that increase restaurant costs, gasoline costs, rental car costs, > parking costs and smile as they take their state mandated holidays each > year. > > > His actions will do nothing to reduce accidents. > > > John C > > > From: owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of nico css > Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 3:26 AM > Subject: RE: Rocket-List: Las Vegas Aircraft Crash > > > He saw an opportunity to further his career on the back others' > misfortune, all right. I hope cooler heads prevail and laugh this fool > off the stage. > > > ________________________________ > > From: owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Gummo > Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 9:05 PM > Subject: Rocket-List: Las Vegas Aircraft Crash > > > Subject: Las Vegas Aircraft Crash > > > I heard about a Velocity crashing into a house and killing the pilot and > two people in the house while trying to land at North Las Vegas. It was > the flight test period as the plane only had 5 hours of flight time. I > went on the Internet to find a little more info. I was shocked to read > the comments of the airport director. > > Quote from the website: > > http://www.lasvegasnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=8883721&nav=168Ye9lq > > According to Airport Director Randall Walker, this incident is the worst > air accident off the airport grounds in Las Vegas history. Now for the > first time, Walker is publicly calling for more local control over what > aircraft come in and out of airports. > > Walker says the airport has no control over what aircraft fly in and out > -- there hasn't even been a risk assessment for what kind of risks these > experimental aircraft may pose. But he says he is going to start > lobbying to get Congress to change the law and allow airports to have > more control. > > But again, Randall Walker says that these kinds of aircraft do not > belong in urban areas. > >>From AirNav website: > > Ownership: > > Publicly-owned > > Owner: > > CLARK COUNTY > 2730 AIRPORT DR SUITE 101 > NORTH LAS VEGAS, NV 89030 > Phone 702-261-3802 > > Manager: > > DOUG MCNEELEY > 2730 AIRPORT DR SUITE 101 > NORTH LAS VEGAS, NV 89030 > Phone 702-261-3800 > MGR. ALSO 702-261-3802. AL KRISCH, MANAGEMENT ANALYST II 702.261.3804 > 702.647.7508 (FAX) NORTH LAS VEGAS AIRPORT 2730 AIRPORT DRIVE, SUITE 101 > NORTH LAS VEGAS, NV 89032 > >>From website: http://www.aci-na.org/about/leadership_walker > <http://www.aci-na.org/about/leadership_walker> > > Prior to his appointment as the director of aviation, Walker was > assistant county manager for Clark County from 1996 to 1997. As > assistant county manager, he oversaw 12 county departments and provided > fiscal oversight for District Court, Justice Court, and all of Clark > County's elected officials. In 1995, Walker served as director of the > county's Department of Finance. > > ************************************************************************ > ************************************ > > I read the complete bio and there was no indication of any aviation > experience. My first question is why do ANTI-AVIATION types, who are > not pilots and have no flying experience, rise up to get airport > director jobs? For example, the new director of airports for San > Bernardino County, CA is not a pilot. My info maybe old, but the Navy > had a rule that to command an aircraft carrier, you had to be a pilot. > Might make a good rule for airport managers. > > (Sour grapes alert.) > > I might have a chip on my shoulder about this. As the manager of Apple > Valley, CA (KAPV) airport job because available, I was not given a > interview as I didn't have a BA business degree. My Masters Degree in > Computer Science and a BS in Chemistry of course, didn't prepare me to > run a airport. However, I also have twenty years of military experience > as a flight safety officer and Supervisor of Flying. > > (Enough sour grapes.) > > Seems to me, we need to get EAA and AOPA on this right away before it > gets out of hand. > > Please write and call anybody you think can help. > > Tom Gummo > Apple Valley, CA > Harmon Rocket-II > > do not archive > > http://mysite.verizon.net/t.gummo/index.html > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 3375 (20080821) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Rocket-List > --> http://forums.matronics.com > -Matt > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > o > ntribution > ========== > > > ________________________________ Message 4 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 04:43:51 PM PST US > From: Speedy11@aol.com > Subject: Rocket-List: Re: North LAS Airport Management (lack of) > > > Being a pilot does not insure that one has good judgement. > > > It does when it comes to airport management and operation! > ALL airport managers should be pilots. > Stan Sutterfield > > > **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your > travel > deal here. > (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047) > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > 6:32 PM > > >




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