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So tell me what does this mean for us peons?
As seen in AVweb
A total of 454 airports will be subject to the TSA's latest Security
Directive (SD-8G) restricting the movements of transient pilots,
<http://eaa.org/news/2009/2009-06-09_list.asp>EAA said this week. The
list includes airports in Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, American
Samoa, and Guam as well as in the U.S.
<http://eaa.org/news/2009/2009-06-09_tsa_airportlist.pdf>Click here
for the full list (PDF). The directive took effect June 1 and
requires pilots to "remain close to their aircraft," leaving it only
for trips to and from the FBO or airport exit,
<http://www.aopa.org/advocacy/articles/2009/090528tsa.html>according
to AOPA, although some airports may also offer escorts to transient pilots.
Since individual airports may develop a variety of programs that
would satisfy the TSA directive, pilots need to call ahead to their
destinations and ask the airport operator or an FBO on the field for
information about that airport's security requirements, EAA says. The
TSA is expected to provide future guidance regarding self-fueling and
emergencies. The full text of the security directive has not been
made public. The new listing of airports is not the same as a
<http://www.avweb.com/pdf/general_aviation_affected_airports_2009-01.pdf>list
of airports (PDF) released by the TSA in January for the Large
Aircraft Security Program.
<http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/1392-full.html#200528>CUSTOMS
AND BORDER PROTECTION JUSTIFIES RAMP CHECK
A spokeswoman for the Washington headquarters of U.S. Customs and
Border Protection (CBP) says the drawing of weapons in the ramp
inspection of an aircraft in Long Beach, Calif., last month was
justified but not "normal." Kelly Ivahnenko also told AVweb that
general aviation pilots can expect more ramp checks by CBP agents
thanks to the newly-instituted Electronic Advance Passenger
Information System (eAPIS). She stressed it's unlikely many of the
checks will have the level of intensity employed May 22 with Long
Beach, Calif., pilot David Perry and his three passengers. Ivahnenko
said in an interview on Tuesday that there was a "heightened alert"
involved in the Long Beach operation but she also said she could not
discuss the circumstances that led to a more aggressive posture than
normal by the CBP and local police. She also said that while eAPIS
had nothing to do with the Long Beach inspection, information
provided through eAPIS could result in more frequent GA inspections.
The system, which involves the online filing of flight and passenger
information for transborder flights, became mandatory on May 18. In
an
<http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/news/PilotProtestsCustomsCheck_200519-1.html>interview
and <http://www.avweb.com/alm?podcast20090608&kw=RelatedStory>podcast
with AVweb, Perry said he and his passengers were put in unnecessary
peril by gun-wielding enforcement officials. Ivahnenko stressed
Perry's experience is not what most pilots should expect if they're
checked by the CBP. "This I would not classify as common or routine,"
she said. She said the Long Beach action was justified, even though
the search turned up nothing illegal. "While the involvement of more
than one law enforcement agency and the heightened alert of the
situation were slightly unusual, it is within (CBP's) authority to
inspect inbound and outbound travelers, vehicles, planes, cargo,
etc.," she told AVweb. She also said that only the Long Beach police
officers assisting the operation actually drew weapons and CBP agents
kept theirs holstered, something Perry vehemently disputes. "Every
one of them had their weapons out," Perry said.
<http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/1392-full.html#200528>More...
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| Subject: | Back in the USSR! |
So tell me what does this mean for us peons?
As seen in AVweb
A total of 454 airports will be subject to the TSA's latest Security
Directive (SD-8G) restricting the movements of transient pilots,
<http://eaa.org/news/2009/2009-06-09_list.asp>EAA said this week. The
list includes airports in Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, American
Samoa, and Guam as well as in the U.S.
<http://eaa.org/news/2009/2009-06-09_tsa_airportlist.pdf>Click here
for the full list (PDF). The directive took effect June 1 and
requires pilots to "remain close to their aircraft," leaving it only
for trips to and from the FBO or airport exit,
<http://www.aopa.org/advocacy/articles/2009/090528tsa.html>according
to AOPA, although some airports may also offer escorts to transient pilots.
Since individual airports may develop a variety of programs that
would satisfy the TSA directive, pilots need to call ahead to their
destinations and ask the airport operator or an FBO on the field for
information about that airport's security requirements, EAA says. The
TSA is expected to provide future guidance regarding self-fueling and
emergencies. The full text of the security directive has not been
made public. The new listing of airports is not the same as a
<http://www.avweb.com/pdf/general_aviation_affected_airports_2009-01.pdf>list
of airports (PDF) released by the TSA in January for the Large
Aircraft Security Program.
<http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/1392-full.html#200528>CUSTOMS
AND BORDER PROTECTION JUSTIFIES RAMP CHECK
A spokeswoman for the Washington headquarters of U.S. Customs and
Border Protection (CBP) says the drawing of weapons in the ramp
inspection of an aircraft in Long Beach, Calif., last month was
justified but not "normal." Kelly Ivahnenko also told AVweb that
general aviation pilots can expect more ramp checks by CBP agents
thanks to the newly-instituted Electronic Advance Passenger
Information System (eAPIS). She stressed it's unlikely many of the
checks will have the level of intensity employed May 22 with Long
Beach, Calif., pilot David Perry and his three passengers. Ivahnenko
said in an interview on Tuesday that there was a "heightened alert"
involved in the Long Beach operation but she also said she could not
discuss the circumstances that led to a more aggressive posture than
normal by the CBP and local police. She also said that while eAPIS
had nothing to do with the Long Beach inspection, information
provided through eAPIS could result in more frequent GA inspections.
The system, which involves the online filing of flight and passenger
information for transborder flights, became mandatory on May 18. In
an
<http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/news/PilotProtestsCustomsCheck_200519-1.html>interview
and <http://www.avweb.com/alm?podcast20090608&kw=RelatedStory>podcast
with AVweb, Perry said he and his passengers were put in unnecessary
peril by gun-wielding enforcement officials. Ivahnenko stressed
Perry's experience is not what most pilots should expect if they're
checked by the CBP. "This I would not classify as common or routine,"
she said. She said the Long Beach action was justified, even though
the search turned up nothing illegal. "While the involvement of more
than one law enforcement agency and the heightened alert of the
situation were slightly unusual, it is within (CBP's) authority to
inspect inbound and outbound travelers, vehicles, planes, cargo,
etc.," she told AVweb. She also said that only the Long Beach police
officers assisting the operation actually drew weapons and CBP agents
kept theirs holstered, something Perry vehemently disputes. "Every
one of them had their weapons out," Perry said.
<http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/1392-full.html#200528>More...
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Folks,
I am fuming mad.
The Long Beach action against private citizens is an atrocity. One can
understand if there were concerns for suspicious or dangerous persons on
that flight, but from all accounts this was a flight by all standards
similar to an outing with the family in one's automobile in the countryside.
Some brainless twit in Long Beach with a jackboot fetish decided to show his
or her prowess that day and ordered a full-scale scare initiative. I was
taught from childhood that you don't point a firearm at anybody unless you
are prepared to use it. There is no justification for assuming otherwise
with law enforcement.
Shame on Kelly Ivahnenko for defending this outrageous behavior of the rogue
priests of covert fascism. What would you have done, Kelly, if one of the
drawn weapons discharged accidentally? Or, suppose one of the passengers
lowered his hand to open the door or prevent from stumbling trying to get
out of the plane under extreme duress and one of the officers perceived that
as reaching for a weapon? I can already hear your sheepish and inadequate
response by extrapolating it from your answer here. What a shameful thing to
defend! Those who do not advocate for your dismissal and those at Long
Beach, for incompetence, is just as guilty.
Stressing that this experience is not what most pilots should expect when
they are checked by the CBP is a shameful and ignorant statement, insulting
everybody's intelligence including yours. Tell us, then, Kelly, what should
pilots expect when they are checked by the CBP? What percentage could expect
drawn weapons pointed at their parents or children that happen to be with
them that day? And don't say that it will happen only when there is
justified belief of a suspicious passenger or pilot involved because you
already defended an action where such prior knowledge was not present; on
the contrary, all indications were that there were no suspicious persons on
board that flight. If your agency embarked on a course to totally destroy
general aviation, you have certainly shown the methods by which you want to
accomplish that goal.
I would sue their friggin' pants off, Perry, not to inhibit legitimate
pursuit of security but to eradicate this and exactly this kind of tyranny.
Nico
_____
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Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 7:22 AM
Subject: Rocket-List: Back in the USSR!
So tell me what does this mean for us peons?
As seen in AVweb
A total of 454 airports will be subject to the TSA's latest Security
Directive (SD-8G) restricting the movements of transient pilots, EAA said
<http://eaa.org/news/2009/2009-06-09_list.asp> this week. The list includes
airports in Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, American Samoa, and Guam as
well as in the U.S. Click here for
<http://eaa.org/news/2009/2009-06-09_tsa_airportlist.pdf> the full list
(PDF). The directive took effect June 1 and requires pilots to "remain close
to their aircraft," leaving it only for trips to and from the FBO or airport
exit, according to
<http://www.aopa.org/advocacy/articles/2009/090528tsa.html> AOPA, although
some airports may also offer escorts to transient pilots.
Since individual airports may develop a variety of programs that would
satisfy the TSA directive, pilots need to call ahead to their destinations
and ask the airport operator or an FBO on the field for information about
that airport's security requirements, EAA says. The TSA is expected to
provide future guidance regarding self-fueling and emergencies. The full
text of the security directive has not been made public. The new listing of
airports is not the same as a list
<http://www.avweb.com/pdf/general_aviation_affected_airports_2009-01.pdf> of
airports (PDF) released by the TSA in January for the Large Aircraft
Security Program.
CUSTOMS
<http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/1392-full.html#200528> AND
BORDER PROTECTION JUSTIFIES RAMP CHECK
A spokeswoman for the Washington headquarters of U.S. Customs and Border
Protection (CBP) says the drawing of weapons in the ramp inspection of an
aircraft in Long Beach, Calif., last month was justified but not "normal."
Kelly Ivahnenko also told AVweb that general aviation pilots can expect more
ramp checks by CBP agents thanks to the newly-instituted Electronic Advance
Passenger Information System (eAPIS). She stressed it's unlikely many of the
checks will have the level of intensity employed May 22 with Long Beach,
Calif., pilot David Perry and his three passengers. Ivahnenko said in an
interview on Tuesday that there was a "heightened alert" involved in the
Long Beach operation but she also said she could not discuss the
circumstances that led to a more aggressive posture than normal by the CBP
and local police. She also said that while eAPIS had nothing to do with the
Long Beach inspection, information provided through eAPIS could result in
more frequent GA inspections. The system, which involves the online filing
of flight and passenger information for transborder flights, became
mandatory on May 18. In an interview
<http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/news/PilotProtestsCustomsCheck_200519-1.htm
l> and podcast <http://www.avweb.com/alm?podcast20090608&kw=RelatedStory>
with AVweb, Perry said he and his passengers were put in unnecessary peril
by gun-wielding enforcement officials. Ivahnenko stressed Perry's experience
is not what most pilots should expect if they're checked by the CBP. "This I
would not classify as common or routine," she said. She said the Long Beach
action was justified, even though the search turned up nothing illegal.
"While the involvement of more than one law enforcement agency and the
heightened alert of the situation were slightly unusual, it is within
(CBP's) authority to inspect inbound and outbound travelers, vehicles,
planes, cargo, etc.," she told AVweb. She also said that only the Long Beach
police officers assisting the operation actually drew weapons and CBP agents
kept theirs holstered, something Perry vehemently disputes. "Every one of
them had their weapons out," Perry said. More...
<http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/1392-full.html#200528>
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