---------------------------------------------------------- Rocket-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 01/10/10: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:53 PM - speed issues (Frazier, Vincent A) 2. 04:47 PM - Re: speed issues (nico css) 3. 06:49 PM - Re: speed issues (Ernest Hale) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:53:47 PM PST US From: "Frazier, Vincent A" Subject: Rocket-List: speed issues Full down elevator at cruise? I hope you mean down trim... but then what happens with a pax? More info needed! If what you say is true, then there are other issues than speed to be worried about first. Regarding a well known accident, the tail came off of a Rocket due to a MAJOR builder error that absolutely would have been caught had the builder had nearly any reasonably competent RV or Rocket builder do a pre-inspection inspection, i.e. an inspection before the feds arrived and definitely before anyone flew it. It really SUCKS that this happened so needlessly. For goodness sakes guys, no matter how much of a stud you think you are, have at least one, and preferably two sets of competent, independent eyes look over your work before you fly a new bird. For example, we've got a local guy who has flown since WWII and has been an engineer all his life. He's as sharp as anyone I know, but he's had several (at least five) off airport excursions/incidents/accidents in his homebuilt because he won't take advantage of the EAA tech counselors or flight advisors. (The saying "You can always tell a german, but you can't tell him much" applies here!) The gentleman in question is without a doubt the luckiest man I know, but he really makes it tough on the rest of us out here. He is also the most stubborn, hard headed person I know. He also totaled his C-170 and then fixed it literally with duct tape, bailing wire, and a sledge hammer. They're out there and walk among us. Amazing. Back to the issues at hand. built right, there aren't any issues with the tails coming off the Rockets. Vince www.flyboyaccessories.com ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:47:23 PM PST US From: "nico css" Subject: RE: Rocket-List: speed issues I was worried about the full down elevator and the yaw in rain stories. I guess things have to be checked on those airframes before they defy gravity again. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Frazier, Vincent A Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 3:47 PM Subject: Rocket-List: speed issues --> Full down elevator at cruise? I hope you mean down trim... but then what happens with a pax? More info needed! If what you say is true, then there are other issues than speed to be worried about first. Regarding a well known accident, the tail came off of a Rocket due to a MAJOR builder error that absolutely would have been caught had the builder had nearly any reasonably competent RV or Rocket builder do a pre-inspection inspection, i.e. an inspection before the feds arrived and definitely before anyone flew it. It really SUCKS that this happened so needlessly. For goodness sakes guys, no matter how much of a stud you think you are, have at least one, and preferably two sets of competent, independent eyes look over your work before you fly a new bird. For example, we've got a local guy who has flown since WWII and has been an engineer all his life. He's as sharp as anyone I know, but he's had several (at least five) off airport excursions/incidents/accidents in his homebuilt because he won't take advantage of the EAA tech counselors or flight advisors. (The saying "You can always tell a german, but you can't tell him much" applies here!) The gentleman in question is without a doubt the luckiest man I know, but he really makes it tough on the rest of us out here. He is also the most stubborn, hard headed person I know. He also totaled his C-170 and then fixed it literally with duct tape, bailing wire, and a sledge hammer. They're out there and walk among us. Amazing. Back to the issues at hand. built right, there aren't any issues with the tails coming off the Rockets. Vince www.flyboyaccessories.com ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:49:04 PM PST US Subject: Re: Rocket-List: speed issues From: Ernest Hale Down trim is what was meant. Can you give us some idea as to what you are talking about when you say there are other issues besides speed? I didn't build my rocket but had it reviewed by an A&P before I bought it and he signed off on it. Is there anything that needs to be evaluated due to the down trim? On 1/10/10 6:46 PM, "Frazier, Vincent A" wrote: > > Full down elevator at cruise? I hope you mean down trim... but then what > happens with a pax? More info needed! If what you say is true, then there > are other issues than speed to be worried about first. > > Regarding a well known accident, the tail came off of a Rocket due to a MAJOR > builder error that absolutely would have been caught had the builder had > nearly any reasonably competent RV or Rocket builder do a pre-inspection > inspection, i.e. an inspection before the feds arrived and definitely before > anyone flew it. It really SUCKS that this happened so needlessly. > > For goodness sakes guys, no matter how much of a stud you think you are, have > at least one, and preferably two sets of competent, independent eyes look over > your work before you fly a new bird. For example, we've got a local guy who > has flown since WWII and has been an engineer all his life. He's as sharp as > anyone I know, but he's had several (at least five) off airport > excursions/incidents/accidents in his homebuilt because he won't take > advantage of the EAA tech counselors or flight advisors. (The saying "You can > always tell a german, but you can't tell him much" applies here!) The > gentleman in question is without a doubt the luckiest man I know, but he > really makes it tough on the rest of us out here. He is also the most > stubborn, hard headed person I know. > > He also totaled his C-170 and then fixed it literally with duct tape, bailing > wire, and a sledge hammer. They're out there and walk among us. Amazing. > > Back to the issues at hand. built right, there aren't any issues with the > tails coming off the Rockets. > > Vince > www.flyboyaccessories.com > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rocket-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Rocket-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rocket-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rocket-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.