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1. 03:32 AM - East Coast Rocket Flyin (robmokry@covad.net)
2. 11:56 AM - Re: Prop me Up! (Rob Ray)
3. 11:57 AM - Re: Prop me Up! (Rob Ray)
4. 04:44 PM - Re: East Coast Rocket Flyin (Daniel Weseman)
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Re Right Coast Fly In
Fly out to ACK with me this weekend!
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Thanks Jim!
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On Jul 7, 2010, at 7:34 PM, Jim Stone <jrstone@insightbb.com> wrote:
> Rob, just to chime in, I love my MT 3 blade 205 kts TAS at max map, 2300 r
pm and 11 gal/hr up to 9k then less above. I get about 500 miles with a 10 g
al reserve, no wind. I normally cruise at 9 or above with max map and 2200 r
pm yielding 198-200 kts TAS. I got my MT from Jim A. he is a great source o
f accurate info.
> Jim Stone
> Louisville Ky
> PS When we gonna have that east coast Rocket fly-in?
>
>
> On Jul 7, 2010, at 6:28 PM, Rob Ray wrote:
>
> Hi Gummy, greatly appreciate it! My "classic" HR2 performs exactly like y
ours did with the 2 blade D twist. I operate off a short grass strip and mos
t every flight involves aerobatics, so a light nose would be very nice.
>
> Jim Ayers is working some numbers up for a three blade MT, looking forwar
d to seeing it.
>
> Thanks again!
> Smokey
>
> --- On Tue, 7/6/10, Tom Gummo <t.gummo@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> From: Tom Gummo <t.gummo@verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Prop me Up!
> To: rocket-list@matronics.com
> Date: Tuesday, July 6, 2010, 1:18 PM
>
> Smokey,
>
> I very much like the look of my MT prop. As I don't fly in the weather an
d live in the desert, I have not seen the effects of rain on the paint. I t
hink I remember hearing about the paint taking a beating when flying in heav
y rain.
>
> I have two issues with the four blade MT prop I have. First, I lost about
10 knots TAS at cruise altitude with the four blade. When I had the Hartze
ll two blade, at 10.5 or 11.5 my normal cruise altitude, full throttle, prop
back to 2100 or so, leaned out to 10.5 gallons per hour, I trued at 180 kno
ts. Now, I true at 170 knots under that same conditions. Again, it sure lo
oks good. Jim Ayers tells me that I don't have enough power to use the prop
properly (my IO-540 J4A5, is only 250 hp). I did get a great deal from Joh
n when I got it. (See, I told you all that I have the slowest rocket.)
>
> Jim Ayers allowed me to use a three blade MT prop for a couple weeks and i
t very hard to tell it there was any speed lost at all. I keep trying to ge
t him find someone that wants the four blade and will trade me for the three
blade.
>
> Second, I use the full throttle hot start technique. As all the weight is
in the hub, it spins up quickly. (It was only two pounds lighter than the H
artzell.) So when the engine starts, it CAN very quickly gets to 1200 to 15
00 prm while I am reducing the throttle, adding mixture, etc. etc (normally,
I don't see that high of rpm on start but it has happened).
> I have had the tail come off the ground and don't want ANOTHER Prop strike
(reason for getting another prop in the first place). Which, it why I clea
r in front of me and if the plane wants to roll a couple feet while I am sta
rting, I let it. So, while I call this an issue, it is not problem at all.
Like most things, just learn to deal with it.
>
> So fly out to SoCal and I will let you see the prop from the rear seat. :
-)
>
> GummiBear
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rob Ray
> To: Rocket List
> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 6:48 AM
> Subject: Rocket-List: Prop me Up!
>
> Guys,
>
> I have decided to "lighten up" the front end of my HR2 and go to a compo
site propeller. I have seen several MT props for sale in BS and wonder how y
ou MT flyers like your prop? I also like the Whirlwind but $$$ is a factor.
Jim A and Gummy are running 4 blades, how do you guys like them?
> Since most of my flying includes over the top aerobatics, a lighter nos
e would be nice although my Hartzell 2 blade "paddle" has served me well.
>
> Any comments prop or con would be appreciated.
>
> Smokey
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How about 1 Oct( my birthday:)
Smokey
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 7, 2010, at 9:12 PM, Daniel Weseman <danweseman@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi Guys Im still up for a fall east coast rocket flyin. I talked to my rv f
reinds and they are up for one here at 7FL (haller airpark) i was wanting to
get past Oshkosh then start making plans,any suggestions for a date etc wo
uld be great.
>
> Dan Weseman
> danweseman@yahoo.com
> www.flycleanex.com
> www.fly5thbearing.com
>
>
> From: Jim Stone <jrstone@insightbb.com>
> To: rocket-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Wed, July 7, 2010 7:34:50 PM
> Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Prop me Up!
>
> Rob, just to chime in, I love my MT 3 blade 205 kts TAS at max map, 2300 r
pm and 11 gal/hr up to 9k then less above. I get about 500 miles with a 10 g
al reserve, no wind. I normally cruise at 9 or above with max map and 2200 r
pm yielding 198-200 kts TAS. I got my MT from Jim A. he is a great source o
f accurate info.
> Jim Stone
> Louisville Ky
> PS When we gonna have that east coast Rocket fly-in?
>
>
> On Jul 7, 2010, at 6:28 PM, Rob Ray wrote:
>
> Hi Gummy, greatly appreciate it! My "classic" HR2 performs exactly like y
ours did with the 2 blade D twist. I operate off a short grass strip and mos
t every flight involves aerobatics, so a light nose would be very nice.
>
> Jim Ayers is working some numbers up for a three blade MT, looking forwar
d to seeing it.
>
> Thanks again!
> Smokey
>
> --- On Tue, 7/6/10, Tom Gummo <t.gummo@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> From: Tom Gummo <t.gummo@verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Prop me Up!
> To: rocket-list@matronics.com
> Date: Tuesday, July 6, 2010, 1:18 PM
>
> Smokey,
>
> I very much like the look of my MT prop. As I don't fly in the weather an
d live in the desert, I have not seen the effects of rain on the paint. I t
hink I remember hearing about the paint taking a beating when flying in heav
y rain.
>
> I have two issues with the four blade MT prop I have. First, I lost about
10 knots TAS at cruise altitude with the four blade. When I had the Hartze
ll two blade, at 10.5 or 11.5 my normal cruise altitude, full throttle, prop
back to 2100 or so, leaned out to 10.5 gallons per hour, I trued at 180 kno
ts. Now, I true at 170 knots under that same conditions. Again, it sure lo
oks good. Jim Ayers tells me that I don't have enough power to use the prop
properly (my IO-540 J4A5, is only 250 hp). I did get a great deal from Joh
n when I got it. (See, I told you all that I have the slowest rocket.)
>
> Jim Ayers allowed me to use a three blade MT prop for a couple weeks and i
t very hard to tell it there was any speed lost at all. I keep trying to ge
t him find someone that wants the four blade and will trade me for the three
blade.
>
> Second, I use the full throttle hot start technique. As all the weight is
in the hub, it spins up quickly. (It was only two pounds lighter than the H
artzell.) So when the engine starts, it CAN very quickly gets to 1200 to 15
00 prm while I am reducing the throttle, adding mixture, etc. etc (normally,
I don't see that high of rpm on start but it has happened).
> I have had the tail come off the ground and don't want ANOTHER Prop strike
(reason for getting another prop in the first place). Which, it why I clea
r in front of me and if the plane wants to roll a couple feet while I am sta
rting, I let it. So, while I call this an issue, it is not problem at all.
Like most things, just learn to deal with it.
>
> So fly out to SoCal and I will let you see the prop from the rear seat. :
-)
>
> GummiBear
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rob Ray
> To: Rocket List
> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 6:48 AM
> Subject: Rocket-List: Prop me Up!
>
> Guys,
>
> I have decided to "lighten up" the front end of my HR2 and go to a compo
site propeller. I have seen several MT props for sale in BS and wonder how y
ou MT flyers like your prop? I also like the Whirlwind but $$$ is a factor.
Jim A and Gummy are running 4 blades, how do you guys like them?
> Since most of my flying includes over the top aerobatics, a lighter nos
e would be nice although my Hartzell 2 blade "paddle" has served me well.
>
> Any comments prop or con would be appreciated.
>
> Smokey
>
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| Subject: | Re: East Coast Rocket Flyin |
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