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     2. 03:27 PM - Re: HRII Fuel Pump Vent Clearance (Stuart Hutchison)
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| Subject:  | HRII Fuel Pump Vent Clearance | 
      
      
      I am finally returning my ship to flying status, having been aground for upgrades
      and fixes following a prop strike nearly a year ago.  Mounting the IO-540 with
      new elastic mounts has changed the clearance at the back of the engine a bit.
      The engine-mounted fuel pump drain is uncomfortably close to the firewall.
      The firewall has been dimpled inward a bit to increase clearance during the
      previous engine installation, but additional dimpling does not appear to be available
      due to the proximity of a vertical structural member on the cockpit side
      of the firewall.
      
      1.  Does anyone know of a method to increase clearance between the firewall and
      the fuel pump drain? 
      2.  I have seen a few drain elbows of other aircraft that look to be smaller (or
      at least project aft less than the AN832-type fitting).  Are these available
      or are they custom made from an AN832-4?
      3.  Vans notes that the threads on the Lycoming fuel pump are "special" and that
      NPT threads will not work--does that note apply to the vent drain?
      4.  I assume that the vent drain only comes into play if there is a rupture in
      the fuel pump diaphram.  In that case, one is looking for fuel or oil coming from
      the vent drain as a major clue that the fuel pump is about to fail.  Is that
      an accurate statement?
      
      Any assistance or comment would be greatly appreciated.
      
      Thanks,
      Randy Sage
      Peachtree City, GA
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=390071#390071
      
      
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| Subject:  | HRII Fuel Pump Vent Clearance | 
      
      
      G'day Randy,
      
      The vent thread is tapered and I'm pretty sure it's NPT.  The other fittings
      are straight thread, sealed by O-ring.
      
      I used a lathe, but the link  shows one option.  I ground the JB Weld flat
      of course.
      
      http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=RockFLY&project=797&categ
      ory=5584&log=131278&row=53
      
      As you say, this should only vent fuel if the diaphragm is failing ... the
      intent is to stop fuel entering the crankcase through the hole where the
      actuator arm penetrates (top side of the diaphragm).
      
      Kind regards, Stu
      
      F1 Rocket    VH-FLY       http://www.mykitlog.com/RockFLY
      www.teamrocketaircraft.com
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of viperpilot
      Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2012 9:21 AM
      Subject: Rocket-List: HRII Fuel Pump Vent Clearance
      
      
      I am finally returning my ship to flying status, having been aground for
      upgrades and fixes following a prop strike nearly a year ago.  Mounting the
      IO-540 with new elastic mounts has changed the clearance at the back of the
      engine a bit.  The engine-mounted fuel pump drain is uncomfortably close to
      the firewall.  The firewall has been dimpled inward a bit to increase
      clearance during the previous engine installation, but additional dimpling
      does not appear to be available due to the proximity of a vertical
      structural member on the cockpit side of the firewall.
      
      1.  Does anyone know of a method to increase clearance between the firewall
      and the fuel pump drain? 
      2.  I have seen a few drain elbows of other aircraft that look to be smaller
      (or at least project aft less than the AN832-type fitting).  Are these
      available or are they custom made from an AN832-4?
      3.  Vans notes that the threads on the Lycoming fuel pump are "special" and
      that NPT threads will not work--does that note apply to the vent drain?
      4.  I assume that the vent drain only comes into play if there is a rupture
      in the fuel pump diaphram.  In that case, one is looking for fuel or oil
      coming from the vent drain as a major clue that the fuel pump is about to
      fail.  Is that an accurate statement?
      
      Any assistance or comment would be greatly appreciated.
      
      Thanks,
      Randy Sage
      Peachtree City, GA
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=390071#390071
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: HRII Fuel Pump Vent Clearance | 
      
      
      Do away with the fitting
      
      Sent from my iPhone
      
      On Dec 8, 2012, at 2:20 PM, "viperpilot" <nsage86@comcast.net> wrote:
      
      > 
      > I am finally returning my ship to flying status, having been aground for upgrades
      and fixes following a prop strike nearly a year ago.  Mounting the IO-540
      with new elastic mounts has changed the clearance at the back of the engine a
      bit.  The engine-mounted fuel pump drain is uncomfortably close to the firewall.
      The firewall has been dimpled inward a bit to increase clearance during the
      previous engine installation, but additional dimpling does not appear to be
      available due to the proximity of a vertical structural member on the cockpit
      side of the firewall.
      > 
      > 1.  Does anyone know of a method to increase clearance between the firewall and
      the fuel pump drain? 
      > 2.  I have seen a few drain elbows of other aircraft that look to be smaller
      (or at least project aft less than the AN832-type fitting).  Are these available
      or are they custom made from an AN832-4?
      > 3.  Vans notes that the threads on the Lycoming fuel pump are "special" and that
      NPT threads will not work--does that note apply to the vent drain?
      > 4.  I assume that the vent drain only comes into play if there is a rupture in
      the fuel pump diaphram.  In that case, one is looking for fuel or oil coming
      from the vent drain as a major clue that the fuel pump is about to fail.  Is
      that an accurate statement?
      > 
      > Any assistance or comment would be greatly appreciated.
      > 
      > Thanks,
      > Randy Sage
      > Peachtree City, GA
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Read this topic online here:
      > 
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=390071#390071
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| Subject:  | Re: HRII Fuel Pump Vent Clearance | 
      
      
      Thanks guys!  Stuart's solution is certainly the most elegant, but simply removing
      the fitting would seem to work also, as there should be no fuel coming out
      of the port if all is well inside the fuel pump.  Seems like the only reason
      to have the drain line is to make it easier to ID the problem and I am sure the
      FAA required it for certification.
      
      Thanks,
      Randy
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=390080#390080
      
      
 
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