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Subject: | Re: Rocket-List Digest: 9 Msgs - 12/21/13 |
Appreciate the spin words Smokey.
Have been trying to spin 85TP for couple years now without luck -- very forward
solo cg, won't do it dual first time -- haven't been able to get the entry started,
though have hundreds of spins from USAF years.
Will try again using your technique, see if I can get it to go.
Cheers,
Tim Carey
N85TP
KHEF
Manassas, VA
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1. 04:50 AM - Plans? (Dylan Caldwell)
2. 06:36 AM - Re: Plans? (Oliver Coolidge)
3. 07:21 AM - Re: Plans? (Rob Ray)
4. 08:08 AM - Re: Plans? (Oliver Coolidge)
5. 08:14 AM - Re: Plans? (Nancy and Randy)
6. 09:33 AM - Re: Plans? (Rob Ray)
7. 09:34 AM - Re: Plans? (Rob Ray)
8. 01:22 PM - Re: Plans? (Oliver Coolidge)
9. 04:09 PM - Re: Plans? (Rob Ray)
________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
Time: 04:50:12 AM PST US
From: Dylan Caldwell <macquistan@mac.com>
Subject: Rocket-List: Plans?
Hello, All,
Does anyone have a set of plans for the Harmon Rocket that they would be willing
to sell?
Thanks much,
Dylan
________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
Time: 06:36:47 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Plans?
From: Oliver Coolidge <olivercoolidge@gmail.com>
Where are you located? Have you asked John Harmon?
Oliver
Typing with my thumbs
On Dec 21, 2013, at 4:48 AM, Dylan Caldwell <macquistan@mac.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hello, All,
> Does anyone have a set of plans for the Harmon Rocket that they would be willing
to sell?
> Thanks much,
> Dylan
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________
Time: 07:21:08 AM PST US
From: Rob Ray <smokyray@rocketmail.com>
Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Plans?
Wow, a Rocket list message! Even better, someone wanting to build one? Yeah!
Merry Christmas Y"all!
Smokey
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 21, 2013, at 7:48, Dylan Caldwell <macquistan@mac.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hello, All,
> Does anyone have a set of plans for the Harmon Rocket that they would be willing
to sell?
> Thanks much,
> Dylan
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________
Time: 08:08:38 AM PST US
From: Oliver Coolidge <olivercoolidge@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Plans?
Smokey,
Have you built one???
Oliver
Typing with my thumbs
On Dec 21, 2013, at 7:20 AM, Rob Ray <smokyray@rocketmail.com> wrote:
>
> Wow, a Rocket list message! Even better, someone wanting to build one? Yeah!
>
> Merry Christmas Y"all!
> Smokey
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Dec 21, 2013, at 7:48, Dylan Caldwell <macquistan@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello, All,
>> Does anyone have a set of plans for the Harmon Rocket that they would be willing
to sell?
>> Thanks much,
>> Dylan
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________
Time: 08:14:26 AM PST US
From: "Nancy and Randy" <nrsage86@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Plans?
Smokey, Merry Christmas! Still getting my Rocket up to speed; plan to
actually fly it shortly after the new year. I have been meaning to ask you
about aerobatics in the Rocket---especially spins. Do you have any words to
the wise?
Thanks,
Tailwinds and blue skies,
Randy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob Ray" <smokyray@rocketmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 10:20 AM
Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Plans?
>
> Wow, a Rocket list message! Even better, someone wanting to build one?
> Yeah!
>
> Merry Christmas Y"all!
> Smokey
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Dec 21, 2013, at 7:48, Dylan Caldwell <macquistan@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello, All,
>> Does anyone have a set of plans for the Harmon Rocket that they would be
>> willing to sell?
>> Thanks much,
>> Dylan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________
Time: 09:33:14 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Plans?
From: Rob Ray <smokyray@rocketmail.com>
Hi Randy!
Yes sir, I've spun my HR2 many times.
Depending on configuration and fuel load, most Harmon Rockets I have flown are
nose heavy, compared to a light nose RV4 or my RVX. Therefore spin entry and characteristics
are very straightforward. My normal entry consisted of a level
flight slow reduction in power while simultaneously increasing pitch back pressure
where idle power was reached just above clean wing stall speed. (My Rocket
has a very heavy nose approaching stall requiring full aft stick with the stock
RV4 Emp to maintain a level pitch.) Full stall is characterized by a light
tail /wing buffet and nose pitching down slightly. You can actually apply full
power at this point and hold full aft stick and it will buck and pitch but hold
altitude in the stall! The cylinders and oil temp will eventually heat up
but an amazing capability, very similar to the F16.
Spin entry requires idle power, full aft stick and full rudder deflection at stall
which causes a fairly nose low entry followed by rotation, approx 1.5 turns/sec.
Aileron into the direction of spin greatly increases the spin rotation
speed. Recovery is also very straightforward. Neutralize aft stick to slightly
pitch down while simultaneously applying opposite rudder will stop rotation
in approximate 1-2 turns. Other Rocket aerobatics are equally energetic and straightforward.
Fun!
Email me offline anytime:
Smokyray@rocketmail.com
Merry Christmas!
Smokey
PS: If I still owned it I would have lightened the nose and airframe significantly
with a Catto FP 3 blade, minimal avionics and accessories out front, light
sump, starter and accessory case alternator, like my RVX!
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 21, 2013, at 11:14, "Nancy and Randy" <nrsage86@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
> Smokey, Merry Christmas! Still getting my Rocket up to speed; plan to actually
fly it shortly after the new year. I have been meaning to ask you about aerobatics
in the Rocket---especially spins. Do you have any words to the wise?
>
> Thanks,
> Tailwinds and blue skies,
> Randy
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Ray" <smokyray@rocketmail.com>
> To: <rocket-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 10:20 AM
> Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Plans?
>
>
>>
>> Wow, a Rocket list message! Even better, someone wanting to build one? Yeah!
>>
>> Merry Christmas Y"all!
>> Smokey
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Dec 21, 2013, at 7:48, Dylan Caldwell <macquistan@mac.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello, All,
>>> Does anyone have a set of plans for the Harmon Rocket that they would be willing
to sell?
>>> Thanks much,
>>> Dylan
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________
Time: 09:34:23 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Plans?
From: Rob Ray <smokyray@rocketmail.com>
No sir, I built an RV4 and my current RVX.
I rebuilt my HR2 :)
Smokey
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 21, 2013, at 11:08, Oliver Coolidge <olivercoolidge@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Smokey,
> Have you built one???
>
> Oliver
> Typing with my thumbs
>
>> On Dec 21, 2013, at 7:20 AM, Rob Ray <smokyray@rocketmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Wow, a Rocket list message! Even better, someone wanting to build one? Yeah!
>>
>> Merry Christmas Y"all!
>> Smokey
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Dec 21, 2013, at 7:48, Dylan Caldwell <macquistan@mac.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello, All,
>>> Does anyone have a set of plans for the Harmon Rocket that they would be willing
to sell?
>>> Thanks much,
>>> Dylan
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________
Time: 01:22:22 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Plans?
From: Oliver Coolidge <olivercoolidge@gmail.com>
Is an RVX an RV-10?
I'm negotiating on a Harmon kit, haven't heard of an RVX.
Oliver
Typing with my thumbs
On Dec 21, 2013, at 11:32 AM, Rob Ray <smokyray@rocketmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Randy!
>
> Yes sir, I've spun my HR2 many times.
>
> Depending on configuration and fuel load, most Harmon Rockets I have flown are
nose heavy, compared to a light nose RV4 or my RVX. Therefore spin entry and
characteristics are very straightforward. My normal entry consisted of a level
flight slow reduction in power while simultaneously increasing pitch back pressure
where idle power was reached just above clean wing stall speed. (My Rocket
has a very heavy nose approaching stall requiring full aft stick with the
stock RV4 Emp to maintain a level pitch.) Full stall is characterized by a light
tail /wing buffet and nose pitching down slightly. You can actually apply full
power at this point and hold full aft stick and it will buck and pitch but
hold altitude in the stall! The cylinders and oil temp will eventually heat up
but an amazing capability, very similar to the F16.
> Spin entry requires idle power, full aft stick and full rudder deflection at
stall which causes a fairly nose low entry followed by rotation, approx 1.5 turns/sec.
Aileron into the direction of spin greatly increases the spin rotation
speed. Recovery is also very straightforward. Neutralize aft stick to slightly
pitch down while simultaneously applying opposite rudder will stop rotation
in approximate 1-2 turns. Other Rocket aerobatics are equally energetic and
straightforward.
>
> Fun!
>
> Email me offline anytime:
> Smokyray@rocketmail.com
>
> Merry Christmas!
> Smokey
>
> PS: If I still owned it I would have lightened the nose and airframe significantly
with a Catto FP 3 blade, minimal avionics and accessories out front, light
sump, starter and accessory case alternator, like my RVX!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Dec 21, 2013, at 11:14, "Nancy and Randy" <nrsage86@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Smokey, Merry Christmas! Still getting my Rocket up to speed; plan to actually
fly it shortly after the new year. I have been meaning to ask you about aerobatics
in the Rocket---especially spins. Do you have any words to the wise?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tailwinds and blue skies,
>> Randy
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Ray" <smokyray@rocketmail.com>
>> To: <rocket-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 10:20 AM
>> Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Plans?
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Wow, a Rocket list message! Even better, someone wanting to build one? Yeah!
>>>
>>> Merry Christmas Y"all!
>>> Smokey
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Dec 21, 2013, at 7:48, Dylan Caldwell <macquistan@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello, All,
>>>> Does anyone have a set of plans for the Harmon Rocket that they would be willing
to sell?
>>>> Thanks much,
>>>> Dylan
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________
Time: 04:09:03 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Plans?
From: Rob Ray <smokyray@rocketmail.com>
Hey Oliver,
I built a one of a kind airplane from 2 projects. RV4 wings/tail, Rv6 fuselage.
Rocket plans used to mate wings.
Flies great...
Smokey
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 21, 2013, at 16:21, Oliver Coolidge <olivercoolidge@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Is an RVX an RV-10?
> I'm negotiating on a Harmon kit, haven't heard of an RVX.
>
> Oliver
> Typing with my thumbs
>
>> On Dec 21, 2013, at 11:32 AM, Rob Ray <smokyray@rocketmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi Randy!
>>
>> Yes sir, I've spun my HR2 many times.
>>
>> Depending on configuration and fuel load, most Harmon Rockets I have flown are
nose heavy, compared to a light nose RV4 or my RVX. Therefore spin entry and
characteristics are very straightforward. My normal entry consisted of a level
flight slow reduction in power while simultaneously increasing pitch back pressure
where idle power was reached just above clean wing stall speed. (My Rocket
has a very heavy nose approaching stall requiring full aft stick with the
stock RV4 Emp to maintain a level pitch.) Full stall is characterized by a light
tail /wing buffet and nose pitching down slightly. You can actually apply
full power at this point and hold full aft stick and it will buck and pitch but
hold altitude in the stall! The cylinders and oil temp will eventually heat
up but an amazing capability, very similar to the F16.
>> Spin entry requires idle power, full aft stick and full rudder deflection at
stall which causes a fairly nose low entry followed by rotation, approx 1.5
turns/sec. Aileron into the direction of spin greatly increases the spin rotation
speed. Recovery is also very straightforward. Neutralize aft stick to slightly
pitch down while simultaneously applying opposite rudder will stop rotation
in approximate 1-2 turns. Other Rocket aerobatics are equally energetic and
straightforward.
>>
>> Fun!
>>
>> Email me offline anytime:
>> Smokyray@rocketmail.com
>>
>> Merry Christmas!
>> Smokey
>>
>> PS: If I still owned it I would have lightened the nose and airframe significantly
with a Catto FP 3 blade, minimal avionics and accessories out front, light
sump, starter and accessory case alternator, like my RVX!
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Dec 21, 2013, at 11:14, "Nancy and Randy" <nrsage86@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Smokey, Merry Christmas! Still getting my Rocket up to speed; plan to actually
fly it shortly after the new year. I have been meaning to ask you about
aerobatics in the Rocket---especially spins. Do you have any words to the wise?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Tailwinds and blue skies,
>>> Randy
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Ray" <smokyray@rocketmail.com>
>>> To: <rocket-list@matronics.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 10:20 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Plans?
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Wow, a Rocket list message! Even better, someone wanting to build one? Yeah!
>>>>
>>>> Merry Christmas Y"all!
>>>> Smokey
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 21, 2013, at 7:48, Dylan Caldwell <macquistan@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello, All,
>>>>> Does anyone have a set of plans for the Harmon Rocket that they would be
willing to sell?
>>>>> Thanks much,
>>>>> Dylan
>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Rocket-List Digest: 9 Msgs - 12/21/13 |
Appreciate the spin words Smokey.
Have been trying to spin 85TP for couple years now without luck -- very forward
solo cg, won't do it dual first time -- haven't been able to get the entry started,
though have hundreds of spins from USAF years.
Will try again using your technique, see if I can get it to go.
Cheers,
Tim Carey
N85TP
KHEF
Manassas, VA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rocket-List Digest Server" <rocket-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2013 3:02:44 AM
Subject: Rocket-List Digest: 9 Msgs - 12/21/13
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---
Total Messages Posted Sat 12/21/13: 9
----------------------------------------------------------
Today's Message Index:
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1. 04:50 AM - Plans? (Dylan Caldwell)
2. 06:36 AM - Re: Plans? (Oliver Coolidge)
3. 07:21 AM - Re: Plans? (Rob Ray)
4. 08:08 AM - Re: Plans? (Oliver Coolidge)
5. 08:14 AM - Re: Plans? (Nancy and Randy)
6. 09:33 AM - Re: Plans? (Rob Ray)
7. 09:34 AM - Re: Plans? (Rob Ray)
8. 01:22 PM - Re: Plans? (Oliver Coolidge)
9. 04:09 PM - Re: Plans? (Rob Ray)
________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
Time: 04:50:12 AM PST US
From: Dylan Caldwell <macquistan@mac.com>
Subject: Rocket-List: Plans?
Hello, All,
Does anyone have a set of plans for the Harmon Rocket that they would be willing
to sell?
Thanks much,
Dylan
________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
Time: 06:36:47 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Plans?
From: Oliver Coolidge <olivercoolidge@gmail.com>
Where are you located? Have you asked John Harmon?
Oliver
Typing with my thumbs
On Dec 21, 2013, at 4:48 AM, Dylan Caldwell <macquistan@mac.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hello, All,
> Does anyone have a set of plans for the Harmon Rocket that they would be willing
to sell?
> Thanks much,
> Dylan
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________
Time: 07:21:08 AM PST US
From: Rob Ray <smokyray@rocketmail.com>
Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Plans?
Wow, a Rocket list message! Even better, someone wanting to build one? Yeah!
Merry Christmas Y"all!
Smokey
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 21, 2013, at 7:48, Dylan Caldwell <macquistan@mac.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hello, All,
> Does anyone have a set of plans for the Harmon Rocket that they would be willing
to sell?
> Thanks much,
> Dylan
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________
Time: 08:08:38 AM PST US
From: Oliver Coolidge <olivercoolidge@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Plans?
Smokey,
Have you built one???
Oliver
Typing with my thumbs
On Dec 21, 2013, at 7:20 AM, Rob Ray <smokyray@rocketmail.com> wrote:
>
> Wow, a Rocket list message! Even better, someone wanting to build one? Yeah!
>
> Merry Christmas Y"all!
> Smokey
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Dec 21, 2013, at 7:48, Dylan Caldwell <macquistan@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello, All,
>> Does anyone have a set of plans for the Harmon Rocket that they would be willing
to sell?
>> Thanks much,
>> Dylan
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________
Time: 08:14:26 AM PST US
From: "Nancy and Randy" <nrsage86@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Plans?
Smokey, Merry Christmas! Still getting my Rocket up to speed; plan to
actually fly it shortly after the new year. I have been meaning to ask you
about aerobatics in the Rocket---especially spins. Do you have any words to
the wise?
Thanks,
Tailwinds and blue skies,
Randy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob Ray" <smokyray@rocketmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 10:20 AM
Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Plans?
>
> Wow, a Rocket list message! Even better, someone wanting to build one?
> Yeah!
>
> Merry Christmas Y"all!
> Smokey
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Dec 21, 2013, at 7:48, Dylan Caldwell <macquistan@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello, All,
>> Does anyone have a set of plans for the Harmon Rocket that they would be
>> willing to sell?
>> Thanks much,
>> Dylan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________
Time: 09:33:14 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Plans?
From: Rob Ray <smokyray@rocketmail.com>
Hi Randy!
Yes sir, I've spun my HR2 many times.
Depending on configuration and fuel load, most Harmon Rockets I have flown are
nose heavy, compared to a light nose RV4 or my RVX. Therefore spin entry and characteristics
are very straightforward. My normal entry consisted of a level
flight slow reduction in power while simultaneously increasing pitch back pressure
where idle power was reached just above clean wing stall speed. (My Rocket
has a very heavy nose approaching stall requiring full aft stick with the stock
RV4 Emp to maintain a level pitch.) Full stall is characterized by a light
tail /wing buffet and nose pitching down slightly. You can actually apply full
power at this point and hold full aft stick and it will buck and pitch but hold
altitude in the stall! The cylinders and oil temp will eventually heat up
but an amazing capability, very similar to the F16.
Spin entry requires idle power, full aft stick and full rudder deflection at stall
which causes a fairly nose low entry followed by rotation, approx 1.5 turns/sec.
Aileron into the direction of spin greatly increases the spin rotation
speed. Recovery is also very straightforward. Neutralize aft stick to slightly
pitch down while simultaneously applying opposite rudder will stop rotation
in approximate 1-2 turns. Other Rocket aerobatics are equally energetic and straightforward.
Fun!
Email me offline anytime:
Smokyray@rocketmail.com
Merry Christmas!
Smokey
PS: If I still owned it I would have lightened the nose and airframe significantly
with a Catto FP 3 blade, minimal avionics and accessories out front, light
sump, starter and accessory case alternator, like my RVX!
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 21, 2013, at 11:14, "Nancy and Randy" <nrsage86@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
> Smokey, Merry Christmas! Still getting my Rocket up to speed; plan to actually
fly it shortly after the new year. I have been meaning to ask you about aerobatics
in the Rocket---especially spins. Do you have any words to the wise?
>
> Thanks,
> Tailwinds and blue skies,
> Randy
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Ray" <smokyray@rocketmail.com>
> To: <rocket-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 10:20 AM
> Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Plans?
>
>
>>
>> Wow, a Rocket list message! Even better, someone wanting to build one? Yeah!
>>
>> Merry Christmas Y"all!
>> Smokey
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Dec 21, 2013, at 7:48, Dylan Caldwell <macquistan@mac.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello, All,
>>> Does anyone have a set of plans for the Harmon Rocket that they would be willing
to sell?
>>> Thanks much,
>>> Dylan
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________
Time: 09:34:23 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Plans?
From: Rob Ray <smokyray@rocketmail.com>
No sir, I built an RV4 and my current RVX.
I rebuilt my HR2 :)
Smokey
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 21, 2013, at 11:08, Oliver Coolidge <olivercoolidge@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Smokey,
> Have you built one???
>
> Oliver
> Typing with my thumbs
>
>> On Dec 21, 2013, at 7:20 AM, Rob Ray <smokyray@rocketmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Wow, a Rocket list message! Even better, someone wanting to build one? Yeah!
>>
>> Merry Christmas Y"all!
>> Smokey
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Dec 21, 2013, at 7:48, Dylan Caldwell <macquistan@mac.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello, All,
>>> Does anyone have a set of plans for the Harmon Rocket that they would be willing
to sell?
>>> Thanks much,
>>> Dylan
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________
Time: 01:22:22 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Plans?
From: Oliver Coolidge <olivercoolidge@gmail.com>
Is an RVX an RV-10?
I'm negotiating on a Harmon kit, haven't heard of an RVX.
Oliver
Typing with my thumbs
On Dec 21, 2013, at 11:32 AM, Rob Ray <smokyray@rocketmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Randy!
>
> Yes sir, I've spun my HR2 many times.
>
> Depending on configuration and fuel load, most Harmon Rockets I have flown are
nose heavy, compared to a light nose RV4 or my RVX. Therefore spin entry and
characteristics are very straightforward. My normal entry consisted of a level
flight slow reduction in power while simultaneously increasing pitch back pressure
where idle power was reached just above clean wing stall speed. (My Rocket
has a very heavy nose approaching stall requiring full aft stick with the
stock RV4 Emp to maintain a level pitch.) Full stall is characterized by a light
tail /wing buffet and nose pitching down slightly. You can actually apply full
power at this point and hold full aft stick and it will buck and pitch but
hold altitude in the stall! The cylinders and oil temp will eventually heat up
but an amazing capability, very similar to the F16.
> Spin entry requires idle power, full aft stick and full rudder deflection at
stall which causes a fairly nose low entry followed by rotation, approx 1.5 turns/sec.
Aileron into the direction of spin greatly increases the spin rotation
speed. Recovery is also very straightforward. Neutralize aft stick to slightly
pitch down while simultaneously applying opposite rudder will stop rotation
in approximate 1-2 turns. Other Rocket aerobatics are equally energetic and
straightforward.
>
> Fun!
>
> Email me offline anytime:
> Smokyray@rocketmail.com
>
> Merry Christmas!
> Smokey
>
> PS: If I still owned it I would have lightened the nose and airframe significantly
with a Catto FP 3 blade, minimal avionics and accessories out front, light
sump, starter and accessory case alternator, like my RVX!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Dec 21, 2013, at 11:14, "Nancy and Randy" <nrsage86@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Smokey, Merry Christmas! Still getting my Rocket up to speed; plan to actually
fly it shortly after the new year. I have been meaning to ask you about aerobatics
in the Rocket---especially spins. Do you have any words to the wise?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tailwinds and blue skies,
>> Randy
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Ray" <smokyray@rocketmail.com>
>> To: <rocket-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 10:20 AM
>> Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Plans?
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Wow, a Rocket list message! Even better, someone wanting to build one? Yeah!
>>>
>>> Merry Christmas Y"all!
>>> Smokey
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Dec 21, 2013, at 7:48, Dylan Caldwell <macquistan@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello, All,
>>>> Does anyone have a set of plans for the Harmon Rocket that they would be willing
to sell?
>>>> Thanks much,
>>>> Dylan
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________
Time: 04:09:03 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Plans?
From: Rob Ray <smokyray@rocketmail.com>
Hey Oliver,
I built a one of a kind airplane from 2 projects. RV4 wings/tail, Rv6 fuselage.
Rocket plans used to mate wings.
Flies great...
Smokey
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 21, 2013, at 16:21, Oliver Coolidge <olivercoolidge@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Is an RVX an RV-10?
> I'm negotiating on a Harmon kit, haven't heard of an RVX.
>
> Oliver
> Typing with my thumbs
>
>> On Dec 21, 2013, at 11:32 AM, Rob Ray <smokyray@rocketmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi Randy!
>>
>> Yes sir, I've spun my HR2 many times.
>>
>> Depending on configuration and fuel load, most Harmon Rockets I have flown are
nose heavy, compared to a light nose RV4 or my RVX. Therefore spin entry and
characteristics are very straightforward. My normal entry consisted of a level
flight slow reduction in power while simultaneously increasing pitch back pressure
where idle power was reached just above clean wing stall speed. (My Rocket
has a very heavy nose approaching stall requiring full aft stick with the
stock RV4 Emp to maintain a level pitch.) Full stall is characterized by a light
tail /wing buffet and nose pitching down slightly. You can actually apply
full power at this point and hold full aft stick and it will buck and pitch but
hold altitude in the stall! The cylinders and oil temp will eventually heat
up but an amazing capability, very similar to the F16.
>> Spin entry requires idle power, full aft stick and full rudder deflection at
stall which causes a fairly nose low entry followed by rotation, approx 1.5
turns/sec. Aileron into the direction of spin greatly increases the spin rotation
speed. Recovery is also very straightforward. Neutralize aft stick to slightly
pitch down while simultaneously applying opposite rudder will stop rotation
in approximate 1-2 turns. Other Rocket aerobatics are equally energetic and
straightforward.
>>
>> Fun!
>>
>> Email me offline anytime:
>> Smokyray@rocketmail.com
>>
>> Merry Christmas!
>> Smokey
>>
>> PS: If I still owned it I would have lightened the nose and airframe significantly
with a Catto FP 3 blade, minimal avionics and accessories out front, light
sump, starter and accessory case alternator, like my RVX!
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Dec 21, 2013, at 11:14, "Nancy and Randy" <nrsage86@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Smokey, Merry Christmas! Still getting my Rocket up to speed; plan to actually
fly it shortly after the new year. I have been meaning to ask you about
aerobatics in the Rocket---especially spins. Do you have any words to the wise?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Tailwinds and blue skies,
>>> Randy
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Ray" <smokyray@rocketmail.com>
>>> To: <rocket-list@matronics.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 10:20 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Plans?
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Wow, a Rocket list message! Even better, someone wanting to build one? Yeah!
>>>>
>>>> Merry Christmas Y"all!
>>>> Smokey
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 21, 2013, at 7:48, Dylan Caldwell <macquistan@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello, All,
>>>>> Does anyone have a set of plans for the Harmon Rocket that they would be
willing to sell?
>>>>> Thanks much,
>>>>> Dylan
>
>
>
>
>
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Hey Dylan
You really need a set of RV-4 plans also. John would supply you with
the Rocket plans.
Merry Christmas
Chris
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