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Thu 08/21/14


Total Messages Posted: 3



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     1. 06:10 AM - Re: ZK-TWU gear leg update (nicoCSS)
     2. 06:31 AM - Re: ZK-TWU gear leg update (Stuart Hutchison)
     3. 06:43 AM - Re: Rocket II gear collapse (Nancy and Randy)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:10:39 AM PST US
    From: "nicoCSS" <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
    Subject: ZK-TWU gear leg update
    Hi Jay, How old is the airframe and could the climate in which it was primarily operated be a factor? This doesn't look like an hour-based problem. One may have to pull the under carriage apart every three years or so. Just my thoughts. Nico From: owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jay McIntyre Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 8:15 PM Subject: Rocket-List: ZK-TWU gear leg update Hi all... thanks for the various replies both on the list and off. We received the aircraft in the shop this morning and I was surprised to find that the leg had fractured clean off where it comes out of the tube on the engine mount. We have not had a chance to do any proper inspection as yet but it would appear that there is no damage to the engine mount, firewall or any part of the airframe other than paint damage on the RH wing tip. It has been suggested it could be a case of hydrogen embrittlement - God knows what you are meant to do to stop that in general maintenance terms and what sort of inspections would stop that... Attached are photos of the legs. LH leg is still in one peice but I believe it is bent. Hard to tell from the photo looking down the length of it, but the top of the leg does not seem to be in the same longitudinal plane as the rest of the gear leg - correct me if it is meant to be this way! (We are replacing both legs regardless) As you can see the smoking gun would appear to be the point where the leg exits the bushing in the leg socket as it appears to have sheared off where the shoulder has been created. Question is, what does one do about it to stop re-occurrence? Airframe has 1340 hours on it and I think the legs are the same age. Regards, Jay


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    Time: 06:31:09 AM PST US
    From: Stuart Hutchison <stuart@stuarthutchison.com.au>
    Subject: Re: ZK-TWU gear leg update
    What a great example of galling/spalling and stress risers !!! All of a sudden I=92m very glad my stilts have #5 Morse tapers at the top with a nut to torque periodically, which will stop the leg from work hardening in their sockets! Cheers, Stu On 21 Aug 2014, at 11:09 pm, nicoCSS <nico@cybersuperstore.com> wrote: > Hi Jay, > How old is the airframe and could the climate in which it was primarily operated be a factor? This doesn't look like an hour-based problem. One may have to pull the under carriage apart every three years or so. > Just my thoughts. > Nico > > > From: owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rocket-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jay McIntyre > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 8:15 PM > To: rocket-list@matronics.com > Subject: Rocket-List: ZK-TWU gear leg update > > Hi all... > thanks for the various replies both on the list and off. > We received the aircraft in the shop this morning and I was surprised to find that the leg had fractured clean off where it comes out of the tube on the engine mount. > We have not had a chance to do any proper inspection as yet but it would appear that there is no damage to the engine mount, firewall or any part of the airframe other than paint damage on the RH wing tip. > It has been suggested it could be a case of hydrogen embrittlement - God knows what you are meant to do to stop that in general maintenance terms and what sort of inspections would stop that... > > Attached are photos of the legs. LH leg is still in one peice but I believe it is bent. > Hard to tell from the photo looking down the length of it, but the top of the leg does not seem to be in the same longitudinal plane as the rest of the gear leg - correct me if it is meant to be this way! > (We are replacing both legs regardless) > > As you can see the smoking gun would appear to be the point where the leg exits the bushing in the leg socket as it appears to have sheared off where the shoulder has been created. > > Question is, what does one do about it to stop re-occurrence? Airframe has 1340 hours on it and I think the legs are the same age. > > Regards, Jay > > > >


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    Time: 06:43:14 AM PST US
    From: "Nancy and Randy" <nrsage86@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Rocket II gear collapse
    Jay, Just wanted to chime in here. I mounted a two-blade MT propeller (MTV-15-B-C/C203-58) on my HR2 (IO-540-C4B5) about a year ago and have had very good results. I shed about 15 pounds from the previous (Hartzell) installation, including a lighter and smaller propeller governor. That also resulted in a CG location a bit further aft (I think most HR2s have a pretty forward CG, no?). Another byproduct was the "aerobatic" prop governor which goes to "course" pitch in the event of an oil pressure loss and reduces the chance of over speeding the engine/prop during aerobatics (hammerheads/inverted flight). I have been seeing about 180 knots true airspeed at 2200 rpm and 22 inches of manifold pressure with just a touch over 12 gallons per hour fuel flow. Good luck with the rebuild effort. Thanks for keeping the group informed and I will definitely inspect my gear legs for any sign of corrosion. All the Best Randy Sage Peachtree City, Georgia USA ----- Original Message ----- From: Jay McIntyre To: rocket-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 6:06 AM Subject: Rocket-List: Rocket II gear collapse Hi all. I look after the maintenance on a Rocket II (S/N 004, ex N67CW) down here in New Zealand. Unfortunately it suffered a collapse of the RH gear leg on Saturday during take off on a grass strip. The pilot/owner thinks he hit a small depression/hole during the T/O roll which may have contributed to the final collapse. The aircraft is most often operated from grass strips so it is perhaps not a big surprise that a failure has occurred. (Naturally we keep a close eye on the engine mount / U/c mount during inspections but one can only see so much...) I have not actually seen the damage yet as the aircraft is in transit on a trailer but I imagine the leg socket has been ripped out of the engine mount as opposed to the titanium leg fracturing. Airframe damage appears to be minimal but we will see! (Photos of the damage have not been clear enough to show what has happened). I am trying to get ahead of the game prior to the aircraft's arrival at our facility by getting some information from the Rocket community as follows: 1)Short of operating off sealed strips, is there an improved engine mount that can be purchased / made that goes some way to preventing reoccurring cracks etc in the mount? 2) Is any of the F1 Rocket componentry usable on the Harmon Rocket II? eg the longer gear legs and engine mount. 3) Which prop should we go for? Engine is an IO-540B1C and the owners primary concern is speed... I have read that the stock standard Hartzell 2 blader is the best bet here? Who is out there supplying bits that will best suit our needs and get us flying again quickly? Thanks in advance, Jay JEM Aviation Ltd New Zealand www.jemavation.co.nz +64 3 578 3063




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