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Thu 08/27/15


Total Messages Posted: 3



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     1. 05:38 PM - Starting problem- solved (Jim Stone)
     2. 05:58 PM - Re: Starting problem- solved (Lee Logan)
     3. 06:23 PM - Re: Starting problem- solved (Vern Little)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:38:47 PM PST US
    From: Jim Stone <jrstone54@att.net>
    Subject: Starting problem- solved
    I pasted my original post below describing my starting problem for your ref erence. I would like to report I have found the solution to my problem. After a ver y thorough troubleshooting effort throughout the electro air system and my a ircraft wiring, I was able to isolate the problem to the magnetic sensor. O f course I had to remove the propeller to get access to the sensor and the c rank shaft timing wheel or CSTW. Even though my existing sensor omed-out in the normal range, it apparently was giving a false positive. I replaced th e magnetic sensor, propeller and the engine start experience return to norma l. Both cold and hot starts are similar to the starts I experienced before r emoving the impulse magneto. Thanks for your help, hope to meet you guys in the near future. Jim Stone . I'm looking for ideas to improve my start up both cold and hot. I have an IO 540 C4 B5 with a non impulse mag on the upper plugs and Electro Air Electronic ignition (latest version on the lower plugs), and all aviatio n plugs. I removed the slick impulse Mag a year ago after the Slick Rep advised me to "get it off that engine before it comes apart and stops your engine". I have been starting with just the ElectroAir and realized it is not my star ting technique as much as it is a lack of spark. ElectroAir told me that th e system has to measure a pretty fast cranking speed for what seems like a l ong time before it produces a spark. This cranking pulls the battery voltag e down and if the voltage to the ElectroAir controller falls below 11 volts, it no longer produces a spark. Of course I have no indication of no spark o ther than the obvious no start result. So with some luck the batteries hold up long enough tilI I get the mixture right, if not, recharge and try late r. I'm considering the slick start but it requires a different mag from Slick a nd a coupler which all together cost 2k.. Seems like a big price to pay for better start performance, but I'm considering it. Does anyone have a proven solution? TIA, Jim Stone Louisville Kentucky HR 11


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    Time: 05:58:23 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Starting problem- solved
    From: Lee Logan <leeloganster@gmail.com>
    Wasn't that your new paint job on VAF today? If so---WOW! Lee...


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    Time: 06:23:23 PM PST US
    From: Vern Little <voltar@vx-aviation.com>
    Subject: Re: Starting problem- solved
    Thanks for the explanation. BTW, I put a blast tube on my pickup. I took o ne apart to see how they are made and concluded that keeping them cool would help. Vern ===== Vernon R. Little | President, Vx Aviation > On Aug 27, 2015, at 5:38 PM, Jim Stone <jrstone54@att.net> wrote: > > I pasted my original post below describing my starting problem for your r eference. > I would like to report I have found the solution to my problem. After a v ery thorough troubleshooting effort throughout the electro air system and my aircraft wiring, I was able to isolate the problem to the magnetic sensor. Of course I had to remove the propeller to get access to the sensor and the crank shaft timing wheel or CSTW. Even though my existing sensor omed-out i n the normal range, it apparently was giving a false positive. I replaced t he magnetic sensor, propeller and the engine start experience return to norm al. Both cold and hot starts are similar to the starts I experienced before removing the impulse magneto. Thanks for your help, hope to meet you guys i n the near future. > Jim Stone > . > > I'm looking for ideas to improve my start up both cold and hot. > I have an IO 540 C4 B5 with a non impulse mag on the upper plugs and Elect roAir Electronic ignition (latest version on the lower plugs), and all aviat ion plugs. > I removed the slick impulse Mag a year ago after the Slick Rep advised me t o "get it off that engine before it comes apart and stops your engine". > I have been starting with just the ElectroAir and realized it is not my st arting technique as much as it is a lack of spark. ElectroAir told me that t he system has to measure a pretty fast cranking speed for what seems like a l ong time before it produces a spark. This cranking pulls the battery voltag e down and if the voltage to the ElectroAir controller falls below 11 volts, it no longer produces a spark. Of course I have no indication of no spark o ther than the obvious no start result. So with some luck the batteries hold up long enough tilI I get the mixture right, if not, recharge and try late r. > I'm considering the slick start but it requires a different mag from Slick and a coupler which all together cost 2k.. Seems like a big price to pay f or better start performance, but I'm considering it. > Does anyone have a proven solution? > TIA, > Jim Stone > Louisville Kentucky > HR 11 > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >




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