Today's Message Index:
----------------------
1. 12:39 AM - Re: RotaxEngines-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 04/23/06 (Martin Hone)
2. 04:35 AM - Re: 912(s) additive for 100LL (Jim Butcher)
3. 08:22 AM - Re: Re: 912(s) additive for 100LL (Bayne Just)
4. 09:02 AM - Re: Re: 912(s) additive for 100LL (B Johnson)
5. 09:15 AM - Re: Re: 912(s) additive for 100LL (Gilles Thesee)
6. 12:02 PM - Re: Re: 912(s) additive for 100LL (B Johnson)
Message 1
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | RE: RotaxEngines-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 04/23/06 |
--> RotaxEngines-List message posted by: "Martin Hone" <mctrader@bigpond.net.au>
G'Day Bruce,
I flew my Rotax 912-powered ultralight around Australia, and by necessity
had to use 100LL and Avgas 100/130, which has much more TEL than the 100LL.
The engine didn't seem to suffer any ill effects despite my continued use of
full synthetic oil (Amsoil 20w-50). However, I was happy to return to
unleaded about 92 flying hours later. And yes, I did change my oil and
filter about half way around, and again on my return.
Cheers
Martin in Oz
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
RotaxEngines-List Digest Server
Sent: Monday, 24 April 2006 4:57 PM
Subject: RotaxEngines-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 04/23/06
*
==================================================
Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive
==================================================
Today's complete RotaxEngines-List Digest can also be found in either of the
two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted
in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes
and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version
of the RotaxEngines-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor
such as Notepad or with a web browser.
HTML Version:
http://www.matronics.com/digest/rotaxengines-list/Digest.RotaxEngines-Li
st.2006-04-23.html
Text Version:
http://www.matronics.com/digest/rotaxengines-list/Digest.RotaxEngines-Li
st.2006-04-23.txt
================================================
EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive
================================================
RotaxEngines-List Digest Archive
---
Total Messages Posted Sun 04/23/06: 2
Today's Message Index:
----------------------
1. 08:21 AM - 912(s) additive for 100LL???? (B Johnson)
2. 11:26 AM - Re: 912(s) additive for 100LL???? (Gilles Thesee)
________________________________ Message 1
_____________________________________
Time: 08:21:44 AM PST US
From: "B Johnson" <bjohnson@satx.rr.com>
Subject: RotaxEngines-List: 912(s) additive for 100LL????
--> RotaxEngines-List message posted by: "B Johnson" <bjohnson@satx.rr.com>
Our 912s calls for 92octane auto fuel if available. We will be doing a long
cross country which will require several tanks of 100LL. I've heard of
additives to reduce the lead buildup when using 100LL, what have some of you
had success with???
Thanks
Bruce Johnson
StingSport sLSA - rotex 912s with full time carb heat
--
________________________________ Message 2
_____________________________________
Time: 11:26:51 AM PST US
From: Gilles Thesee <Gilles.Thesee@ac-grenoble.fr>
Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: 912(s) additive for 100LL????
--> RotaxEngines-List message posted by: Gilles Thesee
<Gilles.Thesee@ac-grenoble.fr>
B Johnson a crit :
> --> RotaxEngines-List message posted by: "B Johnson"
<bjohnson@satx.rr.com>
>
> Our 912s calls for 92octane auto fuel if available. We will be doing a
long
> cross country which will require several tanks of 100LL. I've heard of
> additives to reduce the lead buildup when using 100LL, what have some of
you
> had success with???
>
>
Hi Bruce,
We've been using 100 LL for the first 40 hours in our Rotax 914. No problem.
Just make sure you're using the correct oil for the 100 LL, as specified
by Rotax, and change oil and plugs more often.
If it were my airplane, I'd be wary of any additive not recommended by
Rotax.
Regards,
Gilles Thesee
Grenoble, France
http://contrails.free.fr
Message 2
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: 912(s) additive for 100LL |
--> RotaxEngines-List message posted by: "Jim Butcher" <europa@triton.net>
Bruce,
I can't find it in any articles, but at SNF & OSH seminars by Phil Lockwood,
he recommends TCP when using 100LL. You also need to change the oil more
frequently - 25 hrs. Aircraft Spruce sells TCP but it requires a hazardous
fee. They also have another product which supposedly works like TCP but
isn't hazardous. We haven't used either yet. Would be interested in
comments on the "other stuff".
Jim & Heather Butcher
Europa 914
In flight test
Message 3
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: 912(s) additive for 100LL |
--> RotaxEngines-List message posted by: "Bayne Just" <bjust@cox.net>
The other stuff is Decalin
http://www.decalinchemicals.com/
I believe Sky Geek has the best price on Alcor TCP
http://store.yahoo.com/stylespilotshop/fueloilad.html
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Butcher" <europa@triton.net>
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 4:33 AM
Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: 912(s) additive for 100LL
> --> RotaxEngines-List message posted by: "Jim Butcher" <europa@triton.net>
>
> Bruce,
>
> I can't find it in any articles, but at SNF & OSH seminars by Phil
Lockwood,
> he recommends TCP when using 100LL. You also need to change the oil more
> frequently - 25 hrs. Aircraft Spruce sells TCP but it requires a
hazardous
> fee. They also have another product which supposedly works like TCP but
> isn't hazardous. We haven't used either yet. Would be interested in
> comments on the "other stuff".
>
> Jim & Heather Butcher
> Europa 914
> In flight test
>
>
--
Message 4
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: 912(s) additive for 100LL |
--> RotaxEngines-List message posted by: "B Johnson" <bjohnson@satx.rr.com>
Thanks to all that responded... Gonna look into TCP and the Alternative...
-Bruce
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Butcher" <europa@triton.net>
> To: <rotaxengines-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 4:33 AM
> Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: 912(s) additive for 100LL
>
>
> > --> RotaxEngines-List message posted by: "Jim Butcher"
> <europa@triton.net>
> >
> > Bruce,
> >
> > I can't find it in any articles, but at SNF & OSH seminars by Phil
> Lockwood,
> > he recommends TCP when using 100LL. You also need to change the oil
> more
> > frequently - 25 hrs. Aircraft Spruce sells TCP but it requires a
> hazardous
> > fee. They also have another product which supposedly works like TCP but
> > isn't hazardous. We haven't used either yet. Would be interested in
> > comments on the "other stuff".
> >
> > Jim & Heather Butcher
> > Europa 914
> > In flight test
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
--
Message 5
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: 912(s) additive for 100LL |
--> RotaxEngines-List message posted by: Gilles Thesee <Gilles.Thesee@ac-grenoble.fr>
B Johnson a crit :
> --> RotaxEngines-List message posted by: "B Johnson" <bjohnson@satx.rr.com>
>
> Thanks to all that responded... Gonna look into TCP and the Alternative...
>
>
By the way, Bruce, why would you *need* to add something in your fuel ?
Why not just follow the engine manufacturer recommendations ? Thousands
of Rotax are successfully flying in Europe, and 100 LL is the same as in
your country.
Regards,
Gilles Thesee
Grenoble, France
http://contrails.free.fr
Message 6
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: 912(s) additive for 100LL |
--> RotaxEngines-List message posted by: "B Johnson" <bjohnson@satx.rr.com>
Good point, and that is exactly the kind of feedback I'm looking for... My
concern is the lead fouling the plugs and causing buildup on the inside of
the heads/valves, and pistons. I just helped my cfi/AP take her C85 apart
for rebuild with 2300hrs smoh, and I've seen what lead buildup can do to an
engine that is designed for a lower lead fuel...
It seams to me, in the higher compression 912S, these uneven deposits would
increase the chance of detonation or pre-ignition????
-Bruce
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-
> rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gilles Thesee
> Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 11:15 AM
> To: rotaxengines-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: Re: 912(s) additive for 100LL
>
> --> RotaxEngines-List message posted by: Gilles Thesee <Gilles.Thesee@ac-
> grenoble.fr>
>
> B Johnson a crit :
> > --> RotaxEngines-List message posted by: "B Johnson"
> <bjohnson@satx.rr.com>
> >
> > Thanks to all that responded... Gonna look into TCP and the
> Alternative...
> >
> >
> By the way, Bruce, why would you *need* to add something in your fuel ?
> Why not just follow the engine manufacturer recommendations ? Thousands
> of Rotax are successfully flying in Europe, and 100 LL is the same as in
> your country.
>
> Regards,
> Gilles Thesee
> Grenoble, France
> http://contrails.free.fr
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
--
Other Matronics Email List Services
These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.
-- Please support this service by making your Contribution today! --
|