---------------------------------------------------------- RotaxEngines-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 07/28/06: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:15 AM - Re: Initial oil fill on new engine (Jean-Paul Roy) 2. 05:23 AM - Re: Initial oil fill on new engine (Thom Riddle) 3. 05:27 AM - Re: Static RPM - 912UL (Thom Riddle) 4. 08:35 AM - Re: Static RPM - 912UL (Jack Kuehn) 5. 11:01 AM - Re: Static RPM - 912UL (Thom Riddle) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:15:46 AM PST US From: "Jean-Paul Roy" Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: Initial oil fill on new engine --> RotaxEngines-List message posted by: "Jean-Paul Roy" Ron, where can you get theses updates from? Thanks Jean-Paul Roy ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 12:11 AM > --> RotaxEngines-List message posted by: > > Hello Hugh > > "Ron: I am following what I believe is the correct up dated manual, > > "Installation Manual for Rotax 912UL Aircraft Engine", Edition 2 of 1997 03 > > 26. It came with my engine. What do you mean "There are a few things where > > following your manual is not the best thing to do"?" > > You are not going to like what I am going to say because it means more > work than you would care to put towards updating your manual. > > Rotax, just like Continental and Lycoming do not offer a manual that is up > to date when you get your engine. They expect you to search out all > updates and pertinent information and incorporate. I spelled out how to do > it. > > For 1 thing as I explained in prior E-Mail is their updated way of venting > (or priming) your engine with oil. Make absolute sure your manual is up to > date on this, if you follow their old recommendation you could hurt motor! > > There is all sorts of things you should be aware of not in your manual, > using Whacker silicon based thermal conductive compound on spark plugs, > and proper torque, make sure you have updated float pivot pins, your > ignition trigger pickup coils are not defective ones, you have updated > kevlar reinforced boots for carb to manifold, you have latest recommended > jets and jet needle settings, just recent bad hardware check, check > trigger coil gap, read on their recommendation to use a oil thermostat, > read on proper pressure radiator caps, read on how to use Evans coolant > and how to flush and how to change manual if using traditional coolant, if > using traditional coolant exact what type to not cause corrosion, how you > should only use distilled water, make sure you have oil connections on > bottom of motor set for tractor or pusher, newest information on gearbox,. > BTW you do understand that the helical gears on gearbox side load springs > during cylinder firing, and give back some energy when not firing, > critical to long life to have motor run smooth, follow bulletin for cold > weather carb settings, importance of getting float bowl vent in static > air, read about heavy duty starter (if you have S replace old style before > you start), make sure you have new style dipstick, read about how to > tighten carb boots or install spacers so no over tightening, read about > bad oil filters. > > This is just what fell out my head, probably 90% accurate, there is alot > more in my updated manual. > > Ron Parigoris > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:23:54 AM PST US From: Thom Riddle Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: Initial oil fill on new engine Hugh, Here is a link to find the installation manual and revisions, latest is 2004. http://tinyurl.com/ft4r2 This is the link to find SBs on your engine. It is not hard to do. Easiest way is to search using the serial number of your engine. This eliminates those that apply only to other engines. Among others, there is one there about the oil venting which is 912-036. http://www.rotax-owner.com/ Thom in Buffalo ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:27:16 AM PST US From: Thom Riddle Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: Static RPM - 912UL --> RotaxEngines-List message posted by: Thom Riddle Sonny, I had a GSC in-flight adjustable prop on my old Titan Tornado and it was great. I believe the cost is around $1,400. It is mechanically adjusted with a vernier control just like that of a constant speed prop, but without the governor. In my opinion it is better than the IVO electric adjustable in common use in the USA. If you are interested, there website is http://www.ultralightprops.com/gta_inflight_adjustable_props/ adjustprops.htm I don't have one on the Allegro because we want to keep it legal S-LSA. Thom in Buffalo ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:35:05 AM PST US From: Jack Kuehn Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: Static RPM - 912UL --> RotaxEngines-List message posted by: Jack Kuehn Thom, I had not seen the GSC props. They look really good, and the in-flight adjustable looks simple and elegant. I am not altogether happy with my Ivo three blade for a couple of reasons: first there is no good provision for leading edge protection, the stainless steel tape they recommend does not stay put for long. The prop itself does not appear very presicely made and I can't get away from the feeling that I would have a smoother running setup with something else. The adjustment mechanism is easy and effective, but I would trade that for higher quality, and I am tempted by the in-flight adjustable feature for all the reasons we have heard in these pages. There is another good looking prop that is relatively new. Check out: http://www.tampabayaerosport.com/propellers.html Does anyone have experience with this setup? Jack Thom Riddle wrote: > --> RotaxEngines-List message posted by: Thom Riddle > > > Sonny, > > I had a GSC in-flight adjustable prop on my old Titan Tornado and it > was great. I believe the cost is around $1,400. It is mechanically > adjusted with a vernier control just like that of a constant speed > prop, but without the governor. In my opinion it is better than the > IVO electric adjustable in common use in the USA. If you are > interested, there website is > > http://www.ultralightprops.com/gta_inflight_adjustable_props/ > adjustprops.htm > > I don't have one on the Allegro because we want to keep it legal S-LSA. > > Thom in Buffalo > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RotaxEngines-List > http://wiki.matronics.com > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:01:12 AM PST US From: "Thom Riddle" Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Static RPM - 912UL --> RotaxEngines-List message posted by: "Thom Riddle" Jack, One (main) reason I liked the GSC vs. all the electric operated props is that it is mechanical and you tell by the number of turns on the knob exactly where you are in pitch. There is no gauge nor need for one. The electric props, at least the ones I've seen, have brush wear issues and you cannot tell exactly where you are in the pitch range. Also, the prop is very well built and rugged. Mine had the Maple blades (light weight) with a leading edge insert of some sort of black material that was harder than all the rocks and stones that hit. With the pusher configuration, the main gear tends to pick up stones and throw them into the prop. My prop showed no damage after 6 years and three hundred hours of use. If you prefer, they can also fit Warp Drive blades to their prop hub. I know it sounds like I'm selling the GSC but I'm just pilot who has had very good results with the product. -------- Thom in Buffalo Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=50357#50357