RotaxEngines-List Digest Archive

Sat 02/24/07


Total Messages Posted: 3



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     1. 01:02 AM - Re: Which is the best 2 stroke Rotax 447, 503 or 582 ???? (jetboy)
     2. 04:22 AM - Re: Re: Dynamic prop balance and TipsRe: Dynamic prop balance and Tips (Thom Riddle)
     3. 08:18 AM - Re: Re: Dynamic prop balance and TipsRe: Dynamic prop balance and Tips (Duncan & Ami McFadyean)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:02:55 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Which is the best 2 stroke Rotax 447, 503 or 582
    ????
    From: "jetboy" <sanson.r@xtra.co.nz>
    Gary, Apologies for the confusion...I mean the best advice from Kodiak in the USA is that cranks in the 2 cycle rotax series should be inspected at 300hrs for cracks and the preferred procedure is to replace them with new at that time. The flight school operators would choose to swap out the engine for a new one and let the next guy down the food chain deal with the bargain. In NZ our importer dealer of the day took us through a 200hr stripdown inspection of a 582 and that included looking for crankshaft cracks (visual inspection only) and he had been to Austria and done the official training so must be right (and sells parts, too). Coming from a GA background I was a bit surprised at such short lifecycles - in reality most engines will go further than the 300 hrs without trouble but for a whole lot of factors a 4 stroke is much more durable. My first was a 503 that had about 300hrs when I got it and did another 3.5 when it blew. The small rod end bearings were the earlier type and had pitted due to lack of previous owners useage and decided to let go on climbout at 900 ft. I bought a new one this time with the dual carbs this was the year before dual ignition which I would have really liked to have. I did 150hrs on this one just one incident of high fuel consumption due to timing off of one points set - easily set right. I sold that plane so dont know the rest. I was confident with that engine and it pulled close to the same thrust as others on the field with the '532 and '582. I think I had the edge with a better prop. With a new piston and bearings the old engine went on for a while but a new owner wanted to add dual carbs and never completed that change (and frankly I think the motor was tired enough by then). CPS is California Power Systems I think their website is airwolf or something like that and Mike Stratman also does some of the Ultraflight Radio weekly www broadcasts on the subjects of "care and feeding of the Rotax". Very good listening even though I dont drive them nowadays I still get to help out with some and there is allways lots to re-learn Ralph -------- Ralph - CH701 / 2200a Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=97019#97019


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    Time: 04:22:14 AM PST US
    From: Thom Riddle <thomriddle@adelphia.net>
    Subject: Re: Dynamic prop balance and TipsRe: Dynamic prop
    balance and Tips ....a lot of the oil remained trapped in the sump, so some splash lubrication and cooling would have been present. DuncanMcF.... The sump in the 912 series engines in not the bottom of the crankcase; it is a separate tank, so how could oil in the sump provide "splash lubrication and cooling" ? Thom in Buffalo do not archive


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    Time: 08:18:53 AM PST US
    From: "Duncan & Ami McFadyean" <ami@MCFADYEAN.FREESERVE.CO.UK>
    Subject: Re: Dynamic prop balance and TipsRe: Dynamic prop
    balance and Tips Because return of oil to the separate tank had failed (for whatever reason, but probably because the return pipe under the 'sump' had coked-up due to being too close to the exhaust). Blow-by pressure (and some of the oil) was leaking past the pushrod tube seals (or thereabouts). Duncan McF. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thom Riddle" <thomriddle@adelphia.net> Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 12:20 PM Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Dynamic prop balance and TipsRe: Dynamic prop balance and Tips > <thomriddle@adelphia.net> > > ....a lot of the oil remained trapped > in the sump, so some splash lubrication and cooling would have been > present. > > DuncanMcF.... > > > The sump in the 912 series engines in not the bottom of the crankcase; it > is a separate tank, so how could oil in the sump provide "splash > lubrication and cooling" ? > > Thom in Buffalo > do not archive > >




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