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Tue 09/25/07


Total Messages Posted: 4



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     1. 07:54 AM - Rotax 912 Drip tray (rampil)
     2. 10:59 AM - Re: Rotax 912 Drip tray (Hugh McKay III)
     3. 02:04 PM - Re: Rotax 912 Drip tray (Roger Lee)
     4. 02:45 PM - Re: Rotax 912 Drip tray (rampil)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:54:03 AM PST US
    Subject: Rotax 912 Drip tray
    From: "rampil" <ira.rampil@gmail.com>
    Greetings All, I just attempted to install the factory drip tray/heat shields on my 912s. Since this information is not published elsewhere, I am writing it here and referring to the molded Rotax Part No. 874 300. The standard UK carb heat system I have installed between the carbs and rubber flange on the intake manifold prevents the drip tray from fitting around the base of the float bowl. The back end of the tray pushes up on the bottom of the bowl and prevents movement of the retaining clip. Also, the tray is too short to completely protect the base of the carb. Sufficient grinding of the back wall of the tray will relieve the pressure and potential abrasion on the bottom of the carb, but t will still leave the tray too short to protect the float bowl from exhaust heat (which was my purpose for buying them in the first place) Since I regard the carb heat system as mandatory for the engine, the factory supplied drip tray is a waste of $160. I am now designing a new tray similar to the original factory tray which will work with the carb heat installed. -------- Ira N224XS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=136334#136334


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    Time: 10:59:54 AM PST US
    From: "Hugh McKay III" <hgmckay@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Rotax 912 Drip tray
    Ira: In the Rotax 912 UL installation manual (I do not know what the 912S says), there is only a one sentence statement that, a "suitable plate under the carburetor serving as a drip pan and heat shield should be provided". This leaves a lot for interpretation by those who supply these "drip pans". The drip pans for my 912 UL came from the airplane supplier (Fantasy Air) and fit perfectly. I do not have carb. heat. I suspect your drip pans may be for installing without the Carb. heat attachment. In any case this is an example of poor coordination of your airframe supplier with the requirements to properly fit the Rotax 912S engine. You are probably not alone in your problem. I'm sure others will want to know how you fixed the problem. Hugh McKay Allegro 2000 N661WW 912UL -----Original Message----- From: owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of rampil Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 10:52 AM Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Rotax 912 Drip tray Greetings All, I just attempted to install the factory drip tray/heat shields on my 912s. Since this information is not published elsewhere, I am writing it here and referring to the molded Rotax Part No. 874 300. The standard UK carb heat system I have installed between the carbs and rubber flange on the intake manifold prevents the drip tray from fitting around the base of the float bowl. The back end of the tray pushes up on the bottom of the bowl and prevents movement of the retaining clip. Also, the tray is too short to completely protect the base of the carb. Sufficient grinding of the back wall of the tray will relieve the pressure and potential abrasion on the bottom of the carb, but t will still leave the tray too short to protect the float bowl from exhaust heat (which was my purpose for buying them in the first place) Since I regard the carb heat system as mandatory for the engine, the factory supplied drip tray is a waste of $160. I am now designing a new tray similar to the original factory tray which will work with the carb heat installed. -------- Ira N224XS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=136334#136334


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    Time: 02:04:41 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Rotax 912 Drip tray
    From: "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1@yahoo.com>
    Hi Rampil, I know there are some Flight Design CT's in the UK and maybe you are close to one. Take a look at their fuel drip trays. It is flat, about 6" long, turns up on the sides about 1/4" and in the front facing towards the engine up 1/4". It is open at the back. This shields it from the exhaust and keeps any fuel from spilling on the hot exhaust if a carb leaks and channels it out away from the engine. -------- Roger Lee Tucson, Az. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=136418#136418


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    Time: 02:45:09 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Rotax 912 Drip tray
    From: "rampil" <ira.rampil@gmail.com>
    Hi Roger, Actually I am only half way between Arizona and the UK in New York. Indeed I am only about 20 flight mi to the CTSW factory in Connecticut. During my 912 line maint. course with Dean at SnF this past spring, we field dissected the 912s powerplant of a CT which had been damaged in shipping. The flat tray is the old design I mentioned in my prior post, but it is not now available from any source I know. My new design should resemble it, except I plan to use stainless 18-20ga sheet and to angle the bottom surface high on the outboard side, deflecting possible exhaust heat towards the cowl rather than towards the engine core, gas lines, and ignition modules. The funny thing is that discussed the drip trays with Tisha, Kerry and Dean at Oshkosk, and they were all apparently unaware that the extra 0.75" of the carb heat system renders the current factory tray useless. This is why I am publishing this info in an indexed site. Hugh, thanks for your thoughs, my steed is a homebuilt Europa, and so there is no coordination between suppliers ;-) I would strongly encourage you to investigate the carb heater for your Allegro if you live in a vunerable area of the US (and I can not think of an area, except Arizona perhaps which does not see Carb ice from time to time) Ira -------- Ira N224XS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=136426#136426




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