RotaxEngines-List Digest Archive

Wed 04/30/08


Total Messages Posted: 6



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     1. 04:51 AM - Engine rotating backwards (Catz631@aol.com)
     2. 05:02 AM - Re: Magnetic Plugs (Thom Riddle)
     3. 06:34 AM - Re: Magnetic Plugs (Ivor Phillips)
     4. 07:49 AM - Re: Engine rotating backwards (Noel Loveys)
     5. 08:30 AM - Re: Engine rotating backwards (rampil)
     6. 08:46 AM - Re: Re: Engine rotating backwards (David Key)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:51:10 AM PST US
    From: Catz631@aol.com
    Subject: Engine rotating backwards
    Yesterday at engine shutdown my 912UL rotated 3 revolutions backwards. It sounded just like an old car with engine runon when you shut it down (ie; it had a knocking/pinging sound) The outside airtemp was about 70 degrees .The water and oil temps were normal.The indicated engine rpm was 2000 at shutdown. The only thing that I can think of that might have caused it was the fuel.It was car gas about two months old and 87 octane which I keep in a 30 gal bowser. The plane (Kitfox)had been down for two months for various mods on my aircraft. I called Lockwood and they recommend I purge the oil system for possible induced air in the system. The tech had never heard of this happening. I will purge the system and check the valve clerances and have also bought some fresh high test auto fuel to try to see if that helps. Has anybody ever had this happen? Dick Maddux Kitfox4-1200 Rotax912UL Pensacola,Fl **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851)


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    Time: 05:02:29 AM PST US
    From: Thom Riddle <riddletr@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Magnetic Plugs
    Roger, My illustrated parts catalog in pdf format shows a part number for the magnetic plug to be 241785. Searching on this number or the description finds nothing on CPS's on-line catalog. I went to LEAF's online catalog and searched on "magnetic drain plug" and came up with a part number 241784 but no illustration to see if this is the new one or the older internal Torqx style. LEAF's listed price for 241784 is about $37. Do you have the correct part number for the new external hex head magnetic plug? Thom in Buffalo


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    Time: 06:34:42 AM PST US
    From: "Ivor Phillips" <ivor.phillips@ntlworld.com>
    Subject: Magnetic Plugs
    Part number is 241-785 and is priced at 24.53 sterling about$50 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Thom Riddle Sent: 30 April 2008 13:00 Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: Magnetic Plugs <riddletr@gmail.com> Roger, My illustrated parts catalog in pdf format shows a part number for the magnetic plug to be 241785. Searching on this number or the description finds nothing on CPS's on-line catalog. I went to LEAF's online catalog and searched on "magnetic drain plug" and came up with a part number 241784 but no illustration to see if this is the new one or the older internal Torqx style. LEAF's listed price for 241784 is about $37. Do you have the correct part number for the new external hex head magnetic plug? Thom in Buffalo


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    Time: 07:49:06 AM PST US
    From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
    Subject: Engine rotating backwards
    I've seen it happen to other engines and I think you hit the nail on the head with your assessment of old fuel. The pinging is another give away. Noel From: owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Catz631@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 9:19 AM Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Engine rotating backwards Yesterday at engine shutdown my 912UL rotated 3 revolutions backwards. It sounded just like an old car with engine runon when you shut it down (ie; it had a knocking/pinging sound) The outside airtemp was about 70 degrees .The water and oil temps were normal.The indicated engine rpm was 2000 at shutdown. The only thing that I can think of that might have caused it was the fuel.It was car gas about two months old and 87 octane which I keep in a 30 gal bowser. The plane (Kitfox)had been down for two months for various mods on my aircraft. I called Lockwood and they recommend I purge the oil system for possible induced air in the system. The tech had never heard of this happening. I will purge the system and check the valve clerances and have also bought some fresh high test auto fuel to try to see if that helps. Has anybody ever had this happen? Dick Maddux Kitfox4-1200 Rotax912UL Pensacola,Fl _____ Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos <http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851> .


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    Time: 08:30:56 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Engine rotating backwards
    From: "rampil" <ira.rampil@gmail.com>
    Are you really sure the prop went backwards? Could it have been an optical illusion? Backwards rotation should not be possible in a mechanically sound engine. Do purge the oil system of air anyway! -------- Ira N224XS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=180262#180262


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    Time: 08:46:29 AM PST US
    From: David Key <dhkey@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: Engine rotating backwards
    Just turn the plane around.> Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Engine rotatin g backwards> From: ira.rampil@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 08:27:20 -0 700> To: rotaxengines-list@matronics.com> > --> RotaxEngines-List message p osted by: "rampil" <ira.rampil@gmail.com>> > Are you really sure the prop w ent backwards? Could it have been> an optical illusion? Backwards rotation should not be possible in a > mechanically sound engine.> > Do purge the oi l system of air anyway!> > --------> Ira N224XS> > > > > Read this topic on line here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=180262#180262> =========> > >




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