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1. 12:54 AM - Re: 914 Overhaul (Icrashrc@aol.com)
2. 04:29 AM - Re: 914 Overhaul (R Holder)
3. 05:50 AM - Re: Silicone for Spark Plug Threads (Catz631@aol.com)
4. 07:05 AM - Re: 914 Overhaul (Graham Singleton)
5. 12:49 PM - 914 Coolant temperature sensor (Fergus Kyle)
6. 12:54 PM - Re: heat transfer compound (Roger Lee)
7. 01:16 PM - Re: 914 Coolant temperature sensor (Robert Borger)
8. 04:09 PM - (Tracy)
9. 04:41 PM - Re: ()
10. 05:31 PM - Re: Re: heat transfer compound (Noel Loveys)
11. 09:53 PM - Re: 914 Coolant temperature sensor (Robert C Harrison)
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| Subject: | Re: 914 Overhaul |
I would think at the very least the pistons would be different. Most
turbocharged engines run a lower compession ration to keep preignition at bay.
Also,
the 80 and 100 horse engines are not even the same displacement. Do you know if
they started with one or the other when they developed the 914?
Scott
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| Subject: | Re: 914 Overhaul |
Icrashrc@aol.com wrote:
> I would think at the very least the pistons would be
> different. Most turbocharged engines run a lower
> compession ration to keep preignition at bay. Also, the
> 80 and 100 horse engines are not even the same
> displacement. Do you know if they started with one or
> the other when they developed the 914?
The Lockwood catalog is very useful with this. there are
exploded diagrams of all the 912/914 parts with part lists
and applications.
Page 56 of their 07-08 catalog shows that the piston for
912S is 888 381 and the piston for 912 and 914 is 996 549.
The 912 (80 bhp) came first, then the 914 with the same
innerds, followed by the 912S (100 bhp).
According to this catalog the 912 and 914 heads are the
same, and the 912S head is different. Simiiarily the barrels.
If I was doing what you suggested I would buy the 912 for
all the parts and use the 914 block (I mean crankcase).
Whether there would be any value in the old-914-parts
built 912 I don't know ! There are a number of things that
wouldn't come with the new 912 - such as the double ganged
oil pump.
I suspect that buying a whole engine might well be cheaper
than buying the individual parts, as the parts are mighty
expensive ! But it might be best not to let your supplier
know what you intended to do !
Here in the UK I understand that such rebuilding may not
be permitted, but in the land of the free - you are free :-)
HTH
Richard Holder
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| Subject: | Re: Silicone for Spark Plug Threads |
Thom,
Roger is right on the money ! The instructor Dean at Lockwood said pretty
much the identical thing . I too have been using Champion anti seize for
over 35 years on all my Cont/Lycs but this is a heat transfer paste not an anti
seize (although it is that too) Rotax specifies its use on the 900 series and
it is cheap .Us "old farts" can still learn to change our ideas from time to
time.
Dick Maddux
Rotax 912 UL
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| Subject: | Re: 914 Overhaul |
Paul McAllister wrote:
Paul
crankcase leaks are not uncommon. Also crankcase fretting, there are
seals on the hold down studs and they get worn. Then oil goes up the
studs and out at the base of the cylinder.
New engines have sealant round the base of the cylinders, which seems a
bit like an afterthought!
Graham
> Hi Gilles,
>
> >You seem to suppose that a 914 overhaul is more expensive than a brand
> >new 912 ? Is that really so ?
> >--
> >Gilles
>
> Actually to be honest I don't know the most recent cost for a 914
> overhaul. Two years ago I was quoted about $12,000 USD so I can only
> suppose that is cost more now.
>
> Cheers, Paul
>
>
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| Subject: | 914 Coolant temperature sensor |
Hello,
I am at the stage of installing a coolant temperature sensor and
wiring to the coolant system on my Europa 914.
I am sure there are better sites onto which to install the sensor,
but I was hoping to get agreement from similar owners to fit it on the
downward coolant line running back from the reservoir on top to the radiator
directly below. I have not read the specific instructions as yet, but am
fearful of disturbing a complex area immediately behind the reservoir
because of its tight component population.
Is it workable to take temps from the vertical coolant line?
Regards,
Ferg
Europa A064
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| Subject: | Re: heat transfer compound |
Hi Noel,
I don't see any thing to criticize. You torque the plugs within 1 ft/lb. Not a
big deal since many don't torque them at all.
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Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=186081#186081
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| Subject: | Re: 914 Coolant temperature sensor |
Ferg,
Check my build website at Europa Owners. Go to Year #7, Q1 2008, page 1 for pics
and words on the installation of my coolant temperature sensor. I believe
that this is where the factory recommends installing the sensor. I'm sure that
anywhere along the line from the coolant manifold down to the radiator will
do if you prefer not to disassemble all the plumbing and other assorted hardware
on the upper aft of the engine. Do remember that you may have to work on
this thing again at some point in the future. Back behind the engine on the vertical
line may be a difficult location to access.
Good building and great flying,
Bob Borger
http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL
On Tuesday, June 03, 2008, at 02:54PM, "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca> wrote:
>
>Hello,
> I am at the stage of installing a coolant temperature sensor and
>wiring to the coolant system on my Europa 914.
> I am sure there are better sites onto which to install the sensor,
>but I was hoping to get agreement from similar owners to fit it on the
>downward coolant line running back from the reservoir on top to the radiator
>directly below. I have not read the specific instructions as yet, but am
>fearful of disturbing a complex area immediately behind the reservoir
>because of its tight component population.
> Is it workable to take temps from the vertical coolant line?
>Regards,
>Ferg
>Europa A064
>
>
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im installing a 914 in 701 and wondering what eveyone used for the one way check
valve and if the put a fuel shutoff before or after fuel pumps?
thanks
Tracy
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Hi Tracy
"im installing a 914 in 701 and wondering what eveyone used for the one
way check valve and if the put a fuel shutoff before or after fuel pumps?"
I have a Europa with 914. Fuel shut off is before fuel pumps and
gasculators. Using Andair 1 way valves.
Some pics and info:
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Click 3rd album down
Click on 3rd row:
Album: 914 modular fuel system. Series with bypass, two Andair 375s.
Ron Parigoris
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| Subject: | Re: heat transfer compound |
I'm a bit anal about torque and using a calibrated wrench. I have been
criticized for doing the lower torque but I do it for two reasons. 1. I
pull my plugs a lot... I never really trust the EGTs to do more than give me
a trend. Plugs will always tell the whole story. 2. I feel the 20 in. Lb.
will create less stretching of the heads. I've been torquing plugs into
outboard engines, snowmobiles etc.. for more years than I like to think
about and I've yet to strip a thread.. I've also yet to lose a plug from
having it too loose.
The important thing is consistency. You can only get that if you use a
torque wrench or for the real small stuff a torque meter.
Thanks for the reply Roger
Noel
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[mailto:owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Lee
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 5:22 PM
Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: heat transfer compound
Hi Noel,
I don't see any thing to criticize. You torque the plugs within 1 ft/lb. Not
a big deal since many don't torque them at all.
--------
Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=186081#186081
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| Subject: | 914 Coolant temperature sensor |
Hi! Ferg
The sensor MUST be at the hottest common point in the system and this
must be just after the header tank (which receives the coolant from each
cylinder head on top of the engine) and before the radiator intake.
Which I think is the same place that you are proposing.
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
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[mailto:owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Fergus Kyle
Sent: 03 June 2008 20:47
Subject: RotaxEngines-List: 914 Coolant temperature sensor
Hello,
I am at the stage of installing a coolant temperature sensor and
wiring to the coolant system on my Europa 914.
I am sure there are better sites onto which to install the
sensor,
but I was hoping to get agreement from similar owners to fit it on the
downward coolant line running back from the reservoir on top to the
radiator
directly below. I have not read the specific instructions as yet, but am
fearful of disturbing a complex area immediately behind the reservoir
because of its tight component population.
Is it workable to take temps from the vertical coolant line?
Regards,
Ferg
Europa A064
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