RotaxEngines-List Digest Archive

Thu 04/02/09


Total Messages Posted: 6



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     1. 02:08 AM - Re: Otiker clamps and crimping tool (was Re: Vapor Lock and E-10 (Robert C Harrison)
     2. 05:57 AM - Re: Vapor Lock and E-10 mogas (rampil)
     3. 08:38 AM - Re: Re: Vapor Lock and E-10 mogas (george may)
     4. 09:19 AM - Has anyone raised setpoint of Ducati regulator on a 91X? (rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us)
     5. 12:15 PM - Re: Otiker clamps and crimping tool (was Re: Vapor Lock and E-10 (Hugh)
     6. 04:18 PM - Otiker clamps and crimping tool (was Re: Vapor Lock and E-10 (Roger Lee)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:08:06 AM PST US
    From: "Robert C Harrison" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: Otiker clamps and crimping tool (was Re: Vapor
    Lock and E-10 Ivor Phillips(G-IVER)put me onto a Halfords(UK)part made by Laser Engineering, a cable operated remote applicator to work spring clips,(part No. 4024) No need for fingers and hands to do the gynecology thing. I had to slightly modify it for the large water hose clips. See:- www.lasertools.co.uk It is covered by US Patent 6,370,985,B1. and described as Hose Clamp Pliers, Long Reach. I modified mine by increasing the grab lip depth to 1/4" which then caters for the larger diameter spring clip. Regards Bob Harrison G-PTAG -----Original Message----- From: owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Lee Sent: 02 April 2009 06:57 Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Otiker clamps and crimping tool (was Re: Vapor Lock and E-10 <ssadiver1@yahoo.com> Here is just one link to get Otiker clamps and pliers. I usually just buy the kit with the pliers and an assortment of single ear band clamps. Then when I need replacement clamps I order them separately. There are other websites that have Otiker clamps and pliers. http://chadstoolbox.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=521 -------- Roger Lee Tucson, Az. Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated Rotax Service Center 520-574-1080 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=237353#237353


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    Time: 05:57:15 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Vapor Lock and E-10 mogas
    From: "rampil" <ira.rampil@gmail.com>
    Hi Craig, re the small resitrictor on return flow. I suspect that it really is there to give any formed vapor a place to go and get it out of a dangerous area! Ira -------- Ira N224XS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=237364#237364


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    Time: 08:38:43 AM PST US
    From: george may <gfmjr_20@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Vapor Lock and E-10 mogas
    Don't forget to put your "fuel line in fire sleeve and dip" OK Roger =2Cyou got me on this one. What do you mean by dip the ends and in to what.? George May 601XL 912 > Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Vapor Lock and E-10 mogas > From: ssadiver1@yahoo.com > Date: Wed=2C 1 Apr 2009 18:29:53 -0700 > To: rotaxengines-list@matronics.com > > > > Hi Craig and Ira=2C > > Looks like you guys are on top of it. The return lines are very easy to i nstall. Many just return to a gasolator like many of the SLSA's and ELSA's or back to a header tank if you don't have a gasolator. > > p.s. > Don't forget to put your fuel line in fire sleeve and dip the ends of the fire sleeve=2C plus you should be using band clamps (Otiker is one type an d easy to use) and not worm drive clamps. > > There is no return line specific SB. It is in the installation manual. Ev en though there is not an SB you should be keeping up on manual changes for your engine health and your personal safety. Your right that many of the o lder engines were put in homebuilt's and many didn't have them under cowl =2C but of course some did. It didn't seem to be a big issue many years ago (but we learned)=2C but todays planes=2C the way we fly and where we fly h as changed=2C fuels are changing and finally our knowledge is catching up. You brought up owners doing the work and that's perfectly ok=2C but some do it wrong for a number of reasons=2C but all should take a Rotax class and do it right. > Rotax has been manufacturing the 912 since late 1989 and it has had 4K ch anges since then. Some very small or minor and some very significant change s. > > > *Note* > If I ever sound like I'm being disrespectful in some way to anyone I neve r ever mean it that way=2C but in emails it is easy to get the tone of the message wrong. I enjoy helping others with problems and working with people and sometimes throw a little philosophy in along the way. I usually get at least 2 calls a day from out of state with 912 issues and people bring me their 912 engined plane's to work on from 5 or 6 different states. > > *** Bottom line in all this dicusion thread is a return line is a good id ea and can be found in the Installation manual. > > -------- > Roger Lee > Tucson=2C Az. > Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated > Rotax Service Center > 520-574-1080 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=237323#237323 > > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > _________________________________________________________________ Quick access to your favorite MSN content and Windows Live with Internet Ex plorer 8. http://ie8.msn.com/microsoft/internet-explorer-8/en-us/ie8.aspx?ocid=B037 MSN55C0701A


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    Time: 09:19:27 AM PST US
    Subject: Has anyone raised setpoint of Ducati regulator on a
    91X?
    From: rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us
    Has anyone raised the Ducati regulator set point from factory setting of ~ 13.7 to 13.8 volts? Odyssey battery would be happier at 14.7 volts. Please share your experience and details if you don't mind. Idea was presented to install a diode in series with "C" sense. Thx. Ron Parigoris


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    Time: 12:15:56 PM PST US
    From: "Hugh" <hgmckay@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Otiker clamps and crimping tool (was Re: Vapor
    Lock and E-10 Roger: I fly an Allegro 2000 ELSA with a 912UL engine, and I use normal screw/gear type clamps on my fuel lines without having any problems. The lines are fire sleeved. Each clamp screw head is color marked after tightening so to indicate if any loosening of the screw has occurred. These are checked prior to each flight. I have been flying this plane for about 2 years and I have not had a screw clamp loosen. In your opinion, what justifies the use of the Otiker type clamps (two clamp points per clamp) over the type I am using? Also getting access to the numerous Otiker double clamp points on my plane with the pliers would be very difficult, if not impossible at some points, on the small 912 engine that is congested with coolant lines, fuel lines, wires, and other devices on the engine. Hugh McKay Allegro 2000 Rotax 912UL -----Original Message----- From: owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Lee Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 1:57 AM Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Otiker clamps and crimping tool (was Re: Vapor Lock and E-10 Here is just one link to get Otiker clamps and pliers. I usually just buy the kit with the pliers and an assortment of single ear band clamps. Then when I need replacement clamps I order them separately. There are other websites that have Otiker clamps and pliers. http://chadstoolbox.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=521 -------- Roger Lee Tucson, Az. Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated Rotax Service Center 520-574-1080 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=237353#237353 Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 06:09:00


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    Time: 04:18:28 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Otiker clamps and crimping tool (was Re: Vapor Lock
    and E-10
    From: "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1@yahoo.com>
    Hi Hugh, I don't use a double eared Otiker clamps. I only use the single ear clamp, much easier to handle especially in tight areas. I'll have to find and get back to you on the publication where they want band clamps and not screw clamps on fuel lines and fire sleeve. I keep my resource books at the hanger. This is also taught in newer Rotax classes. -------- Roger Lee Tucson, Az. Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated Rotax Service Center 520-574-1080 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=237453#237453




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