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1. 04:03 AM - Re: Wiring 912 ULS oil pressure sensor (Mike Hoffman)
2. 07:50 AM - 914 UL 5 Year Rubber Replacement (UK LAA Specific) (Barry Moorhouse)
3. 01:18 PM - Re: 914 UL 5 Year Rubber Replacement (UK LAA Specific) (Mike Parkin)
4. 01:33 PM - Re: 914 UL 5 Year Rubber Replacement (UK LAA Specific) (Craig Payne)
5. 01:51 PM - Re: 914 UL 5 Year Rubber Replacement (UK LAA Specific) (Mike Parkin)
6. 05:54 PM - Re: 914 UL 5 Year Rubber Replacement (UK LAA Specific) (Roger Lee)
7. 11:54 PM - Re: 914 UL 5 Year Rubber Replacement (UK LAA Specific) (K Dilks)
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| Subject: | Re: Wiring 912 ULS oil pressure sensor |
Thanks Ira, I ordered a new sender for now. Ill change it out later when I find
a gage that works out. I didn't realize the old gage was a problem.
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| Subject: | 914 UL 5 Year Rubber Replacement (UK LAA Specific) |
My ROTAX 914 UL(installed in a Europa Tri-gear XS) is due (well actually o
verdue) for the mandatory 5 year replacement of rubber hoses, carburettor r
ubber parts etc. and I have a jaw dropping kit price from the UK Rotax dist
ributor of =A3661.25 for the parts.=0A=0AThis seems ludicrously expensive.
Some of the parts maybe Rotax specific (e.g. the carb mounting rubbers ?) b
ut many of them are "off the shelf" from other suppliers - e,g the Bing car
burettor diaphragms, standard 12mm vacuum oil hose etc. and a rough total c
ost for buying these would be less than half the "official" Rotax spares.
=0A=0ANow as far as the LAA are concerned is it OK to use these totally com
patible and standard parts or would they be regarded as "modifications" as
they are not "true" Rotax spares. =0A=0ABarry Moorhouse=0A
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| Subject: | 914 UL 5 Year Rubber Replacement (UK LAA Specific) |
No doubt someone will put me right. But I was under the impression that
there are no time-lifed components on a permit aircraft, everything is
on
condition and nothing is mandatory. While I would be the first to
change
something if it is warranted but I also subscribe to the =91if it
ain=92t broke
don=92t fix it=92 school.
Regards,
Mike
From: owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry
Moorhouse
Sent: 29 April 2009 15:50
Subject: RotaxEngines-List: 914 UL 5 Year Rubber Replacement (UK LAA
Specific)
My ROTAX 914 UL(installed in a Europa Tri-gear XS) is due (well
actually
overdue) for the mandatory 5 year replacement of rubber hoses,
carburettor
rubber parts etc. and I have a jaw dropping kit price from the UK Rotax
distributor of =A3661.25 for the parts.
This seems ludicrously expensive. Some of the parts maybe Rotax specific
(e.g. the carb mounting rubbers ?) but many of them are "off the shelf"
from
other suppliers - e,g the Bing carburettor diaphragms, standard 12mm
vacuum
oil hose etc. and a rough total cost for buying these would be less than
half the "official" Rotax spares.
Now as far as the LAA are concerned is it OK to use these totally
compatible
and standard parts or would they be regarded as "modifications" as they
are
not "true" Rotax spares.
Barry Moorhouse
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18:02:00
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| Subject: | 914 UL 5 Year Rubber Replacement (UK LAA Specific) |
Well, the 912 has a TBO of 10 calendar years even if it never runs. I
know
because I have a 10+ year old 912ULS with 6 hours of run time on it.
-- Craig
From: owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Parkin
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 2:15 PM
Subject: RE: RotaxEngines-List: 914 UL 5 Year Rubber Replacement (UK LAA
Specific)
No doubt someone will put me right. But I was under the impression that
there are no time-lifed components on a permit aircraft, everything is
on
condition and nothing is mandatory. While I would be the first to
change
something if it is warranted but I also subscribe to the =91if it
ain=92t broke
don=92t fix it=92 school.
Regards,
Mike
From: owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry
Moorhouse
Sent: 29 April 2009 15:50
Subject: RotaxEngines-List: 914 UL 5 Year Rubber Replacement (UK LAA
Specific)
My ROTAX 914 UL(installed in a Europa Tri-gear XS) is due (well
actually
overdue) for the mandatory 5 year replacement of rubber hoses,
carburettor
rubber parts etc. and I have a jaw dropping kit price from the UK Rotax
distributor of =A3661.25 for the parts.
This seems ludicrously expensive. Some of the parts maybe Rotax specific
(e.g. the carb mounting rubbers ?) but many of them are "off the shelf"
from
other suppliers - e,g the Bing carburettor diaphragms, standard 12mm
vacuum
oil hose etc. and a rough total cost for buying these would be less than
half the "official" Rotax spares.
Now as far as the LAA are concerned is it OK to use these totally
compatible
and standard parts or would they be regarded as "modifications" as they
are
not "true" Rotax spares.
Barry Moorhouse
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RotaxEngines-List
http://forums.matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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04/28/09 18:02:00
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| Subject: | 914 UL 5 Year Rubber Replacement (UK LAA Specific) |
Craig,
I think that only applies to certified installations ' not
kit/experimental.
Regards,
Mike
From: owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Craig
Payne
Sent: 29 April 2009 21:23
Subject: RE: RotaxEngines-List: 914 UL 5 Year Rubber Replacement (UK LAA
Specific)
Well, the 912 has a TBO of 10 calendar years even if it never runs. I
know
because I have a 10+ year old 912ULS with 6 hours of run time on it.
-- Craig
From: owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Parkin
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 2:15 PM
Subject: RE: RotaxEngines-List: 914 UL 5 Year Rubber Replacement (UK LAA
Specific)
No doubt someone will put me right. But I was under the impression that
there are no time-lifed components on a permit aircraft, everything is
on
condition and nothing is mandatory. While I would be the first to
change
something if it is warranted but I also subscribe to the =91if it
ain=92t broke
don=92t fix it=92 school.
Regards,
Mike
From: owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry
Moorhouse
Sent: 29 April 2009 15:50
Subject: RotaxEngines-List: 914 UL 5 Year Rubber Replacement (UK LAA
Specific)
My ROTAX 914 UL(installed in a Europa Tri-gear XS) is due (well
actually
overdue) for the mandatory 5 year replacement of rubber hoses,
carburettor
rubber parts etc. and I have a jaw dropping kit price from the UK Rotax
distributor of =A3661.25 for the parts.
This seems ludicrously expensive. Some of the parts maybe Rotax specific
(e.g. the carb mounting rubbers ?) but many of them are "off the shelf"
from
other suppliers - e,g the Bing carburettor diaphragms, standard 12mm
vacuum
oil hose etc. and a rough total cost for buying these would be less than
half the "official" Rotax spares.
Now as far as the LAA are concerned is it OK to use these totally
compatible
and standard parts or would they be regarded as "modifications" as they
are
not "true" Rotax spares.
Barry Moorhouse
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RotaxEngines-List
http://forums.matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
04/28/09 18:02:00
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RotaxEngines-List
http://forums.matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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04/29/09
06:37:00
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| Subject: | Re: 914 UL 5 Year Rubber Replacement (UK LAA Specific) |
Hi Guys,
Rotax does have a 5 year full rubber replacement on the 912's and 914's. If you
are experimental then do what ever you want to do, but that could lead you into
trouble one day. It's not like a car that you can pull over to the curb. If
you are experimental and have insurance and you have a failure from any rubber
part that causes an accident or contributed to an accident that could give and
in some case has given them grounds to deny. I have seen enough investigations
to know insurance companies will look to see if you have followed the Rotax
manual and they will have the investigator document any lack of judgment. Heaven
forbid anything you did or didn't do caused the accident. Just because you
don't want to do it doesn't mean you shouldn't.
If you are SLSA you have to do it.
--------
Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated
Rotax Service Center
520-574-1080
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| Subject: | Re: 914 UL 5 Year Rubber Replacement (UK LAA Specific) |
If you do go the on condition route, have a good look at the carb rubber sockets
and carb diaphrams. The external parts are easy to visually check. Check the
coolant tank to see if there is a black sludge , this is dissolved rubber caused
by some coolants........
Kev
--------
Austria .............
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