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1. 05:26 AM - Re: REMOS (lucien)
2. 10:10 AM - Re: Re: 503 oil injection retrofit (Blumax008@aol.com)
3. 12:07 PM - Re: Octane booster (Noel Loveys)
4. 01:04 PM - Re: Octane booster (Jim_and_Lucy Chuk)
5. 01:32 PM - Re: Octane booster (Roger Lee)
6. 01:35 PM - Re: 503 oil injection retrofit (Tom Jones)
7. 01:52 PM - Re: Octane booster (E. D. Eliot)
8. 08:50 PM - Re: Octane booster (Jim_and_Lucy Chuk)
9. 10:02 PM - Re: Re: Octane booster (Les Goldner)
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Roger Lee wrote:
> Looks like Remos might be going under. They filed bankruptcy in Germany Nov,
30th. They may or may not be able to pull out of this.
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> https://www.insolvenzbekanntmachungen.de/
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Er, I'm kind of wondering how any of the SLSA manufacturers are staying in business..
;).
Maybe they're affordable in Europe? Sorry, can't resist the snide comment ;)
LS
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Titan II SS
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| Subject: | Re: 503 oil injection retrofit |
In a message dated 12/8/2009 4:58:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
capedavis@yahoo.com writes:
Tom, I flew a 503 490hrs on premix using pensoil for air cooled engines
had it rebuilt before I sold it . The rebuilder said almost no carbon !
Well said Chris but I think the "other side" is well entrenched in their
thinking too. We'd have as hard a time changing their minds as they would
have changing ours. So if they're happy, so be it.
That being said...I've been flying 2 cycle ultralights since 1978, have
multiple thousands of hours in them & my favorite principle is K.I.S.S...and
I think we all know what that means. My next best saying is...If it ain't
broke, don't fix it.
The less crap you have hanging on a motor, the less crap you have to deal
with...especially at tear down & inspection. Some people have so much
unnecessary crap on their planes it would take hours if not days getting it all
off just to get to a problem.
Now think of an ultralight pilot broke down in the bush...100 degrees, 95%
humidity, mosquitos, no-see-ums, sweat pouring into your eyes...and a motor
loaded with crap that you have to remove (and replace) to get to your
problem...or...that may be the cause of your problem.
My best running trike is a DFS with a simple 503, pull start & manual
choke with an E.I.S.
Get my drift?
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Where can we get these products?
Noel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Lee
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 6:45 PM
Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Octane booster
Just some info I thought I would pass along.
For those who use these products here are the top two out of 11 that actually do
some of what they claim. Tested by an independent lab.
Both the Nulon Pro Strength and the NF Racing Formula rated the best octane boosters
in our test. And considering that less NF was needed than Nulon, it evens
out a little with a slightly higher cost. Still, both proved extremely effective
at increasing octane, even outranking Toluene, which needs much higher levels
of concentration.
1st NF Octane Booster Racing Formula 250 ml treats 80 litres RRP: $29.95
Octane Improvement: 99.6 (+2.8 RON)
An Australian-made product from Perth, the NF Octane Booster Racing Formula was
the smallest bottle in the field, but looking at the mixing ratio, also the strongest
relying on an incredibly small dose a mere 3 percent! Claiming to increase
octane as much as 6.0 RON , NF took the gold medal in a surprising tie.
If it were a split decision based on concentration though, it would be the clear
winner.
1st Nulon Pro Strength Octane Booster 500 ml treats 60 litres RRP: $20.95
Octane Improvement: 99.6 (+2.8 RON)
The Australian-made Nulon Pro Strength Octane Booster is the top of the range Nulon
fuel product, claiming to boost octane up to seven number. The Pro Strength
gained a joint gold-medal equalling NFs 2.8RON increase.
To conduct these tests we contracted independent laboratory Intertek Testing Services,
who would test our products on a knock engine. We also had to find a base
fuel to add our boosters to so we went to the closest public petrol station,
which happened to be Shell.
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Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated
Rotax Repair Center
520-574-1080
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Here is my limited experience with octane boosters. A real small gas stati
on near me here in Mn sells in one pump what he says is 98 octane=2C and ha
s been doing it for years. Most of the local stockcar racers get their fue
l from him. In Mn you can get 91 octane with no alcohol for use in collect
or cars=2C snowmobiles=2C boat engines and other small engines. (says so r
ight on the pump) Anyway=2C this guy gets the 91 octane and then mixes Jus
tice Brothers octane booster in it to kick up the octane to 98. He gets th
e booster in 15 or 20 gallon barrels. I used a little of the fuel with n
o problem in my Jabiru=2C and just for the fun of it=2C and because I was w
ondering about any effect on my fiberglass tanks in my Avid=2C I dropped a
few small slivers of fiberglass in a tall skinny plastic bottle I've used i
n the past to check for alcohol and filled it with the boosted fuel. The n
ext day=2C the fuel was leaking out of the bottom of the plastic bottle and
the plastic was softening and getting like a gummy consistancy. The fiber
glass still looked okey. I had used that bottle lots of times in the past
with regular 91 octane and it never started to melt till the boosted fuel w
as put in it. I drained my planes tanks and burned it up in the tractor an
d never used that stuff again. I still don't know if the fiberglass would
have been affected if it had sat in that stuff longer or not. I would be c
arefull with the boosters. Jim Chuk
> From: noelloveys@yahoo.ca
> To: rotaxengines-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RotaxEngines-List: Octane booster
> Date: Wed=2C 9 Dec 2009 16:34:59 -0330
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> Where can we get these products?
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> Noel
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rotaxeng
ines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Lee
> Sent: Monday=2C December 07=2C 2009 6:45 PM
> To: rotaxengines-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Octane booster
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> Just some info I thought I would pass along.
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> For those who use these products here are the top two out of 11 that actu
ally do some of what they claim. Tested by an independent lab.
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> Both the Nulon Pro Strength and the NF Racing Formula rated the best octa
ne boosters in our test. And considering that less NF was needed than Nulon
=2C it evens out a little with a slightly higher cost. Still=2C both proved
extremely effective at increasing octane=2C even outranking Toluene=2C whi
ch needs much higher levels of concentration.
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> 1st NF Octane Booster Racing Formula =93 250 ml treats 80 litres RR
P: $29.95
> Octane Improvement: 99.6 (+2.8 RON)
> An Australian-made product from Perth=2C the NF Octane Booster Racing For
mula was the smallest bottle in the field=2C but looking at the mixing rati
o=2C also the strongest relying on an incredibly small dose =93 a mer
e 3 percent! Claiming to increase octane as much as 6.0 RON =2C NF took the
gold medal in a surprising tie. If it were a split decision based on conce
ntration though=2C it would be the clear winner.
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> 1st Nulon Pro Strength Octane Booster =93 500 ml treats 60 litres R
RP: $20.95
> Octane Improvement: 99.6 (+2.8 RON)
> The Australian-made Nulon Pro Strength Octane Booster is the top of the r
ange Nulon fuel product=2C claiming to boost octane =9Cup to seven nu
mber=9D. The Pro Strength gained a joint gold-medal equalling NF
=99s 2.8RON increase.
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> To conduct these tests we contracted independent laboratory Intertek Test
ing Services=2C who would test our products on a =9Cknock engine.
=9D We also had to find a base fuel to add our boosters to so we went to
the closest public petrol station=2C which happened to be Shell.
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> Tucson=2C Az.
> Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated
> Rotax Repair Center
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| Subject: | Re: Octane booster |
Hi Noel,
I personally don't use and I don't really think the majority of the people need
boosters. I was just doing some research and came across some good research and
thought I would post it since many people have talked about this subject over
the years. If your fuel system can handle it then it would be fine, but as
Jim suggest make sure first.
To answer your question I do not know where you can get these two products. I would
check online.
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Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated
Rotax Repair Center
520-574-1080
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| Subject: | Re: 503 oil injection retrofit |
Anyone premixing with an engine that came with oil injection want to trade me their
manifolds for a pair without the injection ports? I'll pay shipping plus
$20.
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Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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| Subject: | Re: Octane booster |
Has anyone out there used octane boosters in their 912s? I'm wondering if
they do anything nasty to our engines or fuel systems, or if you the timing
on the 912 would need to change?
Les
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Lee
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 1:31 PM
Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Octane booster
Hi Noel,
I personally don't use and I don't really think the majority of the people
need boosters. I was just doing some research and came across some good
research and thought I would post it since many people have talked about
this subject over the years. If your fuel system can handle it then it would
be fine, but as Jim suggest make sure first.
To answer your question I do not know where you can get these two products.
I would check online.
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Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated
Rotax Repair Center
520-574-1080
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=276880#276880
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