---------------------------------------------------------- RotaxEngines-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 01/31/10: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:33 AM - Videos -winter -ethanol gas talk (dave) 2. 11:04 AM - HOSE FOR ROTAX 912 (Goodone) 3. 11:52 AM - Re: HOSE FOR ROTAX 912 (Joe Ronco) 4. 12:46 PM - Re: HOSE FOR ROTAX 912 (Les Goldner) 5. 01:51 PM - Re: HOSE FOR ROTAX 912 (Joe Ronco) 6. 02:02 PM - Re: Videos -winter -ethanol gas talk (rampil) 7. 04:35 PM - Re: HOSE FOR ROTAX 912 (Richard Girard) 8. 09:22 PM - Re: Re: Videos -winter -ethanol gas talk (Noel Loveys) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:33:19 AM PST US Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Videos -winter -ethanol gas talk From: "dave" Videos -winter -ethanol gas talk winter flying Rotax engine and starting up at -20c while the rest of you sit in your chairs :) Fueling up a plane with ethanol gas then flying for 2 hours at -18C did the tanks melt ? did we get phasse separation? did the lines freeze? Did we have to get out survival kits ? http://www.youtube.com/user/kitfoxflyer -------- Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada http://www.cfisher.com/ Awesome *New Forum * http://rotaxaircraft.com/forum/ Realtime Kitfox movies to separate the internet chatter from the truth http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=kitfoxflyer Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=284140#284140 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 11:04:04 AM PST US Subject: RotaxEngines-List: HOSE FOR ROTAX 912 From: "Goodone" With spring somewhere in the future (I hope) I am thinking of replacing the hoses on my Rotax 912. The oil hose is almost 8 years old and the fuel hose about 4 years old. I burn auto gas containing alcohol and wanted some advice from folks on what fuel and oil hose to use. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=284209#284209 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:52:59 AM PST US From: "Joe Ronco" Subject: RE: RotaxEngines-List: HOSE FOR ROTAX 912 You should consider SAE30R7 for low pressure especially for gasohol. If the fuel is pressurized then SAE30R9 is recommended. These can also be used for oil I believe. See attached Goodyear cut sheets. Hope this helps. Joe R -----Original Message----- From: owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Goodone Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 12:03 PM Subject: RotaxEngines-List: HOSE FOR ROTAX 912 With spring somewhere in the future (I hope) I am thinking of replacing the hoses on my Rotax 912. The oil hose is almost 8 years old and the fuel hose about 4 years old. I burn auto gas containing alcohol and wanted some advice from folks on what fuel and oil hose to use. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=284209#284209 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:46:58 PM PST US From: "Les Goldner" Subject: RE: RotaxEngines-List: HOSE FOR ROTAX 912 JOE, These Goodyear hoses are all English sizes and are not metric. Do you see any problems trying to fit them to a Rotax engine?? Les -----Original Message----- From: owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Joe Ronco Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 11:23 AM Subject: RE: RotaxEngines-List: HOSE FOR ROTAX 912 You should consider SAE30R7 for low pressure especially for gasohol. If the fuel is pressurized then SAE30R9 is recommended. These can also be used for oil I believe. See attached Goodyear cut sheets. Hope this helps. Joe R -----Original Message----- From: owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Goodone Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 12:03 PM Subject: RotaxEngines-List: HOSE FOR ROTAX 912 --> With spring somewhere in the future (I hope) I am thinking of replacing the hoses on my Rotax 912. The oil hose is almost 8 years old and the fuel hose about 4 years old. I burn auto gas containing alcohol and wanted some advice from folks on what fuel and oil hose to use. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=284209#284209 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:51:52 PM PST US From: "Joe Ronco" Subject: RE: RotaxEngines-List: HOSE FOR ROTAX 912 LES: I don't know how they would fit as I have not used this hose. I just did some research on material compatibility with gasohol and found the SAE/Goodyear products. I guess it would depend if you are pushing the hose over a barb and using a clamp or have a threaded hose end fitting. The later may be available with an English dimension to fit onto the hose and a metric thread to connect to the engine. Sorry I can't be of more help with this. Joe R PS: Also be careful what material you use for fittings with gasohol. See the following link for some information on material compatibility with gasohol (Pages 37 & 38) http://tinyurl.com/yz3d9fm -----Original Message----- From: owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Les Goldner Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 1:43 PM Subject: RE: RotaxEngines-List: HOSE FOR ROTAX 912 JOE, These Goodyear hoses are all English sizes and are not metric. Do you see any problems trying to fit them to a Rotax engine?? Les -----Original Message----- From: owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Joe Ronco Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 11:23 AM Subject: RE: RotaxEngines-List: HOSE FOR ROTAX 912 You should consider SAE30R7 for low pressure especially for gasohol. If the fuel is pressurized then SAE30R9 is recommended. These can also be used for oil I believe. See attached Goodyear cut sheets. Hope this helps. Joe R -----Original Message----- From: owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Goodone Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 12:03 PM Subject: RotaxEngines-List: HOSE FOR ROTAX 912 --> With spring somewhere in the future (I hope) I am thinking of replacing the hoses on my Rotax 912. The oil hose is almost 8 years old and the fuel hose about 4 years old. I burn auto gas containing alcohol and wanted some advice from folks on what fuel and oil hose to use. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=284209#284209 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:02:45 PM PST US Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Videos -winter -ethanol gas talk From: "rampil" Hi Dave, I agree with you. Ethanol is simply not an issue for most new planes. The problems with Cessna, Piper, Lycoming, and Continental is they don't want to remove the antique cork gaskets and sloshing materials in the original type certificates. That cost money! Ira -------- Ira N224XS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=284237#284237 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:35:00 PM PST US Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: HOSE FOR ROTAX 912 From: Richard Girard Why don't you go to a Chevy dealer and see what they're using for fuel line in the Flex fuel cars? If it will stand up to E 85 in the engine compartment of a car it should work fine in a plane. As for metric conversion there's most likely something close enough to work just fine even though it's measured in inches. Rick Girard On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Joe Ronco wrote: > > LES: I don't know how they would fit as I have not used this hose. I just > did some research on material compatibility with gasohol and found the > SAE/Goodyear products. I guess it would depend if you are pushing the hose > over a barb and using a clamp or have a threaded hose end fitting. The > later > may be available with an English dimension to fit onto the hose and a > metric > thread to connect to the engine. > > Sorry I can't be of more help with this. > > Joe R > > PS: Also be careful what material you use for fittings with gasohol. See > the > following link for some information on material compatibility with gasohol > (Pages 37 & 38) > > http://tinyurl.com/yz3d9fm > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Les > Goldner > Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 1:43 PM > To: rotaxengines-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RotaxEngines-List: HOSE FOR ROTAX 912 > > > > JOE, > These Goodyear hoses are all English sizes and are not metric. Do you see > any problems trying to fit them to a Rotax engine?? > Les > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Joe > Ronco > Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 11:23 AM > To: rotaxengines-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RotaxEngines-List: HOSE FOR ROTAX 912 > > You should consider SAE30R7 for low pressure especially for gasohol. If the > fuel is pressurized then SAE30R9 is recommended. These can also be used for > oil I believe. See attached Goodyear cut sheets. > > Hope this helps. > > Joe R > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Goodone > Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 12:03 PM > To: rotaxengines-list@matronics.com > Subject: RotaxEngines-List: HOSE FOR ROTAX 912 > > --> > > With spring somewhere in the future (I hope) I am thinking of replacing the > hoses on my Rotax 912. The oil hose is almost 8 years old and the fuel hose > about 4 years old. I burn auto gas containing alcohol and wanted some > advice from folks on what fuel and oil hose to use. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=284209#284209 > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:22:24 PM PST US From: "Noel Loveys" Subject: RE: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Videos -winter -ethanol gas talk Not a problem... Flying an certified plane on ethanol is not allowed in this country with few exceptions all of which have to do with testing. Noel -----Original Message----- From: owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rampil Sent: January 31, 2010 6:31 PM Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Videos -winter -ethanol gas talk Hi Dave, I agree with you. Ethanol is simply not an issue for most new planes. The problems with Cessna, Piper, Lycoming, and Continental is they don't want to remove the antique cork gaskets and sloshing materials in the original type certificates. That cost money! 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