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2. 05:49 AM - Speaking of coolant hoses... (lucien)
3. 05:53 AM - Re: HOSE FOR ROTAX 912 (Richard Girard)
4. 06:46 AM - Re: Speaking of coolant hoses... (Richard Girard)
5. 06:50 AM - Re: Speaking of coolant hoses... (Paul Wilson)
6. 07:11 AM - Re: Speaking of coolant hoses... (lucien)
7. 07:48 AM - Re: Re: Speaking of coolant hoses... (Chris Blackmore)
8. 08:00 AM - Re: Speaking of coolant hoses... (lucien)
9. 08:53 AM - Re: Re: Speaking of coolant hoses... (Chris Blackmore)
10. 09:14 AM - Re: Re: Speaking of coolant hoses... (Richard Girard)
11. 10:04 AM - Re: Muffler FS (gyroav8r)
12. 12:02 PM - Re: HOSE FOR ROTAX 912 (rampil)
13. 12:06 PM - Re: Speaking of coolant hoses... (rampil)
14. 01:11 PM - Beading versus Flaring (Richard Girard)
15. 01:20 PM - Re: Speaking of coolant hoses... (Craig Payne)
16. 01:33 PM - Re: Beading versus Flaring (Craig Payne)
17. 01:54 PM - Re: Beading versus Flaring (lucien)
18. 05:22 PM - Re: Re: Muffler FS (Ellery Batchelder Jr)
19. 07:09 PM - Re: Re: Speaking of coolant hoses... (Noel Loveys)
20. 11:03 PM - Official RotaxEngines-List FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) (Matt Dralle)
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| Subject: | Re: HOSE FOR ROTAX 912 |
I am starting the Rotax 912 course this morning at S Miss Light aircraft.
(refresher course- two stroke, last week) I too am in the process of
replacing all the water hoses as they are even older than yours. The first ones
removed were in pretty good shape. I ended up buying a 2 meter length of 17mm
hose from Lockwood ( EXPENSIVE !) . I did not want to stretch available
5/8 heater hose over the nipples although Ronnie,our instructor,says you can
do it. I have a thing about the proper parts. The fuel hoses I replaced
were the best Gates fuel injection hoses I could find,the oil hoses came from
CPS. This water hose replacement is going to be a real pain! Lots of stuff
to remove,corrosion to clean,etc but it has to be done.
Dick
Maddux
912 UL
Milton,Fl
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| Subject: | Speaking of coolant hoses... |
Hi all,
While we're on the subject of coolant hoses....
Does anyone know of a source for the aluminum pipes specified by Rotax for extending/splicing
coolant hoses? This is in the installation manual in section 12.6
"Requirements on the cooling system" - they mention aluminum pipes with bulges
on the end.
I'm utterly unable to locate anything like this or even an equivalent and I'm getting
tired of the blank faces staring back at me when I ask about these locally
or anywhere for that matter.
Where on earth can one locate pipes suitable for use for splicing coolant hoses?
I'm starting to get desperate because this really needs to be done on my plane
ASAP and I need these to make proper fitting hoses...
Even equivalents without the bulges would be fine - just need something that meets
the temp/pressure/corrosion requirements for coolant...
Thanks,
LS
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Titan II SS
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| Subject: | Re: HOSE FOR ROTAX 912 |
Dick, I used silicone radiator hose from Sport Hoses in the UK when I
replumbed my 582.
http://www.sporthoses.com/parts/
<http://www.sporthoses.com/parts/>To save weight and money, I only used
short lengths of hose and beaded tubes between.
Rick Girard
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 6:47 AM, <Catz631@aol.com> wrote:
> I am starting the Rotax 912 course this morning at S Miss Light aircraft.
> (refresher course- two stroke, last week) I too am in the process of
> replacing all the water hoses as they are even older than yours. The first
> ones removed were in pretty good shape. I ended up buying a 2 meter length
> of 17mm hose from Lockwood ( EXPENSIVE !) . I did not want to stretch
> available 5/8 heater hose over the nipples although Ronnie,our
> instructor,says you can do it. I have a thing about the proper parts. The
> fuel hoses I replaced were the best Gates fuel injection hoses I could
> find,the oil hoses came from CPS. This water hose replacement is going to be
> a real pain! Lots of stuff to remove,corrosion to clean,etc but it has to be
> done.
> Dick
> Maddux
> 912 UL
>
> Milton,Fl
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Speaking of coolant hoses... |
Lucien, Send me the specs for what you need and I'll see if I can round up
the material and make them. Here's a photo of mine on my 582.
Rick Girard
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 7:49 AM, lucien <lstavenhagen@hotmail.com> wrote:
> lstavenhagen@hotmail.com>
>
> Hi all,
> While we're on the subject of coolant hoses....
>
> Does anyone know of a source for the aluminum pipes specified by Rotax for
> extending/splicing coolant hoses? This is in the installation manual in
> section 12.6 "Requirements on the cooling system" - they mention aluminum
> pipes with bulges on the end.
>
> I'm utterly unable to locate anything like this or even an equivalent and
> I'm getting tired of the blank faces staring back at me when I ask about
> these locally or anywhere for that matter.
>
> Where on earth can one locate pipes suitable for use for splicing coolant
> hoses? I'm starting to get desperate because this really needs to be done on
> my plane ASAP and I need these to make proper fitting hoses...
> Even equivalents without the bulges would be fine - just need something
> that meets the temp/pressure/corrosion requirements for coolant...
>
> Thanks,
> LS
>
> --------
> LS
> Titan II SS
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=284323#284323
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Speaking of coolant hoses... |
Hi, LS
What we do: Buy the appropriate piece of Al tubing from Aircraft Spruce then
take it to the radiator shop and have the bead it on both ends. If the
radiator shop does not have a beader call around to various auto & machine
shops.
PW
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 5:49 AM, lucien <lstavenhagen@hotmail.com> wrote:
> lstavenhagen@hotmail.com>
>
> Hi all,
> While we're on the subject of coolant hoses....
>
> Does anyone know of a source for the aluminum pipes specified by Rotax for
> extending/splicing coolant hoses? This is in the installation manual in
> section 12.6 "Requirements on the cooling system" - they mention aluminum
> pipes with bulges on the end.
>
> I'm utterly unable to locate anything like this or even an equivalent and
> I'm getting tired of the blank faces staring back at me when I ask about
> these locally or anywhere for that matter.
>
> Where on earth can one locate pipes suitable for use for splicing coolant
> hoses? I'm starting to get desperate because this really needs to be done on
> my plane ASAP and I need these to make proper fitting hoses...
> Even equivalents without the bulges would be fine - just need something
> that meets the temp/pressure/corrosion requirements for coolant...
>
> Thanks,
> LS
>
> --------
> LS
> Titan II SS
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=284323#284323
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Speaking of coolant hoses... |
ah hah!... thanks gentlemen.... I think I've finally made the mental leap here...
What is the appropriate grade tubing to use? Rick, in your picture I see what I
think is 6061-0 printed on one of your tubes?
Let me see how long of a length I need for the top tube, Ill try to measure what
I need this week.
I'll look for a radiator shop, but it's doubtful (Santa Fe is kind of like living
on Mars as far as things like this go). Maybe down in Albuquerque....
Thanks,
LS
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| Subject: | Re: Speaking of coolant hoses... |
A muffler shop might even have that kind of expander ( worth a call!) Way
up
here in the bush I have seen people (me) weld/tack a little piece of
strapping on the pipe then push the hose over and put the clamp on the ot
her
side of it, works the same with the same results
Chris
-------Original Message-------
From: lucien
Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Speaking of coolant hoses...
om>
ah hah!... thanks gentlemen.... I think I've finally made the mental leap
here...
What is the appropriate grade tubing to use? Rick, in your picture I see
what I think is 6061-0 printed on one of your tubes?
Let me see how long of a length I need for the top tube, Ill try to measu
re
what I need this week.
I'll look for a radiator shop, but it's doubtful (Santa Fe is kind of lik
e
living on Mars as far as things like this go). Maybe down in Albuquerque.
=2E..
Thanks,
LS
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LS
Titan II SS
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| Subject: | Re: Speaking of coolant hoses... |
blackmore(at)platinum.ca wrote:
> A muffler shop might even have that kind of expander ( worth a call!) Way up
here in the bush I have seen people (me) weld/tack a little piece of strapping
on the pipe then push the hose over and put the clamp on the other side of it,
works the same with the same results
> Chris
>
> [i]----
Ok, will call around.
I've thought about just flaring the ends myself if I could find an appropriate
tool. Smoothing it off and then pushing the hose over that.
What thickness of tubing you guys think would be sufficient? I guess 6061 on the
grade is probably good enough, just wondering about the thickness?
If I come up snake eyes, Rick, I'll just have you make a pair of em for me ;)
Thanks,
LS
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Titan II SS
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| Subject: | Re: Speaking of coolant hoses... |
Another thought.. Take a piece to the 6061 to the muffler shop and have t
hem
expand a little ring heat it up at home and shrink it onto the pipe!
-------Original Message-------
From: lucien
Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Speaking of coolant hoses...
om>
blackmore(at)platinum.ca wrote:
> A muffler shop might even have that kind of expander ( worth a call!) W
ay
up here in the bush I have seen people (me) weld/tack a little piece of
strapping on the pipe then push the hose over and put the clamp on the ot
her
side of it, works the same with the same results
> Chris
>
> [i]----
Ok, will call around.
I've thought about just flaring the ends myself if I could find an
appropriate tool. Smoothing it off and then pushing the hose over that.
What thickness of tubing you guys think would be sufficient? I guess 6061
on
the grade is probably good enough, just wondering about the thickness?
If I come up snake eyes, Rick, I'll just have you make a pair of em for m
e
)
Thanks,
LS
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Titan II SS
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| Subject: | Re: Speaking of coolant hoses... |
I checked the spruce tables for 3003-O. They say 1" X .035 wall has a
pressure rating of 305 psi with a safety factor of 2. I think the Rotax
coolant system at 17 psi isn't going to phase the tubing at all. I used 1" X
.065 6061-O because that was what was available at the Yard Store. I do the
beading with a Parker tube beader.
Rick Girard
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 9:11 AM, lucien <lstavenhagen@hotmail.com> wrote:
> lstavenhagen@hotmail.com>
>
> ah hah!... thanks gentlemen.... I think I've finally made the mental leap
> here...
>
> What is the appropriate grade tubing to use? Rick, in your picture I see
> what I think is 6061-0 printed on one of your tubes?
>
> Let me see how long of a length I need for the top tube, Ill try to measure
> what I need this week.
>
> I'll look for a radiator shop, but it's doubtful (Santa Fe is kind of like
> living on Mars as far as things like this go). Maybe down in Albuquerque....
>
> Thanks,
> LS
>
> --------
> LS
> Titan II SS
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=284353#284353
>
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Is your exhaust still available? Is it a standard Rotax stainless exhaust?
Thanks
Roy Davis
772 4861005
gyronautical@bellsouth.net
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| Subject: | Re: HOSE FOR ROTAX 912 |
The standard kit supplied hose was Gates SAE30R7 hose. The R9
is hose with better specs for pressure and generally high endurance in
an engine compartment. FWF I am using stainless braided R9 hose, actually back
to the tank selector valve, and further back, just uncovered R9. The stainless
braided hose is also covered with firesleeve.
The kit was supplied with 5/16" and 1/4" hose, not metric, at least not in my kit.
Diameter adjustment is via hose clamp!
For oil lines I have switched to Aeroquip blue socketless hose, it has
superior specs to the R9.
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| Subject: | Re: Speaking of coolant hoses... |
Beaders and flare tools are frequent components of most EAA chapter
shops I have seen. The tools are not exorbitant at Harbor Freight, etc.
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| Subject: | Beading versus Flaring |
Beading produces a smooth taper from the original tube diameter to the bead
diameter and back again. When you push the hose on it stretches smoothly and
evenly over the bead and returns to its size. The contact surface of the
bead is large and smooth. 'The maximum size of the bead is limited by either
the beading anvil or the maximum taper of the expansion screw of the tool
and can be seen and measured while it is being made.
Flaring leaves a hard edge that the hose is forced around immediately.
Single flares crack, double flares are better but the contact edge in the
hose is still narrow and capable of cutting the soft inner wall of the hose.
The maximum diameter of the flare is only limited by a good guess and how
much the tube alloy will stretch before cracking. The flaring tool,
generally, has serrated jaws that leave concentric stress risers all the way
around tube for about 1/2" from the flare.
Somebody send me the part number of Harbor Freight Tools beading tool.
Rick Girard
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| Subject: | Speaking of coolant hoses... |
How about these:
http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/group.asp?GroupID=COOLNIPPLE
-- Craig
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From: owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of lucien
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 5:49 AM
Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Speaking of coolant hoses...
--> <lstavenhagen@hotmail.com>
Hi all,
While we're on the subject of coolant hoses....
Does anyone know of a source for the aluminum pipes specified by Rotax for
extending/splicing coolant hoses? This is in the installation manual in
section 12.6 "Requirements on the cooling system" - they mention aluminum
pipes with bulges on the end.
I'm utterly unable to locate anything like this or even an equivalent and
I'm getting tired of the blank faces staring back at me when I ask about
these locally or anywhere for that matter.
Where on earth can one locate pipes suitable for use for splicing coolant
hoses? I'm starting to get desperate because this really needs to be done on
my plane ASAP and I need these to make proper fitting hoses...
Even equivalents without the bulges would be fine - just need something that
meets the temp/pressure/corrosion requirements for coolant...
Thanks,
LS
--------
LS
Titan II SS
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| Subject: | Beading versus Flaring |
Here is another beading tools:
http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productdetails.asp?RecID=6684
-- Craig
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[mailto:owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard
Girard
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 1:08 PM
Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Beading versus Flaring
Beading produces a smooth taper from the original tube diameter to the bead
diameter and back again. When you push the hose on it stretches smoothly and
evenly over the bead and returns to its size. The contact surface of the
bead is large and smooth. 'The maximum size of the bead is limited by either
the beading anvil or the maximum taper of the expansion screw of the tool
and can be seen and measured while it is being made.
Flaring leaves a hard edge that the hose is forced around immediately.
Single flares crack, double flares are better but the contact edge in the
hose is still narrow and capable of cutting the soft inner wall of the hose.
The maximum diameter of the flare is only limited by a good guess and how
much the tube alloy will stretch before cracking. The flaring tool,
generally, has serrated jaws that leave concentric stress risers all the way
around tube for about 1/2" from the flare.
Somebody send me the part number of Harbor Freight Tools beading tool.
Rick Girard
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| Subject: | Re: Beading versus Flaring |
[quote="rickofudall"]Beading produces a smooth taper from the original tube diameter
to the bead diameter and back again. When you push the hose on it stretches
smoothly and evenly over the bead and returns to its size. The contact surface
of the bead is large and smooth. 'The maximum size of the bead is limited
by either the beading anvil or the maximum taper of the expansion screwof the
tool and can be seen and measured while it is being made. Flaring leaves a hard
edge that the hose is forced around immediately. Single flares crack, double
flares are better but the contact edge in the hose is still narrow and capable
of cutting the soft inner wall of the hose. The maximum diameter of the flare
is only limited by a good guess and how much the tube alloy will stretch before
cracking. The flaring tool, generally, has serrated jaws that leave concentric
stress risers all the way around tube for about 1/2" from the flare.
Somebody send me the part number of Harbor Freight Tools beading tool.
Rick Girard
> [b]
Hi Rick,
Yep, I was thinking this exact same thing when I was considering the flaring idea....
I finally just decided to get the Parker tool and some tubing and just do it right
myself. I've never regretted buying good tools anyway even if I don't immediately
use them for more than one job........
There'll be a little trial and error to get the right lengths anyway depending
on what water hose I can get locally so I'll be better off in the end with my
own copy of the tool. I might have to make several tries so....
LS
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if You are looking for an exhaust system for a 912 Rotax a Friend of mine
has a new system that he is not going to use He decided to put a Jabaru
engine on his plane and has one for sale if you are interested send me
an email and I will give you his contact info
Ellery Batchelder Jr.
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Sent: Mon, Feb 1, 2010 1:04 pm
Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Muffler FS
h.net>
Is your exhaust still available? Is it a standard Rotax stainless exhaust
?
hanks
oy Davis
72 4861005
yronautical@bellsouth.net
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| Subject: | Re: Speaking of coolant hoses... |
Lucien a good FBO should have an expander... only takes a few seconds to put
a bulb in a tube.
Noel
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[mailto:owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of lucien
Sent: February 1, 2010 12:30 PM
Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Speaking of coolant hoses...
blackmore(at)platinum.ca wrote:
> A muffler shop might even have that kind of expander ( worth a call!) Way
up here in the bush I have seen people (me) weld/tack a little piece of
strapping on the pipe then push the hose over and put the clamp on the other
side of it, works the same with the same results
> Chris
>
> [i]----
Ok, will call around.
I've thought about just flaring the ends myself if I could find an
appropriate tool. Smoothing it off and then pushing the hose over that.
What thickness of tubing you guys think would be sufficient? I guess 6061 on
the grade is probably good enough, just wondering about the thickness?
If I come up snake eyes, Rick, I'll just have you make a pair of em for me
;)
Thanks,
LS
--------
LS
Titan II SS
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http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/RotaxEngines-List.FAQ.html
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
[ Note: This FAQ was designed to be displayed with a fixed width font such as
Courier. Proportional fonts will cause display formatting errors. ]
This FAQ can also be viewed in HTML online at the following address:
http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RotaxEngines-List.htm
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******* LIST POLICIES AND FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS *******
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PLEASE READ. This document contains RotaxEngines-List policies and information
for new and old subscribers. Understanding the RotaxEngines-List policies will
minimize problems for the Administrator, and will help keep the RotaxEngines-List
running smoothly for all of us.
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*** Quick Start Guide to List Features ***
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There are many features available on the Matronics Email Lists and each
one is described in detailed below. However, using the List Navigator
you can quickly access the complete set of features available for this
List. The List Navigator can be found at the following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RotaxEngines-List
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*** How to Subscribe and Unsubscribe ***
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Simply go to the Web Page shown below and enter your email address and
select the List(s) that you wish to subscribe or unsubscribed from. You
may also use the handy "Find" function to determine the exact syntax of
your email address as it is subscribed to the List. Please see the
complete instructions at the top of the Web Page for more information.
The Subscribe/Unsubscribe web page is:
http://www.matronics.com/subscribe
Note that you will receive TWO conformation emails regarding your subsciption
process. The first verifies that your subscription/unsubsciption request
was received, and the second confirms that the process has been completed.
You should receive the first email within a few minutes of your request.
The second conformation will arrive in less than 24 hours. You cannot post
until you receive the second conformation email message.
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*** How to Post a Message ***
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Send an email message to:
rotaxengines-list@matronics.com
Your message will be redistributed to everyone currently subscribed
to the List.
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*** SPAM Fighter - You Must be Subscribed to Post ***
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When a new post is received by the system, the From: line of the message
is checked and compared against the current subscription list. If the
email address is found, the message is passed on to the List Processor.
If the email address isn't found in the current list of subscribers, it
is dumped. This serves to very effectively thwart 99% of the SPAM that
gets posted to the Lists.
Remember, however, that the syntax of your email address is very important
with regard to the configuration of your email application such as Outlook
or Eudora. For example, the following two email addresses may be
functionally equivalent, but only one would pass the Matronics Email SPAM
test depending on which was syntax was subscribed to the given List:
smith@machine.domain.com
smith@domain.com
Either email address syntax is alright, just be sure that you configure
your email application to match *exactly* the address you've subscibed to
the List.
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*** Enclosure Support on the Lists ***
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Limited posting of enclosures such as pictures, documents, and spreadsheets
is supported on the Lists. There are a number of restrictions, and these
are detailed below. Please abide by the rules put forth regarding the
content of enclosures.
These are some of the features and limits of enclosures on the Matronics
Lists:
1) Enclosures will only be posted to the Real Time version of the Lists.
2) Enclosures will NOT be included in the Daily Digest version of the Lists.
3) Enclosures WILL BE forwarded on to the BBS Forum Web site.
4) Enclosures will NOT be appended to the Archives.
5) Enclosures will NOT be available in the List Browse feature.
6) Only the following file types and extensions will be allowed:
bmp doc dwg dxf gif jpg pdf png txt xls
All other enclosures types will be rejected and email returned to
sender. The enclosure types listed above are relatively safe from
a virus standpoint and don't pose a particularly large security risk.
7) !! All incoming enclosures will be scanned for viruses prior to posting
to the List. This is done in real time and will not slow down
the process of posting the message !!
Here are some rules for posting enclosures. Failure to abide by these rules
could result in the removal of a subscriber's email address from the Lists.
1) Pay attention to what you are posting!! Make sure that the files
you are enclosing aren't HUGE (greater that 1MB). Remember that there
are still people checking they're email via dial up modem. If you post
30MB worth of pictures, you are placing an unnecessary burden on these
folks and the rest of us, for that matter.
2) SCALE YOUR PICTURES DOWN!!! I don't want to see huge 3000 x 2000
pictures getting posted that are 3 or 4MB each. This is just
unacceptable. Use a program such as Photoshop to scale the picture
down to something on the order of 800 x 600 and try to keep the
file size to less-than 200KB, preferably much less.
Microsoft has a really awesome utility available for free that allows
you to Right-Click on a picture in Explorer and automatically
scale it down and resave it. This is a great utility - get it, use it!
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx
Look for the link "Image Resizer"
3) !! This would seem to go without saying, but I'll say it anyway. Do not
post anything that would be considered offensive by your grandmother.
And you know what I'm saying; I don't want to see anything even
questionable. !!
4) REMEMBER THIS: If you post a 1MB enclosure to a List with 1000 members
subscribed, your 1MB enclosure must be resent 1000 times amounting
to 1MB X 1000 = 1 Gigabyte of network traffic!! BE CAREFUL and
BE COURTEOUS!
Also see the section below on the Matronics Photo and File Share where
you can have your files and photos posted on the Matronics web server
for long time viewing and availability.
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*** Digest Mode ***
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Each day, starting at 12 midnight PST US, a new 'digest' will be started.
This digest will contain the same information that is currently appended
to the archive file. It has all of the headers except for the "From:"
and "Subject:" lines removed, and includes a message separator consisting
of a line of underscores.
Each day at 23:55 PST US, the day's messages as described above will be
combined and sent as a single message to everyone on the digest email list.
To subscribe to the digest list, use the same subscription web form
described above, and just select the Digest version of the List.
http://www.matronics.com/subscribe
Note that you *can* be subscribed to both the realtime and digest versions
of the List at the same time. This is perfectly acceptable.
Now some caveats:
* Messages sent to "rotaxengines-list-digest" will be forwarded to the standard
email list. In other words, you cannot post messages only to the
digest List.
* If you are subscribed to both the regular List and the digest List, you
will receive the realtime postings as well as the digest at the end of
the day.
* If you reply to the digest email, your message will be forwarded to the
normal list associated with the digest. Important Note: Please change
the subject line to reflect the topic of your response! Also, please
*do not include all or most of the digest in your reply*.
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*** List Digest Browser ***
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An archive of all the List Digests can be found online in either plain text
or HTML format. These archives contain the exact Digest that was posted to
the Digest email list on the given day. The Digest Archives can be found
at the following location:
http://www.matronics.com/digest
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*** The "DO NOT ARCHIVE" Message Flag ***
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At times, your message may concern something that is revelent only to a very
small number of persons or to a limited area, and you may not wish to archive
it. In such a case, simply put the following phrase anywhere in the
message:
do not archive
Your message will not be appended to the archive, but will be sent to List
email distribution as normal.
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***** READ THIS - Automatic Unsubscribes *****
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Note that if your email address begins to cause problems such as bounced
email, mailbox is filled, or any other errors, your address will be promptly
removed from the List. If you discover that you are no longer receiving
messages from the RotaxEngines-List, go to the following Web page, and look
for your email address and a possible reason for your removal.
The Matronics Email List uses utility called the "Email Weasel" that
automatically looks though the day's bounced email for addresses that
caused problems due to common things like "user is unknown", "mailbox
full", etc. If the Email Weasel removes your email address from the
Lists you will find record of it at the following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/unsubscribed
If the problem listed on the web site above has been resolved, please feel
free to resubscribe to the Lists of your choice.
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*** List Member Information ***
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If you have not done so already, please email me your phone numbers and
paper mail address in the following format:
smith@somehost.com
Joe Smith
123 Airport Lane
Tower, CA 91234-1234
098-765-1234 w
123-456-7890 h
Please forward this information to the following email address:
requests@matronics.com
I have a file of such things, that I typically use to contact you when
there are problems with your email address. The information will NOT
be used for any other commercial purpose.
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*** Realtime Web Email List Browsing ***
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Recent messages posted to the RotaxEngines-List are also made available on
the Web for realtime browsing. Seven days worth of back postings are
available with this feature. The messages can be sorted by Subject,
Author, Date, or Message Thread. The Realtime List Browser indexes are
updated twice per hour at xx:15 and xx:45. You can also reply to a message
or start a new message directly from the List Browser Interface (coming soon).
You do not have to be subscribed to the given list to use the List
Browser Interface in view-mode.
http://www.matronics.com/browselist/rotaxengines-list
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*** Web Forums Bulletin Board Interface ***
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A phpBB BBS web Forums front end is available for all RotaxEngines-List content.
content. The Forums contain all of the same content available via the email
distribution and found on the various archive viewing formats such as the
List Browse, etc. Any posts on the web Forums will be cross posted to the
respective email List, and posts to the Email List will be cross posted to
the web Forums.
You may view all List content on the Forums without any special login.
If you wish to post a message via the Web Forum interface, however, you
will need to Register. This is a simple process that takes only a few
minutes. A link to the Registration page can be found at the top of the
main web Forums page. Note that registering on the Forum web site also
enables you to send email posts to the Lists as well. You will also need to
Subscribe to the respective Email List as described above to receive the
Email Distribution of the List, however.
The Matroincs Email List Web BBS Forums can be found at the following URL:
http://forums.matronics.com
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*** Matronics Email List Wiki ***
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In an attempt to make it easy to store and find structured and often accessed
information, Matronics has installed a Wiki at:
http://wiki.matronics.com
The Wiki allows individuals to create web pages to contain useful information
for other users of the mailing lists and web site. Unlike an ordinary web page
where the content needs to be submitted to Matronics for inclusion, the Wiki
permits the users to construct their own pages and have them visible immediately.
While constructing pages for the Wiki is not difficult, some may not be
comfortable building pages. In that case, simply prepare the text and any
images and email it to:
wiki-support@matronics.com
One of the volunteers on that list will take your submission and construct
a Wiki page for you.
Often someone produces a particularly useful posting in email one one of the
Lists that would be of general interest. In that case Matronics may take that
post and convert it into a Wiki page.
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*** List Archives ***
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A file containing of all of the previous postings to the RotaxEngines-List is
available on line. The archive file information is available via the
Web and FTP in a number of forms. Each are briefly described below:
* RotaxEngines-List.FAQ
- Latest version of the RotaxEngines-List Frequently Asked Question
page (this document).
* RotaxEngines-Archive.digest.complete
- Complete file with most of the email header info removed and
page breaks inserted between messages.
* RotaxEngines-Archive.digest.vol-??
- Same as the file above, but broken up into small sections that
can more easily handled.
* RotaxEngines-Archive.digest.complete.zip
- Same as the RotaxEngines-Archive.digest.complete file above, but
in PKZIP format. Use "binary" data transfer methods.
* RotaxEngines-Archive.digest.complete.Z
- Same as the RotaxEngines-Archive.digest.complete file above, but
in
UNIX compress format. Use "binary" data transfer methods.
Download Via FTP
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The archive file is available via anonymous FTP from ftp.matronics.com
in the "/pub/Archives" directory. It is updated daily and can be found in
a number of formats as described above. (All filenames are case sensitive.)
ftp://ftp.matronics.com/pub/Archives
Download Via Web
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The archives are also available via a web listing. These can be found
toward the bottom of the following web page:
http://www.matronics.com/archives
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*** Complete List Web Archive Browsing ***
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All messages posted to the RotaxEngines-List are also available using the
Email List Archive Browsing feature. With this utility, all messages
in the List are indexed, and individual sub-archives can be browsed.
http://www.matronics.com/archive/archive-index.cgi?RotaxEngines
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**** High-Speed Archive Search Engine ***
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You can use the custom, high-performance Matronics Email List Search Engine
to quickly locate and browse any messages that have been posted to the
List. The Engine allows the user to easily search any of the currently
available List archives.
http://www.matronics.com/search
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*** File and Photo Share ***
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With the Matronics Email List File and Photo Share you can share pictures
and other data with members of the List without having to forward a
copy of it to everyone. To share your Files and Photos, simply email
them to:
pictures@matronics.com
!! ==> Please including the following information with each submission:
1) Email Lists that they are related to.
2) Your Full Name.
3) Your Email Address.
4) One line Subject description.
5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic.
6-x) One-line Description of each photo or file
Prior to public availability of the files and photos, each will be scanned
for viruses. Please also note that the process of making the files and
photos available on the web site is a pseudo-manual process, and I try to
process them every few days.
Following the availability of the new Photoshare, an email message will be
sent to the Email Lists enumerated in 1) above indicating that the new
Share is available and what the direct URL to it is.
For a current list of available Photoshares, have a look at the Main
Index Page:
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
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*** List Archive CDROM ***
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A complete Matronics Email List Archive CD is available that contains
all of the archives since the beginning of each of the Lists. The archives
for all of the Lists are included on the CD along with a freeware search
engine written by a list member. The CD is burned the day you order it
and will contain archive received up to the last minute. They make
great gifts!
http://www.matronics.com/ArchiveCDROM
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*** List Support Contributions ***
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The Matronics Lists are run *completely* through the support of it members.
You won't find any PopUpAds, flashing Banner ads, or any other form of
annoying commercialism on either the Email Messages or the List web pages
associated with the Matronics Email Lists. Every year during November
I run a low-key, low-pressure "Fund Raiser" where, throughout the month,
I ask List members to make a Contribution in any amount with which they
are comfortable.
I will often offer free gifts with certain contribution levels during the
Fund Raiser to increase the participation. The gifts are usually donated
by companies that are themselves List members.
Your Contributions go directly to supporting the operation of the Lists
including the high-speed, business-class Internet connection, server
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Generally Contributions range from $20 to $100 and are completely voluntary
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Contributions are accepted throughout the year, and if you've just
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If you enjoy and value the List, won't you make a Contribution today to
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Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
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RotaxEngines-List Usage Guidelines
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The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the RotaxEngines-List.
You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein.
Failure to use the RotaxEngines-List in the manner described below may result
in the removal of the subscribers from the List.
RotaxEngines-List Policy Statement
The purpose of the RotaxEngines-List is to provide a forum of discussion for
things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals
are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver
high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie
among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals
requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of
the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established:
- Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit
posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long
lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc.
- THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be
relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it.
- Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive
that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and
terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and
responses.
- Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address,
aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A short line
about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid
bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary
space in the archive.
- DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is
easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the
web page or FAQ first.
- If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of
your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it
easy to find threads in the archive.
- When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your
response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the
reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that
quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive
can not be overstated!
- When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT
then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that clicking the
"reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your
response to the original poster. You might have to actively address
your response with the original poster's email address.
- DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something
to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I
agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent
to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large.
- When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to
comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly
contribute something valuable.
- Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone
polite and respectful. Don't make snide comments, personally attack
other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously
controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that
will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing.
- Occasional posts by vendors or individuals who are regularly
subscribed to a given List are considered acceptable. Posts by
List members promoting their respective products or items for sale
should be of a friendly, informal nature, and should not resemble
a typical SPAM message. The List isn't about commercialism, but
is about sharing information and knowledge. This applies to
everyone, including those who provide products to the entire
community. Informal presentation and moderation should be the
operatives with respect to advertising on the Lists.
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Dear Listers,
Please read over the RotaxEngines-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete
RotaxEngines-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the
following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/RotaxEngines-List.FAQ.html
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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RotaxEngines-List Usage Guidelines
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The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the RotaxEngines-List.
You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein.
Failure to use the RotaxEngines-List in the manner described below may result
in the removal of the subscribers from the List.
RotaxEngines-List Policy Statement
The purpose of the RotaxEngines-List is to provide a forum of discussion for
things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals
are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver
high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie
among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals
requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of
the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established:
- Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit
posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long
lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc.
- THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be
relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it.
- Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive
that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and
terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and
responses.
- Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address,
aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A short line
about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid
bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary
space in the archive.
- DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is
easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the
web page or FAQ first.
- If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of
your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it
easy to find threads in the archive.
- When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your
response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the
reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that
quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive
can not be overstated!
- When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT
then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that clicking the
"reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your
response to the original poster. You might have to actively address
your response with the original poster's email address.
- DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something
to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I
agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent
to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large.
- When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to
comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly
contribute something valuable.
- Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone
polite and respectful. Don't make snide comments, personally attack
other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously
controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that
will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing.
- Occasional posts by vendors or individuals who are regularly
subscribed to a given List are considered acceptable. Posts by
List members promoting their respective products or items for sale
should be of a friendly, informal nature, and should not resemble
a typical SPAM message. The List isn't about commercialism, but
is about sharing information and knowledge. This applies to
everyone, including those who provide products to the entire
community. Informal presentation and moderation should be the
operatives with respect to advertising on the Lists.
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