---------------------------------------------------------- RotaxEngines-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 02/02/10: 16 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:57 AM - Re: HOSE FOR ROTAX 912 (Catz631@aol.com) 2. 04:02 AM - Re: Speaking of coolant hoses...Speaking of coolant hoses... (Catz631@aol.com) 3. 05:02 AM - Re: Speaking of coolant hoses...Speaking of coolant hoses... (lucien) 4. 06:11 AM - Re: Beading versus Flaring (Thom Riddle) 5. 06:47 AM - Re: Beading versus Flaring (lucien) 6. 07:05 AM - Re: HOSE FOR ROTAX 912 (rampil) 7. 07:15 AM - Re: Re: Beading versus Flaring (paul wilson) 8. 07:23 AM - Re: Re: Beading versus Flaring (paul wilson) 9. 08:12 AM - Re: Re: Beading versus Flaring (Jim_and_Lucy Chuk) 10. 08:12 AM - Re: Re: Beading versus Flaring (Richard Girard) 11. 08:49 AM - Re: Re: Speaking of coolant hoses... (Noel Loveys) 12. 01:10 PM - Re: Re: Muffler FS (cleone24) 13. 01:39 PM - Re: Re: Speaking of coolant hoses... (Don Hudgeon) 14. 02:25 PM - Re: Beading versus Flaring (rampil) 15. 02:25 PM - Re: Re: Speaking of coolant hoses... (Richard Girard) 16. 04:32 PM - Re: Re: Speaking of coolant hoses... (Noel Loveys) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:57:31 AM PST US From: Catz631@aol.com Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: HOSE FOR ROTAX 912 Ira, That is the correct sizes for the fuel hoses but not the water coolant hoses,they are 17 mm. I also went with the blue oil hose(from CPS) Dick Maddux Milton,Fl ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:02:30 AM PST US From: Catz631@aol.com Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: Speaking of coolant hoses...Speaking of coolant hoses... How about these: _http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/group.asp?GroupID=COOLNIPPLE_ (http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/group.asp?GroupID=COOLNIPPLE) -- Craig That's a good site Craig ! Dick Maddux Milton,Fl ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:02:10 AM PST US Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Speaking of coolant hoses...Speaking of coolant hoses... From: "lucien" [quote="Dick Maddux"]How about these: http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/group.asp?GroupID=COOLNIPPLE (http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/group.asp?GroupID=COOLNIPPLE) -- Craig That's a good site Craig ! Dick Maddux Milton,Fl > [b] Yeah these would work for me if I could get different lengths.... But that's how I ended up just buying some pipe and a beading tool in the end.... Fortunately the local O'reilly's car parts place carries Gates water hose which is good stuff, so I can use that to manufacture my tubes. The $60/meter 17mm hose for the water tubes on the engine is also just Gates heater hose, but it's in 17mm which to my knowledge is not available in the US _except_ through Rotax dealers. I think that's why it's so expensive - goes from Gates to Europe, then through Rotax then back here through their dealers.... Lots of markup there...... I've been considering replumbing the water hoses on the engine when I break it open to replace the radiator hoses but inspecting them now they're still in such good condition I might just go "on condition" instead on those. They're still pliable and no cracks or deterioration so seems excessive to replace them all. I'll make a much closer inspection of the tubes with a magnifying glass etc when I break it open for the radiator hoses, but it may be a ain't-broke-yet-so-don't-fix-it on the water tubes.... LS -------- LS Titan II SS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=284563#284563 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:11:50 AM PST US Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Beading versus Flaring From: "Thom Riddle" Beading tool on Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/Earls-008ERL-EZ-Beader-Tubing/dp/B000A8OTVI No idea if it will do the job but it is a lot cheaper than $400. -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Tennessee Prop 64x31 We refuse to believe this country, so powerful to defend its citizens abroad, is unable to protect its citizens at home. - Ida B. Wells Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=284571#284571 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:47:08 AM PST US Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Beading versus Flaring From: "lucien" Thom Riddle wrote: > Beading tool on Amazon. > > http://www.amazon.com/Earls-008ERL-EZ-Beader-Tubing/dp/B000A8OTVI > > No idea if it will do the job but it is a lot cheaper than $400. Yeah I was considering this one too, but I couldn't get enough info on what size I needed to get to bead the tubing I'm going to use. So I just went with the Parker tool to make sure I can do the job right and not have to go back and forth trying to get the right size tool etc.... And I'll have it around so other folks can use it in case they need it etc... LS -------- LS Titan II SS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=284582#284582 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:05:51 AM PST US Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: HOSE FOR ROTAX 912 From: "rampil" Hi Dick, You are absolutely correct, the coolant hose is 17 mm and should be available from any hose shop. I bought mine locally and just had to tell the clerk that it was for a marine inboard engine since they don't sell to aircraft! Same deal when I had to originally buy inner tubes for the nose gear - the local tire shops will only sell the tubes if they are for a go-kart, not an aircraft! Ira -------- Ira N224XS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=284585#284585 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:15:43 AM PST US From: paul wilson Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Beading versus Flaring Not a deal at all The 2" size is $400 Then are size specific just like the old Parker kit. Here is a description: * Tubing Beaders, EZ Beader, for 3/8, 1/2, 5/8, 3/4, 1, 1 1/4, 1 1/2, 1 3/4, 2 in. Tube Outside Diameter, Kit They don't even sell 1/4" or 5/16" for fuel lines The Bingillis book has a description for a diy tool that works for about 3/4" and larger. I made one and the results are marginal but functional. PW ============== At 06:11 AM 2/2/2010, you wrote: > >Beading tool on Amazon. > >http://www.amazon.com/Earls-008ERL-EZ-Beader-Tubing/dp/B000A8OTVI > >No idea if it will do the job but it is a lot cheaper than $400. > >-------- >Thom Riddle >Buffalo, NY >Kolb Slingshot SS-021 >Jabiru 2200A #1574 >Tennessee Prop 64x31 > > >We refuse to believe this country, so powerful to defend its >citizens abroad, is unable to protect its citizens at home. > - Ida B. Wells > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=284571#284571 > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:23:03 AM PST US From: paul wilson Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Beading versus Flaring Not a deal at all The 2" size is $400 Then are size specific just like the old Parker kit. Here is a description: * Tubing Beaders, EZ Beader, for 3/8, 1/2, 5/8, 3/4, 1, 1 1/4, 1 1/2, 1 3/4, 2 in. Tube Outside Diameter, Kit They don't even sell 1/4" or 5/16" for fuel lines The Bingillis book has a description for a diy tool that works for about 3/4" and larger. I made one and the results are marginal but functional. PW PS: In a pinch when I broke my 5.16" beader on steel tubing I just lightly threaded the tube end using an oversized metric die. The result was a nice rough surface to grip the hose. Used on a EFI truck 45psi max still holding after 5 years. Best bet for a aircraft tube is find a shop with the Parker tools. Keep searching machine shops and radiator shops. All auto coolant connections are beaded. PW ============ At 06:46 AM 2/2/2010, you wrote: > > >Thom Riddle wrote: > > Beading tool on Amazon. > > > > http://www.amazon.com/Earls-008ERL-EZ-Beader-Tubing/dp/B000A8OTVI > > > > No idea if it will do the job but it is a lot cheaper than $400. > > >Yeah I was considering this one too, but I couldn't get enough info >on what size I needed to get to bead the tubing I'm going to use. So >I just went with the Parker tool to make sure I can do the job right >and not have to go back and forth trying to get the right size tool etc.... >And I'll have it around so other folks can use it in case they need it etc... > >LS > >-------- >LS >Titan II SS > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=284582#284582 > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:12:11 AM PST US From: Jim_and_Lucy Chuk Subject: RE: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Beading versus Flaring I did a little checking on this also=2C because I had no idea what size the beader would do. I googled it and ended up finding out that a model 008 was 3/8" OD tubing=2C 009 was 1/2"=2C 010 was 5/8"=2C 011 was 3/4"=2C 0 12 was 1"=2C ect=2C ect. Price went up as the size got bigger. Take care =2C Jim Chuk > Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Beading versus Flaring > From: lstavenhagen@hotmail.com > Date: Tue=2C 2 Feb 2010 06:46:53 -0800 > To: rotaxengines-list@matronics.com > om> > > > Thom Riddle wrote: > > Beading tool on Amazon. > > > > http://www.amazon.com/Earls-008ERL-EZ-Beader-Tubing/dp/B000A8OTVI > > > > No idea if it will do the job but it is a lot cheaper than $400. > > > Yeah I was considering this one too=2C but I couldn't get enough info on what size I needed to get to bead the tubing I'm going to use. So I just we nt with the Parker tool to make sure I can do the job right and not have to go back and forth trying to get the right size tool etc.... > And I'll have it around so other folks can use it in case they need it et c... > > LS > > -------- > LS > Titan II SS > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=284582#284582 > > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:12:17 AM PST US Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Beading versus Flaring From: Richard Girard Spruce: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/menus/to/tubing_beaders.html Rick Girard On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 8:11 AM, Thom Riddle wrote: > > > > Beading tool on Amazon. > > http://www.amazon.com/Earls-008ERL-EZ-Beader-Tubing/dp/B000A8OTVI > > No idea if it will do the job but it is a lot cheaper than $400. > > -------- > Thom Riddle > Buffalo, NY > Kolb Slingshot SS-021 > Jabiru 2200A #1574 > Tennessee Prop 64x31 > > > We refuse to believe this country, so powerful to defend its citizens > abroad, is unable to protect its citizens at home. > - Ida B. Wells > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=284571#284571 > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:49:25 AM PST US From: "Noel Loveys" Subject: RE: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Speaking of coolant hoses... Do you really want to trust aluminium that has been heated... unless you are a specialist welder. Even comparatively low heating can ruin the crystalline structure of the metal. Noel From: owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blackmore Sent: February 1, 2010 12:53 PM Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Speaking of coolant hoses... Another thought.. Take a piece to the 6061 to the muffler shop and have them expand a little ring heat it up at home and shrink it onto the pipe! -------Original Message------- From: lucien Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Speaking of coolant hoses... blackmore(at)platinum.ca wrote: > A muffler shop might even have that kind of expander ( worth a call!) Way up here in the bush I have seen people (me) weld/tack a little piece of strapping on the pipe then push the hose over and put the clamp on the other side of it, works the same with the same results > Chris > > [i]---- Ok, will call around. I've thought about just flaring the ends myself if I could find an appropriate tool. Smoothing it off and then pushing the hose over that. What thickness of tubing you guys think would be sufficient? I guess 6061 on the grade is probably good enough, just wondering about the thickness? If I come up snake eyes, Rick, I'll just have you make a pair of em for me ;) Thanks, LS -------- LS Titan II SS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=284367#284367 ============ he RotaxEngines-List Email Forum - or?RotaxEngines-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RotaxEngines-List ============ sp; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - p://forums.matronics.com ============ sp; - List Contribution Web Site - sp; -Matt Dralle, List Admin. ution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ============ ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 01:10:54 PM PST US From: "cleone24" Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Muffler FS I have one also, cleone24@mchsi.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Ellery Batchelder Jr To: rotaxengines-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 7:15 PM Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Muffler FS if You are looking for an exhaust system for a 912 Rotax a Friend of mine has a new system that he is not going to use He decided to put a Jabaru engine on his plane and has one for sale if you are interested send me an email and I will give you his contact info Ellery Batchelder Jr. -----Original Message----- From: gyroav8r To: rotaxengines-list@matronics.com Sent: Mon, Feb 1, 2010 1:04 pm Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Muffler FS Is your exhaust still available? Is it a standard Rotax stainless exhaust? Thanks Roy Davis 772 4861005 gyronautical@bellsouth.net Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=284394#284394 List" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RotaxEngines-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 01:39:09 PM PST US Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Speaking of coolant hoses... From: Don Hudgeon What is wrong with using automotive hoses on the Rotax? Many of the late model vehicles have very creative hose assemblies and if you visit the warehouse section of your local auto supplier you can quite often find a very nicely shaped hose with just the right preformed bends that eliminates many of the connected elbows necessary when using straight hoses. It seems to me that one fairly continuous formed hose if safer than connected bits. After all, how many of us change out our auto hoses every few years and how many actually fail. I believe the pressures would be quite similar to modern vehicles. Comments? On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Noel Loveys wrote: > Do you really want to trust aluminium that has been heated... unless you > are a specialist welder. Even comparatively low heating can ruin the > crystalline structure of the metal. > > > Noel > > > *From:* owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Chris > Blackmore > *Sent:* February 1, 2010 12:53 PM > *To:* rotaxengines-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Re: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Speaking of coolant hoses... > > > Another thought.. Take a piece to the 6061 to the muffler shop and have > them expand a little ring heat it up at home and shrink it onto the pipe! > > > *-------Original Message-------* > > > *From:* lucien > > *Date:* 01/02/2010 9:08:41 AM > > *To:* rotaxengines-list@matronics.com > > *Subject:* RotaxEngines-List: Re: Speaking of coolant hoses... > > > lstavenhagen@hotmail.com> > > > blackmore(at)platinum.ca wrote: > > > A muffler shop might even have that kind of expander ( worth a call!) Way > up here in the bush I have seen people (me) weld/tack a little piece of > strapping on the pipe then push the hose over and put the clamp on the other > side of it, works the same with the same results > > > Chris > > > > > > [i]---- > > > Ok, will call around. > > > I've thought about just flaring the ends myself if I could find an > appropriate tool. Smoothing it off and then pushing the hose over that. > > > What thickness of tubing you guys think would be sufficient? I guess 6061 > on the grade is probably good enough, just wondering about the thickness? > > > If I come up snake eyes, Rick, I'll just have you make a pair of em for me > ;) > > > Thanks, > > LS > > > -------- > > LS > > Titan II SS > > > Read this topic online here: > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=284367#284367 > > > ============ > > he RotaxEngines-List Email Forum - > > or?RotaxEngines-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RotaxEngines-List > > ============ > > sp; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - > > p://forums.matronics.com > > ============ > > sp; - List Contribution Web Site - > > sp; -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > > ution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > ============ > > > * * > > * * > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RotaxEngines-List* > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://forums.matronics.com* > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > > ** > > * * > > * > > > * > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 02:25:10 PM PST US Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Beading versus Flaring From: "rampil" Here's another option for tooling: http://www.tubebeadingtool.com/applications.htm -------- Ira N224XS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=284649#284649 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 02:25:17 PM PST US Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Speaking of coolant hoses... From: Richard Girard Lucien, This is Spruce's table for 3003-O tubing. The least of the tubing used for lines. For formability, I'd go with 5052-O, it's not heat treated and you can get it both in .035 and .049. I'd be perfectly happy with the .035. If you aren't worried about weight, go with copper tubing and polish it up. When I ran air lines in my shop I checked the spec on the thinest wall copper in 3/4" and it was rated to over 1000 psi. Rick *O.D. (In.)**Wall Thickness* *Max. Working Pressure* (PSI)* *Part No.* *Price Per Ft.* *Price Per 50Ft.* *Buy* 1/8.025182003-40200*$0.41**$16.40* 3/16.02888003-40300*$0.40**$16.00* 1/4.03279503-40400*$0.46**$18.40* 5/16.03563003-40500*$0.61**$24.40* 3/8.03552003-40600*$0.63**$25.20* 1/2.03539003-40700*$0.88**$35.20* 5/8.03530503-40800*$0.99**$39.60* *Safety factor of 2. On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Don Hudgeon wrote: > What is wrong with using automotive hoses on the Rotax? Many of the late > model vehicles have very creative hose assemblies and if you visit the > warehouse section of your local auto supplier you can quite often find a > very nicely shaped hose with just the right preformed bends that eliminates > many of the connected elbows necessary when using straight hoses. It seems > to me that one fairly continuous formed hose if safer than connected bits. > After all, how many of us change out our auto hoses every few years and how > many actually fail. I believe the pressures would be quite similar to modern > vehicles. Comments? > > On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Noel Loveys wrote: > >> Do you really want to trust aluminium that has been heated... unless >> you are a specialist welder. Even comparatively low heating can ruin the >> crystalline structure of the metal. >> >> >> >> Noel >> >> >> >> *From:* owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: >> owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Chris >> Blackmore >> *Sent:* February 1, 2010 12:53 PM >> *To:* rotaxengines-list@matronics.com >> *Subject:* Re: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Speaking of coolant hoses... >> >> >> >> Another thought.. Take a piece to the 6061 to the muffler shop and have >> them expand a little ring heat it up at home and shrink it onto the pipe! >> >> >> >> *-------Original Message-------* >> >> >> >> *From:* lucien >> >> *Date:* 01/02/2010 9:08:41 AM >> >> *To:* rotaxengines-list@matronics.com >> >> *Subject:* RotaxEngines-List: Re: Speaking of coolant hoses... >> >> >> >> lstavenhagen@hotmail.com> >> >> >> >> >> >> blackmore(at)platinum.ca wrote: >> >> > A muffler shop might even have that kind of expander ( worth a call!) >> Way up here in the bush I have seen people (me) weld/tack a little piece of >> strapping on the pipe then push the hose over and put the clamp on the other >> side of it, works the same with the same results >> >> > Chris >> >> > >> >> > [i]---- >> >> >> >> >> >> Ok, will call around. >> >> >> >> I've thought about just flaring the ends myself if I could find an >> appropriate tool. Smoothing it off and then pushing the hose over that. >> >> >> >> What thickness of tubing you guys think would be sufficient? I guess 6061 >> on the grade is probably good enough, just wondering about the thickness? >> >> >> >> If I come up snake eyes, Rick, I'll just have you make a pair of em for me >> ;) >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> LS >> >> >> >> -------- >> >> LS >> >> Titan II SS >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=284367#284367 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ============ >> >> he RotaxEngines-List Email Forum - >> >> or?RotaxEngines-List"> >> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RotaxEngines-List >> >> ============ >> >> sp; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - >> >> p://forums.matronics.com >> >> ============ >> >> sp; - List Contribution Web Site - >> >> sp; -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> >> ution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> >> ============ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> * * >> >> * * >> >> ** >> >> ** >> >> ** >> >> ** >> >> ** >> >> ** >> >> *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RotaxEngines-List* >> >> ** >> >> ** >> >> ** >> >> *http://forums.matronics.com* >> >> ** >> >> ** >> >> ** >> >> ** >> >> *http://www.matronics.com/contribution* >> >> ** >> >> * * >> >> * >> >> ist" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RotaxEngines-List >> >> tp://forums.matronics.com >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> * >> >> > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 04:32:21 PM PST US From: "Noel Loveys" Subject: RE: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Speaking of coolant hoses... I have automotive hoses on my engine. I do have some of the pre-shaped pieces held together with hard copper fittings. Originally when the plane had the R582 it had a heater plumbed in with 1 / 2" hard copper pipe... no leaks and no problems. The only problem I had was getting exact metric sizes, even for that there are workarounds. The minor problem I have now is the oil cooler I have uses 5/8" fittings while the engine fittings are much smaller. Noel From: owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don Hudgeon Sent: February 2, 2010 6:09 PM Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Speaking of coolant hoses... What is wrong with using automotive hoses on the Rotax? Many of the late model vehicles have very creative hose assemblies and if you visit the warehouse section of your local auto supplier you can quite often find a very nicely shaped hose with just the right preformed bends that eliminates many of the connected elbows necessary when using straight hoses. It seems to me that one fairly continuous formed hose if safer than connected bits. After all, how many of us change out our auto hoses every few years and how many actually fail. I believe the pressures would be quite similar to modern vehicles. Comments? On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Noel Loveys wrote: Do you really want to trust aluminium that has been heated... unless you are a specialist welder. Even comparatively low heating can ruin the crystalline structure of the metal. Noel From: owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blackmore Sent: February 1, 2010 12:53 PM Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Speaking of coolant hoses... Another thought.. Take a piece to the 6061 to the muffler shop and have them expand a little ring heat it up at home and shrink it onto the pipe! -------Original Message------- From: lucien Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Speaking of coolant hoses... blackmore(at)platinum.ca wrote: > A muffler shop might even have that kind of expander ( worth a call!) Way up here in the bush I have seen people (me) weld/tack a little piece of strapping on the pipe then push the hose over and put the clamp on the other side of it, works the same with the same results > Chris > > [i]---- Ok, will call around. I've thought about just flaring the ends myself if I could find an appropriate tool. Smoothing it off and then pushing the hose over that. What thickness of tubing you guys think would be sufficient? I guess 6061 on the grade is probably good enough, just wondering about the thickness? If I come up snake eyes, Rick, I'll just have you make a pair of em for me ;) Thanks, LS -------- LS Titan II SS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=284367#284367 ============ he RotaxEngines-List Email Forum - or?RotaxEngines-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RotaxEngines-List ============ sp; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - p://forums.matronics.com ============ sp; - List Contribution Web Site - sp; -Matt Dralle, List Admin. ution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ============ http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RotaxEngines-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution ist" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RotaxEngines-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rotaxengines-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RotaxEngines-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rotaxengines-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rotaxengines-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.