---------------------------------------------------------- RotaxEngines-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 02/12/10: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:44 AM - Re: Rotax-Owners Starts charging for Info (MacDonald Doug) 2. 07:24 AM - Re: Rotax-Owners Starts charging for Info (rampil) 3. 08:08 AM - Re: RotaxEngines-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 02/11/10 (Karel Vranken) 4. 08:17 PM - Re: RotaxEngines-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 02/11/10 (rampil) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:44:01 AM PST US From: MacDonald Doug Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Rotax-Owners Starts charging for Info Ira, I looked at a couple of service bullitens with my free re-registration two days ago. The only thing that Rotax Owner appears to be charging for is there educational videos. This should be okay with everyone since you would have to pay for this kind of video from anyone else (Lockwuod, CPS, etc). As for which product lines are supported by Rotec... Rotec is the Canadian distributor and Kodiak is the US distributor. Rotec supports the complete line of Rotax aircraft engines sold in Canada. Kodiak supports the comeplete line of Rotax engines sold in the US. Doug MacDonald CH-701 Scratch Builder NW Ontario, Canada 912-UL Do not archive > Time: 07:11:46 AM PST US > Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Rotax-Owners Starts > charging for Info > From: "rampil" > > > Roger what you say does seem to be the case. > It seems instead that ROAN's own website is intentionally > misleading: > > http://www.rotax-owner.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=160&Itemid=6 > > Look at the descriptions of what is claimed free and not on > their own site. > Look at where technical articles lay. What is claimed > to be free is > EMail notification of SBs, not the SBs themselves. > > > Perhaps this customer plundering is part of the new > arrangement where > Rotec handles all "certified" engines and Kodiak now > handles just the > non-certified engines. One might unkindly guess that > people who will > pay several thousand dollars more for a piece of paper to > accompany > exactly the same engine are ripe for plunder? > > -------- > Ira N224XS > __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:24:31 AM PST US Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Rotax-Owners Starts charging for Info From: "rampil" Hi Doug, The videos were actually free for roughly two years. As for Kodiak, if you look at the Rotax Owners site, they explicitly state that Kodiak only handles uncertifed engine sales and now Rotec handles all certified engine sales in North America. Perhaps the site is in error? http://www.rotax-owner.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=106&Itemid=21 Let me know please, not that I would consider buying a "certified" engine -------- Ira N224XS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=286133#286133 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:08:56 AM PST US Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: RotaxEngines-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 02/11/10 From: Karel Vranken Ira, Go to Dubai and jump from the highest tower in the world. You will fly for free, save your engine as well as your aircraft; but don't ask for a SB afterwards. Karel Vranken, F-PKRL PS: Ramp in Dutch means disaster. 2010/2/12 RotaxEngines-List Digest Server > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete RotaxEngines-List Digest can also be found in either of > the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the RotaxEngines-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text > editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 10-02-11&Archive=RotaxEngines > > Text Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 10-02-11&Archive=RotaxEngines > > > =============================================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > =============================================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > RotaxEngines-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Thu 02/11/10: 2 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 06:42 AM - Re: Rotax-Owners Starts charging for Info (lucien) > 2. 07:11 AM - Re: Rotax-Owners Starts charging for Info (rampil) > > > ________________________________ Message 1 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 06:42:35 AM PST US > Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Rotax-Owners Starts charging for Info > From: "lucien" > > > Roger Lee wrote: > > SB's are all still free. Just register and SB's will be sent to you > automatically. > The only thing that changed were the free videos. > > > I was fixin' to say...... Tried the other day to download an SB and had no > problems > with anything popping up and asking me to pay money... Yeah I think this > just extends to the videos... > > LS > > -------- > LS > Titan II SS > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=285937#285937 > > > ________________________________ Message 2 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 07:11:46 AM PST US > Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Rotax-Owners Starts charging for Info > From: "rampil" > > > Roger what you say does seem to be the case. > It seems instead that ROAN's own website is intentionally misleading: > > > http://www.rotax-owner.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=160&Itemid=6 > > Look at the descriptions of what is claimed free and not on their own site. > Look at where technical articles lay. What is claimed to be free is > EMail notification of SBs, not the SBs themselves. > > > Perhaps this customer plundering is part of the new arrangement where > Rotec handles all "certified" engines and Kodiak now handles just the > non-certified engines. One might unkindly guess that people who will > pay several thousand dollars more for a piece of paper to accompany > exactly the same engine are ripe for plunder? > > -------- > Ira N224XS > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=285942#285942 > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:17:03 PM PST US Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: RotaxEngines-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 02/11/10 From: "rampil" H Karel, Very kind of you to chirp in. 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