RotaxEngines-List Digest Archive

Tue 02/16/10


Total Messages Posted: 9



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     1. 12:36 AM - 912 UL (mau11)
     2. 06:10 AM - Can anyone explain airbox pressure to me on 914? (rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us)
     3. 08:09 AM - Re: 912 UL (Ellery Batchelder Jr)
     4. 08:55 AM - Can anyone explain airbox pressure to me on a 914? (rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us)
     5. 09:20 AM - Re: 912 UL (rampil)
     6. 10:08 AM - Re: 912 UL (Scott DeMeyer)
     7. 01:01 PM - Re: 912ul (william sullivan)
     8. 03:12 PM - Re: Re: 912ul (Bob Brennan)
     9. 07:11 PM - Re: 912 UL (Bob Borger)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:36:59 AM PST US
    From: "mau11" <mau11@free.fr>
    Subject: 912 UL
    X-mailer: Foxmail 6, 15, 201, 22 [cn] SGVsbG8gc2lycyANCkkgc2FsZSBSb3RheCA5MTIgVUwgDQoNCjEuIFRoaXMgZW5naW5lICg4MGN2 KSBpcyBtb3VudGluZyBvbiBteSBFdXJvcGEgYWlyY3JhZnQsIEkgY2hhbmdlIGZvciAxMDAgY3Yu DQoyLiBFbmdpbmUgaW5jbHVkZWQgY2x1dGNoIGludG8gdGhlIGdlYXIgYm94LiANCjMuIE5ldmVy IGluY2lkZW50LCBtZWNoYW5pY2FsIGhpc3RvcnkgaXMgMzQwIGhvdXJzIHNpbmNlIGJyYW5kIG5l dywgaXQgaXMgdXNpbmcgb25seSBieSBtZSAoSSBhbSB0dXJiaW5lIHBpbG90KS4NCjQuIE1haW50 ZW5hbmNlIGlzIG1hZGUgYnkgbWUgZm9sbG93aW5nIHRoZSBSb3RheCBpbnN0cnVjdGlvbnMgbWFp bnRlbmFuY2UuDQo1LiA3NzAwIIAgaXMgbXkgbGFzdCBwcmljZSwgZW5naW5lIGlzIGRlbGl2ZXJ5 IHdpdGggaGVhdGVyIGNhcmJ1cmV0dG9ycyBzeXN0ZW0gKGZyb20gc2t5ZHJpdmUgdWspIHBhcGVy IG1haW50ZW5hbmNlIG1hbnVhbCBhbmQgUERGIGluc3RhbGwgbWFudWFsIChwZGYpDQo2LiBJcyBz ZWxsaW5nIHdpdGhvdXQgZXhoYXVzdCByaW5nIHJvdGF4IHN1cHBvcnQgYW5kIHBsZW51bSBhaXIg Y2hhbWJlciAoc3BlY2lmaWMgZm9yIG15IGFpcmNyYWZ0KS4NCjcuIFRoZSBydWJiZXIgY29vbGlu ZyBob3NlIGFyZSByZXBsYWNlZCAzIHllYXJzIGFnbyAoZXZlcnkgNSB5ZWFycyBpbiBvdXIgcnVs ZXMpLiANCjguIEVuZ2luZSBkZWxpdmVyeTogR3Jlbm9ibGUsMzggRnJhbmNlLg0KOS4gSSBzZW5k IHRvIHlvdSBwaWN0dXJlcyBvZiBlbmdpbmUgaW5zdGFsbGF0aW9uLg0KDQpJbiBhZGRpdGlvbiB0 aGlzIGVuZ2luZSBzZXJpZXMgaW4gbm90IGNvbmNlcm5lZCBieSBSb3RheCBzZXJ2aWNlIGJ1bGxl dGlucyB0aGlzIHNlcmllcyBpcyBwYXJ0aWN1bGFyeSByZWxpYWJsZS4NCkdvb2QgZGF5DQoNCg0K DQoNCg0KDQptYXUxMQ0KMTYtMDItMjAxMA0K


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    Time: 06:10:18 AM PST US
    Subject: Can anyone explain airbox pressure to me on 914?
    From: rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us
    Hi Group I was reading tonight 914 Maintenance manual revised May-01-2007 page 76-00-00. The mention with newer TCU that airbox pressure at between 110 to 115% will be 40.5" Mercury. OK from what I understand after you go through carbs MP will be~ 1" less with high power settings, so that kinda sorta makes sense. Between 100 to 108% airbox pressure will be 36" Mercury. Again subtract 1" for carb drop at a high power settingand that seems reasonable. Now for my problem making sense of it all. At idle they say airbox pressure will be 44.3" Mercury. Boy that seems to be a lot. Perhaps it really is that high and at idle there would be a lot of restriction going through butterfly thus you would have a much lower MP, but not quite sure. If it is so and truly that highIthink compared to older style TCU which has much less airbox pressure at idle the newer style would be much more better at preventing carb ice at low throttle settings?? Can anyone shed a bit more light? Thx. Ron Parigoris


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    Time: 08:09:28 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: 912 UL
    From: Ellery Batchelder Jr <elleryweld@aol.com>
    How much is it that in American Money? Ellery Batchelder Jr. -----Original Message----- From: mau11 <mau11@free.fr> Sent: Tue, Feb 16, 2010 3:08 am Subject: RotaxEngines-List: 912 UL Hello sirs I sale Rotax 912 UL 1. This engine (80cv) is mounting on my Europa aircraft, I change for 100 cv. 2. Engine included clutch into the gear box. 3. Never incident, mechanical history is 340 hours since brand new, it is using only by me (I am turbine pilot). 4. Maintenance is made by me following the Rotax instructions maintenance. 5. 7700 =82=AC is my last price, engine is delivery with heater carbure ttors system (from skydrive uk) paper maintenance manual and PDF install manual (pdf) 6. Is selling without exhaust ring rotax support and plenum air chamber (s pecific for my aircraft). 7. The rubber cooling hose are replaced 3 years ago (every 5 years in our rules). 8. Engine delivery: Grenoble,38 France. 9. I send to you pictures of engine installation. In addition this engine series in not concerned by Rotax service bulletins this series is particulary reliable. Good day mau11 16-02-2010 16-02-2010 mau11 16-02-2010 16-02-2010


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    Time: 08:55:26 AM PST US
    Subject: Can anyone explain airbox pressure to me on a 914?
    From: rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us
    Hi Group I was reading tonight 914 Maintenance manual revised May-01-2007 page 76-00-00. The mention with newer TCU that airbox pressure at between 110 to 115% will be 40.5" Mercury. OK from what I understand after you go through carbs MP will be~ 1" less with high power settings, so that kinda sorta makes sense. Between 100 to 108% airbox pressure will be 36" Mercury. Again subtract 1" for carb drop at a high power settingand that seems reasonable. Now for my problem making sense of it all. At idle they say airbox pressure will be 44.3" Mercury. Boy that seems to be a lot. Perhaps it really is that high and at idle there would be a lot of restriction going through butterfly thus you would have a much lower MP, but not quite sure. If it is so and truly that highIthink compared to older style TCU which has much less airbox pressure at idle the newer style would be much more better at preventing carb ice at low throttle settings?? Can anyone shed a bit more light? Thx. Ron Parigoris


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    Time: 09:20:22 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: 912 UL
    From: "rampil" <ira.rampil@gmail.com>
    If you have to ask, you can't afford the shipping! Just Joking :) The exchange rate changes daily and this is not the place to discuss current economic policy. -------- Ira N224XS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=286654#286654


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    Time: 10:08:23 AM PST US
    From: Scott DeMeyer <scottsr1100rt@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: 912 UL
    $10,500 give or take a few. --- On Tue, 2/16/10, Ellery Batchelder Jr <elleryweld@aol.com> wrote: From: Ellery Batchelder Jr <elleryweld@aol.com> Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: 912 UL How much is=C2-it that in American Money? =0A =0A=0A=0A=0A=0AEllery Batchelder Jr.=0A=0A =0A =0A=0A=0A-----Original Message----- =0AFrom: mau11 <mau11@free.fr> =0ATo: rotaxengines-list <rotaxengines-list@matronics.com> =0ASent: Tue, Feb 16, 2010 3:08 am =0ASubject: RotaxEngines-List: 912 UL =0A =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AHello sirs =0A=0A=0AI sale Rotax 912 UL =0A=0A=0A =C2-=0A=0A=0A1. This engine (80cv) is mounting on my Europa aircraft, I c hange for 100 cv.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A2. Engine included clutch into the gear box .=C2-=0A=0A=0A3. Never incident, mechanical history is 340 hours since br and new, it is using only by me (I am turbine pilot).=0A=0A=0A4. Maintenanc e is made by me following the Rotax instructions maintenance.=0A=0A=0A5.=C2 -7700 =82=AC is my last price, engine is delivery with heater carburet tors system (from skydrive uk) paper maintenance manual and PDF install man ual (pdf)=0A=0A=0A6. Is selling without exhaust ring rotax support=C2-and plenum air chamber (specific for my aircraft).=0A=0A=0A7. The rubber cooli ng hose are replaced 3 years ago (every 5 years in our rules).=C2-=0A=0A =0A8. Engine delivery: Grenoble,38 France.=0A=0A=0A9. I send to you picture s of engine installation.=0A=0A=0A=C2-=0A=0A=0AIn addition this engine se ries in not concerned by Rotax service bulletins this series is particulary reliable.=0A=0A=0AGood day=0A=0A=0A=0A=C2-=0A=0A=0A=C2-=0A=0A=0A=C2- =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0Amau11=0A=0A=0A16-02-2010=0A=0A =0A=0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 01:01:24 PM PST US
    From: william sullivan <williamtsullivan@att.net>
    Subject: Re: 912ul
    - Ellery- 7,700 euros is about $10,600 in US dollars.- Plus freight, cu stoms, etc.- Current exchange rate is about $1.38 US buys one Euro. - ------------------------- ---------------------- Bill Sul livan


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    Time: 03:12:02 PM PST US
    From: "Bob Brennan" <matronics@bob.brennan.name>
    Subject: Re: 912ul
    Plus sales tax ($$!!) if your state is so inclined. Mine was, 6% (Pa). Bob Brennan - N717GB ELSA Repairman, inspection rated 1991 UK Model 2 ELSA Kitfox taildragger Rotax 582 with 3 blade GSC prop Wrightsville Pa _____ From: owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of william sullivan Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 11:57 AM Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: 912ul Ellery- 7,700 euros is about $10,600 in US dollars. Plus freight, customs, etc. Current exchange rate is about $1.38 US buys one Euro. Bill Sullivan


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    Time: 07:11:08 PM PST US
    From: Bob Borger <rlborger@mac.com>
    Subject: Re: 912 UL
    Ed, My calculator says $10,477.30 Bob Borger On Tuesday, February 16, 2010, at 09:11AM, "Ellery Batchelder Jr" <elleryweld@aol.com> wrote: >




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