RotaxEngines-List Digest Archive

Sun 07/25/10


Total Messages Posted: 8



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     1. 05:48 AM - IDLE RPM (Damien)
     2. 11:35 AM - Re: IDLE RPM (Hugh McKay)
     3. 11:47 AM - EIS 2000 582 to 912 ? (egp8111)
     4. 11:50 AM - Re: IDLE RPM (Duncan & Ami McFadyean)
     5. 12:21 PM - Re: IDLE RPM (rampil)
     6. 12:34 PM - Re: IDLE RPM (Roger Lee)
     7. 12:59 PM - Re: IDLE RPM (Damien)
     8. 01:07 PM - Re: Re: IDLE RPM (Joel M.)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:48:53 AM PST US
    From: "Damien" <dgraham7@TWCNY.RR.COM>
    Subject: IDLE RPM
    Hello. I need to set the idle speed on my Rotax 912 80HP. The maintenence manual states that the idle speed should be 1400 RPM. I have a mechanic friend who feels that would be too low. He is concerned about the gearbox. Any comments ? Damien Zodiac 601 HDS


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    Time: 11:35:44 AM PST US
    From: "Hugh McKay" <hgmckay@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: IDLE RPM
    Damien, Some have stated that 1400 is OK, but I get way too much "chatter" in my gear box at that rpm, and I know that is not good for the gears in the gear box. I set my idle speed at 1800 because that is where my engine idles best. Some set theirs at 1600. I would recommend an idle speed in the range of 1700 to 1800 rpm. Hugh McKay Allegro 2000 Rotax 912 UL 380 hours From: Damien Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 8:48 AM Subject: RotaxEngines-List: IDLE RPM Hello. I need to set the idle speed on my Rotax 912 80HP. The maintenence manual states that the idle speed should be 1400 RPM. I have a mechanic friend who feels that would be too low. He is concerned about the gearbox. Any comments ? Damien Zodiac 601 HDS


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    Time: 11:47:18 AM PST US
    Subject: EIS 2000 582 to 912 ?
    From: "egp8111" <egp8111@aol.com>
    Does anyone know if an EIS 2000 set up for a Rotax 582 can be converted to use on a 912 ? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306233#306233


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    Time: 11:50:42 AM PST US
    From: "Duncan & Ami McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: IDLE RPM
    I find it useful to be able to pull back on the throttle to get the revs to 1400, so that (in a slippery 'plane) a less flat approach angle can be followed (in practice this does means 1400 rpm in the glide) there is also less taxiing on the brakes, and to allow shut down with less kickback. But agree that 1600rpm is a better normal idle speed. Duncan McF ----- Original Message ----- From: Hugh McKay To: rotaxengines-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 7:25 PM Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: IDLE RPM Damien, Some have stated that 1400 is OK, but I get way too much "chatter" in my gear box at that rpm, and I know that is not good for the gears in the gear box. I set my idle speed at 1800 because that is where my engine idles best. Some set theirs at 1600. I would recommend an idle speed in the range of 1700 to 1800 rpm. Hugh McKay Allegro 2000 Rotax 912 UL 380 hours From: Damien Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 8:48 AM To: rotaxengines-list@matronics.com Subject: RotaxEngines-List: IDLE RPM Hello. I need to set the idle speed on my Rotax 912 80HP. The maintenence manual states that the idle speed should be 1400 RPM. I have a mechanic friend who feels that would be too low. He is concerned about the gearbox. Any comments ? Damien Zodiac 601 HDS href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RotaxEngines-List">http://www. matronics.com/Navigator?RotaxEngines-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c


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    Time: 12:21:32 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: IDLE RPM
    From: "rampil" <ira.rampil@gmail.com>
    Check a recent manual and or (preferably both) Rotax Bulletins. Years ago idle was 1400 nominal. Field experience changed recommended setting to1800-2200 or thereabouts -------- Ira N224XS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306242#306242


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    Time: 12:34:32 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: IDLE RPM
    From: "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1@yahoo.com>
    Hi Damien, You can set the 80 hp rpm a little lower than the 100 hp Rotax because the compression is lower on the 80 hp. If you set the rpm too low on the 100 hp you start to bang away at your gearbox and it's the same for the 80 hp. Yes it will fly, but you will be doing a gearbox rebuild later as you build some hours. The 80 hp is better off for the gearbox sake at 1700-1800 rpm at idle. With the lower 80 hp compression you can get away with 1700 rpm for idle. 1400 rpm is just too low. I have a very slippery Flight Design CT and I can set in down in 1000' at 2800 rpm. So if someone says you can't set down a high drag aircraft at 1700-1800 rpm then I would have to say it's time for more training or more precision flying. I know I can do mine at 2800 because the guys in the UK challenged me. I typically leave some throttle in right to touchdown. makes landings smooth all the time. They said they had to be at 1500 rpm to land. It's all technique and not always what we want to blame it on. So I agree with Hugh and your mechanic. -------- Roger Lee Tucson, Az. Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated Rotax Repair Center 520-574-1080 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306244#306244


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    Time: 12:59:19 PM PST US
    From: "Damien" <dgraham7@TWCNY.RR.COM>
    Subject: Re: IDLE RPM
    Thanks for all the helpful responses. Regards, Damien DO NOT ARCHIVE ----- Original Message ----- From: Damien To: rotaxengines-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 8:48 AM Subject: RotaxEngines-List: IDLE RPM Hello. I need to set the idle speed on my Rotax 912 80HP. The maintenence manual states that the idle speed should be 1400 RPM. I have a mechanic friend who feels that would be too low. He is concerned about the gearbox. Any comments ? Damien Zodiac 601 HDS


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    Time: 01:07:28 PM PST US
    From: "Joel M." <dirtfly7@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: IDLE RPM
    Brake pads are cheaper than gearboxes. Joel --- On Sun, 7/25/10, Roger Lee <ssadiver1@yahoo.com> wrote: From: Roger Lee <ssadiver1@yahoo.com> Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: IDLE RPM Hi Damien, You can set the 80 hp rpm a little lower than the 100 hp Rotax because the compression is lower on the 80 hp. If you set the rpm too low on the 100 hp you start to bang away at your gearbox and it's the same for the 80 hp. Ye s it will fly, but you will be doing a gearbox rebuild later as you build s ome hours. The 80 hp is better off for the gearbox sake at 1700-1800 rpm at idle. With the lower 80 hp compression you can get away with 1700 rpm for idle. 1400 rpm is just too low. I have a very slippery Flight Design CT and I can set in down in 1000' at 2800 rpm. So if someone says you can't set d own a high drag aircraft at 1700-1800 rpm then I would have to say it's tim e for more training or more precision flying. I know I can do mine at 2800 because the guys in the UK challenged me. I typically leave some throttle i n right to touchdown. makes landings smooth all the time. They said they ha d to be at 1500 rpm to land. It's all technique and not always what we want to blame it o! n. So I agree with Hugh and your mechanic. -------- Roger Lee Tucson, Az. Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated Rotax Repair Center 520-574-1080 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306244#306244 le, List Admin.




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