---------------------------------------------------------- RotaxEngines-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 08/31/10: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:25 AM - LSA aircraft for sale ? (Catz631@aol.com) 2. 06:23 AM - Re: LSA aircraft for sale ? (Joel M.) 3. 06:45 AM - Re: Re: BRS chute repack time table (Richard Girard) 4. 08:04 AM - Re: LSA aircraft for sale ? (Ron Steele) 5. 11:50 AM - 582 rotary valve oil use (Guy Buchanan) 6. 01:22 PM - Re: 582 rotary valve oil use (Roger Lee) 7. 01:42 PM - Re: Re: 582 rotary valve oil use (Richard Girard) 8. 05:16 PM - Re: 582 rotary valve oil use (Roger Lee) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:25:09 AM PST US From: Catz631@aol.com Subject: RotaxEngines-List: LSA aircraft for sale ? Anyone know of an experimental/LSA for sale that would fit a 6ft 5 inch pilot ? A friend of mine is looking and he just missed two. A Rans S-6,S-12, Kolb mk 3 might fit the bill. Or ? His budget is around $30-35000 or so for a nice aircraft. He lives close to Ashville, NC so location would be important to go see the prospective aircraft. Rotax 912 is preferable. Thanks! Dick Maddux Milton,Fl ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:23:22 AM PST US From: "Joel M." Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: LSA aircraft for sale ? I knew a pilot that was 6ft 7" that flew a Rans S-7. --- On Tue, 8/31/10, Catz631@aol.com wrote: From: Catz631@aol.com Subject: RotaxEngines-List: LSA aircraft for sale ? =0A =0AAnyone know of an experimental/LSA for sale that would fit a 6ft 5 i nch pilot ? A friend of mine is looking and he just missed two. A Rans S-6, S-12, Kolb mk 3 might fit the bill. Or ?=0A-His budget is around $30-3500 0 or so for a nice aircraft. He lives close to Ashville, NC so location wou ld be important to go see the prospective aircraft. Rotax 912 is preferable .=0A------- Thanks!=0A------------- --------------- Dick Maddux=0A----- ----------------------- Milto n,Fl=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:45:39 AM PST US Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: Re: BRS chute repack time table From: Richard Girard Paul, Roger, et al, This will be my last post on this thread, I promise. If I had to pick a story that proves my point that having a BRS is conducive to an unsafe attitude, this would be it. Even using this incident, which I find extremely dubious since 60+ knots, as stated, is 1.5X the factory published Vne for the aircraft, as a pretext to justify anything is, frankly, stupid. So far all the defense of the BRS has taken this tack. Freedom from stupidity, from being responsible, from being safe, from following the FAR's, from having your head in the upright and locked position. All I have to do is pull the magic handle and everything will be ducky. La la la la la....... Paul, if this is truly an example of how you approach decision making, you should very seriously think of getting into another activity, for your own good and those of us who will have to pick up the pieces. Now, to get back to a forum topic, can someone speculate as to why my 582-90 is using oil from the rotary valve reservoir? I've checked for leaks, made sure the plumbing is correct and looked over the factory drawings in the IPC. I can't account for the engine using enough oil for the reservoir to go from max to min in about 4 hours. I'm using up the last of the Pennzoil Air Cooled that I bought at Lockwood when I took the Rotax courses in 2007. Ideas? In answering kindly change the subject title so any answer won't go into the archives under the BRS discussion. There, I've attempted to do as so many, like Thom Riddle, have asked and steer us back to the forum raison d'etre. Cheers, Rick On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 11:58 PM, Paul Kuntz wrote: > OK, I'll contribute to the thread, since it's still kicking along. > > I'm building a Pipistrel Sinus motorglider (see > http://www.pipistrelbuilders.com ) that will have a ballistic chute > installed. When I visited the Pipistrel factory in Slovenia, I asked if > their chute installation had ever been involved in a save. There has been > one instance, involving a high-time glider pilot soaring his fairly new > Pipistrel over the Alps. When he was done for the day and ready to head > back home, he wasn't paying close attention, and did what he was used to > doing -- he put the nose down and pointed it toward the airport. It's a > pretty clean airplane, so it quickly went to what they later estimated was > 60+ knots over VNE. The wings fluttered and came off the airplane. The > fuselage then pitched forward and went inverted, at which point he pulled > the handle and fired the chute in about the worst possible attitude. That > is, he fired the chute pretty much directly against the aircraft's velocity > vector at very high speed. It worked as advertised and the pilot and > passenger walked away. Convinced me. > > Regards, > Paul Kuntz > > On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 10:23 PM, Roger Lee wrote: > >> > >> >> Hi All, >> >> Any equipment is only as useful, practical and and safe as the operator. >> The rockets don't explode in a fire, they are a solid propellant and if it's >> that bad a fire your toast any way so that isn't a real consideration. When >> to use it isn't about practice, but education on when and how to use it. You >> can practice your muscle memory on grabbing the handle in case of a true >> emergency. Plus nothing else to practice sense you have nothing to do, but >> float to the ground. No accidental firings since it takes almost 35 lbs. of >> pull to activate it. Plus the handle can come out of the socket about an >> inch before the cable goes taught. You have to tell the families of the >> Zenith (6) aircraft that had wing failure that they weren't a good idea or >> the other saves they have actually had around the world. I bet everyone of >> those Zenith pilots were thinking nothing wrong with my plane. Tell it to >> the pilot just recently at that air show that lost a wing and floated safely >> to the ground. W! >> hat about the other mornon that runs into you while you are minding you >> own business? Or after the mechanic forgets to install something. Part >> failure in experimental's is a big cause of failures. >> I guess my whole point is what ever the cause of a failure may not be by >> your hand or it may be because you were complacent or you just overlooked >> something. What we don't know can hurt us, regardless of the old saying that >> it can't hurt us. >> Your right that you'll never need it, until that one time and no one >> anywhere can predict that. I came within 50' of a midair two years ago from >> an idiot not using his radio and trying to cut in front of two planes >> already in the pattern. To me there are no cons only pros and that view >> point comes from research and education and no myths, but facts. >> As a retired fireman I can't tell you how many thousands of times I have >> heard, "Well that has never happened to me before". Wish I had a dollar for >> each time I heard that statement and every time they said it they dialed >> 911. Being a victim is easy, keeping from being one takes some fore thought. >> >> I know there are two sides of the fence I just want to be on the side that >> lives when I fall off. >> >> >> -------- >> Roger Lee >> Tucson, Az. >> Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated >> Rotax Repair Center >> 520-574-1080 >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=310452#310452 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ========== >> >> ngines-List" target="_blank"> >> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RotaxEngines-List >> ========== >> http://forums.matronics.com >> ========== >> le, List Admin. >> ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> ========== >> >> >> >> > * > > * > > -- Zulu Delta Kolb Mk IIIC 582 Gray head 4.00 C gearbox 3 blade WD Thanks, Homer GBYM It is not bigotry to be certain we are right; but it is bigotry to be unable to imagine how we might possibly have gone wrong. - G.K. Chesterton ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:04:32 AM PST US From: Ron Steele Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: LSA aircraft for sale ? I'm 6'9" and I'm building a Zenith 650 (started as 601). The 650 has more head room. If you look at barnstormers, I think all of them have the upgrade, which adds about 22lbs of aluminum and results in a very strong plane. I choose the 601 buy walking around Sun-n-Fun and looking for an LSA I could fit in. The Remos and CTSL and SportCruiser were close but not there, and were out of my price range anyway. I took flying lessons in a Tecnam Echo Super. Very tight, but doable. Someone 6'5" might actually be comfortable, than the plane has a 600lb useful load. It's the plane I'd buy if I could afford it. Sitting height/leg length is more indicative than just height when right at the edge. On 08/31/2010 08:23 AM, Catz631@aol.com wrote: > Anyone know of an experimental/LSA for sale that would fit a 6ft 5 > inch pilot ? A friend of mine is looking and he just missed two. A > Rans S-6,S-12, Kolb mk 3 might fit the bill. Or ? > His budget is around $30-35000 or so for a nice aircraft. He lives > close to Ashville, NC so location would be important to go see the > prospective aircraft. Rotax 912 is preferable. > Thanks! > Dick Maddux > Milton,Fl > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:50:05 AM PST US From: Guy Buchanan Subject: RotaxEngines-List: 582 rotary valve oil use At 06:44 AM 8/31/2010, you wrote: >Now, to get back to a forum topic, can someone speculate as to why >my 582-90 is using oil from the rotary valve reservoir? I've checked >for leaks, made sure the plumbing is correct and looked over the >factory drawings in the IPC. I can't account for the engine using >enough oil for the reservoir to go from max to min in about 4 hours. >I'm using up the last of the Pennzoil Air Cooled that I bought at >Lockwood when I took the Rotax courses in 2007. Ideas? In answering >kindly change the subject title so any answer won't go into the >archives under the BRS discussion. Normally the oil migrates to the coolant, or vice versa. It sounds like you've failed your rotary valve seal. Guy Buchanan San Diego, CA K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 500 hrs. and counting ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:22:00 PM PST US Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: 582 rotary valve oil use From: "Roger Lee" It does sound like a seal. The oil can only go so many places. It either is going where it is supposed to and if you know that's not happening then the oil thing left are seals or leaks where it isn't supposed to go. Are you getting any more oil deposits where they shouldn't be? -------- Roger Lee Tucson, Az. Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated Rotax Repair Center 520-574-1080 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=310845#310845 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:42:19 PM PST US Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: Re: 582 rotary valve oil use From: Richard Girard Nothing I can find. I checked the coolant, no evidence of it there. The only I can think of is that it's going into the combustion chambers and the plugs do seem a little dark, but there's no effect on starting or running. More searching, I guess. Thanks guys. Rick On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Roger Lee wrote: > > It does sound like a seal. The oil can only go so many places. It either is > going where it is supposed to and if you know that's not happening then the > oil thing left are seals or leaks where it isn't supposed to go. Are you > getting any more oil deposits where they shouldn't be? > > -------- > Roger Lee > Tucson, Az. > Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated > Rotax Repair Center > 520-574-1080 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=310845#310845 > > -- Zulu Delta Kolb Mk IIIC 582 Gray head 4.00 C gearbox 3 blade WD Thanks, Homer GBYM It is not bigotry to be certain we are right; but it is bigotry to be unable to imagine how we might possibly have gone wrong. - G.K. Chesterton ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:16:14 PM PST US Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: 582 rotary valve oil use From: "Roger Lee" Any extra soot or oil in the exhaust? -------- Roger Lee Tucson, Az. 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