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Thu 09/09/10


Total Messages Posted: 18



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     1. 05:09 AM - Re: Re: Carb rebuild - Xtra credit question (GRAHAM SINGLETON)
     2. 12:24 PM - Re-registration quirk for E-LSA (Richard Girard)
     3. 12:41 PM - Re: Re-registration quirk for E-LSA (Ivan)
     4. 01:08 PM - Re: Re-registration quirk for E-LSA (Bob Comperini)
     5. 01:17 PM - Re: Re-registration quirk for E-LSA (Roger Lee)
     6. 01:22 PM - Re: Re-registration quirk for E-LSA (Roger Lee)
     7. 02:38 PM - Re: Re: Re-registration quirk for E-LSA (Blumax008@aol.com)
     8. 02:38 PM - Re: Re-registration quirk for E-LSA (Bob Comperini)
     9. 02:40 PM - Re: Re: Re-registration quirk for E-LSA (Ivan)
    10. 05:00 PM - Re: Re-registration quirk for E-LSA (Roger Lee)
    11. 05:22 PM - Re: Re: Re-registration quirk for E-LSA (Ivan)
    12. 05:39 PM - FAA Notice on re-registration (Richard Girard)
    13. 06:50 PM - Follow up on registration information (Richard Girard)
    14. 08:45 PM - Re: Follow up on registration information (Roger Lee)
    15. 08:47 PM - Re: Follow up on registration information (Bob Comperini)
    16. 10:04 PM - Re: Re: Follow up on registration information (Richard Girard)
    17. 10:06 PM - Re: Follow up on registration information (Richard Girard)
    18. 11:03 PM - Re: Follow up on registration information (Bob Comperini)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:09:07 AM PST US
    From: GRAHAM SINGLETON <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: Carb rebuild - Xtra credit question
    Roger=0AI couldn't agree more! Very tedious having to scroll a long way, es pecially when =0Asome are "top headers" and some "Bottom"=0AGraham=0A=0A=0A =0A=0A________________________________=0A=0A--> RotaxEngines-List message p osted by: "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1@yahoo.com>=0A=0AHi Guys,=0A=0ADon't use th e "Quote" tab at the top of each post. This just adds to the length =0Aof t he your post and makes reading and scrolling through the thread very long. =0A=0AHow about using the "Post Reply" tab at the top or the bottom of the page. It =0Awon't quote the entire thread every time and then make everyone read through =0Avery long post.=0A=0A--------=0ARoger Lee


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    Time: 12:24:47 PM PST US
    Subject: Re-registration quirk for E-LSA
    From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
    The new requirement to re-register an aircraft every three years has extremely important implications if your airplane flies on an Experimental Light Sport Aircraft airworthiness certificate. It does not matter is you registered your fat ultralight using the provisions of FAR 21-191 i(1) or if you demoted your S-LSA per 21.191 i(3). If you have an E-LSA and you fail to re-register and let the registration expire, there is *NO WAY* to re-register your aircraft. 21.191 i(1) has expired as of January 31st of this year and demoting an S-LSA using 21.191 i(3) is a one way street. Once an S-LSA is demoted it cannot then be registered as an S-LSA and demoted again. Bottom line is, if you have an E-LSA do not miss re-registering your aircraft or it will be the most expensive $5 you never spent. Rick Girard -- Zulu Delta Kolb Mk IIIC 582 Gray head 4.00 C gearbox 3 blade WD Thanks, Homer GBYM It is not bigotry to be certain we are right; but it is bigotry to be unable to imagine how we might possibly have gone wrong. - G.K. Chesterton


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    Time: 12:41:07 PM PST US
    From: "Ivan" <imap8ntr@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Re-registration quirk for E-LSA
    Rick, Never heard about this re-registering every three years. Is this only for E-LSA or for both that and S-LSA? I think it has always been a one way street that if an S-LSA is demoted to and E-LSA than it can never go back but still never heard about re-registering? Thanks Ivan ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Girard To: kolb-list@matronics.com ; rotaxengines-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 12:20 PM Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re-registration quirk for E-LSA The new requirement to re-register an aircraft every three years has extremely important implications if your airplane flies on an Experimental Light Sport Aircraft airworthiness certificate. It does not matter is you registered your fat ultralight using the provisions of FAR 21-191 i(1) or if you demoted your S-LSA per 21.191 i(3). If you have an E-LSA and you fail to re-register and let the registration expire, there is NO WAY to re-register your aircraft. 21.191 i(1) has expired as of January 31st of this year and demoting an S-LSA using 21.191 i(3) is a one way street. Once an S-LSA is demoted it cannot then be registered as an S-LSA and demoted again. Bottom line is, if you have an E-LSA do not miss re-registering your aircraft or it will be the most expensive $5 you never spent. Rick Girard -- Zulu Delta Kolb Mk IIIC 582 Gray head 4.00 C gearbox 3 blade WD Thanks, Homer GBYM It is not bigotry to be certain we are right; but it is bigotry to be unable to imagine how we might possibly have gone wrong. - G.K. Chesterton


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    Time: 01:08:06 PM PST US
    From: Bob Comperini <bob@fly-ul.com>
    Subject: Re: Re-registration quirk for E-LSA
    On 12:38 PM 9/9/2010, Ivan wrote: >Rick, >Never heard about this re-registering every three years. Is this only for E-LSA or for both that and S-LSA? I think it has always been a one way street that if an S-LSA is demoted to and E-LSA than it can never go back but still never heard about re-registering? Info here: http://www.faa.gov/licenses_certificates/aircraft_certification/aircraft_registry/reregistration/ Its for all aircraft (this ain't just a light-sport thing). Also, yes, it is possible and legal to convert a previously "demoted" S-LSA, now an E-LSA, back into the S-LSA category. I doubt you'll ever see that happen, because the manufacturer would need to once again "certify" that your aircraft meets all the standards. No manufacturer will want to take on that responsibility/liability. So, legally, its not a one way street, but in all practicality, it kind of is. -- Bob Comperini e-mail: bob@fly-ul.com WWW: http://www.fly-ul.com


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    Time: 01:17:52 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Re-registration quirk for E-LSA
    From: "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1@yahoo.com>
    This new 3 year registration is for all aircraft, not just LSA. It starts this November and is spread out over the next three years and then it will continue to re-cycle. It goes by months for when you registered the first time and the year you did it has nothing to do with anything. . I have already seen one letter. You should get a letter in the mail from the FAA when you are do provided you didn't lie to them to start with about who and where your plane was registered. If you know your aircraft registration is not correct get it done and the sooner the better. The letter said do nothing if the info was correct in that letter. If it is wrong you must send the corrected info back to the FAA. If you fail to do this you will have your registration canceled. There is a grace period in the letter, do not let it expire! There is a cost which has not been fully settled on yet. Some where between $45 and up from what I hear. A reminder - that this new FAA Aircraft RE-REGISTRATION THING starts as early as this November 1st (2010). Aircraft with a MARCH REGISTRATION DATE (any year) are the FIRST to RE-Register your aircraft. Your aircraft registration will expire on March 31st of 2011, but you can start the process of re-registering as early as this November 1st (2010). The data base needs a complete update US wide and this is the way it is being done. Over the next three years all aircraft will be re-registered. It will help get rid of many problems like what happened to the King's. -------- Roger Lee Tucson, Az. Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated Rotax Repair Center 520-574-1080 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=311956#311956 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/faa_registration_timetable_180.pdf


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    Time: 01:22:35 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Re-registration quirk for E-LSA
    From: "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1@yahoo.com>
    Hi Bob, Nice to hear from you again. Hi All, Bob is absolutely right about going back to SLSA from ELSA, it can be done, but the original MFG isn't going to sign it off back to SLSA because they don't know what you did to it when it was an ELSA and they aren't going to take that kind or liability on their shoulders. It is legal, but not likely. -------- Roger Lee Tucson, Az. Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated Rotax Repair Center 520-574-1080 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=311957#311957


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    Time: 02:38:44 PM PST US
    From: Blumax008@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Re-registration quirk for E-LSA
    OR, OR, OR....YOU CAN DO LIKE I DO...DON'T REGISTER THE SON OF A BITCH TO START WITH! ALL YOU GOODIE-TWO-SHOES HAVE AT IT! I'M LAUGHING MY ASS OFF AT ALL THIS BULLSHIT. GOOD FOR YOU! EAT IT UP! PAY THAT MONEY! OBAMA, PELOSI & REID NEED ALL THE MONEY YOU DINGBATS CAN THROW AT 'EM! WHAT A BUNCH OF IDIOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 In a message dated 9/9/2010 4:18:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ssadiver1@yahoo.com writes: --> RotaxEngines-List message posted by: "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1@yahoo.com> This new 3 year registration is for all aircraft, not just LSA. It starts this November and is spread out over the next three years and then it will continue to re-cycle. It goes by months for when you registered the first time and the year you did it has nothing to do with anything. . I have already seen one letter. You should get a letter in the mail from the FAA when you are do provided you didn't lie to them to start with about who and where your plane was registered. If you know your aircraft registration is not correct get it done and the sooner the better. The letter said do nothing if the info was correct in that letter. If it is wrong you must send the corrected info back to the FAA. If you fail to do this you will have your registration canceled. There is a grace period in the letter, do not let it expire! There is a cost which has not been fully settled on yet. Some where between $45 and up from what I hear. A reminder - that this new FAA Aircraft RE-REGISTRATION THING starts as early as this November 1st (2010). Aircraft with a MARCH REGISTRATION DATE (any year) are the FIRST to RE-Register your aircraft. Your aircraft registration will expire on March 31st of 2011, but you can start the process of re-registering as early as this November 1st (2010). The data base needs a complete update US wide and this is the way it is being done. Over the next three years all aircraft will be re-registered. It will help get rid of many problems like what happened to the King's. -------- Roger Lee Tucson, Az. Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated Rotax Repair Center 520-574-1080 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=311956#311956 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/faa_registration_timetable_180.pdf


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    Time: 02:38:45 PM PST US
    From: Bob Comperini <bob@fly-ul.com>
    Subject: Re: Re-registration quirk for E-LSA
    > The new requirement to re-register an aircraft every three years has extremely important > implications if your airplane flies on an Experimental Light Sport Aircraft airworthiness > certificate. It does not matter is you registered your fat ultralight using the > provisions of FAR 21-191 i(1) or if you demoted your S-LSA per 21.191 i(3). If you > have an E-LSA and you fail to re-register and let the registration expire, there is > NO WAY to re-register your aircraft. Ya know, I'm not sure about this "No way" comment. Your airworthiness certificate is not expiring, just the registration. Without a valid registration, the aircraft of course can't be flown, until the registration is current again (kind of along the lines that you can't fly it without a current annual), right? Yes, eventually, the FAA will cancel the N-Number, but there is a process (admittedly, a hassle) to get a new N-Number, or to reclaim your "old" one, which is not much different than changing the N-Number on a plane. But the bottom line is that big hassles will come your way, if you ignore the re-registration thing. So yes, everyone needs to "comply" -- Bob Comperini e-mail: bob@fly-ul.com WWW: http://www.fly-ul.com


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    Time: 02:40:01 PM PST US
    From: "Ivan" <imap8ntr@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Re-registration quirk for E-LSA
    Thanks Roger. Now I see. It is only to update the FAA database and will not require us to re-register our aircraft EVERY three year period. Silly me. Thanks Ivan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1@yahoo.com> Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 1:15 PM Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Re-registration quirk for E-LSA > > This new 3 year registration is for all aircraft, not just LSA. It starts > this November and is spread out over the next three years and then it will > continue to re-cycle. It goes by months for when you registered the first > time and the year you did it has nothing to do with anything. . I have > already seen one letter. You should get a letter in the mail from the FAA > when you are do provided you didn't lie to them to start with about who > and where your plane was registered. If you know your aircraft > registration is not correct get it done and the sooner the better. The > letter said do nothing if the info was correct in that letter. If it is > wrong you must send the corrected info back to the FAA. If you fail to do > this you will have your registration canceled. There is a grace period in > the letter, do not let it expire! > There is a cost which has not been fully settled on yet. Some where > between $45 and up from what I hear. > > A reminder - > that this new FAA Aircraft RE-REGISTRATION THING starts as early as this > November 1st (2010). Aircraft with a MARCH REGISTRATION DATE (any year) > are the FIRST to RE-Register your aircraft. Your aircraft registration > will expire on March 31st of 2011, but you can start the process of > re-registering as early as this November 1st (2010). > > > The data base needs a complete update US wide and this is the way it is > being done. Over the next three years all aircraft will be re-registered. > It will help get rid of many problems like what happened to the King's. > > -------- > Roger Lee > Tucson, Az. > Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated > Rotax Repair Center > 520-574-1080 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=311956#311956 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/faa_registration_timetable_180.pdf > > >


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    Time: 05:00:34 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Re-registration quirk for E-LSA
    From: "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1@yahoo.com>
    Hi Ivan, I might have not phrased it well. We will all be in a three year continuous cycle and it starts this November. Every three years you will need to update the info for your plane. This is sort of like paying for your car's license plates every year, it's just that the plane's will be every three years. As it stands right now and provided it doesn't change and we all know it could, if the info in your letter is all correct then you don't need to do anything. If there is any discrepancy, i.e. wrong address, then you send the letter back in with the correction. Maybe you sold the plane and the paperwork on the other person's end got messed up or the seller didn't report the sale, or the plane is trash, who knows, but they are trying to do a better job in keeping up a more current and accurate database. I really don't blame them for trying not to be so screwed up in their database. They have never done anything like this so it will be a major eye opener. -------- Roger Lee Tucson, Az. Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated Rotax Repair Center 520-574-1080 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=311976#311976


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    Time: 05:22:00 PM PST US
    From: "Ivan" <imap8ntr@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Re-registration quirk for E-LSA
    Hi Roger Thanks for your explanation. This has all been new to me. I am glad I am the original owner of my plane. :) Just as a funny aside: I got a letter a couple of months ago from the FAA asking me to check if all the info was correct. (My plane is registered in May.) It was funny because all was correct except that my name was spelled incorrectly in the letter. On all my FAA docs and also in the FAA database online my name is spelled correctly. I hope this dumb goof is not a warning of the poor diligence to come. When I renewed my passport the government could not find it. After much detective work I found out that they put my first name in as BOTH my first and last name and thus could not find it in their database. This inconsitent quality of work by the governement databases really concerns me and I hope this doesnt become a fiasco. Hopefully, Ivan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1@yahoo.com> Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 4:58 PM Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Re-registration quirk for E-LSA > > Hi Ivan, > > I might have not phrased it well. We will all be in a three year > continuous cycle and it starts this November. Every three years you will > need to update the info for your plane. This is sort of like paying for > your car's license plates every year, it's just that the plane's will be > every three years. As it stands right now and provided it doesn't change > and we all know it could, if the info in your letter is all correct then > you don't need to do anything. If there is any discrepancy, i.e. wrong > address, then you send the letter back in with the correction. Maybe you > sold the plane and the paperwork on the other person's end got messed up > or the seller didn't report the sale, or the plane is trash, who knows, > but they are trying to do a better job in keeping up a more current and > accurate database. > I really don't blame them for trying not to be so screwed up in their > database. They have never done anything like this so it will be a major > eye opener. > > -------- > Roger Lee > Tucson, Az. > Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated > Rotax Repair Center > 520-574-1080 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=311976#311976 > > >


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    Time: 05:39:23 PM PST US
    Subject: FAA Notice on re-registration
    From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
    FAA Safety Team | Safer Skies Through Education *Re-Registration/Renewal of Aircraft Registration* Notice Number: NOTC2543 On July 20, 2010 the FAA issued a Final Rule for Re-Registration and Renewa l of Aircraft Registration. This final rule amends the FAA=92s regulations 14 CFR Parts 47 and 91 concerning aircraft registration. Over a 3-year period, this rule will terminate the registration of all aircraft registered before October 1, 2010, and will require the *re-registration of each aircraft to retain U.S. civil aircraft status.* These new regulations also establish a system for a 3-year recurrent expiration and renewal of registration for al l aircraft issued registration certificates on or after October 1, 2010. The re-registration will be conducted on a rolling basis beginning with all registration certificates issued in March of any year. Failure to re-register your aircraft will result in your registration (N-Number) to expire and make the aircraft ineligible to operate in the National Airspace System under any circumstances. See the attached notice for specific registration expiration dates. Here is the notice as it came out today. Unfortunately, the attached notice did not arrive with this email. Rick Girard Zulu Delta Kolb Mk IIIC 582 Gray head 4.00 C gearbox 3 blade WD Thanks, Homer GBYM It is not bigotry to be certain we are right; but it is bigotry to be unabl e to imagine how we might possibly have gone wrong. - G.K. Chesterton


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    Time: 06:50:39 PM PST US
    Subject: Follow up on registration information
    From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
    This is from FAA.gov Aircraft Certification: Light Sport Aircraft Registration - Print<http://www.faa.gov/licenses_certificates/aircraft_certification/ aircraft_registry/light_sport_aircraft/index.cfm?print=go> - Email<http://www.faa.gov/email_page/?title=Aircraft%20Certification% 3A%20Light%20Sport%20Aircraft%20Registration&pageurl=%2Flicenses%5Fcertif icates%2Faircraft%5Fcertification%2Faircraft%5Fregistry%2Flight%5Fsport%5Fa ircraft%2Findex%2Ecfm&sid=true> - | Updated: 1:24 pm ET August 20, 2010 *New Light-Sport Aircraft* If you purchased a newly manufactured Light-Sport aircraft that is to be certificated as - an experimental light-sport aircraft under 14 CFR 21.191(i)(2)<http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&sid=1 b98ca158af3f72ed4e1b105cee10c2c&rgn=div8&view=text&node=14:1.0.1.3.8. 8.11.14&idno=14> - a special light sport aircraft under 14 CFR 21.190<http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?&c=ecfr&tpl=/ecfrb rowse/Title14/14tab_02.tpl> Then you must provide the following: - Light-Sport Aircraft Manufacturer=91s Affidavit AC Form 8050-88A (02/08)<http://www.faa.gov/licenses_certificates/aircraft_certification/air craft_registry/media/8050-88a.pdf> (PDF, 56 KB), or its equivalent, completed by the light-sport aircraft manufacturer, unless previously submitted to the Registry by the manufacturer - Evidence of ownership from the manufacturer for the aircraft - An Aircraft Registration Application, AC Form 8050-1 - $5.00 registration fee *New Light-Sport Aircraft Manufactures* If you are the manufacturer of a new Light-Sport Aircraft that you will certificate as: - a special light-sport aircraft under 14 CFR 21.190<http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?&c=ecfr&tpl=/ecfrb rowse/Title14/14tab_02.tpl> - an experimental light-sport aircraft under Title 14 CFR 21.191(i)(1)<http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&sid=c e33d0e1fe74ee4ecd3d4ab5c863343e&rgn=div8&view=text&node=14:1.0.1.3.8. 8.11.14&idno=14> Then you must provide the following: - Light-Sport Aircraft Manufacturer=91s Affidavit AC Form 8050-88A (02/08)<http://www.faa.gov/licenses_certificates/aircraft_certification/air craft_registry/media/8050-88a.pdf> (PDF, 56 KB), or its equivalent, completed by the light-sport aircraft manufacturer, unless previously submitted to the Registry by the manufacturer - An Aircraft Registration Application, AC Form 8050-1 - $5.00 registration fee by check or money order made payable to the Federal Aviation Administration. Now you can see why failing to re-register your E-LSA is fatal. Form 8050-88A has been revised and now only offers two options, that the aircraf t meets FAR 21.190, or FAR 21.191 i (2). Rick Girard Zulu Delta Kolb Mk IIIC 582 Gray head 4.00 C gearbox 3 blade WD Thanks, Homer GBYM It is not bigotry to be certain we are right; but it is bigotry to be unabl e to imagine how we might possibly have gone wrong. - G.K. Chesterton


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    Time: 08:45:34 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Follow up on registration information
    From: "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1@yahoo.com>
    Hi Rick, I need to call Edsel Ford of the FAA tomorrow and get the top of the food chain FAA answer. This one really needs clearing up for all the guys with the Ultralights that converted to ELSA. -------- Roger Lee Tucson, Az. Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated Rotax Repair Center 520-574-1080 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=311995#311995


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    Time: 08:47:01 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Follow up on registration information
    From: Bob Comperini <bob@fly-ul.com>
    On Sep 9, 2010, at 6:45 PM, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com> wrote: > > Now you can see why failing to re-register your E-LSA is fatal. Form 8050- 88A has been revised and now only offers two options, that the aircraft meet s FAR 21.190, or FAR 21.191 i (2). > > Rick Girard That form is for initial airworthiness but I don't think it's used for the three year renewals.


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    Time: 10:04:56 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Follow up on registration information
    From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
    Roger, That's where my info came from. The only thing I can't figure out is why the registration info that was updated in August still references 21.191 i(1) which has expried. Bottom line is still, don't fail to re-register. Rick On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 10:42 PM, Roger Lee <ssadiver1@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Hi Rick, > > I need to call Edsel Ford of the FAA tomorrow and get the top of the food > chain FAA answer. This one really needs clearing up for all the guys with > the Ultralights that converted to ELSA. > > -------- > Roger Lee > Tucson, Az. > Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated > Rotax Repair Center > 520-574-1080 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=311995#311995 > > -- Zulu Delta Kolb Mk IIIC 582 Gray head 4.00 C gearbox 3 blade WD Thanks, Homer GBYM It is not bigotry to be certain we are right; but it is bigotry to be unable to imagine how we might possibly have gone wrong. - G.K. Chesterton


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    Time: 10:06:50 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Follow up on registration information
    From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
    True. My point is, if you fail to re-register, this is the paperwork that will make it impossible to get back in. Rick On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 10:43 PM, Bob Comperini <bob@fly-ul.com> wrote: > > > On Sep 9, 2010, at 6:45 PM, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Now you can see why failing to re-register your E-LSA is fatal. Form > 8050-88A has been revised and now only offers two options, that the aircraft > meets FAR 21.190, or FAR 21.191 i (2). > > Rick Girard > > > That form is for initial airworthiness but I don't think it's > used for the three year renewals. > > * > > * > > -- Zulu Delta Kolb Mk IIIC 582 Gray head 4.00 C gearbox 3 blade WD Thanks, Homer GBYM It is not bigotry to be certain we are right; but it is bigotry to be unable to imagine how we might possibly have gone wrong. - G.K. Chesterton


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    Time: 11:03:41 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Follow up on registration information
    From: Bob Comperini <bob@fly-ul.com>
    No. I disagree. I allege thato the 8050-88 is not used again. That is not a " registration application". -- Bob Comperini On Sep 9, 2010, at 10:04 PM, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com> wrote: > True. My point is, if you fail to re-register, this is the paperwork that w ill make it impossible to get back in. > > Rick > > On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 10:43 PM, Bob Comperini <bob@fly-ul.com> wrote: > > > On Sep 9, 2010, at 6:45 PM, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Now you can see why failing to re-register your E-LSA is fatal. Form 8050 -88A has been revised and now only offers two options, that the aircraft mee ts FAR 21.190, or FAR 21.191 i (2). >> >> Rick Girard > > That form is for initial airworthiness but I don't think it's > used for the three year renewals. > > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > > > > -- > Zulu Delta > Kolb Mk IIIC > 582 Gray head > 4.00 C gearbox > 3 blade WD > Thanks, Homer GBYM > > It is not bigotry to be certain we are right; but it is bigotry to be unab le to imagine how we might possibly have gone wrong. > - G.K. Chesterton > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= >




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