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1. 07:56 AM - Re: Follow up on registration information (Roger Lee)
2. 04:26 PM - Airworthiness Cert Received (ruruny@aol.com)
3. 07:23 PM - Re: Follow up on registration information (Bob Comperini)
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| Subject: | Re: Follow up on registration information |
VERY IMPORTANT POST AND ALL SHOULD TAKE HEAD.
Hi Rick,
I want to be the first one in line here to say you were absolutely right! Thank
You for finding this fine point as it will affect most people here.
Hi All,
I called the FAA and talked to Edsel Ford of the FAA. He is their top LSA person.
When you get your FAA re-registration letter make sure you take care of it in a
timely manner (you have almost 6 months), do not and I really mean do not let
it expire on its posted date. This will be painless and easy for most.
Here is the issue. If it goes past the posted date on the letter you will have
your "N" number suspended. Having an "N" number is a requirement to be airworthy.
Right now as it stands the FAA will at some point terminate your "N" number
if you allow this to happen. They are getting a legal reading on this as we
talk. The expiration of the letter may be the same as termination of your "N"
number, this is a gray area and legal is looking at it.
Here is the big issue. It will not be simple to get it back. If you came from the
fat Ultralight group and became ELSA your are dead in the water forever. You
can never get a "N" number again. If you are SLSA like some of us here you will
loose your airworthy cert and "N" number and will have to go through the entire
process of getting a new registration through FD USA, inspections, new number,
ect.... all over again. This will apply to all US aircraft GA and the like.
DO NOT LET THIS GO PAST THE LETTER'S DEAD LINE!
It will be the owners responsibility to make sure the FAA has your current info
like your address so you will receive your letter. This is in the FAR's now and
always has been. Now if you know that you have to re-register within a certain
time as posted in all the write ups about this re-registration and don't get
a letter then it would be extremely prudent to call them.
I ask and there are no "get out of jail free cards" here. If you allow your time
to expire your done.
This process won't be a big deal for the majority of the owners in aviation, but
their may be some that procrastinate or loose paperwork and forget. This won't
be a time in your life to do either.
Like to comedian says "Get'er Done".
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Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated
Rotax Repair Center
520-574-1080
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=312292#312292
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| Subject: | Airworthiness Cert Received |
To my friends on all the Matronics lists that have helped me in many ways
over the years.
Some of you I have met in person, so many that I have never met but have
been with me
through this project since 2002.
I just want to say thank you for the encouragement, help, sound advice, in
formation, photos, drawings, parts, ideas, techniques, web sites, lessons
learned, stories, debates, Scotchbrite advice,humor and especially the fr
iendships.
Many of you don't even know how much you've helped, but your contribution
and presence on the lists
have been a tremendous help.
Yesterday, I had my inspection completed and received my airworthiness cer
tificate. I'm surrounded by
many experienced pilots at Spadaro Airport in Long Island, NY to help me
through the next phase of this
adventure/dream/crazy idea. Thanks Matt Dralle for making it all happen he
re.
I especially want to thank these people from the lists.
Zenith-list- Zenith601 list- Zenith701801 list
Robert Pelland, Geoff Heap, George Race, Johann G(Iceland), Jon Croke,Chuc
k Deiterich, John Marzulli, Zed Smith, Larry Martin, Ben Haas, Gary Liming
, Tommy Walker, Larrt McFarland, Bud Spudis, Keith Ashcraft, Bill Naumuk,
Ben Rambler, Max Johnson, Ken Szewc, Gary Gower, David Downey, Mike Brown
, Frank Hinde, Scott Laughlin, Michel Therrien, Mark Townsend, Jeff Davids
on, Jay Bannister, Bill Steer, Craig Payne.
Kitfox-List
Noel Loveys
RotaxEngines-List
Roger Lee
Thom Riddle
Gilles Thesee
Ron Parigoris
Aeroelectric-List
Bob Nuckolls
Jeff Dalton
Vern Little
Brian K Unruh
Long Island, NY
http://www.701builder.com
Brian K Unruh
Long Island, NY
http://www.701builder.com
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| Subject: | Re: Follow up on registration information |
Roger Said:
>I called the FAA and talked to Edsel Ford of the FAA
and
>They are getting a legal reading on this as we talk. The expiration of the letter
may be the same as termination of your "N" number, this is a gray area and
legal is looking at it.
That's my whole point with this whole discussion. People shouldn't have to phone
Edsel Ford, to ask what their rules "really" say, or to get one FAA person's
interpretation, and we shouldn't have to hear things like "This is a gray area...
our legal people are working on it".
The FAA's own website does not support the position that "if you miss the deadline,
you will never be able to re-register again". In fact, the FAA site talks
about what to do if one's registration has expired (refers you to 47.31). 14
CFR 47.31 makes no mention of 8050-88A or any problems one might have with "getting
your registration current again". Yes, the FAA site does talk about one's
N-Numbers being cancelled after some amount of time (90 days? 6 months?), but
again, there is no mention made about any permanent ramifications, if some magic
date is missed.
The bottom line is that the FAA really needs to get their act together. They seem
to have problems writing regulations that have no gray areas, aren't vague,
or that don't conflict with another one of their regulations.
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