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1. 05:04 AM - Re: Follow up on registration information (Thom Riddle)
2. 12:07 PM - Re-registration and E-LSA (Lanny Fetterman)
3. 04:33 PM - Re-registration schedule (Richard Girard)
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Subject: | Re: Follow up on registration information |
I am coming to this discussion a bit late but will add my little bit to it.
1st) I agree that we should all conform to the FAA's requirements fore re-new-ing
our current registrations (not re-registering, or applying for a new registration)
in a timely manner. If we do that, then all the What-If questions are
moot.
2nd) It appears that some are confusing the Airworthiness Certificate with the
Registration certificate.
3rd)The registration certificate merely identifies the current owner of an aircraft.
None of the registration certificates I've had over the years have any information
other than the owner's name, address, the registration number (N-number),
manufacturer, model, serial number of the aircraft, ICAO number and the
issue date. There is nothing on the registration certificate itself that even
says it is in airplane or powered parachute or whatever!
4th) The Airworthiness Certificate tells us what sort of aircraft it is which in
some ways tells the world how it can be used (or not) and how it must be maintained
and inspected. White A/W certificates are for standard category and pink
are for all others. These A/W certificates identify the aircraft by registration
number (N-number), make and model, serial number and category, plus date
of issuance. It does not list DIRECTLY the name of the owner or any other information
that identifies the owner. That information is only referenced via the
N-number field.
5th) The A/W certificate is generally issued once and only once shortly after the
aircraft is manufactured or in the case of fat UL conversions, when it officially
becomes an aircraft. It is transfered with the aircraft from owner to owner.
I have a scanned image of the old Piper Cherokee I once was part owner of.
The issue date on that A/W certificate is 11/14/75 which is when the FAA blessed
it as legal to fly. It is the same piece of paper that has gone from owner
to owner of that airplane over the last 35 years and nothing on it has changed
in that time.
In Summary:
- The A/W certificate is what tells us what sort of aircraft it is and thereby
lets the world know by what standards it must be operated and maintained.
- The Registration certificate tells the world who is the current owner of the
aircraft.
- The FAA wants to make sure that they know who currently owns each of the aircraft
registered in the USA and purge their files of old and erroneous data, and
cover their costs of doing so with new registration fees. That is all they are
doing with the new process. No changes in the A/W certificates or certification
process here.
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x32
Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.
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Subject: | Re-registration and E-LSA |
When I hear re-registration will cost $5.00 I think, fine, sounds
reasonable to up date the FAA records. Then, when I hear it may go up
to $45.00 or higher, I think they are just trying to produce revenue,
after they have accomplished their original goal. Only time will
tell, what the fee will become. Oh well, if I have 20 years of
flying left, I will only have to renew six times. Lanny N598LF
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Subject: | Re-registration schedule |
While the link on the notice I posted last week didn't work, Carol Carpente
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of Rainbow Aviation was able to find it. Here's the official blurb from the
FAA and the schedule.
*WASHINGTON, D.C.* ' In an effort to create a more accurate aircraft
registration database, the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) is
requiring re-registration of all civil aircraft over the next three years
and renewal every three years after that.
The rule establishes specific expiration dates over a three-year period for
all aircraft registered before Oct. 1, 2010, and requires re-registration o
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those aircraft according to a specific schedule. All aircraft registration
certificates issued on or after Oct. 1, 2010 will be good for three years
with the expiration date clearly shown.
=93These improvements will give us more up-to-date registration data and
better information about the state of the aviation industry,=94 said FAA
Administrator Randy Babbitt.
Current regulations require owners to report the sale of an aircraft, the
scrapping or destruction of an aircraft, or a change in mailing address, bu
t
many owners have not complied with those requirements.
Re-registration of all U.S. civil aircraft by Dec. 31, 2013 will enhance th
e
database with current data derived from recent contact with aircraft owners
.
The new regulations also will ensure that aircraft owners give the FAA fres
h
information at least once every three years when they renew their
registration. The FAA will cancel the N-numbers of aircraft that are not
re-registered or renewed.
The schedule for re-registration and registration expiration is:
Re-registration and registration expirationCertificate issued (Any
year)Certificate
expiresRe-registration requiredMarchMarch 31, 2011Nov. 1, 2010'Jan. 31, 2
011
AprilJune 30, 2011Feb. 1'April 30, 2011MaySept. 30, 2011May 1' July 31,
2011
JuneDec. 31, 2011Aug. 1' Oct. 31, 2011JulyMarch 31, 2012Nov. 1, 2011'Ja
n.
31, 2012AugustJune 30, 2012Feb. 1' April 30, 2012SeptemberSept. 30, 2012M
ay
1' July 31, 2012OctoberDec. 31, 2012Aug. 1' Oct. 31, 2012NovemberMarch
31,
2013Nov. 1, 2012'Jan. 31, 2013DecemberJune 30, 2013Feb. 1' April 30, 20
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JanuarySept. 30, 2013May 1' July 31, 2013FebruaryDec. 31, 2013Aug. 1' O
ct.
31, 2013
The final rule can be found at:
http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/2010/2010-17572.htm
So, check your information online at FAA.gov so you know that it's all
current and get the date of issuance for your registration and you will kno
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when to start looking for your re-registration letter in the mail.
Rick Girard
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