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1. 05:30 AM - Re: The morgans (Thom Riddle)
2. 10:42 AM - Restarting a Stored 912ul (Ron Hoyt)
3. 02:22 PM - Re: Restarting a Stored 912ul (Richard Girard)
4. 02:27 PM - Re: Restarting a Stored 912ul (Richard Girard)
5. 03:50 PM - Kitfox Remote Oil Pressure Kit (John Fasching)
6. 06:53 PM - Re: Kitfox Remote Oil Pressure Kit (FLYaDIVE)
7. 07:11 PM - Re: Kitfox Remote Oil Pressure Kit (Roger Lee)
8. 07:11 PM - Re: Kitfox Remote Oil Pressure Kit (Ivan)
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Nothing like that received by me, unless it is in my Gmail spam filter, which I
quit reviewing several years ago because it works so well.
do not archive
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x32
Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.
Daniel Patrick Moynihan
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| Subject: | Restarting a Stored 912ul |
The engine ran fine when it was removed from the aircraft. It was
prepared for storage according to Rotax operating instructions about 4
years ago. I can't get it to restart when remounted on an aircraft.
There is fuel in the float bowls. The A and B mag switches ground the
mag circuits at the junction on the engine. The starter provides 250 rpm
and maximum fuel pressure around 5 psi. The throttle is at minimum and
the choke is on maximum.
The carburetor throats are dry after cranking the engine enough to get
50 psi of oil pressure. (The filters were removed)
I would like to verify that the ignition is working before I rebuild the
carburetors. Is there a safe/recommended way (Propeller avoidance) to
verify the spark at the plugs?
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| Subject: | Re: Restarting a Stored 912ul |
Ron, Yes there is. Get an inline ignition spark checker and plug it into a
spark plug wire between the wire and the plug. The checker has a nice bright
light and is easy to see in all but the brightest mid day sun. Harbor
Freight has them (pn 36258) as does Sears, Snap On, Matco, etc. HF sells
them for about $3. Snap on for about $20. The rest are some place in
between.
Rick Girard
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Ron Hoyt <rrh@rrhoyt.com> wrote:
>
> The engine ran fine when it was removed from the aircraft. It was prepared
> for storage according to Rotax operating instructions about 4 years ago. I
> can't get it to restart when remounted on an aircraft.
>
> There is fuel in the float bowls. The A and B mag switches ground the mag
> circuits at the junction on the engine. The starter provides 250 rpm and
> maximum fuel pressure around 5 psi. The throttle is at minimum and the choke
> is on maximum.
>
> The carburetor throats are dry after cranking the engine enough to get 50
> psi of oil pressure. (The filters were removed)
>
> I would like to verify that the ignition is working before I rebuild the
> carburetors. Is there a safe/recommended way (Propeller avoidance) to
> verify the spark at the plugs?
>
>
--
Zulu Delta
Kolb Mk IIIC
582 Gray head
4.00 C gearbox
3 blade WD
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It is not bigotry to be certain we are right; but it is bigotry to be unable
to imagine how we might possibly have gone wrong.
- G.K. Chesterton
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| Subject: | Re: Restarting a Stored 912ul |
Dang, hit the send button while my brain was in neutral. I did my 582 up
with misting oil and followed the directions for all the rest. The idle
passages in the carbs still plugged up with gelled fuel. Once they were
cleaned out the engine started and idled like a champ.
Rick
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ron, Yes there is. Get an inline ignition spark checker and plug it into a
> spark plug wire between the wire and the plug. The checker has a nice bright
> light and is easy to see in all but the brightest mid day sun. Harbor
> Freight has them (pn 36258) as does Sears, Snap On, Matco, etc. HF sells
> them for about $3. Snap on for about $20. The rest are some place in
> between.
>
> Rick Girard
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Ron Hoyt <rrh@rrhoyt.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> The engine ran fine when it was removed from the aircraft. It was prepared
>> for storage according to Rotax operating instructions about 4 years ago. I
>> can't get it to restart when remounted on an aircraft.
>>
>> There is fuel in the float bowls. The A and B mag switches ground the mag
>> circuits at the junction on the engine. The starter provides 250 rpm and
>> maximum fuel pressure around 5 psi. The throttle is at minimum and the choke
>> is on maximum.
>>
>> The carburetor throats are dry after cranking the engine enough to get 50
>> psi of oil pressure. (The filters were removed)
>>
>> I would like to verify that the ignition is working before I rebuild the
>> carburetors. Is there a safe/recommended way (Propeller avoidance) to
>> verify the spark at the plugs?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Zulu Delta
> Kolb Mk IIIC
> 582 Gray head
> 4.00 C gearbox
> 3 blade WD
> Thanks, Homer GBYM
>
> It is not bigotry to be certain we are right; but it is bigotry to be
> unable to imagine how we might possibly have gone wrong.
> - G.K. Chesterton
>
>
--
Zulu Delta
Kolb Mk IIIC
582 Gray head
4.00 C gearbox
3 blade WD
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It is not bigotry to be certain we are right; but it is bigotry to be unable
to imagine how we might possibly have gone wrong.
- G.K. Chesterton
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| Subject: | Kitfox Remote Oil Pressure Kit |
Here is my opinion. I just received an oil pressure sender remoting kit
for my Rotax 912ULS. It came but there's no sender...just a few nuts,
screws, a small piece of braided "wire" and a clamp for a sender, but no
sender. It does have a braded tube to connect the engine's outlet to the
remoted sender. But for $75 is gets my rating as as "rip off." Unless
you have so much money that you don't care what things cost, I'd
recommend you look elsewhere.
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox Remote Oil Pressure Kit |
Ya know John, I think you are 100% correct!
I have been reading here on the Rotax group for about three months and I'm
leaning more and more away from a Rotax.
There seams to be so many issues and Service Bulletins. I know they call
Lycoming, Lysorius and I even call them Lie-Coming. But it really looks
like the O-235 has it all over the Rotax. Too bad they are not water
cooled.
Years ago before I had a need for a Rotax type engine everyone was singing
their praise. Now the company has reached the same cost stage and lack of
quality stage as Lie-Coming. And it sure looks like they are
pricing themselves out of the market or at least trying to equal a market
that is quite over priced.
There is a business saying that seams to fit: "What got you hear won't keep
you here."
I'm still going to stick with this group because I want to learn a few
things. Or is it because everyone stops to watch an accident in slow
motion.
Barry
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 6:48 PM, John Fasching <n29cx@ridgeviewtel.us> wrote:
> Here is my opinion. I just received an oil pressure sender remoting kit
> for my Rotax 912ULS. It came but there's no sender...just a few nuts,
> screws, a small piece of braided "wire" and a clamp for a sender, but no
> sender. It does have a braded tube to connect the engine's outlet to the
> remoted sender. But for $75 is gets my rating as as "rip off." Unless you
> have so much money that you don't care what things cost, I'd recommend you
> look elsewhere.
>
>
> *
>
>
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Barry
"Chop'd Liver"
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox Remote Oil Pressure Kit |
Every engine company has SB's and the Rotax is no exception, but Rotax is usually
proactive and not reactive like others. They also cover their parts if need
be. They have a tremendous track record that Lycoming and Continental don't have
on an engine by engine basis and if maintained as per Rotax could out live
its owner. I have friends with experimental's that have over 3000 hrs and have
never done a thing to the engine. Can't do that very well with either of the
others especially if you use 100LL. With the shear number of engines produced
every year by Rotax it is no wonder they have become a world leader in light
aircraft engine manufacturing. Even the new twin engine Tecnam uses 2 Rotax engines
and that plane is a $450K plane. Why didn't Tecnam pick a Continental or
a Lycoming. Why are most light aircraft Mfg's around the world going to and using
Rotax. I don't think I would sell them too short. Rotax have been building
the 912 series engine since late 1989 and has boomed over the other engine Mfg's.
That didn't happen because they make a bad engine.
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Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated
Rotax Repair Center
Home 520-574-1080 TRY HOME FIRST
Cell 520349-7056
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox Remote Oil Pressure Kit |
Used to have a Rotax 912 and 582. I got tired of the voluminous SB
(lots of them to CYA) which caused us to have work done by a repairman
who had to purchase Rotax brand parts. The price started to jump so
much, and in my opinion the documentation was so poor not giving good
diagrams nor instructions, that my Cessna friend said I would not pay
those prices.
I switched to an australian engine and enjoy it, its reliability (as is
the Rotax), and its economical operation. That was one of the reasons
why when I considered an S-LSA i purposely did not want to get involved
with Rotax again. I was also unhappy with their support. I have been
happy with my alternative decision for the past 3.5 yrs and 273 hrs.
Just my opinion what worked for me,
Ivan
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From: FLYaDIVE
To: rotaxengines-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 6:49 PM
Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: Kitfox Remote Oil Pressure Kit
Ya know John, I think you are 100% correct!
I have been reading here on the Rotax group for about three months and
I'm leaning more and more away from a Rotax.
There seams to be so many issues and Service Bulletins. I know they
call Lycoming, Lysorius and I even call them Lie-Coming. But it really
looks like the O-235 has it all over the Rotax. Too bad they are not
water cooled.
Years ago before I had a need for a Rotax type engine everyone was
singing their praise. Now the company has reached the same cost stage
and lack of quality stage as Lie-Coming. And it sure looks like they
are pricing themselves out of the market or at least trying to equal a
market that is quite over priced.
There is a business saying that seams to fit: "What got you hear
won't keep you here."
I'm still going to stick with this group because I want to learn a few
things. Or is it because everyone stops to watch an accident in slow
motion.
Barry
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 6:48 PM, John Fasching <n29cx@ridgeviewtel.us>
wrote:
Here is my opinion. I just received an oil pressure sender remoting
kit for my Rotax 912ULS. It came but there's no sender...just a few
nuts, screws, a small piece of braided "wire" and a clamp for a sender,
but no sender. It does have a braded tube to connect the engine's outlet
to the remoted sender. But for $75 is gets my rating as as "rip off."
Unless you have so much money that you don't care what things cost, I'd
recommend you look elsewhere.
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