---------------------------------------------------------- RotaxEngines-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 11/21/10: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 0. 12:05 AM - Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published in December! (Matt Dralle) 1. 03:08 AM - Re: Rough running cured with carb heater (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=F3hann_J=F3hannsson?=) 2. 07:49 AM - Re: Rough running cured with carb heater (Noel Loveys) 3. 08:01 AM - Re: Rough running cured with carb heater (Noel Loveys) 4. 09:51 AM - Re: Rough running cured with carb heater (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=F3hann_J=F3hannsson?=) ________________________________ Message 0 _____________________________________ Time: 12:05:04 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published in December! Dear Listers, The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! 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Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:08:39 AM PST US From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=F3hann_J=F3hannsson?= Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: Rough running cured with carb heater Hello Chris. Can you send me your message again. I did not receive any text with it. Best regards, Johann G. Iceland. On 21.11.2010, at 01:20, Chris Blackmore wrote: > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:49:44 AM PST US From: "Noel Loveys" Subject: RE: RotaxEngines-List: Rough running cured with carb heater 40F no doubt about it you had carb ice which obstructed the flow of fuel. Let me guess your engine has an airbox feeding the carbs. Noel -----Original Message----- From: owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jhann Jhannsson Sent: November 20, 2010 3:04 PM Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Rough running cured with carb heater =?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=F3hann_J=F3hannsson?= Hello list members. I have a friend who has been having problems with the Rotax 912 UL in a Kitfox 3. When flying today in a temp. around 40F, the engine ran rough until he pulled the carb heat on. Ran very smooth and never as good. What do you think could cause this problem? We measured the carb levels and they are very similar. 1/8 of an inch. One carb was definitely running bad because the EGT dropped on one exhaust. No carb ice and the carbs have been rebuild. Any ideas? Johann G. Iceland. Zenith 701 Rotax 912UL. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:01:25 AM PST US From: "Noel Loveys" Subject: RE: RotaxEngines-List: Rough running cured with carb heater Apparently icing is mostly experienced with 912s which have the airbox. Engines with direct filtration almost never experience ice... go figure. Noel -----Original Message----- From: owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jhann Jhannsson Sent: November 20, 2010 7:55 PM Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: Rough running cured with carb heater =?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=F3hann_J=F3hannsson?= Thank you Gordon. I know my friend has a new air filter and the airbox does eliminate the cold air from the filter and only passes the hot air from the exhaust pipe. We will look at the mixture setting. Thanks again. Johann G. Iceland. On 20.11.2010, at 22:49, Gordon wrote: > > Carb heat bypasses the air filter, at least on most set-ups, so > maybe a clogged filter. > It also introduces warm air which is less dense, so it could be that > the mixture of one or both carbs is set to lean for the normal > (cold) air --my guess. > Gordon > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jhann Jhannsson" > > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 1:33 PM > Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Rough running cured with carb heater > > >> J=F3hann_J=F3hannsson?= >> >> Hello list members. >> >> I have a friend who has been having problems with the Rotax 912 UL >> in a Kitfox 3. When flying today in a temp. around 40F, the >> engine ran rough until he pulled the carb heat on. Ran very smooth >> and never as good. >> What do you think could cause this problem? We measured the carb >> levels and they are very similar. 1/8 of an inch. One carb was >> definitely running bad because the EGT dropped on one exhaust. >> No carb ice and the carbs have been rebuild. Any ideas? >> >> Johann G. >> Iceland. >> Zenith 701 >> Rotax 912UL. >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:51:06 AM PST US From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=F3hann_J=F3hannsson?= Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: Rough running cured with carb heater Hello all, Yes Noel, my friend has the airbox on his Kitfox. He did a few checks today as recommended by Roger and Gordon. Carbs were adjusted and balanced. The mixture on the jet needles/ needle jets were enriched and are now in the bottom groove on the needle. The diaphragm is properly installed and the propeller is set for the correct rpm. We even tried to remove the air hoses from the carbs to eliminate carb ice. No change. The engine runs fine on the low rpm but will not run smooth unless the carb heat is used. The needles are all standard as recommended by Rotax. Any more advice will be really appreciated, Best regards, Johann G. Iceland. On 21.11.2010, at 15:57, Noel Loveys wrote: > > > > Apparently icing is mostly experienced with 912s which have the > airbox. > Engines with direct filtration almost never experience ice... go > figure. > > Noel > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > Jhann > Jhannsson > Sent: November 20, 2010 7:55 PM > To: rotaxengines-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: Rough running cured with carb heater > > =?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=F3hann_J=F3hannsson?= > > Thank you Gordon. > I know my friend has a new air filter and the airbox does eliminate > the cold air from the filter and only passes the hot air from the > exhaust pipe. We will look at the mixture setting. > Thanks again. > > Johann G. > Iceland. > > > On 20.11.2010, at 22:49, Gordon wrote: > >> >> Carb heat bypasses the air filter, at least on most set-ups, so >> maybe a clogged filter. >> It also introduces warm air which is less dense, so it could be that >> the mixture of one or both carbs is set to lean for the normal >> (cold) air --my guess. >> Gordon >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jhann Jhannsson" > >> >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 1:33 PM >> Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Rough running cured with carb heater >> >> >>> J=F3hann_J=F3hannsson?= >>> >>> Hello list members. >>> >>> I have a friend who has been having problems with the Rotax 912 UL >>> in a Kitfox 3. When flying today in a temp. around 40F, the >>> engine ran rough until he pulled the carb heat on. Ran very smooth >>> and never as good. >>> What do you think could cause this problem? We measured the carb >>> levels and they are very similar. 1/8 of an inch. One carb was >>> definitely running bad because the EGT dropped on one exhaust. >>> No carb ice and the carbs have been rebuild. Any ideas? >>> >>> Johann G. >>> Iceland. >>> Zenith 701 >>> Rotax 912UL. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rotaxengines-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RotaxEngines-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rotaxengines-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rotaxengines-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.