RotaxEngines-List Digest Archive

Sun 01/30/11


Total Messages Posted: 9



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 06:21 AM - rumor I heard (Thom Riddle)
     2. 06:56 AM - Re: rumor I heard (Roger Lee)
     3. 07:58 AM - Re: Fw: Photo Booth (Thanks Edna) (FLYaDIVE)
     4. 09:58 AM - Re: rumor I heard (Roger Lee)
     5. 10:07 AM - Re: rumor I heard (Richard Girard)
     6. 11:25 AM - Re: rumor I heard (Thom Riddle)
     7. 01:13 PM - Re: rumor I heard (Roger Lee)
     8. 05:14 PM - Re: rumor I heard (FLYaDIVE)
     9. 09:55 PM - 914 partial power failure (john firth)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:21:51 AM PST US
    Subject: rumor I heard
    From: "Thom Riddle" <riddletr@gmail.com>
    This is directed to Roger Lee or anyone else who might know. I read the following on another list this morning and would like to know if there is any truth in this. THis is rumor until I see it. There is a kit coming out to reduce the compression ratio of the Rotax 912S from 10.1:1 to something lower. It is rumored that there will be bigger jugs and pistons to try to raise the displacement from just over 1300 CCs to something closer to our 2200 CCs. It will raise the HP from 98 to around 110 HP. More displacement= more torque and less need for high octane gas. -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY (9G0) Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Tennessee Prop 64x32 Don't accept your dog's admiration as conclusive evidence that you are wonderful. Ann Landers Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=328973#328973


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    Time: 06:56:36 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: rumor I heard
    From: "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1@yahoo.com>
    Hi Thom, I have not heard that, but I know just who to ask. I'll keep in touch. -------- Roger Lee Tucson, Az. Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated Rotax Repair Center Home 520-574-1080 TRY HOME FIRST Cell 520-349-7056 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=328977#328977


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    Time: 07:58:13 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fwd: Photo Booth (Thanks Edna)
    From: FLYaDIVE <flyadive@gmail.com>
    CUTE! CUTE AS HELL... I PISSED IN MY PANTS! FUNNY! On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 6:06 PM, <NYTerminat@aol.com> wrote: > > > ------------------------------ > *Subject:* *It's a tad long but it's made me laugh.... I'l bet you watch > it till the end. . . * > > > THIS IS REALLY CUTE!!!: > > > Click on below site.... > > http://www.wimp.com/photobooth > > > * > > * > >


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    Time: 09:58:08 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: rumor I heard
    From: "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1@yahoo.com>
    Hi Thom, Got my email back. Pure BS. Let them run with it and sit back and smile, it's all garbage. -------- Roger Lee Tucson, Az. Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated Rotax Repair Center Home 520-574-1080 TRY HOME FIRST Cell 520-349-7056 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=329001#329001


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    Time: 10:07:43 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: rumor I heard
    From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
    Thom, That's going to be some trick to accomplish. The bore of a 912 ULS is 84mm (3.31")and the stroke is 61mm (2.40"). Leaving the stroke alone, to ge t a displacement of 2200 cc the bore has to increase to 107mm (4.22"). I don' t think you can get there from here. Rick On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 8:19 AM, Thom Riddle <riddletr@gmail.com> wrote: m > > > > This is directed to Roger Lee or anyone else who might know. > > I read the following on another list this morning and would like to know if > there is any truth in this. > > THis is rumor until I see it. > > There is a kit coming out to reduce the compression ratio of the Rotax 91 2S > from > 10.1:1 to something lower. It is rumored that there will be bigger jugs > and > pistons to try to raise the displacement from just over 1300 CCs to > something > closer to our 2200 CCs. > > It will raise the HP from 98 to around 110 HP. > More displacement= more torque and less need for high octane gas. > > -------- > Thom Riddle > Buffalo, NY (9G0) > Kolb Slingshot SS-021 > Jabiru 2200A #1574 > Tennessee Prop 64x32 > > > Don't accept your dog's admiration as conclusive evidence that you are > wonderful.=94 > =97Ann Landers > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=328973#328973 > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx


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    Time: 11:25:09 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: rumor I heard
    From: "Thom Riddle" <riddletr@gmail.com>
    It did not sound like a reasonable modification to me either. However, some rumors are wild exaggerations with some element of truth, so I was interested to see if there was anything at all to it. The one mod/option I think we would all like to see is EFI. Any chance of THiS being in the works? Do not archive -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY (9G0) Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Tennessee Prop 64x32 Don't accept your dog's admiration as conclusive evidence that you are wonderful. Ann Landers Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=329006#329006


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    Time: 01:13:26 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: rumor I heard
    From: "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1@yahoo.com>
    EFI has been in the works for a couple of years. My guess it will be about a $6K option. It is part electronic and part mechanical from what I hear. I hope it comes out this year, but who knows for sure. -------- Roger Lee Tucson, Az. Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated Rotax Repair Center Home 520-574-1080 TRY HOME FIRST Cell 520-349-7056 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=329011#329011


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    Time: 05:14:31 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: rumor I heard
    From: FLYaDIVE <flyadive@gmail.com>
    Rick: Companies do some pretty stupid things but this sure sounds like a hoax. If you consider that 1300cc produces 98 HP that is .075HP per cc. With 2200cc @.075 HP/cc you would expect to see something like 165HP but figure something like 75% efficiency so that would be 124 HP. So, where do they get 112 HP? Kind of defeats the purpose? Why do ALL that changing and work for ONLY a 12 HP gain. It would make more sense to increase the compression to gain the HP. Example: a Lycomming went from 150 HP @ 7.5:1 to 160 HP @ 8:1. So there saw a gain of 6.25%. If Rotatx went up ONLY 6.25% that would be 104HP and if they went to 11:1 that would be 110 HP with ONLY a piston change. NOW, these are only paper numbers, there very well could be a greater increase. BUT! Could the cylinders handle it? Barry On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com> wrote : > Thom, That's going to be some trick to accomplish. The bore of a 912 ULS is > 84mm (3.31")and the stroke is 61mm (2.40"). Leaving the stroke alone, to get > a displacement of 2200 cc the bore has to increase to 107mm (4.22"). I do n't > think you can get there from here. > > Rick > > On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 8:19 AM, Thom Riddle <riddletr@gmail.com> wrote: > >> riddletr@gmail.com> >> >> This is directed to Roger Lee or anyone else who might know. >> >> I read the following on another list this morning and would like to know >> if there is any truth in this. >> >> THis is rumor until I see it. >> >> There is a kit coming out to reduce the compression ratio of the Rotax >> 912S from >> 10.1:1 to something lower. It is rumored that there will be bigger jugs >> and >> pistons to try to raise the displacement from just over 1300 CCs to >> something >> closer to our 2200 CCs. >> >> It will raise the HP from 98 to around 110 HP. >> More displacement= more torque and less need for high octane gas. >> >> -------- >> Thom Riddle >> Buffalo, NY (9G0) >> Kolb Slingshot SS-021 >> Jabiru 2200A #1574 >> Tennessee Prop 64x32 >> >> >> Don't accept your dog's admiration as conclusive evidence that you are >> wonderful.=94 >> =97Ann Landers >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=328973#328973 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ========== >> -List" target="_blank"> >> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RotaxEngines-List >> ========== >> http://forums.matronics.com >> ========== >> le, List Admin. >> ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> ========== >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Zulu Delta > Mk IIIC > Thanks, Homer GBYM > > It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhapp y. > - Groucho Marx > > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > >


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    Time: 09:55:01 PM PST US
    Subject: 914 partial power failure
    From: "john firth" <firth942@btinternet.com>
    Hello all, I have a 914 fitted to a mono wheel Europa. a couple of weeks ago I suffered a partial power failure on take off and had to land immediately. After changing the fuel filters and cleaning out the carbs she ran fine for three hours and five take offs and then failed again and now has symptom's on ground runs which are:- starts well and runs smooth till 2800ish rpm can be made to go to 5000plus but runs rough and mag drops 600 I have checked the following:- Replaced the whole fuel system except pumps, selector valve and tank fittings but removed and checked them all. Done Rotax fuel flow check at plus 0.5 bar simulated air box pressure giving 10psi fuel pressure and delivering 70litres/hour on each pump. Checked airbox pressure v fuel pressure when engine running 4psi Checked float bowls for dirt, blown out jets, checked needle valves and float level- all appear ok. Checked slide and diaphragm for leaks and smooth operation. Checked all small air pipes for leaks and blockage and carb mounting rubbers for splits. Checked plugs- all look OK with light brown deposits slightly white but am running Avgas at the moment. (she runs the same on Mogas) and swopped the top two plugs with each other at both sides. When run to 5000rpm, airbox pressure rises to 1.1b and fuel increases to 1,4b. TCU lights normal on power up and servo can be heard operating.I will check waste gate arm moving tomorrow. I could use some ideas from the wealth of experience out there. Regards, john. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=329052#329052




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