---------------------------------------------------------- RotaxEngines-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 07/18/11: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:04 AM - Re: New to the ultralight and Rotax world (lucien) 2. 05:20 PM - Re: New to the ultralight and Rotax world (xTrainwrecKx) 3. 05:53 PM - Re: Re: New to the ultralight and Rotax world (Ellery Batchelder Jr) 4. 08:04 PM - Re: Re: New to the ultralight and Rotax world (Jim_and_Lucy Chuk) 5. 10:39 PM - Re: New to the ultralight and Rotax world (xTrainwrecKx) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:04:22 AM PST US Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: New to the ultralight and Rotax world From: "lucien" xTrainwrecKx wrote: > Thank you very much for your help Sir, as I have fallen short trying to find anything on the 447. I just want to ensure the dependability is there, and support is around when I need it. > > Very respectfully, > Derek I'm with Arty on Lockwood. I've been buying engines and parts from them for years and they're pretty much the best source. As for the 447, it's one of the best engines Rotax makes. The only issues, if you can call them issue, are the relatively hot running and the single ignition. The 447 is essentially a suped-up 377 (the 447's now out of production descendent) so it doesn't have as much cooling fin area per power output as the 503. So the CHT's will climb past 350F in extended wide open operation. Just something to keep an eye on - my 447's never actually overheated, but I did back off the throttle as soon as I was at a safe altitude and didn't hold it to wall unless I had to. The single ignition, well, just be careful about the wiring - a short will shut it right down in flight. Don't ask me why I know this. Finally, the 447 is probably on the chopping block at Rotax, so it could go out of production at any time. Don't know what that means for parts support, but hopefully they'll continue to make parts for it for a while. Otherwise, it's a great motor and I loved mine when I had them... LS -------- LS Titan II SS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=346873#346873 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:20:04 PM PST US Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: New to the ultralight and Rotax world From: "xTrainwrecKx" Yeah.... I think I might opt to go to an electric start instead of the pull type, as I don't want to lose engine in flight and plummet to the earth. That is the only thing that worries me with the smaller engines. I am planning on doing a few longer flights and want to be sure it can be depended upon. There is always the chute! :) Derek Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=346960#346960 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/8minimax_1500r_101.jpg ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:53:11 PM PST US Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: Re: New to the ultralight and Rotax world From: Ellery Batchelder Jr I have had very good luck with the 447 Rotax I wore out a few of them with no issues just take care of it and it will take care of you, I think a ch ute is a waste of money unless you are flying something that will fall apa rt,or if you are doing aerobatic maneuvers , in normal flying conditions just because an engine quits is no reason to pull a chute Ellery Batchelder Jr. -----Original Message----- From: xTrainwrecKx Sent: Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:17 pm Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: New to the ultralight and Rotax world ail.com> Yeah.... I think I might opt to go to an electric start instead of the pul l ype, as I don't want to lose engine in flight and plummet to the earth. Th at is he only thing that worries me with the smaller engines. I am planning on doing few longer flights and want to be sure it can be depended upon. There is lways the chute! :) Derek ead this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=346960#346960 ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/8minimax_1500r_101.jpg -======================== ======================== =========== -= - The RotaxEngines-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RotaxEngines-List - -======================== ======================== =========== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== ======================== =========== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -======================== ======================== =========== ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:04:46 PM PST US From: Jim_and_Lucy Chuk Subject: RE: RotaxEngines-List: Re: New to the ultralight and Rotax world Electric start is nice=2C but then of course you are going to have a batter y=2C cables=2C ect which will add to the weight of the plane. With the sta ndard Rotax starter=2C it sticks about 5" out the back of the engine. What will be in the way on the Mini-max for that?? Another point is if a two s troke quits while in flight on it's own=2C it probably isn't going to start again very easy unless you have let it run out of fuel on one tank and you have fuel in another tank. Take care=2C Jim Chuk > Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: New to the ultralight and Rotax world > From: derek.brundage@gmail.com > Date: Mon=2C 18 Jul 2011 17:17:35 -0700 > To: rotaxengines-list@matronics.com > mail.com> > > Yeah.... I think I might opt to go to an electric start instead of the pu ll type=2C as I don't want to lose engine in flight and plummet to the eart h. That is the only thing that worries me with the smaller engines. I am pl anning on doing a few longer flights and want to be sure it can be depended upon. There is always the chute! :) > > Derek > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=346960#346960 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/8minimax_1500r_101.jpg > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:39:59 PM PST US Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: New to the ultralight and Rotax world From: "xTrainwrecKx" Hmmmm... lots to think about. I don't mind trying to guide the plane off power and wouldn't automatically pull the chute in haste, but it is good to have just in case while flying over the mountains in Vegas. This is my first U/L and I know I will take good care of both the plane and the engine. This 1500R is already equipped with a battery, just aft of the firewall. The firewall is also removable to access controls, etc without having to dig around in the cockpit. Now, as far where the starter motor would go... I will have to look at that. I thank you guys for all of the input and appreciate the learning points. Very respectfully, Derek Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=346997#346997 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rotaxengines-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RotaxEngines-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rotaxengines-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rotaxengines-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.