Today's Message Index:
----------------------
1. 10:05 AM - Re: 914 carb leak (rampil)
2. 10:21 AM - Re: Re: 914 carb leak (Pete Christensen)
3. 10:50 AM - Re: Re: 914 carb leak (william sullivan)
4. 01:15 PM - Re: Re: 914 carb leak (Kevin Klinefelter)
5. 03:28 PM - Re: Re: 914 carb leak (FLYaDIVE)
6. 04:01 PM - Re: Re: 914 carb leak (william sullivan)
7. 06:44 PM - Re: Re: 914 carb leak (FLYaDIVE)
8. 07:50 PM - Re: Re: 914 carb leak (william sullivan)
Message 1
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: 914 carb leak |
A brief note of caution - If Bing's gaskets are cork, they may not be
ethanol resistant.
Caveat Emptor
Ira, N224XS
--------
Ira N224XS
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353247#353247
Message 2
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: 914 carb leak |
I was told by the Bing Power Systems folks that the cork gaskets are
made for the spring type holder on the 912 carbs. The carbs with the
screw on holder use the other type gasket since they can be tightened
more. I'd be interested in knowing your source so I can do a bit of
research.
Pete
Kitfox III, 912
Leander, TX
On 9/26/2011 12:01 PM, rampil wrote:
> --> RotaxEngines-List message posted by: "rampil"<ira.rampil@gmail.com>
>
> A brief note of caution - If Bing's gaskets are cork, they may not be
> ethanol resistant.
>
> Caveat Emptor
>
> Ira, N224XS
>
> --------
> Ira N224XS
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353247#353247
>
>
Message 3
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: 914 carb leak |
- Also, NEVER use any form of RTV on a cork gasket.- It dissolves the r
ubber.
--- On Mon, 9/26/11, rampil <ira.rampil@gmail.com> wrote:
From: rampil <ira.rampil@gmail.com>
Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: 914 carb leak
A brief note of caution - If Bing's gaskets are cork, they may not be
ethanol resistant.
Caveat Emptor
Ira, N224XS
--------
Ira N224XS
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353247#353247
le, List Admin.
Message 4
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: 914 carb leak |
I have taken about 40 hrs of Rotax maint. classes with the folks at
Rotech in Vernon, B.C. They told us that they prefer to use the cork
carburator bowl gaskets over the paper ones for the 9-series Bings.
They also told us to be careful and torque the 914 bowl bolt to specs
and showed us the result of over torque, which can deform the bottom
of the bowl causing the brass rods that the floats ride up and down on
to splay outward and cause the floats to stick.
I have had my float bowls off a couple times and have not replaced the
paper gaskets yet.
No mention of incompatability with 10% ethanol.
I have had my float bowls off a couple times and have not replaced
the paper gaskets yet.
Kevin
XS Mono, 914 and Airmaster, 340 hrs
On 9/26/11, william sullivan <williamtsullivan@att.net> wrote:
> Also, NEVER use any form of RTV on a cork gasket. It dissolves the
> rubber.
>
> --- On Mon, 9/26/11, rampil <ira.rampil@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: rampil <ira.rampil@gmail.com>
> Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: 914 carb leak
> To: rotaxengines-list@matronics.com
> Date: Monday, September 26, 2011, 1:01 PM
>
>
> A brief note of caution - If Bing's gaskets are cork, they may not be
> ethanol resistant.
>
> Caveat Emptor
>
> Ira, N224XS
>
> --------
> Ira N224XS
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353247#353247
>
>
> le, List Admin.
>
>
Message 5
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: 914 carb leak |
RTV will NOT dissolve the rubber... GAS AvGas or MoGas will loosen the RTV.
Even RTV that is supposedly rated for Gas.
Barry
R.I.N.E.
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 1:47 PM, william sullivan
<williamtsullivan@att.net>wrote:
> Also, NEVER use any form of RTV on a cork gasket. It dissolves the
> rubber.
>
> --- On *Mon, 9/26/11, rampil <ira.rampil@gmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: rampil <ira.rampil@gmail.com>
> Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: 914 carb leak
> To: rotaxengines-list@matronics.com
> Date: Monday, September 26, 2011, 1:01 PM
>
> >
>
> A brief note of caution - If Bing's gaskets are cork, they may not be
> ethanol resistant.
>
> Caveat Emptor
>
> Ira, N224XS
>
> --------
> Ira N224XS
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RotaxEngines-List"
> target="_blank">http://ailable via the Web nbsp; -Matt
> matronics.com/contribution"
> target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/cont===============
>
>
> <http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353247#353247>
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
Message 6
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: 914 carb leak |
- Barry- your comment is interesting, as I know of a couple of instances
where it did dissolve the binder in the gasket material.- One was the oil
pan gasket on a Cadillac.- The engine had just been rebuilt, and the gas
ket fell apart within a week or so.- I had trouble with the valve cover g
askets on a Dodge flathead- same thing.- I have been told to only use som
ething like Indian head cement on them- if anything.- I was told that it'
s the evaporative solvent in the RTV that does it.- Maybe it's the type o
f RTV- blue, black, or red?
-------------------------
-------------------------
----- Bill Sullivan
--- On Mon, 9/26/11, FLYaDIVE <flyadive@gmail.com> wrote:
From: FLYaDIVE <flyadive@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: Re: 914 carb leak
RTV will NOT-dissolve-the rubber... GAS AvGas or MoGas will loosen the
RTV. -Even RTV that is-supposedly-rated for Gas.
Barry
R.I.N.E.
=0AOn Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 1:47 PM, william sullivan <williamtsullivan@att.
net> wrote:
=0A- Also, NEVER use any form of RTV on a cork gasket.- It dissolves th
e rubber.
--- On Mon, 9/26/11, rampil <ira.rampil@gmail.com> wrote:
=0A
From: rampil <ira.rampil@gmail.com>
Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: 914 carb leak
=0ATo: rotaxengines-list@matronics.com
=0A
A brief note of caution - If Bing's gaskets are cork, they may not be
ethanol resistant.
Caveat Emptor
Ira, N224XS
--------
Ira N224XS
Read this topic online=0A here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=://www.matronics.com/Navigato
r?RotaxEngines-List" target="_blank">http://ailable via the Web=0Anbsp;
- - - - - - - - - -Matt matronics.com/contribution" targe
t="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/cont===========
====
=0A=0A=0Aist" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RotaxEng
ines-List=0Atp://forums.matronics.com=0A_blank">http://www.matronics.com/co
ntribution=0A=0A
========================0A=0A
Message 7
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: 914 carb leak |
Bill:
The cars you mention are from my era, back then the cork was NOT bonded and
it was not a compound. Today's cork is a compound. And YES those OLD REAL
CORK gaskets were very easy to destroy. That is one of the reasons why they
went to metal 'head gaskets'. Back then you coated the gaskets
with INDIAN GASKET MAKER aka Varnish.
Now as for the colors:
Clear
Black
Gray
White
These are standard Sealant & Adhesive types.
RED
Is considered a High Temp
BLUE
Can be a High Temp but is also know as a GASKET MAKER.
And just to confuse matters GRAY is also a High Temp in some brands.
NOTHING is STRAIGHT FORWARD any more.
DOW Corning advertises a RTV as a GAS TANK SEALANT... They should be brought
to court for FALSE ADVERTISING. The RTV may not dissolve but it sure does
NOT bond to anything in a gas environment.
Barry
R.I.N.E.
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 6:57 PM, william sullivan
<williamtsullivan@att.net>wrote:
> Barry- your comment is interesting, as I know of a couple of instances
> where it did dissolve the binder in the gasket material. One was the oil
> pan gasket on a Cadillac. The engine had just been rebuilt, and the gasket
> fell apart within a week or so. I had trouble with the valve cover gaskets
> on a Dodge flathead- same thing. I have been told to only use something
> like Indian head cement on them- if anything. I was told that it's the
> evaporative solvent in the RTV that does it. Maybe it's the type of RTV-
> blue, black, or red?
>
> Bill Sullivan
>
> --- On *Mon, 9/26/11, FLYaDIVE <flyadive@gmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: FLYaDIVE <flyadive@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: Re: 914 carb leak
>
> To: rotaxengines-list@matronics.com
> Date: Monday, September 26, 2011, 6:25 PM
>
> RTV will NOT dissolve the rubber... GAS AvGas or MoGas will loosen the RTV.
> Even RTV that is supposedly rated for Gas.
>
> Barry
>
>
> R.I.N.E.
>
> On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 1:47 PM, william sullivan <
> williamtsullivan@att.net <http://mc/compose?to=williamtsullivan@att.net>>wrote:
>
> Also, NEVER use any form of RTV on a cork gasket. It dissolves the
> rubber.
>
> --- On *Mon, 9/26/11, rampil <ira.rampil@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=ira.rampil@gmail.com>
> >* wrote:
>
>
> From: rampil <ira.rampil@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=ira.rampil@gmail.com>
> >
> Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: 914 carb leak
> To: rotaxengines-list@matronics.com<http://mc/compose?to=rotaxengines-list@matronics.com>
> Date: Monday, September 26, 2011, 1:01 PM
>
> >
>
> A brief note of caution - If Bing's gaskets are cork, they may not be
> ethanol resistant.
>
> Caveat Emptor
>
> Ira, N224XS
>
> --------
> Ira N224XS
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RotaxEngines-List"
> target="_blank">http://ailable via the Web nbsp; -Matt
> matronics.com/contribution"
> target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/cont===============
>
>
> <http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353247#353247>
>
> *
>
> ist" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RotaxEngines-List
> tp://forums.matronics.com
> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
> *
>
>
> *
> lank" href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RotaxEngines-List">http://t; http://www.matronics.com/contrib==============
> <http://forums.matronics.co=>*
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
Message 8
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: 914 carb leak |
- Barry- That explains a lot.- Yes, both the cars and the stories were
from many years ago.- Thanks.
-------------------------
---------------------- Bill
--- On Mon, 9/26/11, FLYaDIVE <flyadive@gmail.com> wrote:
From: FLYaDIVE <flyadive@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: Re: 914 carb leak
Bill:
The cars you mention are from my era, back then the cork was NOT bonded and
it was not a compound. -Today's cork is a compound. -And YES those OLD
REAL CORK gaskets were very easy to-destroy. -That is one of the reaso
ns why they went to metal 'head gaskets'. -Back then you coated the gaske
ts with-INDIAN-GASKET MAKER aka Varnish. -=0ANow as for the colors:
-ClearBlack-GrayWhiteThese are standard Sealant &-Adhesive-types.RE
DIs considered a High Temp-BLUE-=0ACan be a High Temp but is also know
as a GASKET MAKER.And just to confuse matters GRAY is also a High Temp in s
ome brands.NOTHING is-STRAIGHT-FORWARD any more.
DOW Corning-advertises-a RTV as a GAS TANK SEALANT... They should be br
ought to court for FALSE-ADVERTISING. -The RTV may not-dissolve-but
it sure does NOT bond to anything in a gas environment.=0A
BarryR.I.N.E.
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 6:57 PM, william sullivan <williamtsullivan@att.net
> wrote:
=0A- Barry- your comment is interesting, as I know of a couple of instanc
es where it did dissolve the binder in the gasket material.- One was the
oil pan gasket on a Cadillac.- The engine had just been rebuilt, and the
gasket fell apart within a week or so.- I had trouble with the valve cove
r gaskets on a Dodge flathead- same thing.- I have been told to only use
something like Indian head cement on them- if anything.- I was told that
it's the evaporative solvent in the RTV that does it.- Maybe it's the typ
e of RTV- blue, black, or=0A red?
-------------------------
-------------------------
----- Bill Sullivan
--- On Mon, 9/26/11, FLYaDIVE <flyadive@gmail.com> wrote:
=0A
From: FLYaDIVE <flyadive@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: Re: 914 carb leak=0A
RTV will NOT-dissolve-the rubber... GAS AvGas or MoGas will loosen the
RTV. -Even RTV that is-supposedly-rated for=0A Gas.
Barry
R.I.N.E.
=0AOn Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 1:47 PM, william sullivan <williamtsullivan@att.
net> wrote:
=0A=0A- Also, NEVER use any form of RTV on a cork gasket.- It dissolves
the rubber.
--- On Mon, 9/26/11, rampil <ira.rampil@gmail.com> wrote:
=0A=0A
From: rampil <ira.rampil@gmail.com>
=0ASubject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: 914 carb leak
=0ATo: rotaxengines-list@matronics.com
=0A=0A
A brief note of caution - If Bing's gaskets are cork, they may not be
ethanol resistant.
Caveat Emptor
Ira, N224XS
--------
Ira N224XS
Read this topic online=0A here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=://www.matronics.com/Navigato
r?RotaxEngines-List" target="_blank">http://ailable via the Web=0Anbsp;
- - - - - - - - - -Matt matronics.com/contribution" targe
t="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/cont===========
====
=0A=0A=0Aist" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RotaxEng
ines-List=0Atp://forums.matronics.com=0A_blank">http://www.matronics.com/co
ntribution=0A=0A
=0A=0A=0Alank" href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RotaxEngines-List
">http://t; http://www.matronics.com/contrib==========
======0A=0A=0A=0A=0Aist" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.c
om/Navigator?RotaxEngines-List=0Atp://forums.matronics.com=0A_blank">http:/
/www.matronics.com/contribution=0A=0A
========================0A=0A
Other Matronics Email List Services
These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.
-- Please support this service by making your Contribution today! --
|