RotaxEngines-List Digest Archive

Mon 10/08/12


Total Messages Posted: 6



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     1. 02:00 AM - Vibration - suspect gearbox? (GBWFH2010)
     2. 02:54 AM - Re: Vibration - suspect gearbox? (GRAHAM SINGLETON)
     3. 03:28 AM - Re: Oil tank (Gtblu)
     4. 03:46 AM - Re: Vibration - suspect gearbox? (Bob Harrison)
     5. 07:14 AM - Re: Vibration - suspect gearbox? (Roger Lee)
     6. 10:30 AM - Re: Vibration - suspect gearbox? (GBWFH2010)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:00:18 AM PST US
    Subject: Vibration - suspect gearbox?
    From: "GBWFH2010" <gaxuk2010@gmail.com>
    Aircraft: Europa Tri-Gear Engine: Rotax 912 UL 80 Hp 350 Hours Propellor: Airmaster AP332 For over a year I have been trying to track down noise/vibration issues. I have done all the things that seem obvious: carb balancing, throttle/choke cables, checking exhaust system, airframe/cowling, servicing the propeller etc. but I can not find anything obvious. The symptoms are strange: take off and climb are normal and the initial cruise is fine: prop in cruise, 26 inches MFP and a steady 105Kts at 12.5 litres an hour. Anytime from 10 to 40mins after entering the cruise the noise starts, quietly at first and then gradually louder with a slight vibration. It is difficult to describe, more of a low frequency buzz than a mechanical clatter but it does increase in volume. If I select climb pitch the noise stops but returns when the cruise is re-established. Changing pitch manually can reduce the noise slightly but it does not go away. Bud Yearly has given me a comprehensive list of specific items to check which I am in the process of doing, but I am interested to know if anyone has experienced anything similar with their Rotax. Although my engine is quite low hours it is 14 years old so I suspect a gearbox overhaul may well be required. -------- Gordon Grant G-BWFH Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384913#384913


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    Time: 02:54:07 AM PST US
    From: GRAHAM SINGLETON <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: Vibration - suspect gearbox?
    Which propeller is it?=0AGraham=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: GBWFH2010 <gaxuk2010@gmail.com>=0ATo: rotaxengines-list@matronics.co m =0ASent: Monday, 8 October 2012, 9:59=0ASubject: RotaxEngines-List: Vibra FH2010" <gaxuk2010@gmail.com>=0A=0AAircraft: Europa Tri-Gear =0AEngine: Rot ax 912 UL 80 Hp 350 Hours=0APropellor: Airmaster AP332 =0A=0AFor over a yea r I have been trying to track down noise/vibration issues. I have done all the things that seem obvious: carb balancing, throttle/choke=C2- cables, checking exhaust system, airframe/cowling, servicing the propeller etc. but I can not find anything obvious. The symptoms are strange: take off and cl imb are normal and the initial cruise is fine: prop in cruise, 26 inches MF P and a steady 105Kts at 12.5 litres an hour. Anytime from 10 to 40mins aft er entering the cruise the noise starts, quietly at first and then graduall y louder with a slight vibration. It is difficult to describe, more of a lo w frequency buzz than a mechanical clatter but it does increase in volume. If I select =C3=A2=82=AC=CB=9Cclimb=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2 pitch the no ise stops but returns when the cruise is re-established. Changing pitch man ually can reduce the noise slightly but it does not go away. =0A=0ABud Year ly has given me a comprehensive list of specific items to check which I am in the process of doing, but I am interested to know if anyone has experien ced anything similar with their Rotax. Although my engine is quite low hour s it is 14 years old so I suspect a gearbox overhaul may well be required. =0A=0A--------=0AGordon Grant=0A=0AG-BWFH=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic onl ine here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384913#384913 - =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- - =============


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    Time: 03:28:11 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Oil tank
    From: "Gtblu" <gtbjbell@gmail.com>
    Hi All, I was hand turning the prop to try and get a gurgle, and was up to 120 revolutions of the prop when it struck me that the line back to the tank must be blocked. Well it was, but by the obscure method of the overflow pipe being kinked, thus causing a build up of pressure I imagine in the scavenger tank and thus stopping oil coming back into it. Continuous flying in that configuration may have become interesting! Thanks for all the suggestions, number 1 lesson again is to follow a hunch or a change in character till your satisfied its OK. Still haven't followed up the vibration.. That's next. cheers Geoff. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384916#384916


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    Time: 03:46:52 AM PST US
    From: "Bob Harrison" <ptag.dev@talktalk.net>
    Subject: Vibration - suspect gearbox?
    Hi! Gordon ,,,,,, Mail me with an address which works please, gaxuk2010@gmail.com doesn't work? Regards Bob Harrison G-PTAG -----Original Message----- From: owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GBWFH2010 Sent: 08 October 2012 09:59 Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Vibration - suspect gearbox? --> <gaxuk2010@gmail.com> Aircraft: Europa Tri-Gear Engine: Rotax 912 UL 80 Hp 350 Hours Propellor: Airmaster AP332 For over a year I have been trying to track down noise/vibration issues. I have done all the things that seem obvious: carb balancing, throttle/choke cables, checking exhaust system, airframe/cowling, servicing the propeller etc. but I can not find anything obvious. The symptoms are strange: take off and climb are normal and the initial cruise is fine: prop in cruise, 26 inches MFP and a steady 105Kts at 12.5 litres an hour. Anytime from 10 to 40mins after entering the cruise the noise starts, quietly at first and then gradually louder with a slight vibration. It is difficult to describe, more of a low frequency buzz than a mechanical clatter but it does increase in volume. If I select climb pitch the noise stops but returns when the cruise is re-established. Changing pitch manually can reduce the noise slightly but it does not go away. Bud Yearly has given me a comprehensive list of specific items to check which I am in the process of doing, but I am interested to know if anyone has experienced anything similar with their Rotax. Although my engine is quite low hours it is 14 years old so I suspect a gearbox overhaul may well be required. -------- Gordon Grant G-BWFH Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384913#384913


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    Time: 07:14:29 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Vibration - suspect gearbox?
    From: "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1@yahoo.com>
    I have seen many people think it was an engine issue, but really turned out to be the fuselage and the wind doing weird things in gaps or from fittings. -------- Roger Lee Tucson, Az. Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated Rotax Repair Center - Heavy Maint. Rated Home 520-574-1080 TRY HOME FIRST Cell 520-349-7056 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384928#384928


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    Time: 10:30:26 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Vibration - suspect gearbox?
    From: "GBWFH2010" <gaxuk2001@gmail.com>
    Sorry, due to an error in my profile the email address is incorrect. My correct email is gaxuk2001@gmail.com Graham: The prop is an Airmaster AP 322 Constant Speed fitted with 3 x 63" tapered blades. Roger: Yes, I have been checking the airframe/cowlings very carefully but have not found anything obvious yet. I did not make any changes to the aircarft prior to the noise commencing but I am still looking! -------- Gordon Grant G-BWFH Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384940#384940




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