---------------------------------------------------------- RotaxEngines-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 10/17/12: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:28 PM - Re: Radiator cleaning (Richard Girard) 2. 05:49 PM - Re: Radiator cleaning (Roger Lee) 3. 06:43 PM - Re: Radiator cleaning (FLYaDIVE) 4. 07:08 PM - Re: Radiator cleaning (John Cox) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:28:52 PM PST US Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: Radiator cleaning From: Richard Girard Geoff, If you use engine cleaner be sure to read all the caveats on the package. And make sure you can do it wherever. Last one I used softened my asphalt driveway even though I had a plastic tarp on a frame to catch the water. You don't need some guy walking up and introducing himself as the EPA investigator (yes it does happen) For my money I'd go with one of the Simple Green type cleaners that's certified for aluminum. Rick Girard On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 7:01 PM, FLYaDIVE wrote: > Geoff: > > Use any product that would cut oil. It is all dependent on ease of access > to all sides of the cooler and if can you remove any drippings. > As I was writing this I had an idea... I just deleted all that I wrote > here is the Simple, Quick and Inexpensive idea... Get a can of Spray > Engine Cleaner at any automotive store. Most require a warm engine - Then > Spray the cleaner on - Then wait a few minutes - Then wash it off with a > garden hose <-- High pressure helps. > Let it dry thoroughly - Air Hose will help. And you are done. > > Barry > > > On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Gtblu wrote: > >> >> Hi All, >> >> I'm after some tips on how we clean oil cooler/ radiator fins of >> accumulated gunge ie fine coating of oil from oil change drips mixed with >> dust. Even though cooling is the least of my worries with these radiators, >> I would like them to be clean. If anything they struggle to reach a >> satisfactory working temperature despite being taped up over winter. >> >> Thanks >> Geoff Bell >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385510#385510 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ========== >> -List" target="_blank"> >> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RotaxEngines-List >> ========== >> http://forums.matronics.com >> ========== >> le, List Admin. >> ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> ========== >> >> >> >> > * > > * > > -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:49:20 PM PST US Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Radiator cleaning From: "Roger Lee" Water based biodegradable "Oil Eater" is an excellent choice and works very well on greased clean ups including floors and greasy stove tops. Best non destructive stuff I have used. -------- Roger Lee Tucson, Az. Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated Rotax Repair Center - Heavy Maint. Rated Home 520-574-1080 TRY HOME FIRST Cell 520-349-7056 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385594#385594 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:43:25 PM PST US Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: Radiator cleaning From: FLYaDIVE Hi Richard: Yea, I heard that one about Simple Green for aluminum. It really makes me wonder. SOAP, well any soap that cleans is ALKALINE and alkaline will etch, attack or corrode aluminum... Use what ever of those words works best for you. Alkaline is used to clean aluminum before doing things like anodizing or painting. Yea, I know the term Acid Etch... Well it is only a term used to sell a product, for some reason the public understands ACID better than ALKALINE. Any one out there have any litmus paper? Run your own test to prove what I am saying. EPA! Kick them in the garage-keys. Then shoot them with the same arrow used to kill a deer. AHhhhh, New Jersey.... You can smell the dead deer alongside the road. E.P.A. - Extremely Prejudice Agency <--- Against Common Sense, they approved MTBE and Ethanol. Barry On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Richard Girard wrote: > Geoff, If you use engine cleaner be sure to read all the caveats on the > package. And make sure you can do it wherever. Last one I used softened my > asphalt driveway even though I had a plastic tarp on a frame to catch the > water. You don't need some guy walking up and introducing himself as the > EPA investigator (yes it does happen) For my money I'd go with one of the > Simple Green type cleaners that's certified for aluminum. > > Rick Girard > > On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 7:01 PM, FLYaDIVE wrote: > >> Geoff: >> >> Use any product that would cut oil. It is all dependent on ease of >> access to all sides of the cooler and if can you remove any drippings. >> As I was writing this I had an idea... I just deleted all that I wrote >> here is the Simple, Quick and Inexpensive idea... Get a can of Spray >> Engine Cleaner at any automotive store. Most require a warm engine - Then >> Spray the cleaner on - Then wait a few minutes - Then wash it off with a >> garden hose <-- High pressure helps. >> Let it dry thoroughly - Air Hose will help. And you are done. >> >> Barry >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Gtblu wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> I'm after some tips on how we clean oil cooler/ radiator fins of >>> accumulated gunge ie fine coating of oil from oil change drips mixed with >>> dust. Even though cooling is the least of my worries with these radiators, >>> I would like them to be clean. If anything they struggle to reach a >>> satisfactory working temperature despite being taped up over winter. >>> >>> Thanks >>> Geoff Bell >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Read this topic online here: >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385510#385510 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ========== >>> -List" target="_blank"> >>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RotaxEngines-List >>> ========== >>> http://forums.matronics.com >>> ========== >>> le, List Admin. >>> ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>> ========== >>> >>> >>> >>> >> * >> >> ist" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RotaxEngines-List >> tp://forums.matronics.com >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> * >> >> > > > -- > Zulu Delta > Mk IIIC > Thanks, Homer GBYM > > It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. > - Groucho Marx > > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:08:41 PM PST US Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: Radiator cleaning From: John Cox Hydrogen embrittlement. A number of solvents will cut hydrocarbons and clean metal. Know whether what you are using does damage before taking chances. Research the consequence of the wrong solvents. Eight years ago Simple Green did not have an approved aluminum cleaner. Now they have one which will not cause embrittlement, swelling of tefzel insullation or galvanic action on the material you are trying to clean. Now there is a Simple Green Aviation Cleaner. Sodium Hydroxide is an alkaline. Try a scrap piece before you destroy former aircraft grade parts. Know the MSDS. Heat and water can do some amazing stuff. John On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 6:42 PM, FLYaDIVE wrote: > Hi Richard: > > Yea, I heard that one about Simple Green for aluminum. > It really makes me wonder. SOAP, well any soap that cleans is ALKALINE > and alkaline will etch, attack or corrode aluminum... Use what ever of > those words works best for you. Alkaline is used to clean aluminum before > doing things like anodizing or painting. Yea, I know the term Acid Etch... > Well it is only a term used to sell a product, for some reason the public > understands ACID better than ALKALINE. > Any one out there have any litmus paper? Run your own test to prove what > I am saying. > EPA! Kick them in the garage-keys. Then shoot them with the same arrow > used to kill a deer. AHhhhh, New Jersey.... You can smell the dead deer > alongside the road. E.P.A. - Extremely Prejudice Agency <--- Against > Common Sense, they approved MTBE and Ethanol. > > Barry > > > On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Richard Girard wrote: > >> Geoff, If you use engine cleaner be sure to read all the caveats on the >> package. And make sure you can do it wherever. Last one I used softened my >> asphalt driveway even though I had a plastic tarp on a frame to catch the >> water. You don't need some guy walking up and introducing himself as the >> EPA investigator (yes it does happen) For my money I'd go with one of the >> Simple Green type cleaners that's certified for aluminum. >> >> Rick Girard >> >> On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 7:01 PM, FLYaDIVE wrote: >> >>> Geoff: >>> >>> Use any product that would cut oil. It is all dependent on ease of >>> access to all sides of the cooler and if can you remove any drippings. >>> As I was writing this I had an idea... I just deleted all that I wrote >>> here is the Simple, Quick and Inexpensive idea... Get a can of Spray >>> Engine Cleaner at any automotive store. Most require a warm engine - Then >>> Spray the cleaner on - Then wait a few minutes - Then wash it off with a >>> garden hose <-- High pressure helps. >>> Let it dry thoroughly - Air Hose will help. And you are done. >>> >>> Barry >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Gtblu wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> I'm after some tips on how we clean oil cooler/ radiator fins of >>>> accumulated gunge ie fine coating of oil from oil change drips mixed with >>>> dust. Even though cooling is the least of my worries with these radiators, >>>> I would like them to be clean. If anything they struggle to reach a >>>> satisfactory working temperature despite being taped up over winter. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> Geoff Bell >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Read this topic online here: >>>> >>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385510#385510 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ========== >>>> -List" target="_blank"> >>>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RotaxEngines-List >>>> ========== >>>> http://forums.matronics.com >>>> ========== >>>> le, List Admin. >>>> ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>>> ========== >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> * >>> >>> ist" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RotaxEngines-List >>> tp://forums.matronics.com >>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>> * >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Zulu Delta >> Mk IIIC >> Thanks, Homer GBYM >> >> It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be >> unhappy. >> - Groucho Marx >> >> >> * >> >> ist" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RotaxEngines-List >> tp://forums.matronics.com >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> * >> >> > * > > * > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rotaxengines-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RotaxEngines-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rotaxengines-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rotaxengines-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.