RotaxEngines-List Digest Archive

Mon 07/08/13


Total Messages Posted: 7



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 05:19 AM - Re: I Love Left handed drill bits (Thom Riddle)
     2. 05:30 AM - Re: Dynon EGT D180 Erratic (Thom Riddle)
     3. 05:56 AM - Re: Re: Dynon EGT D180 Erratic (Jay Hyde)
     4. 06:10 AM - Re: Dynon EGT D180 Erratic (FLYaDIVE)
     5. 02:24 PM - Re: I Love Left handed drill bits (Roger Lee)
     6. 02:30 PM - Re: Dynon EGT D180 Erratic (Roger Lee)
     7. 06:17 PM - Engine starts to quit after airborne (namedroppers@juno.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:19:26 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: I Love Left handed drill bits
    From: "Thom Riddle" <riddletr@gmail.com>
    Anyone who thinks that this connection needs thread locker clearly does not understand that aluminum has a very high coefficient of friction. In use, there is no external torque that would tend to loosen this connection. Applying thread locker to this connection is unnecessary and a very bad idea. -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY (9G0) Don't worry about old age... it doesn't last very long. - Anonymous Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404178#404178


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    Time: 05:30:10 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Dynon EGT D180 Erratic
    From: "Thom Riddle" <riddletr@gmail.com>
    Also, Rotax does not even specify EGT monitoring on the 912 series engines in their installation manual. Even the Diamond Katana type certificated airplane with 912-F3 does not have an EGT gauge. Without manual mixture control there is no real need for an EGT since the Bing 64s, when properly maintained, do a good job of maintaining safe and reasonably appropriate mixtures at most density altitudes. Not as good as FI of course which the 912-Si engine results have proven, but good enough for carburetors. -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY (9G0) Don't worry about old age... it doesn't last very long. - Anonymous Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404179#404179


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    Time: 05:56:57 AM PST US
    From: "Jay Hyde" <jay@horriblehyde.com>
    Subject: Re: Dynon EGT D180 Erratic
    The most important reason for having EGT's is so that you can watch the trend of the temperatures over time; they are excellent indicators of pending failure if you use them this way. Jay -----Original Message----- From: owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Thom Riddle Sent: 08 July 2013 02:30 PM Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Dynon EGT D180 Erratic --> <riddletr@gmail.com> Also, Rotax does not even specify EGT monitoring on the 912 series engines in their installation manual. Even the Diamond Katana type certificated airplane with 912-F3 does not have an EGT gauge. Without manual mixture control there is no real need for an EGT since the Bing 64s, when properly maintained, do a good job of maintaining safe and reasonably appropriate mixtures at most density altitudes. Not as good as FI of course which the 912-Si engine results have proven, but good enough for carburetors. -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY (9G0) Don't worry about old age... it doesn't last very long. - Anonymous Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404179#404179


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    Time: 06:10:38 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Dynon EGT D180 Erratic
    From: FLYaDIVE <flyadive@gmail.com>
    John: I have seen some really crazy exhaust systems being used with the Rotax engine... I recall one on a Diamond Moto-Glider that made a 180 Deg turn. The point being is: Variance in EGT between planes of the same type and between cylinders on the same engine is greatly affected by Probe Location. Things like unequal distance from the cylinder head, sharp turns, even simple turns in one stack that are not in the other stack and of course I mentioned; peak and trough of wave formation. But, YES, I would start with the simple checks first; connectors and as Rick said - Swap probes. EGT is a diagnostic tool, whether you have manual control over your mixture or not, it can show trends. If you are use to seeing 1300 F on a regular basis and all of a sudden the temp starts to drop say 200 F that is an indication of a richer (not rich) running system. If you are running dual carbs and you see a difference in one set of cylinders - Your carbs could be going out of sync. Even in a fuel injected engine, if a cylinder is running extra cool or extra rich that is an indication of injector or airflow issues. The real issue with EGT & CHT or for that matter ANY instrumentation is COCKPIT FIXSATION - Not LQQKing out the window. *Barry* On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 10:43 PM, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com> wrote: > Swap the probe with one from another cylinder and see if the problem > follows the probe. That way you know the problem is the probe. > Have you made sure you have good grounds for the Dynon. > > Rick Girard > > > On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 2:27 PM, JohnF <n29cx@ridgeviewtel.us> wrote: > >> >> One EGT reads in about correct range (+/-) 10-degrees of the other probe, >> but it 'jumps up and down about 10 to 20 degrees. >> >> I am going to replace the probe's connectors that go to the D180 and if >> that doesn't do it I probably will change the probe, but hesitate to spend >> the money if it is not really necessary. >> >> Any suggestions? >> >> >>


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    Time: 02:24:04 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: I Love Left handed drill bits
    From: "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1@yahoo.com>
    Hi Thom, I comes with a dry blue Loctite from Bing. Either from the factory or if ordered separately. -------- Roger Lee Tucson, Az. Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated Rotax Repair Center - Heavy Maint. Rated Home 520-574-1080 TRY HOME FIRST Cell 520-349-7056 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404233#404233


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    Time: 02:30:24 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Dynon EGT D180 Erratic
    From: "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1@yahoo.com>
    Personally I like EGT's. EGT's used properly can give some good info for performance, jetting and engine issues. They tend to read fast and give some indication on what's going on with the burn inside the cyl. CHT's on the other hand are slow and don't indicate as much because they are water cooled. The correct distance for an EGT sensor on a Rotax exhaust pipe is 100mm or 3.9" out from the head. You do need to be able to interpret what gauges are telling you and sometimes need to cross reference one gauge to another to see if what it is telling you is real or a sender only problem. -------- Roger Lee Tucson, Az. Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated Rotax Repair Center - Heavy Maint. Rated Home 520-574-1080 TRY HOME FIRST Cell 520-349-7056 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404236#404236


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    Time: 06:17:19 PM PST US
    From: "namedroppers@juno.com" <namedroppers@juno.com>
    Subject: Engine starts to quit after airborne
    I own a Pipistrel Virus motorglider with a Rotax 912 UL. This is a high wing aircraft like a Cessna. After installing a fuel pressure guage by p lacing a T fitting between the fuel pump and the four way distribution b lock and after changing the spark plugs the engine now sputters and want s to quit after lifting off. Before I did this the engine ran fine so I undid what I did. I put the original fuel line back with no T fitting, b lew out all the fuel lines and took the carb fuel bowls off and cleaned them out. The same fuel is in the tanks when it was running ok and I had just taken a 40 minute trip so I doubt it's fuel contamination. I run t he engine on the ground at full throttle with no problems. The only thin g I didn't do was change the spark plugs back to the originals but I wou ld think if that was the problem it wouldn't run ok on the ground. I'm t hinking it might have something to do with the attitude of the aircraft or maybe the ignition system is heating up ?????Any thoughts guys.Giovan ni ____________________________________________________________ New Policy in Mississippi 2012-Drivers w/ no DUIs eligible for up to 50% off car insurance... http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/51db6468e022464680383st02vuc




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