---------------------------------------------------------- RotaxEngines-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 08/22/13: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:10 PM - Best way to ship a Rotax 503. (mike91911) 2. 01:19 PM - Re: Best way to ship a Rotax 503. (Richard Girard) 3. 01:35 PM - Re: Best way to ship a Rotax 503. (Blumax008@aol.com) 4. 02:11 PM - Re: Best way to ship a Rotax 503. (Guy Buchanan) 5. 02:36 PM - Re: Best way to ship a Rotax 503. (Vance Simons) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:10:08 PM PST US Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Best way to ship a Rotax 503. From: "mike91911" What is the best way to package a Rotax 503 for shipping? I'm sending engine, gearbox and carbs. The guy who is overhauling it recommended a 30 x 17 x 17" 350 lb. Double Wall Corrugated Box with plywood and 2x4's on the bottom with the engine bolted to the 2x4's and then cushion with styrofoam sheeting. The box is rated to hold 150lbs and the sides are rated to take 350lbs of sidewall pressure. Others have said build a crate. If you recommend building a crate can you offer any design advice? Mike Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=407255#407255 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:19:11 PM PST US Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: Best way to ship a Rotax 503. From: Richard Girard Mike, I've shipped two engines pretty much as you describe except I made a base of plywood with a 2 X 2 frame to which the engine was bolted, then put the box over the top and screwed it to the base. Both times the box was ripped off by the shippers. If I were you I'd ship it in a wooden crate. It won't weigh that much more and that's about the minimum that has a chance against an idiot with a fork lift. Rick Girard On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 3:09 PM, mike91911 wrote: > > What is the best way to package a Rotax 503 for shipping? I'm sending > engine, gearbox and carbs. The guy who is overhauling it recommended a 30 x > 17 x 17" 350 lb. Double Wall Corrugated Box with plywood and 2x4's on the > bottom with the engine bolted to the 2x4's and then cushion with styrofoam > sheeting. The box is rated to hold 150lbs and the sides are rated to take > 350lbs of sidewall pressure. Others have said build a crate. If you > recommend building a crate can you offer any design advice? > Mike > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=407255#407255 > > -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:35:37 PM PST US From: Blumax008@aol.com Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: Best way to ship a Rotax 503. In a message dated 8/22/2013 4:19:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, aslsa.rng@gmail.com writes: It won't weigh that much more and that's about the minimum that has a chance against an idiot with a fork lift. Hey, I trucked for a living a few months when I made the Big Mistake of getting out of commercial aviation. You're correct, there's plenty of idiots in the trucking and fork lift fields of employment. I once saw a man & wife trucking team with asses so wide they overlapped an eight foot bench! True story! ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:11:33 PM PST US From: Guy Buchanan Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: Best way to ship a Rotax 503. I shipped my 582 in a plastic Tupperware "crate" I bought at K-mart. Plywood base with 2" styrofoam under, 2" styrofoam insulation from Home Depot cut to fit tight so if the box turned over the plywood base would rest on it, and lots of duct tape. I also did the corrugated box successfully the same way: standard corrugated box doubled up with some extra cardboard, raised plywood base, (2" styro under,) 2" styro box over it with shaped support well taped together, lots of fiberglass packing tape and duct tape. I also "made" lots of handles so the morons wouldn't be tempted to forklift. (Cut holes in the box and reinforce them with fiberglass tape.) The main thing is to shape the styro supports so the engine is safe resting in any position. Of course you'll mark it "This end up" anyway, but we know how that works. (Digression: I flew to Belize once for a bike trip. We boxed our bikes, but didn't do it too carefully, figuring "what could happen?" Well, when we got to Belize City we stood waiting in the customs line out on the tarmac outside a small building and watched in horror as they unloaded the plane by pushing the baggage out the baggage door of the 767 and letting it drop to the ground. I estimate the drop at about 8-10'. Fortunately the bikes survived.) Guy Buchanan Ramona, CA Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded Now a glider pilot, too. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:36:56 PM PST US Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: Best way to ship a Rotax 503. From: Vance Simons I have shipped two 503's from Washington to AZ. I built a create out of OSB with 2x2 skids on the bottom and also used 2x2 stock to frame the inside of the box. Both boxes worked great and the engines were returned in the same boxes I built. On one of them I made rope lifting handles and the second one I just cut holes. I cut 1x2 stock and drilled holes in them to except the mounting studs on the bottom of the engine then screwed them to the bottom of the box when I had the engine in a position I liked it. I used board foam to cushion the engine sides and egg foam on the top before securing the box lid on. It may sound like overkill but I didn't want anything to happen to my engine. I didn't have an issue with either of them shipping. Hope this helps. I have seen engines shipped in less and do fine also. Vance. On Aug 22, 2013 1:14 PM, "mike91911" wrote: > > What is the best way to package a Rotax 503 for shipping? I'm sending > engine, gearbox and carbs. The guy who is overhauling it recommended a 30 x > 17 x 17" 350 lb. Double Wall Corrugated Box with plywood and 2x4's on the > bottom with the engine bolted to the 2x4's and then cushion with styrofoam > sheeting. The box is rated to hold 150lbs and the sides are rated to take > 350lbs of sidewall pressure. Others have said build a crate. If you > recommend building a crate can you offer any design advice? > Mike > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=407255#407255 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rotaxengines-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RotaxEngines-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rotaxengines-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rotaxengines-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.