---------------------------------------------------------- RotaxEngines-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 07/20/14: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:05 PM - Re: Re: 8th Annual 2014 Page, AZ. Fly-In (Don Hudgeon) 2. 08:15 PM - polyethylene tanks and fuel ports (used to be in-line filters) (Sacha) 3. 08:29 PM - Re: Re: 8th Annual 2014 Page, AZ. Fly-In (bjones@dmv.com) 4. 08:53 PM - Re: polyethylene tanks and fuel ports (used to be in-line filters) (Guy Buchanan) 5. 09:55 PM - Re: polyethylene tanks and fuel ports (used to be in-line filters) (Sacha) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:05:15 PM PST US Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: Re: 8th Annual 2014 Page, AZ. Fly-In From: Don Hudgeon Thanks Roger I will plan on attending. Cheers Don On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 10:58 PM, Roger Lee wrote: > > Hi Don, > > All are welcome. We have aircraft of all types and speeds. > > -------- > Roger Lee > Tucson, Az. > Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated > Rotax Repair Center - Heavy Maint. Rated > Home 520-574-1080 TRY HOME FIRST > Cell 520-349-7056 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=426988#426988 > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:15:34 PM PST US From: "Sacha" Subject: RotaxEngines-List: polyethylene tanks and fuel ports (used to be in-line filters) Hi Guy, thank for your feedback yeah, those are scary thoughts. I did mean to add =9Cand then glass them over=9D to my original post in fact. But it turns out my wing tanks are not made of resin after all; a friend who is more knowledgeable than me in these matters told me they look like they are polyethylene, or maybe a kind of nylon, like the Kitfox header tank. So gluing will be difficult and I=99m not sure glassing them will work either: it looks like I will not be able to fit finger strainers (or fuel drain valves) to either wing tank as I can=99t find a viable way to attach the fuel ports/aluminum flanges to the tank walls. (As they need to be close to the trailing edge of the wing, it=99s not feasible to fit a counter-nut on the inside of the tank either). Instead of finger strainers on each wing, I=99m thinking of fitting a single finger strainer to the header tank. It looks like this can be done without too much difficulty if I can tin-solder some brass mesh to the fuel port (the finger strainers they sell at ACS seem to be made that way in fact I=99m having trouble finding brass mesh so I may have to cut some from one of the ACS strainers). sacha From: owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Guy Buchanan Sent: Sunday, 20 July, 2014 07:07 Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: in-line fuel filters - can you recommend any? Sorry for the late reply, Sacha, I've been out of town. That might work. You must be very careful to sand, clean, then use something like MetalPrep , then Alodine, to prep the surface of the aluminum so you get a really good bond. It will seriously ruin your day to have this flange pop off with the finger strainer in place, thereby letting the entire tank of fuel drain into your wing. >:o (Meaning: I would never do it, unless I glassed over it after bonding it.) Guy Buchanan Ramona, CA Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded Now a glider pilot, too. On 7/16/2014 8:50 PM, Sacha wrote: What do you think of the idea of gluing aluminum welding flanges to the outside of the tank using two-part epoxy resin/glue or some other adhesive. Would it work? Once the flanges are glued i could drill holes in the tank and then screw the finger strainers/fuel drains in place. The flange for the fuel port could be cut so that it can sit lower down. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:29:12 PM PST US Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: Re: 8th Annual 2014 Page, AZ. Fly-In From: bjones@dmv.com Hi Don, I usually trailer my Kitfox to Page at the same time as the CT flyin and have used the large gravel area just past the main transient ramp to park the trailer if the ramp is expected to be loaded. Last year the lady who had airport management duties and wears other hats for the town was concerned about having room for my rig until I negotiated an arrangement to have the on site airport maintenance guys work with me to make sure I was not "in the way". If you end up using the gravel area expect to deal with sand burs. By the way, I will do two forums at Air Venture this year, the usual tips on touring by motorhome and folding wing plane. Not much changed in the forums since the last forums at Sun N Fun, Sebring and Copper State. Hope you get to have FUN! Robert (Bob) Jones Kitfox IV 912 Enclosed trailer > Hi Roger > Just wondering if a Canadian with a KITFOX Vixen would be welcome!!! > > I am presently building an enclosed trailer for my Vixen with the > intention > of traveling to AZ for a few months this winter. I am towing it with a > Sprinter Campervan. > I would organize my trip to come through the Page area at this time.. I > could arrive in time to setup my plane and join you CT folks on the flying > trips. > > Don Hudgeon > 14008 Nesbitt Ave > Summerland,BC > V0H 1Z1 > 250 494-9042 > don@hudgeon.com > > KITFOX Vixen C-FOXK > 912UL IVO IFA prop. > > Cheers > Don > > > On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 7:05 AM, Roger Lee wrote: > >> >> >> The Page Fly-In attendees list was just updated. >> >> WHY ISN'T YOUR NAME ON THE LIST? >> >> Come join us. It will be the best trip you ever had. Scenery and friends >> like none other. >> >> p.s. >> Don't forget to send Roger your personal info as it is ask for in the >> original post. >> >> -------- >> Roger Lee >> Tucson, Az. >> Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated >> Rotax Repair Center - Heavy Maint. Rated >> Home 520-574-1080 TRY HOME FIRST >> Cell 520-349-7056 >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=426929#426929 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:53:34 PM PST US From: Guy Buchanan Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: polyethylene tanks and fuel ports (used to be in-line filters) On 7/20/2014 3:49 PM, Sacha wrote: > > But it turns out my wing tanks are not made of resin after all; a > friend who is more knowledgeable than me in these matters told me they > look like they are polyethylene, or maybe a kind of nylon, like the > Kitfox header tank. So gluing will be difficult and Im not sure > glassing them will work either: > It's true. Nothing sticks reliably to polyethylene. It has to be welded. > > Instead of finger strainers on each wing, Im thinking of fitting a > single finger strainer to the header tank. It looks like this can be > done without too much difficulty if I can tin-solder some brass mesh > to the fuel port (the finger strainers they sell at ACS seem to be > made that way in fact Im having trouble finding brass mesh so I may > have to cut some from one of the ACS strainers). > I think the ACS strainers use steel mesh. Call them, they should be able to tell you. Guy Buchanan Ramona, CA Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded Now a glider pilot, too. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:55:14 PM PST US Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: polyethylene tanks and fuel ports (used to be in-line filters) From: Sacha I have one here and it looks like bronze or brass. It's tin-soldered to a 1/2" male 3/8" female NPT fitting. > On Jul 21, 2014, at 5:53, Guy Buchanan wrote: > > I think the ACS strainers use steel mesh. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rotaxengines-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RotaxEngines-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rotaxengines-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rotaxengines-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.