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    Time: 12:05:34 PM PST US
    From: "Brian Davies" <brian.davies@clara.co.uk>
    Subject: AN fuel line fittings
    There are lots of small orifices in fuel systems. That's how carbs work. (supplying fuel through small orifices). The standard Rotax fuel return system uses a fuel return through a small orifice. Regards Brian Davies From: owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of FLYaDIVE Sent: 06 September 2014 00:41 Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: AN fuel line fittings Guy: You cannot agree to the corrosion as it is nonexistent. Did you read my post? Just in case you missed it:- Hi Jay & Gaggle: Brass does not corrode. It can oxidize the same as aluminum, forming Brass Oxide. As for small orifices - There should NOT be any small orifices in a fuel system. There is a simple and basic requirement that the fuel line have a diameter large enough to supply twice the full power hourly fuel flow of the engine under a gravity feed system. Now, there are BRASS nozzles used on many Lycoming & Continental engines for the Primer Lines which are quite small. In the range of 0.060" Diameter. So, once again orifice size in not an issue. MANY carburetors use brass nozzles and valve seats internally - So, once again orifice size in not an issue. Sorry Jay, your information is not correct. Barry ======================== And if you wonder what my qualifications are for making my statements, I was a QA Manager and Technical Sales Engineer for a metal coatings company for 8 years and a QA Test Engineer for 20+ working years of my life. Add to that the little fact about brass being used in carbs for decades you will realize Jay in incorrect. Barry On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 7:15 PM, Guy Buchanan <gebuchanan@cox.net> wrote: I think I agree on the corrosion, unless it's electrolytic. As to the orifices, there is one in the stock return line. Not sure what size it is, but it is pretty small, certainly smaller than .06". Guy Buchanan Ramona, CA Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded Now a glider pilot, too. On 9/5/2014 11:59 AM, FLYaDIVE wrote: Hi Jay & Gaggle: Brass does not corrode. It can oxidize the same as aluminum, forming Brass Oxide. As for small orifices - There should NOT be any small orifices in a fuel system. There is a simple and basic requirement that the fuel line have a diameter large enough to supply twice the full power hourly fuel flow of the engine under a gravity feed system. Now, there are BRASS nozzles used on many Lycoming & Continental engines for the Primer Lines which are quite small. In the range of 0.060" Diameter. So, once again orifice size in not an issue. MANY carburetors use brass nozzles and valve seats internally - So, once again orifice size in not an issue. Sorry Jay, your information is not correct. Barry On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 5:47 AM, Jay Hyde <jay@horriblehyde.com> wrote: Hello Guy, One problem with brass is that it may corrode in such a way to block your small orifices- although I think that with fuel it would be ok. The reason for this is that brass will corrode in the presence of water (as do other metals, but I have noticed that brass will do that in a pain in the arse way in particular situations). Because you are using brass in your fuel lines it shouldn't be a problem- except where you have small orifices. But it looks as if you have that figured out. Johannesburg Jay ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ HH Enterprises * Aircraft assembly, repair, wiring and avionics * Flight instruction * General and Electrical Engineering services (NHD Elec Eng, BTech Elec Eng, GDE ELec Eng) * Great dinner parties and conversation * General adventuring, climbing, kayaking and living Blog: www.rawhyde.wordpress.com <http://www.rawhyde.wordpress.com/> Cel: 083 300 8675 Email: jay@horriblehyde.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From: owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Guy Buchanan Sent: 05 September 2014 02:45 AM Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: AN fuel line fittings Lots of people do, indeed possibly most out there. I used them throughout, my only question was whether to use aluminum of steel. I used steel and brass on fuel, and used steel on a couple of the oil lines; the rest aluminum. Hope it works, as I'm not quite flying yet. Guy Buchanan Ramona, CA Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded Now a glider pilot, too. On 9/4/2014 3:00 PM, frank3 wrote: <mailto:frank3phyl@comcast.net> <frank3phyl@comcast.net> Has any one gone to the trouble (and expense) of using AN fittings on their fuel or oil lines, i.e. used Aeroquip or Stratoflex fittings? How'd that work out for ya? -------- Frank McDonald Kitfox S7 912S, Sensenich Composite 3 Blade Acworth, GA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=430002#430002 http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RotaxEngines-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution ist" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RotaxEngines-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ist" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RotaxEngines-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution No virus found in this message. 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