---------------------------------------------------------- RotaxEngines-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 12/06/14: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:56 PM - Magnetic plug (Dan Wilde) 2. 03:10 PM - Re: Magnetic plug (FLYaDIVE) 3. 03:19 PM - Re: Magnetic plug (Roger Lee) 4. 03:24 PM - Re: Magnetic plug (John Hauck) 5. 03:29 PM - Re: Magnetic plug (Alan Sandul) 6. 03:58 PM - Re: Magnetic plug (Alan Sandul) 7. 04:15 PM - Re: Magnetic plug (FLYaDIVE) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:56:32 PM PST US From: Dan Wilde Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Magnetic plug OK. I have stripped the magnetic plug and can't get it out with the torx. What are my options? I do have the new hex head replacement but that doesn't help til I get the old one out. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Dan Wilde ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:10:53 PM PST US Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: Magnetic plug From: FLYaDIVE 1 - BP Blast 2 - Drill it out... Then use a EZOut... 3 - What material is it made of? You may want to use a SQUARE EZOut. 4 - Another trick it so use HEAT... Heat around the plug and cool the plug, then quickly use the EZOut . Barry ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:19:32 PM PST US Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Magnetic plug From: "Roger Lee" Hi Dan, This is easy. I have done many. Give me a call and I'll tell you two ways to do it in seconds.. Roger Lee Tucson, AZ 520-574-1080 -------- Roger Lee Tucson, Az. Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated Rotax Repair Center - Heavy Maint. Rated Home 520-574-1080 TRY HOME FIRST Cell 520-349-7056 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=435435#435435 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:24:58 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: RE: RotaxEngines-List: Magnetic plug I experienced the same problem somewhere back there since I started flying 912 engines in 1994. If I remember correctly, I smacked it with flat faced brass drift and a 2 lb hammer, then broke it loose with a pair of Vise Grips. I too had a new mag plug to replace the one I buggered up. Personally, I would never use an Ease It Out on anything. If you screw up and break the tip off one, you are really screwed. Also, I don't think I would use heat on the gear box or cases, or for that matter, anything on the 912. Worth what you paid for it. Your mileage may vary. john h MKIII Titus, Alabama 1 - BP Blast 2 - Drill it out... Then use a EZOut... 3 - What material is it made of? You may want to use a SQUARE EZOut. 4 - Another trick it so use HEAT... Heat around the plug and cool the plug, then quickly use the EZOut . Barry ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:29:19 PM PST US Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: Magnetic plug From: Alan Sandul What I have done is get a large flat punch the size of the OD of the plug and give it a shock blow and then if you don't have an internal allen head remover, I have actually used a chisel,not to sharp, and on the OD of the plug,give it a good shot in the counterclockwise direction to snap it loose and it will come out. Not an expert, but this has worked on stripped plugs in the hydraulic industry, and actually on my 912ULS, and worked fine. Good you have a new one, but I am still using the original. Maybe wait till someone else may have a better solution, but this worked for me. Alan Sent from my iPad > On Dec 6, 2014, at 5:55 PM, Dan Wilde wrote: > > > OK. I have stripped the magnetic plug and can't get it out with the torx. What are my options? I do have the new hex head replacement but that doesn't help til I get the old one out. Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Dan Wilde > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:58:18 PM PST US Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: Magnetic plug From: Alan Sandul The plug is magnetic so is steel but the magnetic insert in the interior is a separate piece and I would be concerned if drilling out it may become dislodged and fall inside the crankcase,which brings up another issue. The plug is not secured with Loctite so heating won't help,as the plug will expand before the case, but cooling it quickly with CO2 may help but try the chisel method because it worked for me. I just checked my plug and it has a small notch where I used the dull chisel to get it out and is still there with no issue. Mind you I didn't totally strip the Allen/Torx as I saw it wasn't coming out and used the Allen wrench to tighten it back in and the notch is there for loosening it the next check. Good you have a new one to replace the old one if you wish. Rotax so it's not cheap. Alan Sent from my iPad > On Dec 6, 2014, at 5:55 PM, Dan Wilde wrote: > > > OK. I have stripped the magnetic plug and can't get it out with the torx. What are my options? I do have the new hex head replacement but that doesn't help til I get the old one out. Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Dan Wilde > > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:15:58 PM PST US Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: Magnetic plug From: FLYaDIVE A good mechanic does not break off EZ Outs. Heat is quite acceptable... After all heat is generated by the gear box. You are not brazing you are just creating a delta in the heat between the male and female threads - That is why I mentioned cool the plug... ICE works very good for that. What is the plug made of? What is the case made of? I'm guessing that the case is cast? If so - You feel it is acceptable to pound on the case with a brass drift and a 2 Lb hammer... OUCH! Did I hear that case CRACK! Barry On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 6:24 PM, John Hauck wrote: > I experienced the same problem somewhere back there since I started flying > 912 engines in 1994. > > > If I remember correctly, I smacked it with flat faced brass drift and a > 2 lb hammer, then broke it loose with a pair of Vise Grips. I too had a > new mag plug to replace the one I buggered up. > > > Personally, I would never use an Ease It Out on anything. If you screw > up and break the tip off one, you are really screwed. > > > Also, I don't think I would use heat on the gear box or cases, or for that > matter, anything on the 912. > > > Worth what you paid for it. Your mileage may vary. > > > john h > > MKIII > > Titus, Alabama > > > 1 - BP Blast > > 2 - Drill it out... Then use a EZOut... > > 3 - What material is it made of? > > You may want to use a SQUARE EZOut. > > 4 - Another trick it so use HEAT... Heat around the plug and cool the > plug, then quickly use the EZOut . > > > Barry > > > * > > > * > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rotaxengines-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RotaxEngines-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rotaxengines-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rotaxengines-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.