---------------------------------------------------------- RotaxEngines-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 10/13/15: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:49 AM - Heavy duty starter for Rotax 914? (Roland) 2. 04:04 AM - Re: Heavy duty starter for Rotax 914? (Alan Carter) 3. 04:44 AM - Re: Heavy duty starter for Rotax 914? (Roland) 4. 08:13 AM - Re: Heavy duty starter for Rotax 914? (Alan Carter) 5. 09:49 AM - Re: Re: Heavy duty starter for Rotax 914? (Guy Buchanan) 6. 10:52 AM - Re: Re: Heavy duty starter for Rotax 914? (Brian Davies) 7. 12:28 PM - Re: Re: Heavy duty starter for Rotax 914? (Guy Buchanan) 8. 05:05 PM - Re: Heavy duty starter for Rotax 914? (Roger Lee) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:49:17 AM PST US Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Heavy duty starter for Rotax 914? From: "Roland" Hi all, since I'm planning to move (the much lighter) LiFePo battery http://www.accu-24.de/ALIANT-LiFePO4-Ultralight-Battery-X4-13-2-V-92-Ah from the baggage compartment onto the right footwell and having to change the Rotax sprug clutch this winter (lots of kick backs on starting), I'm also thinking about installing a heavy duty starter like this one http://silent-hektik.com/UL_912_Anlasser.htm . I seem to remember, that it's most advisable to retrofit it on the 912 S with its higher compression. Did anyone of you install such a heavy duty starter on the 912 or 914 or is it just overkill for this engine? Regards Roland PH-ZTI Europa XS TG 914 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=447868#447868 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:04:28 AM PST US Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Heavy duty starter for Rotax 914? From: "Alan Carter" Hi Roland. Get the Soft start model, from Con Air. Problem solved. Alan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=447869#447869 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:44:34 AM PST US Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Heavy duty starter for Rotax 914? From: "Roland" Hi Alan, I watched the Bully Hawk Video - also a good idea to cure the kick back, but one also needs to deactivate one ignition circuit on starting to get the best results. I'll also consider this - thanks. Regards Roland Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=447871#447871 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:13:11 AM PST US Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Heavy duty starter for Rotax 914? From: "Alan Carter" Hi, Roland. I take it you have a Key ignition switch and not two separate on and off switches. If so you can still use the same switch as L and R mag, All you need do is deactivate the starter position and take those wires to a separate Starter Button. Job Done. The Soft Start then takes about 20 minutes to fit. Its an easy job to do. Alan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=447882#447882 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:49:46 AM PST US Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Heavy duty starter for Rotax 914? From: Guy Buchanan Or you can disable the hard start module by routing it through a switch you'll keep off when you start. In my case it was avionics power, which I don't switch on until after start. Once started I switch on the avionics, which also activates my B, non soft start, module. That allowed me to use my existing key switch as before. It also allows me to kill the B module before I shut down, which helps as well. Guy Buchanan Ramona, CA Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. flying again. Now a glider pilot, too. On 10/13/2015 8:12 AM, Alan Carter wrote: > > Hi, Roland. > > I take it you have a Key ignition switch and not two separate on and off switches. > If so you can still use the same switch as L and R mag, > All you need do is deactivate the starter position and take those wires to a separate Starter Button. > Job Done. > The Soft Start then takes about 20 minutes to fit. > Its an easy job to do. > > Alan > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=447882#447882 > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:52:35 AM PST US From: "Brian Davies" Subject: RE: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Heavy duty starter for Rotax 914? So does that mean if you switch off the avionics master because you have an electrical fault that you lose one of your ignition systems? Hm... Brian Davies -----Original Message----- From: owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Guy Buchanan Sent: 13 October 2015 17:49 Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Heavy duty starter for Rotax 914? --> Or you can disable the hard start module by routing it through a switch you'll keep off when you start. In my case it was avionics power, which I don't switch on until after start. Once started I switch on the avionics, which also activates my B, non soft start, module. That allowed me to use my existing key switch as before. It also allows me to kill the B module before I shut down, which helps as well. Guy Buchanan Ramona, CA Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. flying again. Now a glider pilot, too. On 10/13/2015 8:12 AM, Alan Carter wrote: > --> > > Hi, Roland. > > I take it you have a Key ignition switch and not two separate on and off switches. > If so you can still use the same switch as L and R mag, All you need > do is deactivate the starter position and take those wires to a separate Starter Button. > Job Done. > The Soft Start then takes about 20 minutes to fit. > Its an easy job to do. > > Alan > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=447882#447882 > > ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:28:28 PM PST US Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Heavy duty starter for Rotax 914? From: Guy Buchanan Yes it does, but my avionics are simple in the extreme and very unlikely to catch fire. Any shorts should be handled by the fuses. Not optimal, I know, but best I could do without a major rework. (The install was a retrofit.) Guy On 10/13/2015 10:51 AM, Brian Davies wrote: > > So does that mean if you switch off the avionics master because you have an > electrical fault that you lose one of your ignition systems? Hm... > > Brian Davies > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Guy > Buchanan > Sent: 13 October 2015 17:49 > To: rotaxengines-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Heavy duty starter for Rotax 914? > > --> > > Or you can disable the hard start module by routing it through a switch > you'll keep off when you start. In my case it was avionics power, which I > don't switch on until after start. Once started I switch on the avionics, > which also activates my B, non soft start, module. That allowed me to use my > existing key switch as before. It also allows me to kill the B module before > I shut down, which helps as well. > > Guy Buchanan > Ramona, CA > Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. flying again. > Now a glider pilot, too. > > > On 10/13/2015 8:12 AM, Alan Carter wrote: >> --> >> >> Hi, Roland. >> >> I take it you have a Key ignition switch and not two separate on and off > switches. >> If so you can still use the same switch as L and R mag, All you need >> do is deactivate the starter position and take those wires to a separate > Starter Button. >> Job Done. >> The Soft Start then takes about 20 minutes to fit. >> Its an easy job to do. >> >> Alan >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=447882#447882 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:05:42 PM PST US Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Heavy duty starter for Rotax 914? From: "Roger Lee" This starter is longer and depending on your engine mounts may be too long. -------- Roger Lee Tucson, Az. 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