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1. 12:46 AM - Re: Coolant Hose (John Elling)
2. 12:56 AM - Re: Coolant Hose (Max Free)
3. 01:58 PM - Re: Coolant Hose (Hugh McKay)
4. 02:01 PM - Re: Coolant Hose (Hugh McKay)
5. 02:03 PM - Re: Coolant Hose (Hugh McKay)
6. 02:40 PM - Re: Coolant Hose (Robert Borger)
7. 07:00 PM - Re: Coolant Hose (Pete Christensen)
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Subject: | Re: Coolant Hose |
I've replaces all the coolant and oil hoses with the "blue" silicone
from various autoparts catalogs. No problems. You can get
pre-fabricated bends as needed. Makes for a nice clean install....
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John Elling
590 Monte Alto
Santa Fe, NM 87501-6172
Ph. (505) 670-0232
Fx. (206) 339-4045
john@elling.net
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Did the same on my Europa XS and few years later on my MCR 4S. Both modifications
been approved by french admin...
Cordialement
Max Cointe
mcointe@free.fr
F-PLDJ DynAro MCR 4S
Kit #27-2002 1850 heures 912ULSFR/e-Props D100M
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Envoy : dimanche 15 janvier 2017 09:45
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Objet : Re: RotaxEngines-List: Coolant Hose
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I've replaces all the coolant and oil hoses with the "blue" silicone from various
autoparts catalogs. No problems. You can get pre-fabricated bends as needed.
Makes for a nice clean install....
--
John Elling
590 Monte Alto
Santa Fe, NM 87501-6172
Ph. (505) 670-0232
Fx. (206) 339-4045
john@elling.net
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Subject: | Re: Coolant Hose |
Bob,
Did the hoses come on the engine or did you install them? Is your engine
a tractor or pusher? Is it under a cowl?
Hugh G. McKay III, P.E. Fellow, L.M. ASCE
Senior Consultant
Worldwide Engineering Inc.
4090 North NC Hwy. 16
Denver, NC 28037
Ph. 704-661-8271
Fax 704-483-5466
email hgmckay@bellsouth.net
http://www.wwegeo.com
From: Robert Borger
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: Coolant Hose
Hugh,
FWIW, all the coolant hoses on my 914 are silicone. They seem to be
working just fine, no problems at all.
Blue skies & tailwinds,
Bob Borger
Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop (75 hrs).
Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208-5331
Cel: 817-992-1117
rlborger@mac.com
On Jan 14, 2017, at 5:38 PM, Hugh McKay <hgmckay@bellsouth.net> wrote:
I am replacing the large 1 inch inside =EF=BDdiameter coolant hose on
my 912 engine. All of this large coolant hose and the radiator is under
the cowl in my Allegro 2000 so the ambient operating temperature is much
higher than an exposed 912 engine. I have looked into using silicone
hose because of its higher temperature rating but I have found out that
the water permeation rate through silicone hose is 10 to 15 times normal
2 ply heater hose. The temperature rating on normal 2 ply hose is only
125 degrees C, where the silicone hose is rated at 170 degrees C +/-. Is
anyone out there using silicone coolant hose? If so what is your
experience? If you are not using silicone hose what have you replaced
the original Rotax hose with?
Hugh G. McKay III
Ph. 704-661-8271
Fax 704-483-5466
email hgmckay@bellsouth.net
<Hugh.vcf>
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Subject: | Re: Coolant Hose |
Pete, I assume your engine is fully cowled. Did you install the silicone
hose or was it original on your engine. Do you know the manufacturer and
spec on the silicone hose?
Hugh G. McKay III, P.E. Fellow, L.M. ASCE
Senior Consultant
Worldwide Engineering Inc.
4090 North NC Hwy. 16
Denver, NC 28037
Ph. 704-661-8271
Fax 704-483-5466
email hgmckay@bellsouth.net
http://www.wwegeo.com
From: Pete Christensen
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 9:49 PM
Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: Coolant Hose
Kitfox III, no problems. I add an ounce or two of coolant once in
awhile. 9 years using silicone.
Pete
On Jan 14, 2017, at 5:38 PM, Hugh McKay <hgmckay@bellsouth.net> wrote:
I am replacing the large 1 inch inside =C2=9Ddiameter coolant hose on
my 912 engine. All of this large coolant hose and the radiator is under
the cowl in my Allegro 2000 so the ambient operating temperature is much
higher than an exposed 912 engine. I have looked into using silicone
hose because of its higher temperature rating but I have found out that
the water permeation rate through silicone hose is 10 to 15 times normal
2 ply heater hose. The temperature rating on normal 2 ply hose is only
125 degrees C, where the silicone hose is rated at 170 degrees C +/-. Is
anyone out there using silicone coolant hose? If so what is your
experience? If you are not using silicone hose what have you replaced
the original Rotax hose with?
Hugh G. McKay III
Ph. 704-661-8271
Fax 704-483-5466
email hgmckay@bellsouth.net
<Hugh.vcf>
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Subject: | Re: Coolant Hose |
John,
Is your engine fully cowled 912? What is the manufacturer and spec of the
"blue" silicone hose?
Hugh G. McKay III, P.E. Fellow, L.M. ASCE
Senior Consultant
Worldwide Engineering Inc.
4090 North NC Hwy. 16
Denver, NC 28037
Ph. 704-661-8271
Fax 704-483-5466
email hgmckay@bellsouth.net
http://www.wwegeo.com
-----Original Message-----
From: John Elling
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 3:45 AM
Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: Coolant Hose
I've replaces all the coolant and oil hoses with the "blue" silicone
from various autoparts catalogs. No problems. You can get
pre-fabricated bends as needed. Makes for a nice clean install....
--
John Elling
590 Monte Alto
Santa Fe, NM 87501-6172
Ph. (505) 670-0232
Fx. (206) 339-4045
john@elling.net
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Subject: | Re: Coolant Hose |
Hugh,
I purchased the hoses from Stefan Ingemarsson (ingemarsson@gmail.com
<mailto:ingemarsson@gmail.com>). The set he sells is specific to the
Europa Classic or XS.
The Europa is a tractor, cowled installation.
The radiator is located below the engine.
On Jan 15, 2017, at 3:57 PM, Hugh McKay <hgmckay@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Bob,
Did the hoses come on the engine or did you install them? Is your engine
a tractor or pusher? Is it under a cowl?
Hugh G. McKay III, P.E. Fellow, L.M. ASCE
Senior Consultant
Worldwide Engineering Inc.
4090 North NC Hwy. 16
Denver, NC 28037
Ph. 704-661-8271
Fax 704-483-5466
email hgmckay@bellsouth.net
http://www.wwegeo.com
From: Robert Borger <mailto:rlborger@mac.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 9:37 PM
<mailto:rotaxengines-list@matronics.com>
Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: Coolant Hose
Hugh,
FWIW, all the coolant hoses on my 914 are silicone. They seem to be
working just fine, no problems at all.
Blue skies & tailwinds,
Bob Borger
Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop (75 hrs).
Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208-5331
Cel: 817-992-1117
rlborger@mac.com <mailto:rlborger@mac.com>
On Jan 14, 2017, at 5:38 PM, Hugh McKay <hgmckay@bellsouth.net
<mailto:hgmckay@bellsouth.net>> wrote:
I am replacing the large 1 inch inside =C3=AF=C2=C2=BDdiameter
coolant hose on my 912 engine. All of this large coolant hose and the
radiator is under the cowl in my Allegro 2000 so the ambient operating
temperature is much higher than an exposed 912 engine. I have looked
into using silicone hose because of its higher temperature rating but I
have found out that the water permeation rate through silicone hose is
10 to 15 times normal 2 ply heater hose. The temperature rating on
normal 2 ply hose is only 125 degrees C, where the silicone hose is
rated at 170 degrees C +/-. Is anyone out there using silicone coolant
hose? If so what is your experience? If you are not using silicone hose
what have you replaced the original Rotax hose with?
Hugh G. McKay III
Ph. 704-661-8271
Fax 704-483-5466
email hgmckay@bellsouth.net <mailto:hgmckay@bellsouth.net>
<Hugh.vcf>
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Subject: | Re: Coolant Hose |
Hugh,
My engine is fully cowled. Don't know the specs on the hoses. Got them at a s
emi truck parts house. Plane did not come with silicone.
Pete
> On Jan 15, 2017, at 4:00 PM, Hugh McKay <hgmckay@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> Pete, I assume your engine is fully cowled. Did you install the silicone h
ose or was it original on your engine. Do you know the manufacturer and spec
on the silicone hose?
>
> Hugh G. McKay III, P.E. Fellow, L.M. ASCE
> Senior Consultant
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