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1. 05:51 AM - Re: Rotax Cylinder Head temperature gauge (h&jeuropa)
2. 06:02 AM - Re: Coolant Hose (Roger Lee)
3. 06:21 AM - Re: Re: Rotax Cylinder Head temperature gauge (Hugh McKay)
4. 06:30 AM - Re: Re: Rotax Cylinder Head temperature gauge (blumax008)
5. 08:55 AM - Re: Re: Rotax Cylinder Head temperature gauge (bro Sister)
6. 04:21 PM - Re: RotaxEngines-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 01/16/17 (John Albury)
7. 04:30 PM - Re: Re: RotaxEngines-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 01/16/17 (John Albury)
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax Cylinder Head temperature gauge |
Hugh,
You can check your temp gauge by testing it in boiling water.
Jim Butcher
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| Subject: | Re: Coolant Hose |
Hi Huge,
If you would be willing to share this experience it might help others.
--------
Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
Rotax Instructor & Rotax IRC
Light Sport Repairman
Home 520-574-1080 TRY HOME FIRST
Cell 520-349-7056
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax Cylinder Head temperature gauge |
Jim,
How do I do that?
Hugh G. McKay III, P.E. Fellow, L.M. ASCE
Senior Consultant
Worldwide Engineering Inc.
4090 North NC Hwy. 16
Denver, NC 28037
Ph. 704-661-8271
Fax 704-483-5466
email hgmckay@bellsouth.net
http://www.wwegeo.com
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From: h&jeuropa
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 8:50 AM
Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Rotax Cylinder Head temperature gauge
Hugh,
You can check your temp gauge by testing it in boiling water.
Jim Butcher
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax Cylinder Head temperature gauge |
Hi.
Just my way of "benchtesting any water probe"
I tested mine by.Removing the inside instrument cluster gauge from the craf
t (note the wiring for that gauge setup ) removed the probe from the engine
block with care.. . (1) using a electronic digital home/kitchen thermomet
er and a (2) you will need 12 volt battery for wiring hookup (i used my mo
torcycle battery) (3) hook up the wiring to the gauge and to the probe and
the battery as per schematic diagram for that type of gauge. Remeber to gro
und your gauge by using a Small alligator clip type. get it all set up "BEF
ORE " heating the water.(4) Use a 12 inch diameter dipper with about 2 inch
es of regular tap water in it. turn the electric stove on "low" temperature
first. ( possibly,use oven mitts to prevent hot steam while doing testing)
use a piece of string to just put the engine probe into about 1/2 inch in
the water, again make sure that just the lower part ONLY of the probe just
touch the water (remember these probes operate on electric resistance me
asurement) also put your electronic cooking gauge in the water (tie the co
oking electronic gauge to the handle of the dipper to prevent it from falli
ng into the water,if this happens you will most likely ruin your cooking th
ermometer). as the water continue to heat up slowlyyyyyyy from cooler to ho
tter it will show precisely on the cooking thermometer. At the same time wa
tch VISUALALLY and compare it to the Craft instrument gauge thst you are te
sting,this will tell you if the sensor and also if the gauge is working pr
operly, this will do 2 tests for you,it will show if it is both working acc
uracy.
Fr
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Sent: January 17, 2017 2:20 PM
Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Rotax Cylinder Head temperature gauge
t>
Jim,
How do I do that?
Hugh G. McKay III, P.E. Fellow, L.M. ASCE
Senior Consultant
Worldwide Engineering Inc.
4090 North NC Hwy. 16
Denver, NC 28037
Ph. 704-661-8271
Fax 704-483-5466
email hgmckay@bellsouth.net
http://www.wwegeo.com
-----Original Message-----
From: h&jeuropa
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 8:50 AM
Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Rotax Cylinder Head temperature gauge
>
Hugh,
You can check your temp gauge by testing it in boiling water.
Jim Butcher
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=C2- =C2- 1. 05:41 AM - Re: Rotax Cylinder Head temperature gauge=C2-
(Roger Lee)
=C2- =C2- 2. 05:49 AM - Re: Coolant Hose=C2- (Roger Lee)
=C2- =C2- 3. 06:32 AM - Re: Re: Coolant Hose=C2- (Max Free)
=C2- =C2- 4. 11:06 AM - Re: Coolant Hose=C2- (Roger Lee)
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Time: 05:41:49 AM PST US
Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Rotax Cylinder Head temperature gauge
From: "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1@yahoo.com>
I'm with Jetguy. Try them and see what they read.
--------
Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
Rotax Instructor & Rotax IRC
Light Sport Repairman
Home 520-574-1080=C2- TRY HOME FIRST
Cell 520-349-7056
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Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Coolant Hose
From: "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1@yahoo.com>
99% of the Rotax engines don't use silicone coolant hoses and they have run
just
fine since 1990. Just use a good grade of 1" coolant hose. If the hose is n
ot
at least 2" away from and exhaust pipe put some heat shield on that area. H
oses
like Gates Green Stripe are 4 ply.
Silicone hoses won't hurt, but aren't necessary.
You are supposed to be changing hoses every 5 years along with other rubber
parts.
Not doing this is a roll of the dice. I think you just found out that isn't
worth it.
If this was an issue the entire Rotax engine users around the world would b
e busting
hoses.
--------
Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
Rotax Instructor & Rotax IRC
Light Sport Repairman
Home 520-574-1080=C2- TRY HOME FIRST
Cell 520-349-7056
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=465135#465135
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Time: 06:32:46 AM PST US
From: "Max Free" <mcointe@free.fr>
Subject: RE: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Coolant Hose
> 99% of the Rotax engines don't use silicone coolant hoses and they have
run just fine since 1990.
So true ! but
> You are supposed to be changing hoses every 5 years along with other
rubber parts. Not doing this is a roll of the dice. I think you just found
out that isn't worth it.
Silicone hoses don't have time limits so you can avoid to change them
according to legal authorities...
Cordialement
Max=C2- Cointe
mcointe@free.fr
F-PLDJ DynAro MCR 4S
Kit #27-2002 1850 heures 912ULSFR/e-Props D100M
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[mailto:owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com] De la part de Roger
Lee
Envoy: lundi 16 janvier 2017 14:49
: rotaxengines-list@matronics.com
Objet: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Coolant Hose
99% of the Rotax engines don't use silicone coolant hoses and they have run
just fine since 1990. Just use a good grade of 1" coolant hose. If the hose
is not at least 2" away from and exhaust pipe put some heat shield on that
area. Hoses like Gates Green Stripe are 4 ply.
Silicone hoses won't hurt, but aren't necessary.
You are supposed to be changing hoses every 5 years along with other rubber
parts. Not doing this is a roll of the dice. I think you just found out tha
t
isn't worth it.
If this was an issue the entire Rotax engine users around the world would b
e
busting hoses.
--------
Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
Rotax Instructor & Rotax IRC
Light Sport Repairman
Home 520-574-1080=C2- TRY HOME FIRST
Cell 520-349-7056
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=465135#465135
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Time: 11:06:40 AM PST US
Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Coolant Hose
From: "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1@yahoo.com>
But you still have fuel, oil and the 17mm coolant hoses which there is no g
ood
US equivalent. You have carb rubber sockets, engine mounts, carb diaphragm,
carb
balance tube rubber.
As an example real Teflon hoses for an RV12 fuel system will run $550 (appr
oximately).
Those still have to go into fire sleeve and so would oil hoses. Most of
the time leaks and cracking show up at the clamped area and not mid hose un
less
the hose is being rubbed or too close to an exhaust pipe. How do you inspec
t
hose under fire sleeve and under a clamp?
For $550 I can buy all my hoses a couple times over and that would take car
e of
me for 10-15 years.
Flying safe and with some peace of mind is worth your time. If you can't af
ford
to keep a plane's maint. up then flying may not be the best hobby for you.
Throwing
any old piece of hose you can on the engine and clamping it in place may
make you a hazard waiting to hurt you and your passenger not to mention the
high cost of any repair.
Ask Huge what all this is going to cost by the time he's done?
--------
Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
Rotax Instructor & Rotax IRC
Light Sport Repairman
Home 520-574-1080=C2- TRY HOME FIRST
Cell 520-349-7056
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| Subject: | Re: RotaxEngines-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 01/16/17 |
Roger, I think the reason why some of us are=C2-considering=C2-silicone
coolant hoses is because the would last longer thus moving away from the 5
year replacement. What do you think?John
On Tuesday, January 17, 2017 6:22 PM, John Albury <jetguy@att.net> wrot
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=C2- =C2- 1. 05:41 AM - Re: Rotax Cylinder Head temperature gauge=C2-
(Roger Lee)
=C2- =C2- 2. 05:49 AM - Re: Coolant Hose=C2- (Roger Lee)
=C2- =C2- 3. 06:32 AM - Re: Re: Coolant Hose=C2- (Max Free)
=C2- =C2- 4. 11:06 AM - Re: Coolant Hose=C2- (Roger Lee)
________________________________=C2- Message 1=C2- ____________________
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Time: 05:41:49 AM PST US
Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Rotax Cylinder Head temperature gauge
From: "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1@yahoo.com>
I'm with Jetguy. Try them and see what they read.
--------
Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
Rotax Instructor & Rotax IRC
Light Sport Repairman
Home 520-574-1080=C2- TRY HOME FIRST
Cell 520-349-7056
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=465133#465133
________________________________=C2- Message 2=C2- ____________________
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Time: 05:49:08 AM PST US
Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Coolant Hose
From: "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1@yahoo.com>
99% of the Rotax engines don't use silicone coolant hoses and they have run
just
fine since 1990. Just use a good grade of 1" coolant hose. If the hose is n
ot
at least 2" away from and exhaust pipe put some heat shield on that area. H
oses
like Gates Green Stripe are 4 ply.
Silicone hoses won't hurt, but aren't necessary.
You are supposed to be changing hoses every 5 years along with other rubber
parts.
Not doing this is a roll of the dice. I think you just found out that isn't
worth it.
If this was an issue the entire Rotax engine users around the world would b
e busting
hoses.
--------
Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
Rotax Instructor & Rotax IRC
Light Sport Repairman
Home 520-574-1080=C2- TRY HOME FIRST
Cell 520-349-7056
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=465135#465135
________________________________=C2- Message 3=C2- ____________________
_________________
Time: 06:32:46 AM PST US
From: "Max Free" <mcointe@free.fr>
Subject: RE: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Coolant Hose
> 99% of the Rotax engines don't use silicone coolant hoses and they have
run just fine since 1990.
So true ! but
> You are supposed to be changing hoses every 5 years along with other
rubber parts. Not doing this is a roll of the dice. I think you just found
out that isn't worth it.
Silicone hoses don't have time limits so you can avoid to change them
according to legal authorities...
Cordialement
Max=C2- Cointe
mcointe@free.fr
F-PLDJ DynAro MCR 4S
Kit #27-2002 1850 heures 912ULSFR/e-Props D100M
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[mailto:owner-rotaxengines-list-server@matronics.com] De la part de Roger
Lee
Envoy: lundi 16 janvier 2017 14:49
: rotaxengines-list@matronics.com
Objet: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Coolant Hose
99% of the Rotax engines don't use silicone coolant hoses and they have run
just fine since 1990. Just use a good grade of 1" coolant hose. If the hose
is not at least 2" away from and exhaust pipe put some heat shield on that
area. Hoses like Gates Green Stripe are 4 ply.
Silicone hoses won't hurt, but aren't necessary.
You are supposed to be changing hoses every 5 years along with other rubber
parts. Not doing this is a roll of the dice. I think you just found out tha
t
isn't worth it.
If this was an issue the entire Rotax engine users around the world would b
e
busting hoses.
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Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
Rotax Instructor & Rotax IRC
Light Sport Repairman
Home 520-574-1080=C2- TRY HOME FIRST
Cell 520-349-7056
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Time: 11:06:40 AM PST US
Subject: RotaxEngines-List: Re: Coolant Hose
From: "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1@yahoo.com>
But you still have fuel, oil and the 17mm coolant hoses which there is no g
ood
US equivalent. You have carb rubber sockets, engine mounts, carb diaphragm,
carb
balance tube rubber.
As an example real Teflon hoses for an RV12 fuel system will run $550 (appr
oximately).
Those still have to go into fire sleeve and so would oil hoses. Most of
the time leaks and cracking show up at the clamped area and not mid hose un
less
the hose is being rubbed or too close to an exhaust pipe. How do you inspec
t
hose under fire sleeve and under a clamp?
For $550 I can buy all my hoses a couple times over and that would take car
e of
me for 10-15 years.
Flying safe and with some peace of mind is worth your time. If you can't af
ford
to keep a plane's maint. up then flying may not be the best hobby for you.
Throwing
any old piece of hose you can on the engine and clamping it in place may
make you a hazard waiting to hurt you and your passenger not to mention the
high cost of any repair.
Ask Huge what all this is going to cost by the time he's done?
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Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
Rotax Instructor & Rotax IRC
Light Sport Repairman
Home 520-574-1080=C2- TRY HOME FIRST
Cell 520-349-7056
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