RotaxEngines-List Digest Archive

Sun 11/11/18


Total Messages Posted: 3



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     0. 08:24 AM - A List Contribution - It's Your Personal Squelch Button... (Matt Dralle)
     1. 08:44 AM - 912 Fuel Manifold (John Elling)
     2. 01:33 PM - Re: 912 Fuel Manifold (Richard Girard)
 
 
 


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    Time: 08:24:48 AM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: A List Contribution - It's Your Personal Squelch Button...
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    Time: 08:44:22 AM PST US
    Subject: 912 Fuel Manifold
    From: John Elling <jelling@newmexico.com>
    The original builder of my titan tornado did not include a fuel manifold with fuel return line. Rotax does not like this so I've been planning to add one along the lines of the figure in section 1.4.1 of the installation manual Fuel Systems. I figure I can also add a fuel pressure gauge while I'm at it. I'm concerned that the fuel pressure gauge handle the old pump (which I have, max 5.8 psi) and the new pump if I ever need it. It looks like the UMA fuel sensor and gauges are calibrated for the 5.8 psi max. How have you dealt with this? What is the fuel pressure sensor for?


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    Time: 01:33:45 PM PST US
    From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: 912 Fuel Manifold
    John, I think the fuel pressure gauge is there to make sure you don't over power the needle valve. When I added the feedback line to a Just Aircraft Escapade I had no way to run the line back to one of the wing tanks so I ran it to the line before the header tank. This turned out to be a big mistake as the feedback line would allow the fuel to flow backward, bypass the fuel shut off valve and keep the needle valves always under pressure. I wasn't able to solve it until the owner added a different header tank and I was able to plumb it so that there was an airspace in the top of the tank to act as a suction break . Since you're doing an ELSA (of EAB) airplane I'd suggest you look at the function of the Rotax parts. They charge a ton for them (almost $200 for all the parts necessary) and you can get the same function with a Tee and three barbed fittings. Modify one barbed fitting so the through hole is reduced to about .050" and you've done the same thing the Rotax parts do for one tenth the price. If you have to add a second fuel pump consider using a Facet 40104 that has a maximum pressure of 4 1/2 psi. It has no check valve so if it should fail fuel continues to flow right through it. I've tested it with the Rotax fuel pump on the Escapade and when I added a Mikuni pulse pump to my trike. In both I shut off the Facet to test its effect at maximum climb angle and the engine in both cases just kept on humming along. Rick Girard On Sun, Nov 11, 2018 at 10:48 AM John Elling <jelling@newmexico.com> wrote: > jelling@newmexico.com> > > The original builder of my titan tornado did not include a fuel manifold > with fuel return line. Rotax does not like this so I've been planning > to add one along the lines of the figure in section 1.4.1 of the > installation manual Fuel Systems. I figure I can also add a fuel > pressure gauge while I'm at it. > > I'm concerned that the fuel pressure gauge handle the old pump (which I > have, max 5.8 psi) and the new pump if I ever need it. It looks like > the UMA fuel sensor and gauges are calibrated for the 5.8 psi max. How > have you dealt with this? > > What is the fuel pressure sensor for? =========== =========== =========== =========== =========== =========== > > -- =9CBlessed are the cracked, for they shall let in the light.=9D Groucho Marx <http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/43244.Groucho_Marx>




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