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1. 04:41 AM - Re: It's here! (Lynwood Stagg)
2. 05:45 AM - Re: It's here! (Curt Hoffman)
3. 05:51 AM - Re: RV Flying - inspirational LONG (Lenleg@aol.com)
4. 06:59 AM - Re: It's here! (Bob Hassel)
5. 08:19 AM - Help wanted (employment) (Aircraft Technical Book Company)
6. 09:15 AM - Stiffening tip-up canopy - yes or no (PeterHunt1@aol.com)
7. 09:28 AM - Re: RV Flying - inspirational LONG (Brian Denk)
8. 09:43 AM - Re: Stiffening tip-up canopy - yes or no (rv6tc)
9. 10:03 AM - Flying comment (KostaLewis)
10. 10:47 AM - Re: Stiffening tip-up canopy - yes or no (Jerry Springer)
11. 10:58 AM - Re: Flying comment (RV6 Flyer)
12. 11:10 AM - Re: LASAR ignition wiring (RV4PatA@aol.com)
13. 11:28 AM - Re: Stiffening tip-up canopy - yes or no (Norman)
14. 11:56 AM - Re: Flying comment (Bruce Gray)
15. 12:09 PM - Re: Flying comment (Paul Besing)
16. 01:25 PM - Re: Stiffening tip-up canopy - yes or no (Jerry Calvert)
17. 01:30 PM - Re: It's here! (Tom & Cathy Ervin)
18. 01:31 PM - Re: It's here! (Tom & Cathy Ervin)
19. 02:30 PM - Re: Stiffening tip-up canopy - yes or no (Abwaldal@aol.com)
20. 04:16 PM - TEAM RV (RGray67968@aol.com)
21. 04:33 PM - Re: TEAM RV (Vanremog@aol.com)
22. 05:10 PM - Re: TEAM RV (Dr. Leathers)
23. 05:38 PM - Re: TEAM RV (Sam Buchanan)
24. 05:40 PM - slightly off topic - what's latin for "flying machine" ? (Amit Dagan)
25. 05:49 PM - Re: Flying comment (Rjcaptjoel@aol.com)
26. 06:12 PM - Re: Flying comment ()
27. 06:22 PM - Re: slightly off topic - what's latin for "flying machine" ? (Kysh)
28. 06:26 PM - Re: slightly off topic - what's latin for "flying machine" (Tedd McHenry)
29. 09:08 PM - Re: slightly off topic - what's latin for "flying machine" ? (Vanremog@aol.com)
30. 09:13 PM - Al Renner (Joe Kramer)
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Lynwood Stagg" <woody6@yahoo.com>
Also 12. Put a dimple where there was (previously) no hole. DOH!
Woody
--> RV-List message posted by: "rv6tc" <rv6tc@earthlink.net>
Marks's right.......
'cept he forgot 11. Dimpled the wrong side of the skin.
Keith
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Phillips" <ripsteel@edge.net>
>
> ...oh no you're not- not til you've:
>
> 1. Ordered at least your 5th screw-up replacement from Oregon
> 2. Drilled the 3rd hole in a finger or hand
> 3. Been in a -list flame war
> 4. Decided to switch primers
> 5. Built 2 left parts when it's supposed to be L & R
> 6. Drilled out your 50th rivet
> 7. De-burred your 1000th hole
> 8. Bitched about the plans
> 9. Surrendered & called the hotline
> 10. Etc...
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Curt Hoffman" <choffman9@cinci.rr.com>
And most importantly-
13- had a discussion with your spouse about priorities and where you are
spending your time.
Curt Hoffman
RV-9A wings
1968 Mustang 302 convertible
Piper Cherokee N5320W
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lynwood Stagg" <woody6@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: It's here!
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Lynwood Stagg" <woody6@yahoo.com>
>
> Also 12. Put a dimple where there was (previously) no hole. DOH!
>
> Woody
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "rv6tc" <rv6tc@earthlink.net>
>
> Marks's right.......
>
> 'cept he forgot 11. Dimpled the wrong side of the skin.
>
> Keith
>
> Do not archive
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Phillips" <ripsteel@edge.net>
> >
> > ...oh no you're not- not til you've:
> >
> > 1. Ordered at least your 5th screw-up replacement from Oregon
> > 2. Drilled the 3rd hole in a finger or hand
> > 3. Been in a -list flame war
> > 4. Decided to switch primers
> > 5. Built 2 left parts when it's supposed to be L & R
> > 6. Drilled out your 50th rivet
> > 7. De-burred your 1000th hole
> > 8. Bitched about the plans
> > 9. Surrendered & called the hotline
> > 10. Etc...
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV Flying - inspirational LONG |
--> RV-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
Alex:
I recently had a similar experience already in my newly flying 8A.
I was approx 20 miles inbound for landing when I heard another plane (Cessna)
call for landing close to my psoition. The tower called out traffic which I
then located. The Cessna could not find me and told the controller.
The controller came back saying "Experimental is no longer a factor ... he is
passing you now at about 50 knots faster". Oh yes !!!! I landed, fueled up,
started taxing back to my hanger and the Cessna was on final !!!!
Love my RV !!!!
Len Leggette RV-8A
N901LL
Greensboro, N.C.
31 hours !!
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Hassel" <bob@hassel-usa.com>
13 - is optional since, for some of us the spouse is right there beside us
helping in the building process.
Bob Hassel
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From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Curt Hoffman
Subject: Re: RV-List: It's here!
--> RV-List message posted by: "Curt Hoffman" <choffman9@cinci.rr.com>
And most importantly-
13- had a discussion with your spouse about priorities and where you are
spending your time.
Curt Hoffman
RV-9A wings
1968 Mustang 302 convertible
Piper Cherokee N5320W
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lynwood Stagg" <woody6@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: It's here!
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Lynwood Stagg" <woody6@yahoo.com>
>
> Also 12. Put a dimple where there was (previously) no hole. DOH!
>
> Woody
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "rv6tc" <rv6tc@earthlink.net>
>
> Marks's right.......
>
> 'cept he forgot 11. Dimpled the wrong side of the skin.
>
> Keith
>
> Do not archive
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Phillips" <ripsteel@edge.net>
> >
> > ...oh no you're not- not til you've:
> >
> > 1. Ordered at least your 5th screw-up replacement from Oregon
> > 2. Drilled the 3rd hole in a finger or hand
> > 3. Been in a -list flame war
> > 4. Decided to switch primers
> > 5. Built 2 left parts when it's supposed to be L & R
> > 6. Drilled out your 50th rivet
> > 7. De-burred your 1000th hole
> > 8. Bitched about the plans
> > 9. Surrendered & called the hotline
> > 10. Etc...
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Help wanted (employment) |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Aircraft Technical Book Company" <winterland@rkymtnhi.com>
Ladies & Gentlemen,
Builder's Bookstore, (which I now consider a division of Aircraft Technical
Book Company) has long ago outgrown its meager surroundings which it still
occupies in the basement of my house; and has also long ago outgrown the
services available to it, which to date has been completely provided by me
and my wife (Nancy) It is now well past time to take the next step.
Unfortunately, even though living in Winter Park, CO has far more benefits
than not, the availability of professional minded help is scarce. We are a
town of part time ski bums and retired millionaires. So just on the chance
that this list might include a few airplane savy people who like to live
outside the box; here goes:
We have three basic positions available; two in Winter Park, and one class
of position which can be done anywhere (worldwide).
1] (in Winter Park) Customer Service & Order Processing
Talking to customers on the phone ranging from RV Builders, to university
department heads, to international distributors. Answering semi-technical
questions, making recommendations, resolving order related problems. (NOT
phone sales). Also handling daily order processing and shipping.
2] (in Winter Park) IFR charting specialist
Our expanded relation with Jeppesen (we are now among a handful of worldwide
top tier Jeppesen dealers enjoying the highest discount levels possible)
leaves a gapping hole in our catalog. That is with Jeppesen's main product,
IFR charting services. We need someone very familiar with instrument
navigation and all the latest paper and digital technology on an air carrier
through individual level, who can build and work that department.
3] (from anywhere; worldwide - almost) Marketing Reps
Particularly to high schools. Your job would be to work with high school
Industrial Arts departments in what will be your exclusive territory, to
develop new 11th and 12th grade courses in aviation technology. We'll
provide everything you need including a complete day-day instructor's
syllabus. Of course, the income potential is in providing the text books
for those classes.
Want to know more about these jobs? Want to know more about life in Winter
Park? (golf, fishing, skiing, hiking, climbing, fresh air, good schools,
zero crime, an active RV flyers club - 5 flying, another near completion)
Call or write back privately to:
Andy Gold
agold@ACtechbooks.com
970 887-2207
do not archive
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| Subject: | Stiffening tip-up canopy - yes or no |
--> RV-List message posted by: PeterHunt1@aol.com
I am at the point of deciding whether or not to stiffen my tip-up canopy and
need some advice. I am installing gas shocks to open my tip-up canopy.
Should I also stiffen the canopy or is that not necessary with the gas
shocks? If I do stiffen the canopy I plan to follow Sam's idea of plywood
(instead of foam) and fiberglass in the Wd-616A channel. What say ye of
experience? Is stiffening the canopy important?
Pete Hunt
RV-6 N216PH (reserved)
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| Subject: | Re: RV Flying - inspirational LONG |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Denk" <akroguy@hotmail.com>
>
>Alex:
>
>I recently had a similar experience already in my newly flying 8A.
>
>I was approx 20 miles inbound for landing when I heard another plane
>(Cessna)
>call for landing close to my psoition. The tower called out traffic which
>I
>then located. The Cessna could not find me and told the controller.
>
>The controller came back saying "Experimental is no longer a factor ... he
>is
>passing you now at about 50 knots faster". Oh yes !!!! I landed, fueled
>up,
>started taxing back to my hanger and the Cessna was on final !!!!
>
>Love my RV !!!!
>
>Len Leggette RV-8A
And to add to these grin generating flights...
While #2 for landing on a long final, I hear the following from tower:
"Experimental 94BD, could you give me a 360? You're overtaking a KING AIR."
Love it!
Drill 'em, pound 'em and sand 'em folks. You're building a WONDERFUL
airplane.
Brian Denk
RV8 N94BD
down to fix VAL radio.
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| Subject: | Re: Stiffening tip-up canopy - yes or no |
--> RV-List message posted by: "rv6tc" <rv6tc@earthlink.net>
yes.... you need to stiffen the canopy frame. I did foam and fiberglass,
don't know about other methods, but it does need to be stiffened.
Keith Hughes
RV-6 Finish
Denver
----- Original Message -----
From: <PeterHunt1@aol.com>
Subject: RV-List: Stiffening tip-up canopy - yes or no
> --> RV-List message posted by: PeterHunt1@aol.com
>
> Should I also stiffen the canopy or is that not necessary with the gas
> shocks?
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--> RV-List message posted by: "KostaLewis" <mikel@dimensional.com>
>I was approx 20 miles inbound for landing when I heard another plane
>(Cessna) call for landing close to my psoition. The tower called out
>traffic which I then located. The Cessna could not find me and told
the >controller.
With this in mind, I have changed the way I call in to report position
to an uncontrolled airport. I usually report 10 miles out. These
aircraft are FAST and saying you are 10 miles out really means nothing,
unless someone else is 10 miles out and needs to know you are in their
neighborhood.
I have now added how soon I can be expected in the pattern area: "Erie
traffic, Experimental 232 Suzie Q; we are 10 miles northwest at 65
hundred inbound; we'll be landing Erie in four minutes." When they hear
"Experimental" they don't know if you are a Flybaby or a Lancair or
what. And even if they know what kind of airplane you are, now they know
when they can start looking for you in the pattern. And anything helps.
IMHO
Michael
You builders: file this and keep building. You'll be up here some day
soon.
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| Subject: | Re: Stiffening tip-up canopy - yes or no |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
I won't say yea or nay, just that I have gas struts and NO stiffners. Has worked
great since 1989. Only thing that I well say is that the stiffners do allow you
to be able to finish the raw edges of the canopy frame if you so choose.
Jerry Springer|RV-6 Flying
rv6tc wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "rv6tc" <rv6tc@earthlink.net>
>
> yes.... you need to stiffen the canopy frame. I did foam and fiberglass,
> don't know about other methods, but it does need to be stiffened.
>
> Keith Hughes
> RV-6 Finish
> Denver
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <PeterHunt1@aol.com>
> To: <rv-list-digest@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV-List: Stiffening tip-up canopy - yes or no
>
>
>
>>--> RV-List message posted by: PeterHunt1@aol.com
>>
>
>
>>Should I also stiffen the canopy or is that not necessary with the gas
>>shocks?
>
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| Subject: | Re: Flying comment |
--> RV-List message posted by: "RV6 Flyer" <rv6_flyer@hotmail.com>
>I was approx 20 miles inbound for landing when I heard another plane
>(Cessna) call for landing close to my psoition. The tower called out
>traffic which I then located. The Cessna could not find me and told
the >controller.
I typically will report in, RV 157GS EXPERIMENTAL 10 miles out, will be
overhead in 3 minutes. I always use RV 157GS then EXPERIMENTAL for the
initial call. Only use RV 7GS or RV 157GS there after.
Many times ATC will report traffic 12 o'clock your overtaking them by 40
knots. Have had a contol tower ask me to reduce airspeed 10 knots when I
was 6 miles out.
Recently had a departing student report "CCB Traffic, Cessna 123 turning
left crosswind rwy 24, CCB." I report just after, "CCB traffic, RV 7GS left
crosswind over 6 for Downwind 24 inside the Cessna CCB." The student called
back asking my position and I responded that I had them in sight, no factor
and that we are indicating 120 knots. (Turn to downwind drops airspeed to
80 KIAS for flaps.) I was just exiting the runway as they called turing
final. Gas was already flowing into my airplane as they exited the runway.
Gary A. Sobek
"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell,
1,225 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA
http://SoCAL_WVAF.rvproject.com
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| Subject: | Re: LASAR ignition wiring |
--> RV-List message posted by: RV4PatA@aol.com
In a message dated 12/21/2 2:15:19 AM, rlglass@alaska.net writes:
<<How does one wire the p-leads for a LASAR ignition? I want to use toggle
switches for each magneto and a push-button starter>>
Don't forget to mount the toggle switches so that the closed position is with
the toggle down (unlike all the other switches) so the mag is grounded when
in the off position. It's an easy thing to overlook. Ask me how I know.
Pat Allender - 98 Hr. with LASAR and toggle switches on RV-4
Message 13
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| Subject: | Re: Stiffening tip-up canopy - yes or no |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Norman" <nhunger@sprint.ca>
Don't know if it needs to be or not. I seem to have read many times that it
needs to be and how to go about doing it.
I filled mine in with foam and glassed it smooth then filled it smoother.
Installed a couple of defrost fans flush with the new surface. They are
positioned to draw air from behind the panel and blow onto the bubble. Tests
are showing they move alot of air, I might put them on a reostat to tune
them down.
1 I feel there will be plenty of warm air there from the radios and
electronics to use as a defroster
2 If I need more warm air for defrost, the area behind the panel can be
heat soaked by adding more cabin heat which enters the cabin below and
behind the panel.
3 If there is an avionics cooling problem I now have a meathod of
exhausting the area
I then covered it all in upolstery to get a nice finished look. On of my
dislikes of the tip up canopy is the "homebuilt" look when open. I am
attempting to get away from that by doing a full cover interior for the
whole frame including the sidewalls. The canopy frame bow that sits in front
of the roll bar is white painted to match the roll bar. It mounts two of the
LED map lights that Van used to sell. They are controlled off the stick and
also act as back up panel lights. My roll bar also has a finished look by
filling in the gap, it is smooth on all sides and painted white.
Norman Hunger
RV6A Tip Up
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Bruce Gray" <Bruce@glasair.org>
I report as 'Experimental Glasair 53BG, 20 west, 250 knots, landing'.
That usually brings a request to slow to 160 knots.
Bruce
www.glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of KostaLewis
Subject: RV-List: Flying comment
--> RV-List message posted by: "KostaLewis" <mikel@dimensional.com>
>I was approx 20 miles inbound for landing when I heard another plane
>(Cessna) call for landing close to my psoition. The tower called out
>traffic which I then located. The Cessna could not find me and told
the >controller.
With this in mind, I have changed the way I call in to report position
to an uncontrolled airport. I usually report 10 miles out. These
aircraft are FAST and saying you are 10 miles out really means nothing,
unless someone else is 10 miles out and needs to know you are in their
neighborhood.
I have now added how soon I can be expected in the pattern area: "Erie
traffic, Experimental 232 Suzie Q; we are 10 miles northwest at 65
hundred inbound; we'll be landing Erie in four minutes." When they hear
"Experimental" they don't know if you are a Flybaby or a Lancair or
what. And even if they know what kind of airplane you are, now they know
when they can start looking for you in the pattern. And anything helps.
IMHO
Michael
You builders: file this and keep building. You'll be up here some day
soon.
=
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| Subject: | Re: Flying comment |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Besing" <azpilot@extremezone.com>
I don't recall who it was that said this, and it may not be true, but here
goes.
I heard that due to the large number of RV's flying, there was a
communication from the FAA to all controllers what an RV was, and that RV's
could report as "Anywhere tower, RV2388X" instead of reporting "Experimental
2388X" or "Experimental RV 2388X". This communication was to let
controllers know who weren't familiar with an RV that they are commonplace
enough to eliminate the "Experimental" from the call sign, so not be
confused with a much slower experimental.
Even if it is not true, I think that this is happening more and more
everyday. Gotta love them RV's.
Paul Besing
RV-6A Sold (Waiting on the RV-10)
http://www.lacodeworks.com/besing
Kitlog Pro Builder's Log Software
http://www.kitlog.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "KostaLewis" <mikel@dimensional.com>
Subject: RV-List: Flying comment
> --> RV-List message posted by: "KostaLewis" <mikel@dimensional.com>
>
> >I was approx 20 miles inbound for landing when I heard another plane
> >(Cessna) call for landing close to my psoition. The tower called out
> >traffic which I then located. The Cessna could not find me and told
> the >controller.
>
> With this in mind, I have changed the way I call in to report position
> to an uncontrolled airport. I usually report 10 miles out. These
> aircraft are FAST and saying you are 10 miles out really means nothing,
> unless someone else is 10 miles out and needs to know you are in their
> neighborhood.
>
> I have now added how soon I can be expected in the pattern area: "Erie
> traffic, Experimental 232 Suzie Q; we are 10 miles northwest at 65
> hundred inbound; we'll be landing Erie in four minutes." When they hear
> "Experimental" they don't know if you are a Flybaby or a Lancair or
> what. And even if they know what kind of airplane you are, now they know
> when they can start looking for you in the pattern. And anything helps.
>
> IMHO
>
> Michael
>
> You builders: file this and keep building. You'll be up here some day
> soon.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Stiffening tip-up canopy - yes or no |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jerry Calvert" <rv6@cox.net>
Pete,
I ordered the 3 aluminum canopy reinforcement pieces that are now used on
the -7's & -9's and put them on my -6. Much easier that messing with
fiberglass and easy to install and they really firm up the canopy.
Jerry Calvert
Edmond Ok
-6 N296JC(res)
----- Original Message -----
From: <PeterHunt1@aol.com>
Subject: RV-List: Stiffening tip-up canopy - yes or no
> --> RV-List message posted by: PeterHunt1@aol.com
>
> I am at the point of deciding whether or not to stiffen my tip-up canopy
and
> need some advice. I am installing gas shocks to open my tip-up canopy.
> Should I also stiffen the canopy or is that not necessary with the gas
> shocks? If I do stiffen the canopy I plan to follow Sam's idea of plywood
> (instead of foam) and fiberglass in the Wd-616A channel. What say ye of
> experience? Is stiffening the canopy important?
>
> Pete Hunt
> RV-6 N216PH (reserved)
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Tom & Cathy Ervin" <tcervin@valkyrie.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Hassel" <bob@hassel-usa.com>
Subject: RE: RV-List: It's here!
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Hassel" <bob@hassel-usa.com>
>
> 13 - is optional since, for some of us the spouse is right there beside us
> helping in the building process.
>
> Bob Hassel
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Curt Hoffman
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV-List: It's here!
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Curt Hoffman" <choffman9@cinci.rr.com>
>
> And most importantly-
> 13- had a discussion with your spouse about priorities and where you are
> spending your time.
>
> Curt Hoffman
> RV-9A wings
> 1968 Mustang 302 convertible
> Piper Cherokee N5320W
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lynwood Stagg" <woody6@yahoo.com>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: RV-List: It's here!
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Lynwood Stagg" <woody6@yahoo.com>
> >
> > Also 12. Put a dimple where there was (previously) no hole. DOH!
> >
> > Woody
> >
> >
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "rv6tc" <rv6tc@earthlink.net>
> >
> > Marks's right.......
> >
> > 'cept he forgot 11. Dimpled the wrong side of the skin.
> >
> > Keith
> >
> > Do not archive
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mark Phillips" <ripsteel@edge.net>
> > >
> > > ...oh no you're not- not til you've:
> > >
> > > 1. Ordered at least your 5th screw-up replacement from Oregon
> > > 2. Drilled the 3rd hole in a finger or hand
> > > 3. Been in a -list flame war
> > > 4. Decided to switch primers
> > > 5. Built 2 left parts when it's supposed to be L & R
> > > 6. Drilled out your 50th rivet
> > > 7. De-burred your 1000th hole
> > > 8. Bitched about the plans
> > > 9. Surrendered & called the hotline
> > > 10. Etc...
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Tom & Cathy Ervin" <tcervin@valkyrie.net>
Same here, Bob.
Do Not Archive Tom in Ohio
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Hassel" <bob@hassel-usa.com>
Subject: RE: RV-List: It's here!
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Hassel" <bob@hassel-usa.com>
>
> 13 - is optional since, for some of us the spouse is right there beside us
> helping in the building process.
>
> Bob Hassel
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Curt Hoffman
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV-List: It's here!
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Curt Hoffman" <choffman9@cinci.rr.com>
>
> And most importantly-
> 13- had a discussion with your spouse about priorities and where you are
> spending your time.
>
> Curt Hoffman
> RV-9A wings
> 1968 Mustang 302 convertible
> Piper Cherokee N5320W
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lynwood Stagg" <woody6@yahoo.com>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: RV-List: It's here!
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Lynwood Stagg" <woody6@yahoo.com>
> >
> > Also 12. Put a dimple where there was (previously) no hole. DOH!
> >
> > Woody
> >
> >
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "rv6tc" <rv6tc@earthlink.net>
> >
> > Marks's right.......
> >
> > 'cept he forgot 11. Dimpled the wrong side of the skin.
> >
> > Keith
> >
> > Do not archive
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mark Phillips" <ripsteel@edge.net>
> > >
> > > ...oh no you're not- not til you've:
> > >
> > > 1. Ordered at least your 5th screw-up replacement from Oregon
> > > 2. Drilled the 3rd hole in a finger or hand
> > > 3. Been in a -list flame war
> > > 4. Decided to switch primers
> > > 5. Built 2 left parts when it's supposed to be L & R
> > > 6. Drilled out your 50th rivet
> > > 7. De-burred your 1000th hole
> > > 8. Bitched about the plans
> > > 9. Surrendered & called the hotline
> > > 10. Etc...
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Stiffening tip-up canopy - yes or no |
--> RV-List message posted by: Abwaldal@aol.com
Hi Pete
I too did the three pieces of rv-7 canopy stiffening process and it really
worked good. Easy to install; just follow instructions. Don't remember the
cost. But well worth it. I've done tons of fiberglass and epoxy in the past
and would rather have something that has mechanical attachment. I would
recomend it to anybody.
Art B. Waldal
Rv-6
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--> RV-List message posted by: RGray67968@aol.com
Folks,
I thought a few of you may like to read a post to the Mid Atlantic and TEAM
RV Yahoo Groups. When I was building, stuff like this kept me down in the
basement working harder than ever (Thanks Big Time to Paul Rosales - aka
SoCal Rosie for his travel stories)! Delete or Enjoy - The choice is yours
:
). Happy Holidays to ALL
Rick Gray RV6 Ohio at the Buffalo Farm (1st flight in August, 121 hrs) lots
of loops and rolls
Mike,
Had a great time today.........thanks BIG TIME for all your help and
support. You put a great deal into this sport.........I recognize
this and appreciate ALL your efforts. Guys like me are reaping the
benefits of your efforts and willingness to share your knowledge.
Thanks Mike!!
Later.
Rick at the Buffalo Farm - come on up dude and you can stay at our
house and I'll let you ride the 'little Buffalo' -- smile
Sporty's.....NO......TEAM RV......YES,
Hey guys,
Thought I give you a little travel report from today's flight. The
wind was blowing BIG TIME here in Ohio today (and my passenger for
the planned ride to Sporty's
<A HREF="http://www.sportys.com/shoppilot/">http://www.sportys.com/shoppilot/
gets airsick real easy).....so we decided to head south for
some 'nicer' wx. Hmmmmmm, isn't TEAM RV
<A HREF="http://www.mstewart.net/michael/rv/teamrv/index.htm">http://www.mstewart.net/michael/rv/teamrv/index.htm
down in Georgia(?).......isn't that an RV in my hangar(?).......you
bet!!! Well, what are we waiting for........??
We had the airport to ourselves. Wheels up at 0640 from Parkersburg
(PKB) (don't ya' just love turning on the lights on 2 huge runways
with the click of mic button - smile).
Climbed to 8500' with Charleston Center till they dumped us somewhere
over North Carolina. Head winds kept our ground speed to 160mph but
they steadily increased to about 195 as we neared Lawrenceville, Ga.
(LZU). Smooth 20 deg cold air over the mountains, the sun rising off
to the left, and a full moon off to the right.......this is why I
built my plane (69 deg in cockpit and Yanni on the CD didn't hurt
either...grin). LZU Ok'd us for the overhead approach and a few
minutes later we were on the ground with my good buddy Mike Stewart
and new friend Steve McDonald (RV4). 2.3 hours and we're in
Georgia....somebody pinch me. Hey.....look over there! Here come some
more RV's. Mike briefed the flight......safety, Lead, Wingmen, #2,
fingertip, safety, squawk, check in, #6, safety,
questions?....safety, let's go. Before I knew it we were taxiing out
as a 6 ship (Mike/lead/RV6A, Steve/RV4, Greg Bitzer/Wingman/RV6,
Danny Kight/Wingman/RV6, Ken ?/RV6, and myself/RV6)in route to
Moontown, Alabama (3M5)
<A HREF="http://www.airnav.com/airport/3M5">http://www.airnav.com/airport/3M5
to meet up with the Tennessee RV bunch. Great opportunity for this
new guy to get some much needed formation practice. Clay Smith (RV4)
joined up about half way into the 1 hour flight to Moontown. Upon
arrival, TEAM RV made a few beautiful passes for the crowd on the
2100' grass strip which included an echelon, diamond, arrow, and the
big finale....... a STARBURST (you had to be there).....this was
spectacular!! RV's 'shooting' all over the sky!! Trailing behind
in 'loose' formation gave me a birds eye view of some awesome
precision formation work. What a display!! Upon reforming from the
Starburst Mike called the TEAM back into trail for the landing and
formation taxi, turn, & shutdown on the 'flight line'. Lots of well
deserved compliments from the crowd!! Hmmm, I wonder why - these
guys practice often and are really good. With 10 or so RV's already
on the field, our arrival just about doubled the count. Needless to
say we got to see lots of cool airplanes and flybys. The wx was
severe clear and about 60 deg. Sweet. We hung out for a couple hours
revisiting with folks we met down at SERFI
<A HREF="http://www.serfi.org/">http://www.serfi.org/
(Dennis Milsap/Robin Hunt and others)in October and of
course....making new friends. Oh yea, even Mr Sam Buchanan was
there....big smile and hand shake from Sam.......if you're asking
yourself 'who's Sam?'.....you probably don't have an RV.
<A HREF="http://home.hiwaay.net/~sbuc/journal/">http://home.hiwaay.net/~sbuc/journal/
These folks meet at Moontown every 3rd Saturday.....a great bunch
with great southern hospitality.....it doesn't get any better.
We departed as a single ship for PKB. The 425 statute mile trip home
from Alabama was just 2 hours 2 minutes with an average groundspeed
of 210mph. Sweet ride at about 7500'.......UNTIL we started descending
to PKB. ATIS report wasn't promising and a quick call on 123.7
verified that the winds were still waiting for us. 26 gusting to 34
out of 25. The turbulent descent really tested the Dramamine my
buddy 'Gary' took a few hours before, but the sick sacks stayed in
the center console....:
). My choices were 21 and 28 (I like having
a 'choice' :
)). I decided on 28 and we were cleared to land. I
wouldn't have enjoyed this moment in my Kitfox but the RV handled it
no problem. A short taxi to the pumps to top off the tanks......a few
moments later N856RG was back in the hanger. Total time on the hobbs
today was 6.6 hours.....not bad for a spur of the
moment.....er....uh...dare I say....pick up WAM - don't cha love it!
Fuel burn was 8.3 on the way down and 7.9 on the way back. The 7.9
was among the lower end of my fuel burns so far.....but it did
include the hour formation hop from Lawrenceville to Moontown at
about 2300rpm. I'm running an O-360 fixed pitch. I typically avg 8.1
to 8.3 at altitude - and lean to 20 deg rich of peak. Some folks do
better, but these are my numbers.
Let's see, rise at 4:45 am, wheels up at 6:40, Ohio to Georgia in 2.3
hours, formation w/TEAM RV (well, loose for me) to Moontown Alabama,
chit chat with good ol' boy Sam Buchanan, and back home to Ohio by
about 2:45.......I love my RV. Keep poundin' them rivets. Or keep
painting 'em, (over & over till you get one you like) as it applies
to you.....Zack :
)
Oh yea.... a plug for my new 'Jantzi' steering link....this baby is a
nice addition to my 6 and is a 'keeper'.......don't leave home
without one!
<A HREF="http://www.iwantarocket.com/">http://www.iwantarocket.com/ click on 'Products'
I'll be in flying to Jersey for the Holidays......if you folks have
something going on be sure to post.
Hope your Saturday was a good one.....Happy Holidays to the MARV
group!!!
Rick Gray RV6 Ohio at the Buffalo Farm
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--> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com
In a message dated 12/22/2002 4:17:55 PM Pacific Standard Time,
RGray67968@aol.com writes:
> Thought I give you a little travel report from today's flight. The
> wind was blowing BIG TIME here in Ohio today (and my passenger for
> the planned ride to Sporty's
Good story, but the part about having to listen to Yanni on CD brought tears
to my eyes ;
)
Do not Archive.
-GV (RV-6A N1GV 575hrs)
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Dr. Leathers" <DrLeathers@822heal.com>
I was thinking exactly the same thing! Try some old BTO next time!
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: <Vanremog@aol.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: TEAM RV
> --> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 12/22/2002 4:17:55 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> RGray67968@aol.com writes:
>
> > Thought I give you a little travel report from today's flight. The
> > wind was blowing BIG TIME here in Ohio today (and my passenger for
> > the planned ride to Sporty's
>
> Good story, but the part about having to listen to Yanni on CD brought
tears
> to my eyes ;
> )
>
> Do not Archive.
>
> -GV (RV-6A N1GV 575hrs)
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
Vanremog@aol.com wrote:
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 12/22/2002 4:17:55 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> RGray67968@aol.com writes:
>
> > Thought I give you a little travel report from today's flight. The
> > wind was blowing BIG TIME here in Ohio today (and my passenger for
> > the planned ride to Sporty's
>
> Good story, but the part about having to listen to Yanni on CD brought tears
> to my eyes ;
>
> -GV (RV-6A N1GV 575hrs)
The Yanni may be questionable, but the sound of SEVEN beautiful RVs
reverberating off the hills surrounding quaint little Moontown
International was memorable indeed!! :-) The starburst was quite a
finale (hmmmm, it did kinda remind me of how our local gaggle sometimes
arrives in the pattern at breakfast, but we don't
*intentionally*....."starburst"...).
In spite of obviously suffering from culture shock due to his rapid
transport from the frozen North to laid back and balmy Alabamy, Rick
seemed to handle his aborted flight to Sportys in fine fashion. Be sure
to take a look at Rick's plane at a flyin if you get the chance...it is
a beauty!
Rick, since you know your way to the South now, don't hesitate to
return; just get started earlier so we can escort you to one of our
weekly breakfasts. :-)
Sam Buchanan
Tennessee Valley RV Builders Group (actually based in north Alabama)
http://www.tvrvbg.org
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| Subject: | slightly off topic - what's latin for "flying machine" ? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Amit Dagan" <amitdagan@hotmail.com>
This is slightly off topic, but many of you must have seen airplane swith
names, like "Patience", "Everest" etc.
I was wondering if anyone knows what is Latin for "A Flying Machine" ?
What did Leonardo Da Vinci call his invention (IS he on the list ?;))
Thanks,
Amit.
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Flying comment |
--> RV-List message posted by: Rjcaptjoel@aol.com
I try to use a land mark when calling in a position report.
"Antique Aeronca---Experimental RV 4----Canadair Regional Jet ten miles out
over I-25, straight in runway 29 Jeff co. or over Erie tower, or Near Platte
Valley, landing Van Air.
Granted, those not familiar to the area may not know the land marks, but how
many strangers are flying these days any way?
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| Subject: | Re: Flying comment |
--> RV-List message posted by: <ktlkrn@cox.net>
The owner of the RV that is being built in my hangar is an ATC. I'll ask
him. I have also heard Lancairs and Glasairs communicate without the
"experimental" tag. Should apply to RV's for sure then.
Darwin N. Barrie
Chandler AZ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Besing" <azpilot@extremezone.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Flying comment
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Besing" <azpilot@extremezone.com>
>
> I don't recall who it was that said this, and it may not be true, but here
> goes.
>
> I heard that due to the large number of RV's flying, there was a
> communication from the FAA to all controllers what an RV was, and that
RV's
> could report as "Anywhere tower, RV2388X" instead of reporting
"Experimental
> 2388X" or "Experimental RV 2388X". This communication was to let
> controllers know who weren't familiar with an RV that they are commonplace
> enough to eliminate the "Experimental" from the call sign, so not be
> confused with a much slower experimental.
>
> Even if it is not true, I think that this is happening more and more
> everyday. Gotta love them RV's.
>
>
> Paul Besing
> RV-6A Sold (Waiting on the RV-10)
> http://www.lacodeworks.com/besing
> Kitlog Pro Builder's Log Software
> http://www.kitlog.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "KostaLewis" <mikel@dimensional.com>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV-List: Flying comment
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "KostaLewis" <mikel@dimensional.com>
> >
> > >I was approx 20 miles inbound for landing when I heard another plane
> > >(Cessna) call for landing close to my psoition. The tower called out
> > >traffic which I then located. The Cessna could not find me and told
> > the >controller.
> >
> > With this in mind, I have changed the way I call in to report position
> > to an uncontrolled airport. I usually report 10 miles out. These
> > aircraft are FAST and saying you are 10 miles out really means nothing,
> > unless someone else is 10 miles out and needs to know you are in their
> > neighborhood.
> >
> > I have now added how soon I can be expected in the pattern area: "Erie
> > traffic, Experimental 232 Suzie Q; we are 10 miles northwest at 65
> > hundred inbound; we'll be landing Erie in four minutes." When they hear
> > "Experimental" they don't know if you are a Flybaby or a Lancair or
> > what. And even if they know what kind of airplane you are, now they know
> > when they can start looking for you in the pattern. And anything helps.
> >
> > IMHO
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > You builders: file this and keep building. You'll be up here some day
> > soon.
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: slightly off topic - what's latin for "flying machine" ? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Kysh <vans-dragon@lapdragon.org>
As Amit Dagan was saying:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Amit Dagan" <amitdagan@hotmail.com>
>
> This is slightly off topic, but many of you must have seen airplane swith
> names, like "Patience", "Everest" etc.
> I was wondering if anyone knows what is Latin for "A Flying Machine" ?
> What did Leonardo Da Vinci call his invention (IS he on the list ?;))
Machinatio volatus?
I don't think there's a single word for flying machine, and I'm not sure if
the terms are combinative.
Machinavolatii? Is flawed at best. Perhaps someone else will have a better
answer. Sorry I can't be of more help.
-Kysh
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: slightly off topic - what's latin for "flying machine" |
?
--> RV-List message posted by: Tedd McHenry <tedd@vansairforce.org>
> I was wondering if anyone knows what is Latin for "A Flying Machine" ?
One transliteration would be "fabrica volitilis."
Tedd McHenry
Surrey, BC
-6 wings
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| Subject: | Re: slightly off topic - what's latin for "flying machine" ? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com
In a message dated 12/22/2002 5:40:51 PM Pacific Standard Time,
amitdagan@hotmail.com writes:
> I was wondering if anyone knows what is Latin for "A Flying Machine" ?
> What did Leonardo Da Vinci call his invention (IS he on the list ?
I remember that he was on the list, but bailed after getting flamed about
some comments he made about Bernoulli and that whole accelerated air over the
top surface thing. The last thing he said was "do not archive", so we won't.
;
)
Merry Christmas everyone!!
-GV (RV-6A N1GV 578hrs)
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Joe Kramer" <JRKramer@cox.net>
Would AL Renner in Nebraska contact Joe in Arizona regarding his RV8
kit! 623-202-8223
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