Today's Message Index:
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1. 12:00 AM - Re: Seat Bottoms (George McNutt)
2. 12:57 AM - Re: Flying comment (James E. Clark)
3. 01:12 AM - Re: Flying Comment (James E. Clark)
4. 02:12 AM - Re: Albany Or. 699WP 1st flight (Charles Rowbotham)
5. 05:11 AM - Re: Albany Or. 699WP 1st flight (mstewart@qa.butler.com)
6. 05:11 AM - Re: Flying comment (Doug Gray)
7. 05:21 AM - Re: Albany Or. 699WP 1st flight (Francis Malczynski)
8. 06:00 AM - Re: Flying comment (mstewart@qa.butler.com)
9. 07:02 AM - Re: Albany Or. 699WP 1st flight (Konrad Werner)
10. 08:04 AM - The Night Before Christmas. A pilots verse (mstewart@qa.butler.com)
11. 08:06 AM - Re: Seat Bottoms (Bert Forero)
12. 08:22 AM - Re: Flying comment (kempthornes)
13. 09:45 AM - Re: Flying comment (Jerry Springer)
14. 09:48 AM - Greetings (Tom Gummo)
15. 10:13 AM - Re: Albany Or. 699WP 1st flight (Lenleg@aol.com)
16. 10:29 AM - Re: Placement of flux detector (Don R Jordan)
17. 12:03 PM - Re: Flying comment (KostaLewis)
18. 02:42 PM - Knots or mph? (Rob W M Shipley)
19. 03:12 PM - Re: Flying comment (Camille Hawthorne)
20. 03:38 PM - New Duckworks Lights (Kyle Boatright)
21. 03:40 PM - Re: Knots or mph? (Rv8don@aol.com)
22. 03:47 PM - Re: Knots or mph? (Paul Besing)
23. 03:51 PM - Re: Knots or mph? (Tom Gummo)
24. 04:20 PM - Re: New Duckworks Lights (barry pote)
25. 04:26 PM - Re: Knots or mph? (Tedd McHenry)
26. 04:40 PM - Re: Knots or mph? (Gordon or Marge Comfort)
27. 05:37 PM - Re: Knots or mph? (Lenleg@aol.com)
28. 06:05 PM - Re: New Duckworks Lights (Carl Froehlich)
29. 06:09 PM - Re: New Duckworks Lights (Dan Checkoway)
30. 07:02 PM - Re: New Duckworks Lights (Kyle Boatright)
31. 07:46 PM - need help engine failure-forced landing in St. Louis (Tim Lewis)
32. 09:12 PM - Re: New Duckworks Lights (Norman)
33. 09:23 PM - Re: Knots or mph? (Norman)
34. 10:18 PM - Tire Replancement Suggestions (Jim Cimino)
35. 11:29 PM - Unison Support (Jeff Bertsch)
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--> RV-List message posted by: "George McNutt" <gmcnutt@intergate.ca>
--> RV-List message posted by: Richard Dudley <rhdudley@att.net>
Hi Listers,
My question is regarding the material(s) used for filling the space
under the actual seat cushions. A review of the archives did not yield
very much.
The top layers of the seat clearly need to be some sort of foam with the
most attractive (and most expensive) being Tempurfoam. However, the
space beneath the foam which is of the order of 5" (RV-6A) can be a much
firmer material and possibly rigid. An attractive material because of
its easy fabrication and lightness is the common insulation foam used in
home construction.
-------------snip-----------------------
Hi Richard
I cut and used the two inch thick home insulation (blue) in the bottom of my
seat cushions. It is about four inches thick (vertically) and topped by
three three layers of progressively softer foam rubber (two 3/8" & one 1/2"
if I remember correctly).
The blue 2" thick insulation material pieces stand vertically with about
nine pieces glued together to get the desired width of the seat cushion. The
reason that the pieces are vertical is so I could easily cut a nice
contoured top surface on each piece with my Band Saw.
The contour of the top surface was copied from a car seat that I found very
comfortable.
I am not worried about flame resistance, the home insulation material is
inside the flame resistant seat cushion material.
Advantages are, light weight, firm but comfortable, and they float.
George McNutt - 6A
Langley, B.C.
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--> RV-List message posted by: "James E. Clark" <jclark@conterra.com>
I too seemed to have read something similar some time ago (a year or two?).
I think it is also the case that experimentals are now categorized as:
HXA "Hotel X-ray Alpha" (Homebuilt, eXperimental, type Alpha ... cruise <100kts)
HXB (Homebuilt, eXperimental, type Bravo ... cruise
= 100kts - 200kts)
HXC (Homebuilt, eXperimental, type Charlie ... cruise
= >200kts)
Seems I read this about a year ago and heard something of this nature from a
controller today. When I mentioned such over the air to a different
controller a few weeks ago, it did not seem to register.
I ***MAY*** have read it in either AOPA Pilot or SPort Aviation, so if
anyone is interested in doing a "search", I would start there. Of course
someone will probably point out that I am all wrong on all of this so please
take all of this with a grain of salt.
I have also been asked (quite nicely I might add) "just what is an RV?" The
controller did not know, which is OK and was interested in knowing, which
was even MORE SO OK.
James
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of ktlkrn@cox.net
> Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2002 9:10 PM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Flying comment
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: <ktlkrn@cox.net>
>
> The owner of the RV that is being built in my hangar is an ATC. I'll ask
> him. I have also heard Lancairs and Glasairs communicate without the
> "experimental" tag. Should apply to RV's for sure then.
>
> Darwin N. Barrie
> Chandler AZ
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Besing" <azpilot@extremezone.com>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Flying comment
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Besing" <azpilot@extremezone.com>
> >
> > I don't recall who it was that said this, and it may not be
> true, but here
> > goes.
> >
> > I heard that due to the large number of RV's flying, there was a
> > communication from the FAA to all controllers what an RV was, and that
> RV's
> > could report as "Anywhere tower, RV2388X" instead of reporting
> "Experimental
> > 2388X" or "Experimental RV 2388X". This communication was to let
> > controllers know who weren't familiar with an RV that they are
> commonplace
> > enough to eliminate the "Experimental" from the call sign, so not be
> > confused with a much slower experimental.
> >
> > Even if it is not true, I think that this is happening more and more
> > everyday. Gotta love them RV's.
> >
> >
> > Paul Besing
> > RV-6A Sold (Waiting on the RV-10)
> > http://www.lacodeworks.com/besing
> > Kitlog Pro Builder's Log Software
> > http://www.kitlog.com
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "KostaLewis" <mikel@dimensional.com>
> > To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: RV-List: Flying comment
> >
> >
> > > --> RV-List message posted by: "KostaLewis" <mikel@dimensional.com>
> > >
> > > >I was approx 20 miles inbound for landing when I heard another plane
> > > >(Cessna) call for landing close to my psoition. The tower called out
> > > >traffic which I then located. The Cessna could not find me and told
> > > the >controller.
> > >
> > > With this in mind, I have changed the way I call in to report position
> > > to an uncontrolled airport. I usually report 10 miles out. These
> > > aircraft are FAST and saying you are 10 miles out really
> means nothing,
> > > unless someone else is 10 miles out and needs to know you are in their
> > > neighborhood.
> > >
> > > I have now added how soon I can be expected in the pattern area: "Erie
> > > traffic, Experimental 232 Suzie Q; we are 10 miles northwest at 65
> > > hundred inbound; we'll be landing Erie in four minutes." When
> they hear
> > > "Experimental" they don't know if you are a Flybaby or a Lancair or
> > > what. And even if they know what kind of airplane you are,
> now they know
> > > when they can start looking for you in the pattern. And
> anything helps.
> > >
> > > IMHO
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > > You builders: file this and keep building. You'll be up here some day
> > > soon.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "James E. Clark" <jclark@conterra.com>
THanks for the facts on this Ed.
My earlier reply should be IGNORED as it is obviously of by about 10kts. But
the concept is in the same ballpark. RVs are HXB's when using this approach.
James
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ed Perry
> Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 1:07 PM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Flying Comment
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Perry" <eperry@san.rr.com>
>
> >From an ATC side.....There are a bazillion different experimentals out
> there. We like to know what kind so that we can quote traffic and get some
> idea of the aircraft performance. When filing if your aircraft does not
> have an approved designator or you are not sure, use HXA (speeds < 90kts),
> HXB (speeds 90-190kts), and HXC (speeds > 191kts) all the RV
> designators are
> approved....RV4, RV6,RV8, etc...
>
> Ed Perry
> eperry@san.rr.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Flying Comment
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com>
> >
> > Most operating limitations on experimental aircraft require that you
> notify
> > "ATC" that your aircraft is experimental. "RV240" is legal and fine for
> > unicom, but on your first call to ATC (Center, Approach, & Tower), no
> matter
> > what ATC says, if your operating limitations read like mine,
> legally, you
> > are supposed to say "experimental."
> >
> > For me it usually goes like this,
> >
> > "Minney Center, RV 240."
> >
> > They often respond "ARMY 240 go ahead"
> >
> > "Minneapolis, R,V, 240 is an experimental RV-4 with you at X.5 squawking
> > 1200 blah blah blah....."
> >
> > After that it is "RV240"
> >
> > ATC could care less if your airplane is experimental, but the FEDs do.
> >
> > HO HO HO
> > Doug Rozendaal
> >
> >
> > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Nolan" <jimnolan@insightbb.com>
> > >
> > > F.Y.I.
> > > I've always used the term ( experimental N444JN ) when
> addressing
> > ATC. After I got my instrument ticket, I used the same term a couple of
> > times. ATC has never addressed me as experimental. I never use that term
> > anymore. They let me know I was an RV4, not an experimental.
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Albany Or. 699WP 1st flight |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Charles Rowbotham" <crowbotham@hotmail.com>
Jerry,
CONGRATULATIONS and WELL DONE !!!
Chuck & Dave Rowbotham
RV-8A
>From: WPAerial@aol.com
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV-List: Albany Or. 699WP 1st flight
>Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 23:54:06 EST
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: WPAerial@aol.com
>
>Merry Christmas to me!
>
>699WP RV6A had its first flight today :-)
>
>Boy it was GOOD!
>
>
>6 years 8 months
>2014 hours
>1056 lb. empty weight
>0-320 160 HP from power sports in BC
>fixed pitch prop
>under $40,000
>
>Jerry Wilken
>Albany Oregon
>
>Happy New Year
>
>do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Albany Or. 699WP 1st flight |
--> RV-List message posted by: mstewart@qa.butler.com
Yes Merry x-mas to you to.
Your life will never be the same.
I had my 1st flight one year ago yesterday. I can tell you my life was
changed forever after that momentous occasion.
Good work, and keep up with all the squawks.
Mike Stewart
694 hours year one.
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Rowbotham [mailto:crowbotham@hotmail.com]
Subject: Re: RV-List: Albany Or. 699WP 1st flight
--> RV-List message posted by: "Charles Rowbotham" <crowbotham@hotmail.com>
Jerry,
CONGRATULATIONS and WELL DONE !!!
Chuck & Dave Rowbotham
RV-8A
>From: WPAerial@aol.com
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV-List: Albany Or. 699WP 1st flight
>Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 23:54:06 EST
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: WPAerial@aol.com
>
>Merry Christmas to me!
>
>699WP RV6A had its first flight today :-)
>
>Boy it was GOOD!
>
>
>6 years 8 months
>2014 hours
>1056 lb. empty weight
>0-320 160 HP from power sports in BC
>fixed pitch prop
>under $40,000
>
>Jerry Wilken
>Albany Oregon
>
>Happy New Year
>
>do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Flying comment |
--> RV-List message posted by: Doug Gray <dgra1233@bigpond.net.au>
http://www.airservices.gov.au/pilotcentre/SpecialpilotOps/acft.pdf
If I've got this link correct it is the Australian publication of the
ICAO aircraft designators. RV's amongst many other homebuilts have
their own designations. I would have expected ATC to accept these
designators anywhere in the world.
Doug Gray
> I have also been asked (quite nicely I might add) "just what is an RV?" The
> controller did not know
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| Subject: | Albany Or. 699WP 1st flight |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Francis Malczynski" <ebbfmm@yahoo.com>
We wish you a Merry Christmas, we wish you a Merry Christmas, we wish you a
Merry Christmas and an RV new year. Congratulations.
Fran Malczynski
RV6 - N594EF (still test flying, lousy weather)
Olcott, NY
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of WPAerial@aol.com
Subject: RV-List: Albany Or. 699WP 1st flight
--> RV-List message posted by: WPAerial@aol.com
Merry Christmas to me!
699WP RV6A had its first flight today :-)
Boy it was GOOD!
6 years 8 months
2014 hours
1056 lb. empty weight
0-320 160 HP from power sports in BC
fixed pitch prop
under $40,000
Jerry Wilken
Albany Oregon
Happy New Year
do not archive
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--> RV-List message posted by: mstewart@qa.butler.com
James is correct. I did go to my local tower yesterday and investigate
myself, a class D handling biz jets and lots of Atlanta region jet traffic.
I went to 'thuh book' controllers use and flipped through the pages on
aircraft types. There is no RV listed. Only experimental 'hx' classes. There
is a difference between a type that FSS uses when handling your flightplan,
and a 'type' that the tower knows or can look up, which they never would.
If a controller did not know what an rv was when you called, and they did
not want to ask you, they have absolutely nothing in 'thuh book' to tell
them anything. Hence why we ALL hear from time to time, 'rv? Whats that?'
There were 4 controllers working. They all knew what an RV was of course,
cause myself and 14 other RV's fly out of there and they handle us with
priority since we like to 'play' with the tower with our formation passes,
low intitials with breaks that just happen to buzz the tower (they really
like those!). They get bored with all the normal traffic.
Anyways, they said they don't care what you call in as really, until you
sequence into the pattern. If an experimental calls in and they want to know
what you are, they will ask for aircraft type. Each said that they could
easily see the problem of calling RV686ms, and the controller thinking it
was part of your tail number.
Definitely use 'rv N686ms' on the call if you wanted em to know you're an
rv. They could care less about the experimental portion and none were aware
of the requirement in op lims for us either.
FSDO and FAA cares though. As I stated in an earlier post, Ill bet every op
lim states your requirement to use 'experimental' in your call to atc. Now
I'm sure there is a reason, from the good ole days, that I am not familiar
with. And I wonder what violation would occur of it was not used and they
wanted to stick you for some reason. At any rate, we need not give FAA any
opportunity to nit pick on a violation if we can easily help it.
I can see a mid-air in a positive controlled tower pattern, and in the
accident report, as a contributing factor, states pilot did not use
experimental in his call sign and so other traffic did not know to take heed
of the experimental nature of this aircraft.
Then after your in the ground, smiling down on your family, they are all
sitting around wondering why you didn't follows the rules and wonder why?
Did it contribute to the accident in some way? And so forth. Can't you hear
your family sitting around discussing this? Boy I can.
I use 'experimental rv N686ms' on initial call up, then '6ms' on every call
after that.
Mike Stewart
Hoping Santa has some RV stuff in his sleigh for me.
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: James E. Clark [mailto:jclark@conterra.com]
Subject: RE: RV-List: Flying comment
--> RV-List message posted by: "James E. Clark" <jclark@conterra.com>
I too seemed to have read something similar some time ago (a year or two?).
I think it is also the case that experimentals are now categorized as:
HXA "Hotel X-ray Alpha" (Homebuilt, eXperimental, type Alpha ... cruise
<100kts)
HXB (Homebuilt, eXperimental, type Bravo ...
cruise = 100kts - 200kts)
HXC (Homebuilt, eXperimental, type Charlie
... cruise = >200kts)
Seems I read this about a year ago and heard something of this nature from a
controller today. When I mentioned such over the air to a different
controller a few weeks ago, it did not seem to register.
I ***MAY*** have read it in either AOPA Pilot or SPort Aviation, so if
anyone is interested in doing a "search", I would start there. Of course
someone will probably point out that I am all wrong on all of this so please
take all of this with a grain of salt.
I have also been asked (quite nicely I might add) "just what is an RV?" The
controller did not know, which is OK and was interested in knowing, which
was even MORE SO OK.
James
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of ktlkrn@cox.net
> Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2002 9:10 PM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Flying comment
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: <ktlkrn@cox.net>
>
> The owner of the RV that is being built in my hangar is an ATC. I'll ask
> him. I have also heard Lancairs and Glasairs communicate without the
> "experimental" tag. Should apply to RV's for sure then.
>
> Darwin N. Barrie
> Chandler AZ
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Besing" <azpilot@extremezone.com>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Flying comment
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Besing" <azpilot@extremezone.com>
> >
> > I don't recall who it was that said this, and it may not be
> true, but here
> > goes.
> >
> > I heard that due to the large number of RV's flying, there was a
> > communication from the FAA to all controllers what an RV was, and that
> RV's
> > could report as "Anywhere tower, RV2388X" instead of reporting
> "Experimental
> > 2388X" or "Experimental RV 2388X". This communication was to let
> > controllers know who weren't familiar with an RV that they are
> commonplace
> > enough to eliminate the "Experimental" from the call sign, so not be
> > confused with a much slower experimental.
> >
> > Even if it is not true, I think that this is happening more and more
> > everyday. Gotta love them RV's.
> >
> >
> > Paul Besing
> > RV-6A Sold (Waiting on the RV-10)
> > http://www.lacodeworks.com/besing
> > Kitlog Pro Builder's Log Software
> > http://www.kitlog.com
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "KostaLewis" <mikel@dimensional.com>
> > To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: RV-List: Flying comment
> >
> >
> > > --> RV-List message posted by: "KostaLewis" <mikel@dimensional.com>
> > >
> > > >I was approx 20 miles inbound for landing when I heard another plane
> > > >(Cessna) call for landing close to my psoition. The tower called out
> > > >traffic which I then located. The Cessna could not find me and told
> > > the >controller.
> > >
> > > With this in mind, I have changed the way I call in to report position
> > > to an uncontrolled airport. I usually report 10 miles out. These
> > > aircraft are FAST and saying you are 10 miles out really
> means nothing,
> > > unless someone else is 10 miles out and needs to know you are in their
> > > neighborhood.
> > >
> > > I have now added how soon I can be expected in the pattern area: "Erie
> > > traffic, Experimental 232 Suzie Q; we are 10 miles northwest at 65
> > > hundred inbound; we'll be landing Erie in four minutes." When
> they hear
> > > "Experimental" they don't know if you are a Flybaby or a Lancair or
> > > what. And even if they know what kind of airplane you are,
> now they know
> > > when they can start looking for you in the pattern. And
> anything helps.
> > >
> > > IMHO
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > > You builders: file this and keep building. You'll be up here some day
> > > soon.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Albany Or. 699WP 1st flight |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Konrad Werner" <Connywerner@wans.net>
WELL, MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU !!!
Enjoy the RV & the Holidays, and keep smiling.
Konrad
> --> RV-List message posted by: WPAerial@aol.com
>
> Merry Christmas to me!
>
> 699WP RV6A had its first flight today :-)
>
> Boy it was GOOD!
>
>
> 6 years 8 months
> 2014 hours
> 1056 lb. empty weight
> 0-320 160 HP from power sports in BC
> fixed pitch prop
> under $40,000
>
> Jerry Wilken
> Albany Oregon
>
> Happy New Year
>
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | The Night Before Christmas. A pilots verse |
--> RV-List message posted by: mstewart@qa.butler.com
I shamelessly swipped this from the experimental avionics group.
Enjoy.
Posted by Like Joseph J Civ WRALC/MADEE
The Night Before Christmas
'Twas the night before Christmas, and out on the ramp,
Not an airplane was stirring, not even a Champ.
The aircraft were fastened to tiedowns with care,
In hopes that come morning, they all would be there.
The fuel trucks were nestled, all snug in their spots,
With gusts from two-forty at 39 knots.
I slumped at the fuel desk, now finally caught up,
And settled down comfortably, resting my butt.
When the radio lit up with noise and with chatter,
I turned up the scanner to see what was the matter.
A voice clearly heard over static and snow,
Called for clearance to land at the airport below.
He barked his transmission so lively and quick,
I'd have sworn that the call sign he used was "St. Nick".
I ran to the panel to turn up the lights,
The better to welcome this magical flight.
He called his position, no room for denial,
"St. Nicholas One, turnin' left onto final."
And what to my wondering eyes should appear,
But a Rutan-built sleigh, with eight Rotax Reindeer!
With vectors to final, down the glideslope he came,
As he passed all fixes, he called them by name:
"Now Ringo! Now Tolga! Now Trini and Bacun!
On Comet! On Cupid!" What pills was he takin'?
While controllers were sittin', and scratchin' their head,
They phoned to my office, and I heard it with dread,
The message they left was both urgent and dour:
"When Santa pulls in, have him please call the tower."
He landed like silk, with the sled runners sparking,
Then I heard "Left at Charlie," and "Taxi to parking."
He slowed to a taxi, turned off of three-oh
And stopped on the ramp with a "Ho, ho-ho-ho..."
He stepped out of the sleigh, but before he could talk,
I ran out to meet him with my best set of chocks.
His red helmet and goggles were covered with frost
And his beard was all blackened from Reindeer exhaust.
His breath smelled like peppermint, gone slightly stale,
And he puffed on a pipe, but he didn't inhale.
His cheeks were all rosy and jiggled like jelly,
His boots were as black as a cropduster's belly.
He was chubby and plump, in his suit of bright red,
And he asked me to "fill it, with hundred low-lead."
He came dashing in from the snow-covered pump,
I knew he was anxious for drainin' the sump.
I spoke not a word, but went straight to my work,
And I filled up the sleigh, but I spilled like a jerk.
He came out of the restroom, and sighed in relief,
Then he picked up a phone for a Flight Service brief.
And I thought as he silently scribed in his log,
These reindeer could land in an eighth-mile fog.
He completed his pre-flight, from the front to the rear,
Then he put on his headset, and I heard him yell, "Clear!"
And laying a finger on his push-to-talk,
He called up the tower for clearance and squawk.
"Take taxiway Charlie, the southbound direction,
Turn right three-two-zero at pilot's discretion"
He sped down the runway, the best of the best,
"Your traffic's a Grumman, inbound from the west."
Then I heard him proclaim, as he climbed thru the night,
"Merry Christmas to all! I have traffic in sight."
Merry Christmas! Happy New Year.
Mike Stewart
I say yes, archive it. It's a keeper.
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<tt><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>I shamelessly swipped this from the experimental avionics group.</tt>
<tt><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>Enjoy. </tt>
<tt><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>Posted by </tt>Like Joseph J Civ WRALC/MADEE
<tt><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'></tt>
<tt><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>The Night Before Christmas </tt><font size=2
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>
<tt>'Twas the night before Christmas, and out on the
ramp,</tt>
<tt>Not an airplane was stirring, not even a Champ.</tt>
<tt>The aircraft were fastened to tiedowns with care,</tt>
<tt>In hopes that come morning, they all would be
there.</tt>
<tt>The fuel trucks were nestled, all snug in their
spots,</tt>
<tt>With gusts from two-forty at 39 knots. </tt>
<tt>I slumped at the fuel desk, now finally caught up,</tt>
<tt>And settled down comfortably, resting my butt.</tt>
<tt>When the radio lit up with noise and with chatter,</tt>
<tt>I turned up the scanner to see what was the matter.</tt>
<tt>A voice clearly heard over static and snow,</tt>
<tt>Called for clearance to land at the airport below.
</tt>
<tt>He barked his transmission so lively and quick,</tt>
<tt>I'd have sworn that the call sign he used was
St. Nick.</tt>
<tt>I ran to the panel to turn up the lights,</tt>
<tt>The better to welcome this magical flight.</tt>
<tt>He called his position, no room for denial,</tt>
<tt>St. Nicholas One, turnin' left onto
final. </tt>
<tt>And what to my wondering eyes should appear,</tt>
<tt>But a Rutan-built sleigh, with eight Rotax
Reindeer!</tt>
<tt>With vectors to final, down the glideslope he
came,</tt>
<tt>As he passed all fixes, he called them by name:</tt>
<tt>Now Ringo! Now Tolga! Now Trini and Bacun!</tt>
<tt>On Comet! On Cupid! What pills was he takin'?
</tt>
<tt>While controllers were sittin', and scratchin'
their head,</tt>
<tt>They phoned to my office, and I heard it with
dread,</tt>
<tt>The message they left was both urgent and dour:</tt>
<tt>When Santa pulls in, have him please call
the tower.</tt>
<tt>He landed like silk, with the sled runners
sparking,</tt>
<tt>Then I heard Left at Charlie, and
Taxi to parking. </tt>
<tt>He slowed to a taxi, turned off of three-oh</tt>
<tt>And stopped on the ramp with a Ho,
ho-ho-ho...</tt>
<tt>He stepped out of the sleigh, but before he could
talk,</tt>
<tt>I ran out to meet him with my best set of chocks.</tt>
<tt>His red helmet and goggles were covered with frost</tt>
<tt>And his beard was all blackened from Reindeer
exhaust. </tt>
<tt>His breath smelled like peppermint, gone slightly
stale,</tt>
<tt>And he puffed on a pipe, but he didn't inhale.</tt>
<tt>His cheeks were all rosy and jiggled like jelly,</tt>
<tt>His boots were as black as a cropduster's belly.</tt>
<tt>He was chubby and plump, in his suit of bright
red,</tt>
<tt>And he asked me to fill it, with hundred low-lead.
</tt>
<tt>He came dashing in from the snow-covered pump,</tt>
<tt>I knew he was anxious for drainin' the sump.</tt>
<tt>I spoke not a word, but went straight to my work,</tt>
<tt>And I filled up the sleigh, but I spilled like a
jerk.</tt>
<tt>He came out of the restroom, and sighed in relief,</tt>
<tt>Then he picked up a phone for a Flight Service
brief. </tt>
<tt>And I thought as he silently scribed in his log,</tt>
<tt>These reindeer could land in an eighth-mile fog.</tt>
<tt>He completed his pre-flight, from the front to the
rear,</tt>
<tt>Then he put on his headset, and I heard him yell,
Clear!</tt>
<tt>And laying a finger on his push-to-talk,</tt>
<tt>He called up the tower for clearance and squawk. </tt>
<tt>Take taxiway Charlie, the southbound
direction,</tt>
<tt>Turn right three-two-zero at pilot's
discretion</tt>
<tt>He sped down the runway, the best of the best,</tt>
<tt>Your traffic's a Grumman, inbound from the
west.</tt>
<tt>Then I heard him proclaim, as he climbed thru the
night, </tt>
<tt>Merry Christmas to all! I have traffic in
sight. </tt>
<tt>Merry Christmas! Happy New Year.</tt>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>
<span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Mike Stewart
<span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I say yes, archive it. It's a keeper.
<span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Bert Forero" <bert6@mybluelight.com>
Randall:
Talk to Beckie ordorf; she can help you; They
did a very nice job, on my seats....
Bert
ev6a
Do Not Archive
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--> RV-List message posted by: kempthornes <kempthornes@earthlink.net>
At 09:00 AM 12/24/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: mstewart@qa.butler.com
>
>I use 'experimental rv N686ms' on initial call up,
I like it! Think I'll try to remember to stick in the 'rv' when I call.
> then '6ms' on every call after that.
I guess you must mean, after ATC calls you by abbreviated sign *first*.?
K. H. (Hal) Kempthorne
RV6-a N7HK flying!
PRB (El Paso de Robles, CA)
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--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
mstewart@qa.butler.com wrote:
>
> I use 'experimental rv N686ms' on initial call up, then '6ms' on every call
> after that.
>
> Mike Stewart
> Hoping Santa has some RV stuff in his sleigh for me.
> Do not archive
>
Good write up Mike with good information but, here comes the but. :-)
IT IS only nesacery to say "experimental 960GS (my number) As Doug said in
a earlier post if you say RV sooner or later it well be confused with Army.
If people try to give to much information it really clogs up communications
on a busy day.
do not archive
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"Rocket List" <rocket-list@matronics.com>
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tom Gummo" <t.gummo@verizon.net>
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Everybody,
Have a Great Holiday Season.
For those who are flying - FLY SAFE and enjoy the world open to you.
For those who are still building - Keep pounding away, IT IS WORTH IT.
For those flying through the "High Desert" of Southern California, stop by
Apple Valley Airport and say hello (APV).
Tom Gummo
Apple Valley, CA
Harmon Rocket Flying
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| Subject: | Re: Albany Or. 699WP 1st flight |
--> RV-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
Jerry:
Congrats !!! What a great Xmas present !!!
Len Leggette, RV-8A
N910LL
Greensboro, NC
36 hours
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| Subject: | Re: Placement of flux detector |
--> RV-List message posted by: Don R Jordan <dons6a@juno.com>
Ralph:
I built a three sided box from .032 & have it high & off the forword
side of the F607.
Works OK. If you want to drive to GKY I have pictures .
817-473-DONS, home is 817-572-1918
Don Jordan - RV6A - N6DJ
Arlington, Tx
On Mon, 23 Dec 2002 19:46:17 -0600 "Ralph E. Capen"
<recapen@earthlink.net> writes:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen"
> <recapen@earthlink.net>
>
> Folks,
>
> I'm trying to figure out the best place to install my flux detector
> for my
> NSD-1000 in my RV6A slider...
>
> So far, the turtledeck area up high and aft seems to be the best
> place as it
> is the closest that I can come to 18" away from the nearest steel.
>
> I'm looking for anyone that has put one of these into their planes
> to
> help...
>
> Thanks,
> Ralph Capen
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--> RV-List message posted by: "KostaLewis" <mikel@dimensional.com>
>IT IS only nesacery to say "experimental 960GS (my number) As Doug said
in
>a earlier post if you say RV sooner or later it well be confused with
Army.
>If people try to give to much information it really clogs up
communications
>on a busy day.
Agreed. If they want to know what you are, they will ask you to "say
type". They can see you are hustling along on radar. I announce
"Experimental 232 Suzie Q (or Sierra Quebec in an unfamiliar place) and
those used to me will answer "Suzie Q, Popup approach, squawk
1315....."."RV" invariably gets "Army aircraft, say again" for an
answer. We all frequently hear rambling transmissions with WAY too much
information (or way too little); meanwhile we are waiting for a pause to
jump in, zipping along at 170kts, quickly approaching the airport.
There have been several recent articles on perfecting our radio
technique and the recurrent theme is to formulate what you want to say
before you squeeze the PTT, and say it in a SHORT, easy to understand
and interpret format. If we get used to saying similar phrases at
certain times in our flights, it is easier to make it a routine we
easily remember. We have several near-by airports on the same frequency
and there are some apparently frustrated late-night jazz DJ's out there
that tend to ramble.
Michael
Happy Holidays
Do not archive
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Rob W M Shipley" <Rob@RobsGlass.com>
I notice that almost all of the post on this topic uses knots. I'm also aware
that many experimentals, (& a few spam cans), use mph.
Are most RV builders using knots and is this reflected in their choice of ASI?
If this isn't too late I wish everyone on the list a wonderful Christmas and New
Year and thank you all for your informative/interesting/outrageous/amusing (delete
whichever does not apply) postings.
Fly safe.
Rob
Rob W M Shipley
RV9A N919RV Fuselage still.
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| Subject: | Re: Flying comment |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Camille Hawthorne" <cammie@sunvalley.net>
Controllers at my airport (class C) definitely know what an RV is. In fact,
when the tower supervisor found out I was building a -7, he asked if I
wanted a partner!
What a great reputation. (the acft, not me :)
Cammie Hawthorne
Fuel tanks
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| Subject: | New Duckworks Lights |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright" <kyle.boatright@adelphia.net>
If you check Van's site, you'll see that they are carrying a new light kit from
Duckworks. It uses the new HID technology and promises more light on less power.
Also, Duckworks has a retrofit kit for aircraft with the halogen light kit. I've
never been particularly impressed by the light output of my 55w halogen light,
and am probably going to order the upgrade kit. By the way, on Duckworks
site: www.duckworksaviation.com, they indicate that you should contact them directly
(Not Van's) if you want to retrofit your airplane.
Does anyone out there in RV land have one of the new lights? Is there a noticable
difference in runway visibility?
Thanks,
KB
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| Subject: | Re: Knots or mph? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Rv8don@aol.com
Rocb,
Your choice on teh airspeed markings. Yes it seems that many experimentals
use MPH. Maybe they like the higher numbers! Keep in mind that the
"system" is geared around knots and when ATC asks you for your speed, or you
file a flight plan with FSS, they're expecting the number to be in knots.
-Don
RV8 NJ
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| Subject: | Re: Knots or mph? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Besing" <azpilot@extremezone.com>
Just get the dual one from Van's, that has the MPH and Knots gauge. You
just have to determine which scale you want on the outside ring. For me,
since I use groundspeed from the GPS for all the time and distance
functions, knots or MPH didn't really matter. As long as your arcs are
labled correctly, then the scale becomes moot. Now, if you don't use a GPS
for groundspeed, and you calculate based off of indicated, then I would go
with Knots, for simple calculations from sectional charts.
Paul Besing
RV-6A Sold (Waiting on the RV-10)
http://www.lacodeworks.com/besing
Kitlog Pro Builder's Log Software
http://www.kitlog.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob W M Shipley" <Rob@RobsGlass.com>
Subject: RV-List: Knots or mph?
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Rob W M Shipley" <Rob@RobsGlass.com>
>
> I notice that almost all of the post on this topic uses knots. I'm also
aware that many experimentals, (& a few spam cans), use mph.
> Are most RV builders using knots and is this reflected in their choice of
ASI?
> If this isn't too late I wish everyone on the list a wonderful Christmas
and New Year and thank you all for your
informative/interesting/outrageous/amusing (delete whichever does not apply)
postings.
> Fly safe.
> Rob
> Rob W M Shipley
> RV9A N919RV Fuselage still.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Knots or mph? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tom Gummo" <t.gummo@verizon.net>
Rob,
ATC does KNOTs. Nav Aids (DME) use KNOTs. I like KNOTs
but then I was a military pilot and we did NOTHING in MPH.
I went so far so to have a KNOTs only display on my ASI and programed my GPS
to be KNOTs too.
So, if you give me a vote as to what to put in your plane, I vote KNOTs.
As my vote doesn't count, do as you like, have fun building and making all
those choices.
Have a Merry Holiday Season.
Tom Gummo
Apple Valley, CA (APV)
Harmon Rocket II - Flying
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob W M Shipley" <Rob@RobsGlass.com>
Subject: RV-List: Knots or mph?
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Rob W M Shipley" <Rob@RobsGlass.com>
>
> I notice that almost all of the post on this topic uses knots. I'm also
aware that many experimentals, (& a few spam cans), use mph.
> Are most RV builders using knots and is this reflected in their choice of
ASI?
> If this isn't too late I wish everyone on the list a wonderful Christmas
and New Year and thank you all for your
informative/interesting/outrageous/amusing (delete whichever does not apply)
postings.
> Fly safe.
> Rob
> Rob W M Shipley
> RV9A N919RV Fuselage still.
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: barry pote <barrypote@comcast.net>
Becareful, gents. I think the wording says they can't we used with wig
wag. But I didn't look closely.
Barry Pote RV9a canopy
Kyle Boatright wrote:
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright" <kyle.boatright@adelphia.net>
>
> If you check Van's site, you'll see that they are carrying a new light kit from
Duckworks. It uses the new HID technology and promises more light on less
power.
>
> Also, Duckworks has a retrofit kit for aircraft with the halogen light kit.
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| Subject: | Re: Knots or mph? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Tedd McHenry <tedd@vansairforce.org>
I find the dual-scale ASI's very hard to read. I recommend you pick one scale
and just use that. Since charts, ATC, and the rule book are in knots, I also
recommend that you use knots.
Tedd McHenry
Surry, BC
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Gordon or Marge Comfort" <gcomfo@tc3net.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Gummo" <t.gummo@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Knots or mph?
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Tom Gummo" <t.gummo@verizon.net>
>
> Rob,
> ATC does KNOTs. Nav Aids (DME) use KNOTs. I like KNOTs
> but then I was a military pilot and we did NOTHING in MPH.
> I went so far so to have a KNOTs only display on my ASI and programed my
GPS
> to be KNOTs too.
> So, if you give me a vote as to what to put in your plane, I vote KNOTs.
> As my vote doesn't count, do as you like, have fun building and making all
> those choices.
> Have a Merry Holiday Season.
> Tom Gummo
> Apple Valley, CA (APV)
> Harmon Rocket II - Flying
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rob W M Shipley" <Rob@RobsGlass.com>
Rob, Tom et al:
There's another neat thing about knots. For rough estimation, 100fpm
vertical is very close to 1 knot. Thus 500fpm down is essentially 5 knots
down. From this comes a glide (or descent) ratio. Some of us glider guys
used to have our variometers calibrated in knots.
Gordon Comfort
N363GC
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| Subject: | Re: Knots or mph? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
Rob:
I am using knots for a couple of reasons:
1. I like the uncluttered look of the Vans airspeed indicator with knots
only
2. When I call ATC they are looking at my position in nautical miles. If I
program my gps to statute then my reported distance never agrees with theirs.
Len Leggette, RV-8A
N910LL
Greensboro, NC
36 hours
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| Subject: | New Duckworks Lights |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Carl Froehlich" <carlfro@erols.com>
As a side note, I replaced the 55 watt bulbs with 100 watt bulbs (from the
Wal-Mart aircraft supply store) - about $2 each. These made a noticeable
difference. Keep in mind I planed on this when I wired the lights, using a
heavier wire run.
Carl Froehlich
RV-8A (flying)
Vienna, VA
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Kyle Boatright
Subject: RV-List: New Duckworks Lights
--> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright"
<kyle.boatright@adelphia.net>
If you check Van's site, you'll see that they are carrying a new light kit
from Duckworks. It uses the new HID technology and promises more light on
less power.
Also, Duckworks has a retrofit kit for aircraft with the halogen light kit.
I've never been particularly impressed by the light output of my 55w halogen
light, and am probably going to order the upgrade kit. By the way, on
Duckworks site: www.duckworksaviation.com, they indicate that you should
contact them directly (Not Van's) if you want to retrofit your airplane.
Does anyone out there in RV land have one of the new lights? Is there a
noticable difference in runway visibility?
Thanks,
KB
Message 29
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| Subject: | Re: New Duckworks Lights |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
Call me crazy, but $390 *per side* for HID over halogen seems outrageous for
what you get. 100-watt halogen upgrades for $6 a side is the way to go if
you ask me...if somebody wants to try to convince me that it's worth $384
extra dollars for HID, I'm all ears!
Happy holidays,
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (fuselage)
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "barry pote" <barrypote@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: New Duckworks Lights
> --> RV-List message posted by: barry pote <barrypote@comcast.net>
>
> Becareful, gents. I think the wording says they can't we used with wig
> wag. But I didn't look closely.
> Barry Pote RV9a canopy
>
> Kyle Boatright wrote:
> >
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright"
<kyle.boatright@adelphia.net>
> >
> > If you check Van's site, you'll see that they are carrying a new light
kit from Duckworks. It uses the new HID technology and promises more light
on less power.
> >
> > Also, Duckworks has a retrofit kit for aircraft with the halogen light
kit.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: New Duckworks Lights |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright" <kyle.boatright@adelphia.net>
Dan,
You're right, $390/side is very pricy. However, when you're in the landing
flare and it is REAL dark out front, $390 don't look like a bad deal at all!
;-)
On my recent trip to West Virginia (3 hours there, 3.75 back, with a 1 hour
side trip), we only got something like 2-2.5 hours on the ground up there
because we had to get back before dark. I refuse to make a night landing
with a passenger because my current landing light is marginal (IMO)...
As another lister pointed out, the HID lights are not intended for use with
the wig wag flasher.
KB
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: New Duckworks Lights
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
>
> Call me crazy, but $390 *per side* for HID over halogen seems outrageous
for
> what you get. 100-watt halogen upgrades for $6 a side is the way to go if
> you ask me...if somebody wants to try to convince me that it's worth $384
> extra dollars for HID, I'm all ears!
>
> Happy holidays,
> )_( Dan
> RV-7 N714D (fuselage)
> http://www.rvproject.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "barry pote" <barrypote@comcast.net>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: RV-List: New Duckworks Lights
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: barry pote <barrypote@comcast.net>
> >
> > Becareful, gents. I think the wording says they can't we used with wig
> > wag. But I didn't look closely.
> > Barry Pote RV9a canopy
> >
> > Kyle Boatright wrote:
> > >
> > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright"
> <kyle.boatright@adelphia.net>
> > >
> > > If you check Van's site, you'll see that they are carrying a new light
> kit from Duckworks. It uses the new HID technology and promises more
light
> on less power.
> > >
> > > Also, Duckworks has a retrofit kit for aircraft with the halogen light
> kit.
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | need help engine failure-forced landing in St. Louis |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Lewis"<timrv6a@earthlink.net>
I'm Tim Lewis's mother. He requested I send this e-mail because his engine
failed and he was forced to make an emergency landing in a corn field
southeast of the Scott Air Force/Mid America Airport in the St. Louis area.
He is requesting help from any RVers in the St. Louis area that could help
arrange for moving the airplane (flatbed or other means) and/or locating a
hanger at Scott/Mid America (BLV) or Shafer Airport (3K6)where he could work
on the plane. Use of the hanger would be short term; just until he can find
the cause of the engine failure and fix it.
Tim can be contacted at the Scott Inn at Scott Air Force Base - phone #
618-744-1200 and ask for Tim Lewis. ****Do NOT REPLY to this message. Tim
does not have e-mail access.****
You may e-mail me at ard863s@smsu.edu. I will check my e-mail before 8 am
Wednesday, then after late Wednesday evening when I return home with Tim's
wife and son. Carol Lewis
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| Subject: | Re: New Duckworks Lights |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Norman" <nhunger@sprint.ca>
I vote against these new lights.
1 They cost $900 USD for two, WOW! That's big bucks.
2 NO WIG WAGS allowed. Too bad, they are a truely great safety feature and
I already bought Bob Haan's solid state flasher.
3 2 lbs extra weight
I'm not going to claim to know anything about flying RVs at night but I will
claim to know a fair amount about lighting. Changing the 55 watt bulbs out
for 100 watt bulbs will make a huge difference, cost under $20, and weigh no
more than the standard Duckworks landing light. Totally the way to go. Do
the math on the wire size and upgrade if you can. I planned for these bulbs
when building my wings and I wasn't even on the RV List back then. It just
seemed obvious. I must recommend new builders to wire their wings with 14
gusge wire to the light positions. Better yet, an item from my "if I were
doing it again file" is to line the wing with a lightweight 1/2" plastic PVC
pipe and run all the wires at final assembly. No connectors at the wing
root, just a small service loop.
Norman Hunger
RV6A Delta BC
> If you check Van's site, you'll see that they are carrying a new light kit
from Duckworks. It uses the new HID technology and promises more light on
less power.
>
> Also, Duckworks has a retrofit kit for aircraft with the halogen light
kit. I've never been particularly impressed by the light output of my 55w
halogen light, and am probably going to order the upgrade kit. By the way,
on Duckworks site: www.duckworksaviation.com, they indicate that you should
contact them directly (Not Van's) if you want to retrofit your airplane.
>
> Does anyone out there in RV land have one of the new lights? Is there a
noticable difference in runway visibility?
>
> Thanks,
>
> KB
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Knots or mph? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Norman" <nhunger@sprint.ca>
> Are most RV builders using knots and is this reflected in their choice of
ASI?
I am. With all communicated speeds to ATC in knots and maps in knots I can't
imagine why any one would want to not conform. I have though noticed that it
is common for kit aircraft manufactors to quote their performance figures in
MPH. The only reasons to do this would be to be able to quote a higher
number or that they must figure their market is dominantly non flyng.
Norman Hunger
RV6A Delta BC
Do not archive
Poor Tim, wish I could help but I'm too far away.
Merry Christmas to all!
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| Subject: | Tire Replancement Suggestions |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Cimino" <jcimino@echoes.net>
The Aero Trainers bit the dust today after 80 hrs of flight...the valve stem must
have stuck open after I filled them today and one was flat when I landed.
It holds air, but has a cut in the sidewall. I am looking for new tires...any
suggestions. I have not been impressed with the Aero Tainers. My brother-in-law
works for GoodYear. Of coarse I should see who close by has which tires
in stock, but I can't do that until Thursday. I am off until next Wednesday and
hope to do some more flying. Any suggestions would be great.
Jim
James Cimino
RV-8 SN 80039
80+ Hours
570-842-4057
http://www.geocities.com/jcimino.geo/
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--> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Bertsch <noms1reqd@yahoo.com>
Some time back I wrote to tell you guys that I was having problems with the Slick
LASAR ignition system on our RV-4. You suggested that I talk with Harry Fenton
at Unison which I did... and we finally got the problem solved.
In short, the system kept failing over to "backup" mode, which means it runs on
points only at 25 base timing -- which is no problem, since that is the way most
planes run all the time, however, since there is no impulse coupler or retard
breaker it was very difficult to start.
Unison provided excellent support, but they could not figure out what the problem
was. They sent a new mag (no charge) and a new controller (no charge) and
sent it all very quick by Fed Ex. Still we could not figure it out. Finally,
Harry came all the way to Houston from Illinois to see if he could diagnose it
himself. Although, he cleaned up some of our wiring runs, he could not determine
the problem. So the next week they sent us all new everything - mags, wires
and controller - all at no charge and sent overnight.
We installed the new system and it has been working great ever since. They are
diagnosing the problem, but apparently something failed in one of the mags (Hall
effect?) that was causing a circuit in the controller to fail and vice versa.
They interacted with each other so you had to replace both to get it right.
This was a new failure mode and they are making some additions to their maintenance
manuals as a result.
Needless to say we are very impressed with the service we received from Unison.
Harry, Adam and Joe responded to our every request and did so quickly. The problem
was very unusual, so it took a while to get it resolved, but not for lack
of them trying. We like the LASAR system and you just can't beat Unison's
service.
Jeff Bertsch
RV-4, Houston
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