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1. 07:06 AM - For Sale (MSices)
2. 07:12 AM - Re: Knots or mph? (Charles Rowbotham)
3. 07:30 AM - Jim Cimino Re: Aero Trainer tires (Dick DeCramer)
4. 08:07 AM - Re: Jim Cimino Re: Aero Trainer tires (Doug Weiler)
5. 08:13 AM - Re: Tire Replancement Suggestions (Kyle Boatright)
6. 08:21 AM - Re: Tire Replancement Suggestions (Tom & Cathy Ervin)
7. 08:49 AM - Re: Jim Cimino Re: Aero Trainer tires (Jerry Springer)
8. 09:03 AM - Re: Tire Replancement Suggestions (Jim Cimino)
9. 09:10 AM - Re: Knots or mph (Zack Spivey)
10. 09:19 AM - Re: RV-8 Panel (Tracy Crook)
11. 09:32 AM - Knots vs. MPH (T Bronson)
12. 09:53 AM - Tire Replacement Suggestions and Merry Xmas (Denis Walsh)
13. 09:55 AM - Re: Tire Replancement Suggestions (Tom & Cathy Ervin)
14. 09:59 AM - Re: Knots or mph? (Randy Compton)
15. 10:18 AM - Re: St Louis area R/V ers: need help engine failure (WALTER KERR)
16. 10:22 AM - Re: Knots or mph? (Tracy Crook)
17. 10:35 AM - Re: Jim Cimino Re: Aero Trainer tires (10 hour tires) (WALTER KERR)
18. 11:05 AM - Re: Knots or mph? (Kysh)
19. 11:40 AM - Knots or MPH; pattern speeds (KostaLewis)
20. 12:28 PM - Re: Re: Knots or mph (JRWillJR@aol.com)
21. 12:33 PM - Re: New Duckworks Lights (Gert)
22. 01:03 PM - RV flyin (Sam Buchanan)
23. 01:16 PM - Re: Jim Cimino Re: Aero Trainer tires (Cy Galley)
24. 01:21 PM - Wing Fuselage Assembly (JTAnon@aol.com)
25. 01:31 PM - Re: New Duckworks Lights (David Burton)
26. 01:33 PM - Re: RV flyin (David Burton)
27. 02:05 PM - Re: Kelly Johnson (Bob Hassel)
28. 02:48 PM - Knots or mph. (Rob W M Shipley)
29. 03:21 PM - Re: RV flyin (Tracy Crook)
30. 03:36 PM - Re: Wing Fuselage Assembly (Neil McLeod)
31. 04:06 PM - Re: need help engine failure-forced landing in St. Louis (Larry Bowen)
32. 04:12 PM - Re: Wing Fuselage Assembly (Lonnie Woodman)
33. 04:22 PM - Re: RV flyin (Sam Buchanan)
34. 04:33 PM - Re: Wing Fuselage Assembly (LarryRobertHelming)
35. 05:36 PM - Re: Wing Fuselage Assembly (WILLMINCEY@aol.com)
36. 05:36 PM - Re: Wing Fuselage Assembly (WILLMINCEY@aol.com)
37. 07:50 PM - So long for now (Paul Besing)
38. 08:07 PM - Re: Knots or mph? (Dave Bristol)
39. 08:24 PM - slotting the cowl for the nose gear (Gary)
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--> RV-List message posted by: "MSices" <msices@core.com>
Thought I would put this up here before I list it on Ebay. I have a KT 76C
Bendix/King Digital Transponder. This unit is Brand New! with new tray and
new connector kit included. Also have a copy of the install diagram. Paid
a pretty penny for it. Guaranteed to be in perfect working order when you
receive it. Will sell for $1100. Pictures available upon request.
Mike Sices
RV8, N339JA Res.
Gurnee, IL
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: Knots or mph? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Charles Rowbotham" <crowbotham@hotmail.com>
Rob,
We went with Knots - fit into the system smoothly.
We also passed on the dual scale indicator. We found the single scale more
readible, at a glance. We also have the Rocky Mountain Encoder and have True
A/S at the flick of a switch.
Good Building,
Chuck & Dave Rowbotham
Rv-8A (160 hrs)
>From: "Rob W M Shipley" <Rob@RobsGlass.com>
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: "RV-List Digest Server" <rv-list-digest@matronics.com>
>Subject: RV-List: Knots or mph?
>Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 14:39:59 -0800
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Rob W M Shipley" <Rob@RobsGlass.com>
>
>I notice that almost all of the post on this topic uses knots. I'm also
>aware that many experimentals, (& a few spam cans), use mph.
>Are most RV builders using knots and is this reflected in their choice of
>ASI?
>If this isn't too late I wish everyone on the list a wonderful Christmas
>and New Year and thank you all for your
>informative/interesting/outrageous/amusing (delete whichever does not
>apply) postings.
>Fly safe.
>Rob
>Rob W M Shipley
>RV9A N919RV Fuselage still.
>
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| Subject: | Re: Jim Cimino Re: Aero Trainer tires |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dick DeCramer" <diesel@rconnect.com>
Jim...
I had Aero Trainer tires on a Cessna and they did not last over 10 hrs meanwhile
I had fit wheel fairings to those tires. I then installed Michelin Aviator
tires which lasted at least 250 hrs but they had so much more rubber on than the
Aero Trainers that the wheel fairings would not fit over them. Now that I
am completing my RV-6 I am thinking of buying high end tires to fit my wheel fairings
( probably Michelin) and relegating the Van supplied Aero Trainers to
standby duty. I will highly recommend Michelin but you will have to expect this
wheel fairing fit problem.
Dick DeCramer
RV-6 0-320 Sennsenich
Northfield, MN
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| Subject: | Re: Jim Cimino Re: Aero Trainer tires |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Weiler" <dougweil@pressenter.com>
>
> I had Aero Trainer tires on a Cessna and they did not last over 10 hrs
meanwhile I had fit wheel fairings to those tires. I then installed
Michelin Aviator tires which lasted at least 250 hrs but they had so much
more rubber on than the Aero Trainers that the wheel fairings would not fit
over them. Now that I am completing my RV-6 I am thinking of buying high
end tires to fit my wheel fairings ( probably Michelin) and relegating the
Van supplied Aero Trainers to standby duty. I will highly recommend
Michelin but you will have to expect this wheel fairing fit problem.
>
> Dick DeCramer
> RV-6 0-320 Sennsenich
> Northfield, MN
>
I have Michelin Air tires on both my RV's. I really had no problem with
wheel pant clearance. The "Airs" are the rounded shape vs. the sculptured
sidewall. They are bullet-proof and seem to last forever (they certainly
did on my Cessna 180). NWA uses them exclusively on our 757s so they must
be tough as nails.
Doug Weiler
Hudson, WI
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| Subject: | Re: Tire Replancement Suggestions |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright" <kyle.boatright@adelphia.net>
Jim,
You'll find that the second set of Aero-Trainers will last much longer
because of improved takeoff and landing technique. Rotating them also
helps. That said, there are better tires on the market, but the question is
whether they will fit your wheelpants.
One thing that really tears tires up is to make pivot turns with one wheel
locked. My hangar is situated such that a pivot turn is positions the
airplane for an easy push back into the hangar. I stopped doing those when
I realized how fast they were wearing out my left tire...
KB
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Cimino" <jcimino@echoes.net>
Subject: RV-List: Tire Replancement Suggestions
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Cimino" <jcimino@echoes.net>
>
> The Aero Trainers bit the dust today after 80 hrs of flight...the valve
stem must have stuck open after I filled them today and one was flat when I
landed. It holds air, but has a cut in the sidewall. I am looking for new
tires...any suggestions. I have not been impressed with the Aero Tainers.
My brother-in-law works for GoodYear. Of coarse I should see who close by
has which tires in stock, but I can't do that until Thursday. I am off
until next Wednesday and hope to do some more flying. Any suggestions would
be great.
> Jim
>
> James Cimino
> RV-8 SN 80039
> 80+ Hours
> 570-842-4057
> http://www.geocities.com/jcimino.geo/
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Tire Replancement Suggestions |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tom & Cathy Ervin" <tcervin@valkyrie.net>
Jim, Although I am not flying yet I installed "Good-Year Tires" on my RV6-A
and fitted the wheel pants to match. The FBO where I fly out of uses nothing
but Goodyear even on the C-172 Trainer as landings per tire justify the
extra cost in his mind.
I work for Lockheed Martin and believe the large majority of
Military Aircraft use Goodyear also which is good enough for me.
Tom in Ohio
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Cimino" <jcimino@echoes.net>
Subject: RV-List: Tire Replancement Suggestions
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Cimino" <jcimino@echoes.net>
>
> The Aero Trainers bit the dust today after 80 hrs of flight...the valve
stem must have stuck open after I filled them today and one was flat when I
landed. It holds air, but has a cut in the sidewall. I am looking for new
tires...any suggestions. I have not been impressed with the Aero Tainers.
My brother-in-law works for GoodYear. Of coarse I should see who close by
has which tires in stock, but I can't do that until Thursday. I am off
until next Wednesday and hope to do some more flying. Any suggestions would
be great.
> Jim
>
> James Cimino
> RV-8 SN 80039
> 80+ Hours
> 570-842-4057
> http://www.geocities.com/jcimino.geo/
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Jim Cimino Re: Aero Trainer tires |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
Dick DeCramer wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dick DeCramer" <diesel@rconnect.com>
>
> Jim...
>
> I had Aero Trainer tires on a Cessna and they did not last over 10 hrs meanwhile
I had fit wheel fairings to those tires. I then installed Michelin Aviator
tires which lasted at least 250 hrs but they had so much more rubber on than
the Aero Trainers that the wheel fairings would not fit over them. Now that
I am completing my RV-6 I am thinking of buying high end tires to fit my wheel
fairings ( probably Michelin) and relegating the Van supplied Aero Trainers to
standby duty. I will highly recommend Michelin but you will have to expect
this wheel fairing fit problem.
>
> Dick DeCramer
> RV-6 0-320 Sennsenich
> Northfield, MN
>
Wow ten hours, were you landing with the brakes locked each time? :-) I would get
about 125-150 hours with Aero trainers on my RV-6. I got about 200 hours with
Michelins. I just this last month put on a new set of Desser recap tires. They
used a
Aero trainers 6 ply carcass but the caps look like a very high grade of rubber
and
also have about 1/32" more tread grove. They appear to be a very high quality tire.
I well know more how they wear after flying with them for a few hours. My RV-6
wears
the tires on the inside extremely fast. Hopefully the new drilled gear and mount
line
up better.
Marry Christmas,
Jerry
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| Subject: | Re: Tire Replancement Suggestions |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Cimino" <jcimino@echoes.net>
Which Goodyear tires are they using flight special/flight custom?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom & Cathy Ervin" <tcervin@valkyrie.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Tire Replancement Suggestions
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Tom & Cathy Ervin" <tcervin@valkyrie.net>
>
> Jim, Although I am not flying yet I installed "Good-Year Tires" on my
RV6-A
> and fitted the wheel pants to match. The FBO where I fly out of uses
nothing
> but Goodyear even on the C-172 Trainer as landings per tire justify the
> extra cost in his mind.
> I work for Lockheed Martin and believe the large majority of
> Military Aircraft use Goodyear also which is good enough for me.
>
> Tom in Ohio
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Cimino" <jcimino@echoes.net>
> To: "RV-LIST" <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV-List: Tire Replancement Suggestions
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Cimino" <jcimino@echoes.net>
> >
> > The Aero Trainers bit the dust today after 80 hrs of flight...the valve
> stem must have stuck open after I filled them today and one was flat when
I
> landed. It holds air, but has a cut in the sidewall. I am looking for
new
> tires...any suggestions. I have not been impressed with the Aero Tainers.
> My brother-in-law works for GoodYear. Of coarse I should see who close by
> has which tires in stock, but I can't do that until Thursday. I am off
> until next Wednesday and hope to do some more flying. Any suggestions
would
> be great.
> > Jim
> >
> > James Cimino
> > RV-8 SN 80039
> > 80+ Hours
> > 570-842-4057
> > http://www.geocities.com/jcimino.geo/
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Knots or mph |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Zack Spivey" <zspivey@earthlink.net>
I have been lurking and reading others posts in order to gain knowledge prior to
building. This is one area where I have a strong opinion. Knots are the only
way to go.
Thirty years ago when I first started flying, most general aviation aircraft (
at least the ones I flew) used mph. The military used knots. I spent time as
an Air Force navigator. The distance along a line of longitude from one minute
of latitude to the next is one nautical mile. This made it easier to plot
distances. You used a pair of dividers and measured along a line of longitude.
Today, the GPS has made an navigator extinct so those ideas are archaic. Still,
the ATC uses nautical miles and knots. Flight plans are filed in knots. Both
kit and certified aircraft manufacturers like to quote mph because the number
is higher (Would the Mooney 201, 231 or 251 sound as great if it were called
the Mooney 174.66, 200.73 or 218.11?)
Many certified aircraft use a dual scale airspeed indicator. When I fly, I need
the information quickly. I find it hard to get this from a dual scale indicator.
Since ATC uses nautical miles and knots and I want only one scale on my airspeed
indicator, it will be knots for me.
Zack Spivey
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Tracy Crook" <lors01@msn.com>
I made my RV-4 seat about 300% more comfortable on long flights by moving
top of seat back from front of roll bar to the back (had to drill a couple
of holes and add two AN-3 bolts) So, I was interested by the recent
discussion on ergonomics and the RV-8 stick.
Question for those who modified the -8 panel so it would clear the modified
stick: How much room on the bottom/center of the panel did you loose when
cutting that radius?
Tracy Crook
RV-4 1300 hrs
RV-8 Getting ready to cut panel.
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--> RV-List message posted by: "T Bronson" <bipetype@hotmail.com>
Hi Rob,
I do KNOT think you need my opinion since I have KNOT finished an RV and
therefore have KNOT had to make that decision, so I will KNOT add my
thoughts to this thread. Except, that is, to point out one idea that has
KNOT been brought up: no matter what type of mph you tie in your rope, it
will KNOT hold your airplane down.
Merry Christmas!
Tim/Pittsburgh/White Christmas here!
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| Subject: | Tire Replacement Suggestions and Merry Xmas |
--> RV-List message posted by: Denis Walsh <denis.walsh@attbi.com>
I am on tire set no. 5 now. Aero Trainers are ok and light weight. If I
were on grass I would prob stick with it.
Had about 80% better mileage (landings) with Condors, at about the same
price. Heavier and a little bigger, more tread. BEWARE, Desser says they
are made in the orient now, not in Europe. Different tire.
Best wear was with recaps from Desser on Goodyear core. About 100% longer
wearing than the Aero Trainer,.. Also seem less prone to shake and shimmy.
But you pay the price in weight and volume. I made only minor filing on my
pants.
That's some of your choices from my view.
Merry Xmas to all
Denis
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| Subject: | Re: Tire Replancement Suggestions |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tom & Cathy Ervin" <tcervin@valkyrie.net>
Jim, Flight Special is what I have but the FBO uses Aircraft Rib by
Goodyear through Desser Tire in Memphis, TN.
Tom in Ohio
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Cimino" <jcimino@echoes.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Tire Replancement Suggestions
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Cimino" <jcimino@echoes.net>
>
> Which Goodyear tires are they using flight special/flight custom?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom & Cathy Ervin" <tcervin@valkyrie.net>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Tire Replancement Suggestions
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Tom & Cathy Ervin"
<tcervin@valkyrie.net>
> >
> > Jim, Although I am not flying yet I installed "Good-Year Tires" on my
> RV6-A
> > and fitted the wheel pants to match. The FBO where I fly out of uses
> nothing
> > but Goodyear even on the C-172 Trainer as landings per tire justify the
> > extra cost in his mind.
> > I work for Lockheed Martin and believe the large majority of
> > Military Aircraft use Goodyear also which is good enough for me.
> >
> > Tom in Ohio
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jim Cimino" <jcimino@echoes.net>
> > To: "RV-LIST" <rv-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: RV-List: Tire Replancement Suggestions
> >
> >
> > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Cimino" <jcimino@echoes.net>
> > >
> > > The Aero Trainers bit the dust today after 80 hrs of flight...the
valve
> > stem must have stuck open after I filled them today and one was flat
when
> I
> > landed. It holds air, but has a cut in the sidewall. I am looking for
> new
> > tires...any suggestions. I have not been impressed with the Aero
Tainers.
> > My brother-in-law works for GoodYear. Of coarse I should see who close
by
> > has which tires in stock, but I can't do that until Thursday. I am off
> > until next Wednesday and hope to do some more flying. Any suggestions
> would
> > be great.
> > > Jim
> > >
> > > James Cimino
> > > RV-8 SN 80039
> > > 80+ Hours
> > > 570-842-4057
> > > http://www.geocities.com/jcimino.geo/
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Knots or mph? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Randy Compton" <rdcompton@earthlink.net>
> I find the dual-scale ASI's very hard to read. I recommend you pick one
scale
> and just use that. Since charts, ATC, and the rule book are in knots, I
also
> recommend that you use knots.
I concur. The dual-scale indicators seem "busy." I went with knots as
well, and for all of the afore-mentioned reasons.
But, I do know a couple of RV-ers that like mph because of the "big"
numbers. Makes 'em feel like they're going really fast!
Randy Compton
RV-3 N84VF "Spades"
Gulf Breeze, FL
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| Subject: | Re: RV-List:St Louis area R/V ers: need help engine failure |
--> RV-List message posted by: "WALTER KERR" <kerrjb@msn.com>
I re-issued this because you could not see where help is needed on the
original. Tried calling Tim at motel earlier to check status of help, but he
was out. Some of the locals there should try to follow up to see what you
can do to help a fellow R/Ver
Merry Christmas
Bernie Kerr
>From: "Tim Lewis"<timrv6a@earthlink.net>
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV-List: need help engine failure-forced landing in St. Louis
>Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 19:43:04 -0800
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Lewis"<timrv6a@earthlink.net>
>
>I'm Tim Lewis's mother. He requested I send this e-mail because his engine
>failed and he was forced to make an emergency landing in a corn field
>southeast of the Scott Air Force/Mid America Airport in the St. Louis area.
>He is requesting help from any RVers in the St. Louis area that could help
>arrange for moving the airplane (flatbed or other means) and/or locating a
>hanger at Scott/Mid America (BLV) or Shafer Airport (3K6)where he could
>work
>on the plane. Use of the hanger would be short term; just until he can
>find
>the cause of the engine failure and fix it.
>Tim can be contacted at the Scott Inn at Scott Air Force Base - phone #
>618-744-1200 and ask for Tim Lewis. ****Do NOT REPLY to this message. Tim
>does not have e-mail access.****
>You may e-mail me at ard863s@smsu.edu. I will check my e-mail before 8 am
>Wednesday, then after late Wednesday evening when I return home with Tim's
>wife and son. Carol Lewis
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Knots or mph? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tracy Crook" <lors01@msn.com>
>
> But, I do know a couple of RV-ers that like mph because of the "big"
> numbers. Makes 'em feel like they're going really fast!
*That* must be why some guys like to blast into the traffic pattern at 170
knots! I've got this great little control on my RV-4 that allows it to slow
down to 80 knots or so. :-)
Tracy
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| Subject: | Re: Jim Cimino Re: Aero Trainer tires (10 hour tires) |
--> RV-List message posted by: "WALTER KERR" <kerrjb@msn.com>
There must be a large variation in Aero Trainer tires! Maybe it's the warm
temp in Fla or the soft grass or the superb landings :>) 350 hours on
original. Granted I live at a grass field, do a lot of long distance legs
(Ft Pierce to Memphis 4:15) but still half or more at paved strips. Almost
always do full flap, full stall landings. The brakes are less than half worn
at last conditional inspection.
>
>Dick DeCramer wrote:
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Dick DeCramer" <diesel@rconnect.com>
> >
> > Jim...
> >
> > I had Aero Trainer tires on a Cessna and they did not last over 10 hrs
>meanwhile I had fit wheel fairings to those tires. I then installed
>Michelin Aviator tires which lasted at least 250 hrs but they had so much
>more rubber on than the Aero Trainers that the wheel fairings would not fit
>over them. Now that I am completing my RV-6 I am thinking of buying high
>end tires to fit my wheel fairings ( probably Michelin) and relegating the
>Van supplied Aero Trainers to standby duty. I will highly recommend
>Michelin but you will have to expect this wheel fairing fit problem.
> >
> > Dick DeCramer
> > RV-6 0-320 Sennsenich
> > Northfield, MN
> >
>
>
>Wow ten hours, were you landing with the brakes locked each time? :-) I
>would get
>about 125-150 hours with Aero trainers on my RV-6. I got about 200 hours
>with
>Michelins. I just this last month put on a new set of Desser recap tires.
>They used a
>Aero trainers 6 ply carcass but the caps look like a very high grade of
>rubber and
>also have about 1/32" more tread grove. They appear to be a very high
>quality tire.
>I well know more how they wear after flying with them for a few hours. My
>RV-6 wears
>the tires on the inside extremely fast. Hopefully the new drilled gear and
>mount line
>up better.
>
>Marry Christmas,
>Jerry
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| Subject: | Re: Knots or mph? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Kysh <vans-dragon@lapdragon.org>
As Tracy Crook was saying:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Tracy Crook" <lors01@msn.com>
>
> >
> > But, I do know a couple of RV-ers that like mph because of the "big"
> > numbers. Makes 'em feel like they're going really fast!
>
>
> *That* must be why some guys like to blast into the traffic pattern at 170
> knots! I've got this great little control on my RV-4 that allows it to slow
> down to 80 knots or so. :-)
Must be a rotary thing. ;>
-Kysh
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| Subject: | Knots or MPH; pattern speeds |
--> RV-List message posted by: "KostaLewis" <mikel@dimensional.com>
>But, I do know a couple of RV-ers that like mph because of the "big"
>numbers. Makes 'em feel like they're going really fast!
>Randy Compton
>RV-3 N84VF "Spades"
>Gulf Breeze, FL
Randy: I just had to laugh. In fact, I did, right out loud. After the
debate on aileron spades, you said you were going to have to think of a
cute nickname. "Spades". Cracked me up. Thanks for the Christmas
chuckle!!
Knots on the AIS. I was born and raised on MPH (Cub) and got an AIS with
MPH on the outside and knots on the inside at a good price. The uEncoder
is in MPH, the GPS only tells me knots. It's all what you are used to or
want in your bird. I am used to looking at my AIS with both and it
doesn't bother me at all. I can also look at it and easily convert the
GPS knots to MPH if necessary (when?) just by looking at the instrument.
(Saw 190 KNOTS the other day with the tail wind. Convert THAT!!)
If you are looking to fly formation, it MAY help to have both as some of
your formation mates may have one but not the other. If your lead is
calling speeds in knots, nice to have it; if in MPH, nice to have that
too. But then, you should all be flying the same speed anyway be it
knots or MPH; that's why they call it a formation.
Speed in the pattern: drives me nuts to have people roaring into the
pattern at the home field at 150kts or so where there is a mix if
ultralights, Cubs and Champs, with everyone else. Heard it said more
than once how "hard it is to slow down in the pattern with such a slick
airframe". One need to slow down before one gets to the pattern.
IMHO
Michael
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| Subject: | Re: Knots or mph |
--> RV-List message posted by: JRWillJR@aol.com
I have noticed that I have my GPS set in statute miles. The two Cessniods
that I currently fly have dual scales. Anyway, when ATC gives me a location,
for example, Cessniod XXXZZ I have you 4.6 miles SE from Stump and Jump
Airport, that I also am showing 4.6 on the GPS. So, my question, are they
reporting positions in Statute miles? Going back to our earlier conversation
under "Flying Comments" are you guys reporting positions in nautical or
statute miles? I guess for our purposes when reporting positions at
uncontrolled airports a few thousand feet (horozontal) don't matter. Almost
every airplane that I can remember having flown had a MPH and or a dual
scale. I am just a civialian hobby pilot so I realize there are other ways of
doing things. I like the "finer" scale of the MPH unit for approach and
takeoff and the "coarser" knot scale for use with sectionals. I prefer the
MPH on the outside and the knots on the inside. Do Not Archive JR
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| Subject: | Re: New Duckworks Lights |
--> RV-List message posted by: Gert <gert@execpc.com>
Was reading some ad's in either Sport Aviation or AOPA toting HID's,
there was a small print saying NOT to use them over 10.000 foot MSL
gert
Norman wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Norman" <nhunger@sprint.ca>
>
> I vote against these new lights.
> 1 They cost $900 USD for two, WOW! That's big bucks.
> 2 NO WIG WAGS allowed. Too bad, they are a truely great safety feature and
> I already bought Bob Haan's solid state flasher.
> 3 2 lbs extra weight
>
> I'm not going to claim to know anything about flying RVs at night but I will
> claim to know a fair amount about lighting. Changing the 55 watt bulbs out
> for 100 watt bulbs will make a huge difference, cost under $20, and weigh no
> more than the standard Duckworks landing light. Totally the way to go. Do
> the math on the wire size and upgrade if you can. I planned for these bulbs
> when building my wings and I wasn't even on the RV List back then. It just
> seemed obvious. I must recommend new builders to wire their wings with 14
> gusge wire to the light positions. Better yet, an item from my "if I were
> doing it again file" is to line the wing with a lightweight 1/2" plastic PVC
> pipe and run all the wires at final assembly. No connectors at the wing
> root, just a small service loop.
>
> Norman Hunger
> RV6A Delta BC
>
>
>>If you check Van's site, you'll see that they are carrying a new light kit
>>
> from Duckworks. It uses the new HID technology and promises more light on
> less power.
>
>>Also, Duckworks has a retrofit kit for aircraft with the halogen light
>>
> kit. I've never been particularly impressed by the light output of my 55w
> halogen light, and am probably going to order the upgrade kit. By the way,
> on Duckworks site: www.duckworksaviation.com, they indicate that you should
> contact them directly (Not Van's) if you want to retrofit your airplane.
>
>>Does anyone out there in RV land have one of the new lights? Is there a
>>
> noticable difference in runway visibility?
>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>KB
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
Bernie,
I got your phone message but wasn't sure if you were still in Memphis
when I picked it up.
In reference to the flyin:
1) I don't know positively whether or not I will be present, I have no
desire to make the trip in anything other than good weather. :-)
2) I don't have any interest in speaking about BMA since that is now
dated info and I don't want to appear to be bashing BMA since not much
of my experience with the Lites was positive.
So, thanks for the speaking invite, but I need to decline. I do hope to
be able to make the trip, however, and look forward to seeing the
Florida gang.
Hope you have a great Holiday!
Sam
P.S. I looked on the Sun-N-Fun site and the RV flyin was no longer on
the calendar. Also heard from Mike Stewart that Laura Crook was dealing
with health issues. Is the event still a go?
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| Subject: | Re: Jim Cimino Re: Aero Trainer tires |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
Be careful and always check clearances after installing new tires. Even
within the same brand they can vary up to 1/2" in diameter.
Cy Galley, TC - Chair, Emergency Aircraft Repair, Oshkosh
Editor, EAA Safety Programs
cgalley@qcbc.org or experimenter@eaa.org
Always looking for articles for the Experimenter
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Weiler" <dougweil@pressenter.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Jim Cimino Re: Aero Trainer tires
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Weiler" <dougweil@pressenter.com>
>
> >
> > I had Aero Trainer tires on a Cessna and they did not last over 10 hrs
> meanwhile I had fit wheel fairings to those tires. I then installed
> Michelin Aviator tires which lasted at least 250 hrs but they had so much
> more rubber on than the Aero Trainers that the wheel fairings would not
fit
> over them. Now that I am completing my RV-6 I am thinking of buying high
> end tires to fit my wheel fairings ( probably Michelin) and relegating the
> Van supplied Aero Trainers to standby duty. I will highly recommend
> Michelin but you will have to expect this wheel fairing fit problem.
> >
> > Dick DeCramer
> > RV-6 0-320 Sennsenich
> > Northfield, MN
> >
>
> I have Michelin Air tires on both my RV's. I really had no problem with
> wheel pant clearance. The "Airs" are the rounded shape vs. the sculptured
> sidewall. They are bullet-proof and seem to last forever (they certainly
> did on my Cessna 180). NWA uses them exclusively on our 757s so they must
> be tough as nails.
>
> Doug Weiler
> Hudson, WI
>
>
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| Subject: | Wing Fuselage Assembly |
--> RV-List message posted by: JTAnon@aol.com
Building an RV7A QB ... using standard fuel pickups on both sides.
I've reached page 8-13 in the manual where the next step is Wing/Fuselage
assembly. Here's my problem:
My shop is a one car garage. That and the weather make it impossible to
mount the wings at this point. In looking at drwg 36A it seems that the only
real problem in proceeding with installing the cabin systems without mounting
the wings is the fuel line connection to the wing tank.
Questions:
Can I just use a connector through the side skin to terminate the fuel line
run from the valve to the side skin, and run a short piece from that to the
tank later?
Are there other issues I'm missing if I go ahead with cabin systems and mount
the wings later?
Thanks in advance.
John McDonnell (RV7A QB)
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| Subject: | Re: New Duckworks Lights |
--> RV-List message posted by: "David Burton" <dburton@nwlink.com>
> Was reading some ad's in either Sport Aviation or AOPA toting HID's,
> there was a small print saying NOT to use them over 10.000 foot MSL
>
> gert
Since the LoPresti units are stc'd for 210s and Barons I'll bet they are
good to FL 30 without much problem...
http://speedmods.com/boom_beam_systems.htm
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--> RV-List message posted by: "David Burton" <dburton@nwlink.com>
> Sam
>
> P.S. I looked on the Sun-N-Fun site and the RV flyin was no longer on
> the calendar. Also heard from Mike Stewart that Laura Crook was dealing
> with health issues. Is the event still a go?
Hope it still is a go.... Still listed on the Rotaryaviation web page and
the OpenAirNet fun places to fly page:
http://www.fun-places-to-fly.com/events/events.asp?Event_State=FL
Hope Laura is doing well too.
Merry Christmas to all!
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| Subject: | RE: Kelly Johnson |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Hassel" <bob@hassel-usa.com>
Looking to make contact with Kelly Johnson. I had his email but seem to
have lost it. I have some pictures of his on my web site. An old friend is
looking to make contact.
Thanks,
Bob
Bob Hassel
Email: bob @ hassel-usa.com <mailto:bob@hassel-usa.com>
URL: http://www.hassel-usa.com
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Rob W M Shipley" <Rob@RobsGlass.com>
Thank you all for your input. I was almost cetain which way to go but as always
there were some interesting aspects to this I hadn't considered - most notably
the two below
"There's another neat thing about knots. For rough estimation, 100fpm
vertical is very close to 1 knot. Thus 500fpm down is essentially 5 knots
down. From this comes a glide (or descent) ratio. Some of us glider guys
used to have our variometers calibrated in knots. Gordon Comfort N363GC"
and
"I am using knots for ........when I call ATC they are looking at my position in
nautical miles. If I
program my gps to statute then my reported distance never agrees with theirs. Len
Leggette, RV-8A"
All the replies were most appreciated and, Gummi Bear, I'll try and take you up
on your offer to visit as soon I can.
Rob
Rob W M Shipley
RV9A N919RV Fuselage.
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Tracy Crook" <lors01@msn.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Burton" <dburton@nwlink.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: RV flyin
> --> RV-List message posted by: "David Burton" <dburton@nwlink.com>
>
> > Sam
> >
> > P.S. I looked on the Sun-N-Fun site and the RV flyin was no longer on
> > the calendar. Also heard from Mike Stewart that Laura Crook was dealing
> > with health issues. Is the event still a go?
>
> Hope it still is a go.... Still listed on the Rotaryaviation web page and
> the OpenAirNet fun places to fly page:
> http://www.fun-places-to-fly.com/events/events.asp?Event_State=FL
>
> Hope Laura is doing well too.
>
> Merry Christmas to all!
Yes, the Sun 'n Fun fly-in is still on.
See you there.
Tracy
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Fuselage Assembly |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Neil McLeod" <neilmcleod@direcway.com>
I have almost the same situation. I don't know how it is going to work out
for sure yet but I'm waiting until I take everything to the airport to put
the wings on.
Neil McLeod
7 QB inverted fuel
----- Original Message -----
From: <JTAnon@aol.com>
Subject: RV-List: Wing Fuselage Assembly
> --> RV-List message posted by: JTAnon@aol.com
>
> Building an RV7A QB ... using standard fuel pickups on both sides.
>
> I've reached page 8-13 in the manual where the next step is Wing/Fuselage
> assembly. Here's my problem:
>
> My shop is a one car garage. That and the weather make it impossible to
> mount the wings at this point. In looking at drwg 36A it seems that the
only
> real problem in proceeding with installing the cabin systems without
mounting
> the wings is the fuel line connection to the wing tank.
>
> Questions:
>
> Can I just use a connector through the side skin to terminate the fuel
line
> run from the valve to the side skin, and run a short piece from that to
the
> tank later?
>
> Are there other issues I'm missing if I go ahead with cabin systems and
mount
> the wings later?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> John McDonnell (RV7A QB)
>
>
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| Subject: | need help engine failure-forced landing in St. Louis |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
Anyone know the latest details on this situation?
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
Do not archive
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Lewis"<timrv6a@earthlink.net>
>
> I'm Tim Lewis's mother. He requested I send this e-mail
> because his engine failed and he was forced to make an
> emergency landing in a corn field southeast of the Scott Air
> Force/Mid America Airport in the St. Louis area.
> He is requesting help from any RVers in the St. Louis area
> that could help arrange for moving the airplane (flatbed or
> other means) and/or locating a hanger at Scott/Mid America
> (BLV) or Shafer Airport (3K6)where he could work on the
> plane. Use of the hanger would be short term; just until he
> can find the cause of the engine failure and fix it. Tim can
> be contacted at the Scott Inn at Scott Air Force Base - phone
> # 618-744-1200 and ask for Tim Lewis. ****Do NOT REPLY to
> this message. Tim does not have e-mail access.**** You may
> e-mail me at ard863s@smsu.edu. I will check my e-mail before
> 8 am Wednesday, then after late Wednesday evening when I
> return home with Tim's wife and son. Carol Lewis
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Fuselage Assembly |
--> RV-List message posted by: Lonnie Woodman <fxdlrider@yahoo.com>
The fewer connections the better, but if you use a bulkhead connector, you should
be OK. Would also make removing the wings in an emergency situation much easier.
Neil McLeod <neilmcleod@direcway.com> wrote:--> RV-List message posted by: "Neil
McLeod"
I have almost the same situation. I don't know how it is going to work out
for sure yet but I'm waiting until I take everything to the airport to put
the wings on.
Neil McLeod
7 QB inverted fuel
----- Original Message -----
From:
Subject: RV-List: Wing Fuselage Assembly
> --> RV-List message posted by: JTAnon@aol.com
>
> Building an RV7A QB ... using standard fuel pickups on both sides.
>
> I've reached page 8-13 in the manual where the next step is Wing/Fuselage
> assembly. Here's my problem:
>
> My shop is a one car garage. That and the weather make it impossible to
> mount the wings at this point. In looking at drwg 36A it seems that the
only
> real problem in proceeding with installing the cabin systems without
mounting
> the wings is the fuel line connection to the wing tank.
>
> Questions:
>
> Can I just use a connector through the side skin to terminate the fuel
line
> run from the valve to the side skin, and run a short piece from that to
the
> tank later?
>
> Are there other issues I'm missing if I go ahead with cabin systems and
mount
> the wings later?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> John McDonnell (RV7A QB)
>
>
---------------------------------
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--> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
Well.............obviously I failed to change the reply info which
resulted in a private message being sent to the whole world........ :-(
My deepest apologies and regrets if I inadvertently transmitted
erroneous information.
Sam Buchanan
========================
Sam Buchanan wrote:
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
>
> Bernie,
> In reference to the flyin:
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Fuselage Assembly |
--> RV-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" <lhelming@sigecom.net>
I am building the slow RV7 and have completed the wing attachment in a one
car garage. I mounted one wing at a time. It takes no less than about 15'
by 20'.
> My shop is a one car garage. That and the weather make it impossible to
> mount the wings at this point. In looking at drwg 36A it seems that the
only
> real problem in proceeding with installing the cabin systems without
mounting
> the wings is the fuel line connection to the wing tank.
Now, I see no problem with not mounting the wing for a while and going ahead
with completing the fuselage. The fuel and vent lines will be no problem as
you described.
Larry in Indiana
----- Original Message -----
From: <JTAnon@aol.com>
Subject: RV-List: Wing Fuselage Assembly
> --> RV-List message posted by: JTAnon@aol.com
>
> Building an RV7A QB ... using standard fuel pickups on both sides.
>
> I've reached page 8-13 in the manual where the next step is Wing/Fuselage
> assembly. Here's my problem:
>
> My shop is a one car garage. That and the weather make it impossible to
> mount the wings at this point. In looking at drwg 36A it seems that the
only
> real problem in proceeding with installing the cabin systems without
mounting
> the wings is the fuel line connection to the wing tank.
>
> Questions:
>
> Can I just use a connector through the side skin to terminate the fuel
line
> run from the valve to the side skin, and run a short piece from that to
the
> tank later?
>
> Are there other issues I'm missing if I go ahead with cabin systems and
mount
> the wings later?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> John McDonnell (RV7A QB)
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Fuselage Assembly |
--> RV-List message posted by: WILLMINCEY@aol.com
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--> RV-List message posted by: WILLMINCEY@aol.com
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Besing" <azpilot@extremezone.com>
do not archive
Just a note to all that I will be signing off the RV List for the next few months.
I'm going to flight school in the Army and will not be able to read the list
for a while. For future reference, my email address is pbesing@yahoo.com
Happy Holidays to all.
Paul Besing
RV-6A Sold (Waiting on the RV-10)
http://www.lacodeworks.com/besing
Kitlog Pro Builder's Log Software
http://www.kitlog.com
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| Subject: | Re: Knots or mph? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Dave Bristol <bj034@lafn.org>
Randy Compton wrote:
> But, I do know a couple of RV-ers that like mph because of the "big"
> numbers. Makes 'em feel like they're going really fast!
>
> Randy Compton
> RV-3 N84VF "Spades"
> Gulf Breeze, FL
But of course using knots makes us feel like airline pilots or F16 jockies! Or
was that boat captains?
do not archive
Dave
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| Subject: | slotting the cowl for the nose gear |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Gary" <rv9er@3rivers.net>
How did you guys locate the slot in the lower cowl for the nose gear? I am doing
a -9A which uses the 6A cowl. Not only is it difficult to find the center
of the lower cowl scoop, but the scoop is off center on the cowl. The nose gear,
is of course on the a/c centerline.
Any neat tricks for this?
Thanks, and Happy Holidays.
Gary
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