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1. 02:37 AM - Re: Filter for Andair Gascolator (Malcolm Wheatley)
2. 05:59 AM - Re: Seat Bottoms (Richard Dudley)
3. 06:27 AM - Battery Replacement (Will Cretsinger)
4. 06:37 AM - Re: Changing tubes (Ollie Washburn)
5. 07:22 AM - Re: Battery Replacement (Ollie Washburn)
6. 07:42 AM - Re: Battery Replacement (Jerry Springer)
7. 07:43 AM - Re: Battery Replacement (Wes)
8. 07:46 AM - Re: RV-8 Panel (czechsix@juno.com)
9. 07:47 AM - Re: Changing tubes (Wes)
10. 08:54 AM - Re: Changing tubes (Sam Buchanan)
11. 09:20 AM - Re: Changing tubes (rv6tc)
12. 09:59 AM - Re: Battery Replacement (Vanremog@aol.com)
13. 10:03 AM - Re: stiffening the canopy and defrost fans (Norman)
14. 10:07 AM - Aligning pants and fairings (Gary)
15. 10:26 AM - Re: Battery Replacement (Ed_Cole@maximhq.com)
16. 10:46 AM - Re: Battery Replacement (Mauri Morin)
17. 11:45 AM - Re: Jim Cimino Re: Aero Trainer tires (Will Cretsinger)
18. 11:46 AM - Re: EIS (Will Cretsinger)
19. 12:08 PM - Engine Hoist - Vancouver BC Area (Norman)
20. 12:57 PM - Re: Jim Cimino Re: Aero Trainer tires (Doug Rozendaal)
21. 12:57 PM - Rv8 wing conduit routing (lucky macy)
22. 01:30 PM - Re: [rv8list] Rv8 wing conduit routing (Randy Lervold)
23. 02:05 PM - stolen pilots log book ? (WPAerial@aol.com)
24. 02:27 PM - Re: Re: Aero Trainer tires (George McNutt)
25. 02:28 PM - Re: Re: [rv8list] Rv8 wing conduit routing (lucky macy)
26. 02:45 PM - Re: stolen pilots log book ? (George McNutt)
27. 02:53 PM - RV-6A Fuel Capacity (Jim Oke)
28. 03:50 PM - Re: RV-6A Fuel Capacity (Don R Jordan)
29. 04:22 PM - Re: stolen pilots log book ? (Dr. Leathers)
30. 05:54 PM - Re: Rv8 wing conduit routing (Norman)
31. 05:58 PM - Re: Re: Aero Trainer tires (Alex Peterson)
32. 06:21 PM - Re: stolen pilots log book ? (Norman)
33. 06:47 PM - Re: stolen pilots log book ? (Jerry Springer)
34. 08:06 PM - Re: Re: Aero Trainer tires (George McNutt)
35. 08:54 PM - Accidental IFR!!!! (Stein Bruch)
36. 09:37 PM - Locate slot in cowl (j1j2h3@juno.com)
37. 10:01 PM - 1 1/2" Beauty Ring (Norman)
38. 10:02 PM - Re: stolen pilots log book ? (Norman)
39. 10:13 PM - Re: Accidental IFR!!!! (Konrad Werner)
40. 10:25 PM - Re: Jim Cimino Re: Aero Trainer tires (H.Ivan Haecker)
41. 10:25 PM - Re: Battery Replacement (H.Ivan Haecker)
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| Subject: | RE: Filter for Andair Gascolator |
--> RV-List message posted by: Malcolm Wheatley <rv9a_builder@btopenworld.com>
Kurt,
Communicating with Andair has come up a couple of times. Turns out they
are apparently not very reliable at answering email. I'm in England. If
you like, I can phone them and ask, but we're in the middle of the
Christmas and New Year shutdown, now, so it might not be until next week
that I get an answer. Email me if you want me to call them. (And anyone
else with similar queries.)
Malcolm Wheatley
RV-9A, slowly
Time: 04:41:35 AM PST US
From: KAKlewin@aol.com
Subject: RV-List: Filter for Andair Gascolator
--> RV-List message posted by: KAKlewin@aol.com
Howdy...just wondering if anyone knows where I can get a replacement filter
screen
for the andair 3/8 in gascolator? I have emailed them twice over the last
month to no avail. Any suppliers in the US?
Kurt in OKC
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: Seat Bottoms |
--> RV-List message posted by: Richard Dudley <rhdudley@att.net>
Thanks for all the comments in response to my post.
Richard Dudley
Richard Dudley wrote:
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Richard Dudley <rhdudley@att.net>
>
> Hi Listers,
>
> My question is regarding the material(s) used for filling the space
> under the actual seat cushions. A review of the archives did not yield
> very much.
>
> The top layers of the seat clearly need to be some sort of foam with the
> most attractive (and most expensive) being Tempurfoam. However, the
> space beneath the foam which is of the order of 5" (RV-6A) can be a much
> firmer material and possibly rigid. An attractive material because of
> its easy fabrication and lightness is the common insulation foam used in
> home construction. However, this is polystyrene which will not meet a
> simple flammability test. When exposed to a flame, it melts and will
> burn.
>
> However, in the location under the cushions, is fire resistance an
> important consideration? In thinking about how that area could be
> exposed to flame, it would seem that, in order for that material to
> reach high enough temperatures, the occupants would already been done in
> by flames and whether or not the seat bottoms burn would become moot.
>
> I would be interested in any insights, experiences you have had as well
> as the material selections you have made (for those who made their
> seats). For those who purchased seats, do you know what the materials
> are in your seat bottoms?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all.
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Dudley
> -6A FWF
>
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\"C. W. Crane\"" <cwcrane@gbronline.com>
| Subject: | Battery Replacement |
--> RV-List message posted by: Will Cretsinger <cretsinger@ticnet.com>
I am considering replacing my Concorde RG-25 (12v, 21Ah) battery after
almost four years and 550 hours of service to lower the probability of
being inconvenienced away from home base. The Odyssey PC625 battery has
been noted on the List as a lower priced replacement.
Has everyone who has installed the Odyssey had good experience? Is it
the same size as the Concorde and same terminals for a direct change out
into my battery box? I understand the Odyssey is a "starved
electrolyte" battery and not an RG like the Concorde.
If I again go with the Concorde, is Vans the best source?
Comments appreciated...
Will Cretsinger, Arlington, Texas
RV-6A
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| Subject: | Re: Changing tubes |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ollie Washburn" <skybolt-aviator@msn.com>
I'd suggest changing to air-stop tubes by Michelin.They hold air at least 3 times
longer than regular tubes.
Ollie 6A Central Fl.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mr Christopher McGough
Subject: RV-List: Changing tubes
--> RV-List message posted by: "Mr Christopher McGough" <vhmum@bigpond.com>
Hi all Merry Christmas........
When I need to change my tyres
on my 6 should the tubes be changed as well. The manufactures say to . I was
wondering if that was an over kill?
Chris and Susie
VH-MUM 95 Hours
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| Subject: | Re: Battery Replacement |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ollie Washburn" <skybolt-aviator@msn.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: Will Cretsinger
Subject: RV-List: Battery Replacement
--> RV-List message posted by: Will Cretsinger <cretsinger@ticnet.com>
I am considering replacing my Concorde RG-25 (12v, 21Ah) battery after
almost four years and 550 hours of service to lower the probability of
being inconvenienced away from home base. The Odyssey PC625 battery has
been noted on the List as a lower priced replacement.
I replaced my battery about 8 mos. with an Odessey and it hs done a good job so
far.We also have one in a Christen Eagle for about 2 yrs.and it does amuch better
job.
Has everyone who has installed the Odyssey had good experience? Is it
the same size as the Concorde and same terminals for a direct change out
into my battery box? I understand the Odyssey is a "starved
electrolyte" battery and not an RG like the Concorde.
The Odessey is about half the size and weight of Rg 25.I packed solid styrofoam
around the Odessey to fill up the battery box.
A good price can be found at Batterys Plus etc.
Ollie
If I again go with the Concorde, is Vans the best source?
Comments appreciated...
Will Cretsinger, Arlington, Texas
RV-6A
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| Subject: | Re: Battery Replacement |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
Will Cretsinger wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Will Cretsinger <cretsinger@ticnet.com>
>
> I am considering replacing my Concorde RG-25 (12v, 21Ah) battery after
> almost four years and 550 hours of service to lower the probability of
> being inconvenienced away from home base. The Odyssey PC625 battery has
> been noted on the List as a lower priced replacement.
>
> Has everyone who has installed the Odyssey had good experience? Is it
> the same size as the Concorde and same terminals for a direct change out
> into my battery box? I understand the Odyssey is a "starved
> electrolyte" battery and not an RG like the Concorde.
>
> If I again go with the Concorde, is Vans the best source?
>
> Comments appreciated...
>
> Will Cretsinger, Arlington, Texas
> RV-6A
>
>
Will,
Cannot answer you on how they work but can tell you the best place that I have
found
to get one.
http://www.sunnbattery.bigstep.com/HolidayHome/HolidayPage.html This is Sunn
battery in Jacksonville, FL and this is a Christmas special so don't know how long
the price well last.
I just ordered a Odyssey 680 yesterday from them for $74 and change and shipping
is
$5.50. I see they have the -625 that you are interested in for something like $79.00.
They shipped it almost immediately as UPS sent me a notification it is on its way.
Van's has the same -680 for $135.00, don't know if they carry the -625. The closest
price I could find anywhere else is $99.00 delivered for the -680.
I did call them to order but she told me that the price was only good if I ordered
through the internet, so don't know what is up with that.
Hope this helps
Jerry
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| Subject: | Re: Battery Replacement |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Wes" <whays@camalott.com>
Will, I used the Oddesy PC625 in TUT. I did recently replace it on the
second annual. It was still strong and absolutely no corrosion on the
terminals. The old battery was still good, so I used it on my riding
lawnmower. In the two years, I never had a problem with low voltage and the
battery spun the 360 very well. As a matter of fact, when the plugs were
out, there was enough wind to taxi ;-).
Hope you had a happy holidays and Charlie is running well.
Wes.
RV-6A
N844WB
Winters, TX (77F)
300 + hours
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--> RV-List message posted by: czechsix@juno.com
Brian, unfortunately no pics to show, I'd have to borrow a digital camera to take
some and I'm not even at home right now. I need to get a good digital camera
as I've had people inquire about several things on my RV and am not set up
to take pictures easily. Too bad Santa forgot to bring me one....
do not archive
--Mark Navratil
Cedar Rapids, Iowa (N. Carolina this week)
RV-8A N2D finishing on hold for the holidays...
From: Brian Huffaker <bifft@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: RV-8 Panel
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--> RV-List message posted by: Brian Huffaker <bifft@xmission.com>
On Thu, 26 Dec 2002 czechsix@juno.com wrote:
> BTW I did not cut an arc in my panel....I just made a straight line cut
>all the way across the removeable part of the panel except at each end
>where I curved it down to blend in to the fixed side panels. IMHO I
>think it looks very nice and doesn't take away much panel space. Also, I
>took the 90 deg bent angle piece that I cut off and riveted it on behind
>the panel to retain the stiffness....it's even more rigid than before,
>without any added weight...
Do you have any pictures of this? I am planning on doing the same
thing, as my knees hit the panel bottom when sitting in the factory -8.
Also ordered the tall pilot option, but haven't got the plane together
enough to sit in it yet. (hope to have it right-side-up next month)
Thanks in advance.
Brian Huffaker, DSWL (bifft@xmission.com)
RV-8A 80091 Riviting Fuselage.
1/4 Starduster II N23UT flying
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| Subject: | Re: Changing tubes |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Wes" <whays@camalott.com>
I would echo the comments on the Michelin tubes. I don't think I have had to
add air but one time this year. I checked them a couple of more because they
just "looked low". I put them in after the first year when I replaced the
tires with Goodyear. Kinda expensive, but I would imagine a lot more
convenient than a flat and much less expensive than a blowout. Although
stuff happens, having a good pair of shoes on the bird give me some piece of
mind.
Wes Hays
RV-6A
N844WB
Winters, TX (77F)
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| Subject: | Re: Changing tubes |
--> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
Another thought on "blowouts". I am sure there are some listers that
could relate horror stories about tubes and tires failing
catastrophically, but the two instances I have seen of RV tires with
punctures have just resulted in the tire going ...
ppppppphhhhhhhhlaaaattt. No explosions, no flying rubber, no screams of
terror from the pilot .......really disappointing.... ;-)
Sam Buchanan
=======================
Wes wrote:
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Wes" <whays@camalott.com>
>
> I would echo the comments on the Michelin tubes. I don't think I have had to
> add air but one time this year. I checked them a couple of more because they
> just "looked low". I put them in after the first year when I replaced the
> tires with Goodyear. Kinda expensive, but I would imagine a lot more
> convenient than a flat and much less expensive than a blowout. Although
> stuff happens, having a good pair of shoes on the bird give me some piece of
> mind.
>
> Wes Hays
> RV-6A
> N844WB
> Winters, TX (77F)
>
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| Subject: | Re: Changing tubes |
--> RV-List message posted by: "rv6tc" <rv6tc@earthlink.net>
Well Sam,
You just wait until I get mine flying.....
My luck, there will not only be flying rubber and screams, but flames and
bodily fluids, too.
Keith Hughes
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sam Buchanan" <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Changing tubes
> --> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
>
> Another thought on "blowouts". I am sure there are some listers that
> could relate horror stories about tubes and tires failing
> catastrophically, but the two instances I have seen of RV tires with
> punctures have just resulted in the tire going ...
> ppppppphhhhhhhhlaaaattt. No explosions, no flying rubber, no screams of
> terror from the pilot .......really disappointing.... ;-)
>
> Sam Buchanan
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| Subject: | Re: Battery Replacement |
--> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com
In a message dated 12/27/2002 6:30:43 AM Pacific Standard Time,
cretsinger@ticnet.com writes:
> I am considering replacing my Concorde RG-25 (12v, 21Ah) battery after
> almost four years and 550 hours of service to lower the probability of
> being inconvenienced away from home base. The Odyssey PC625 battery has
> been noted on the List as a lower priced replacement.
>
> Has everyone who has installed the Odyssey had good experience? Is it
> the same size as the Concorde and same terminals for a direct change out
> into my battery box? I understand the Odyssey is a "starved
> electrolyte" battery and not an RG like the Concorde.
The Hawker Odyssey PC680 has been working well for me. The height is
basically the same as the RG-25 Concorde, but you will have to make up some
ethafoam top, end and side spacers to make it fit tightly in the former RG-25
battery enclosure. It saves 9 lbs.
They are both VRLA (valve regulated lead acid or starved electrolyte)
batteries. The Odysseys are built to have a lower internal resistance, so
you get much better cranking current with a smaller amp-hour rating. If this
battery is also running electronic ignition(s), I would recommend you stay
with the larger amp-hour rated battery. Van's or Chief have similar prices
IIRC.
-GV (RV-6A N1GV 586hrs)
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| Subject: | Re: stiffening the canopy and defrost fans |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Norman" <nhunger@sprint.ca>
----- Original Message -----
From: LarryRobertHelming
To: nhunger@sprint.ca
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 8:08 AM
Subject: stiffening the canopy and defrost fans
Norman: I read your recent post on the list on the captioned topics.
I was just wondering if you gave thought to just cutting some slots in the top
of the canopy frame for natural warm air updraft from behind the panel rather
than using the defrost fans as you have done? I suppose that things could drop
into that kind of slot and get lost.
Also, did you give consideration to using the inexpensive personal computer fans
for the defrosters?
Larry in Indiana, working on an RV7 to be named 3XG if its girl. Or 3XB if its
a nose wheeler
Hi Larry and the List,
The fans are inexpensive computer fans. When selecting them you have to be carefull
that they have the right kind of bearing in them to be mounted horizontal.
The dealer should be able to look this up in one of those big books behind the
counter. Most small fan motors are designed to be verticle and would wear out
in short order when mounted flat.
Mine are mounted quite far forward to take advantage of the warm air that is behind
the panel. They have stainless steel screen covers that nothing can fall
into. They blow a significant amount of air. I have two and they are lined up
with each occupants vision.
I live on the west coast of Canada where it is habitually moist. Window defogging
is some thing that I use in my cars every day that it rains. I keep air moving
over the glass whenever it is wet outside. Even in the depth of winter I never
put all the heat to my feet. I see the main mission of my aircraft as a XC
machine so I think I will see more rain than most. Nothing worse than constantly
having to wipe the plexi just to see out. Keep warm air moving accross the
plexi and it will stay dry and clear.
I have major doubts that there will be enough heat to call them defrosters. Lets
just call them defoggers. There is no way they could melt off a covering of
ice in flight but I could be wrong. I am not flying yet nor do I plan on testing
this theory.
Perhaps some one could host two pictures for me?
Norman Hunger
RV6A Delta BC
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| Subject: | Aligning pants and fairings |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Gary" <rv9er@3rivers.net>
Yep, all done with that. I used a cherry-picker type engine hoist to lift the
plane. I put straps around the spar connect bolts, lifted it till the wheels
just barely touched the floor, and made sure it was level.
Drop plumb bobs from the center belly-to-firewall rivet hole and the little hole
for the purpose just ahead of the tail tiedown. Snap a chalkline on the floor.
Mark a centerline on the pants all the way around. With a nice straight
board, you can align the pants with the chalkline.
Now, here is the trick: when doing the gear fairings, clamp a straight board across
the steps. Draw a centerline on the belly. Measure from the centerline
to the front of the fairing, and the centerline to the board at the step. Put
a nail in the board at that point, and wrap a string around the fairing and
to the nail. When the trailing edge of the fairing is centered between the strings
with no weight on the gear, you are there. Using the steps instead of some
exotic fixture at the tail is much easier, and I think still plenty accurate.
Mark the gear leg and fairing well, so you don't lose your marks when you glass
the stiffener on the leg.
And DON'T cut the slots for the hose clamps at the top of the fairing! It is
a crummy way to attach them. The clamp sticks out, interferes with the brake
fitting, and makes extra messy layup work.
Instead, make a nice little wood block on each side of the stiffener at the top,
which fits against the inside of the aft part of the fairing. Then after it
is glassed to the leg, put a machine screw through the whole works, and it will
stay aligned and secure.
Gary
----- Original Message -----
From: Andy Karmy
To: Gary
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: cowl slot
Have you done your gear leg fairings or wheel pants yet? I am doing that now
and it sure is confusing trying to get then pointing in the right direction based
upon the plans description...
- Andy
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| Subject: | Battery Replacement |
--> RV-List message posted by: Ed_Cole@maximhq.com
For those thinking of the Odyssey battery, be advised that Van's has a
firewall
mounting kit ala the RV7 for mounting the battery firewall forward.
The it comes with the battery box. stiffeners and a separate print for
mounting
the box, solenoids, etc. Cost is $50
Ed Cole
RV6A N2169D Flying
RV6A N648RV Finishing
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanremog@aol.com [SMTP:Vanremog@aol.com]
> Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 9:53 AM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Battery Replacement
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 12/27/2002 6:30:43 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> cretsinger@ticnet.com writes:
>
> > I am considering replacing my Concorde RG-25 (12v, 21Ah) battery after
> > almost four years and 550 hours of service to lower the probability of
> > being inconvenienced away from home base. The Odyssey PC625 battery has
> > been noted on the List as a lower priced replacement.
> >
> > Has everyone who has installed the Odyssey had good experience? Is it
> > the same size as the Concorde and same terminals for a direct change out
> > into my battery box? I understand the Odyssey is a "starved
> > electrolyte" battery and not an RG like the Concorde.
>
> The Hawker Odyssey PC680 has been working well for me. The height is
> basically the same as the RG-25 Concorde, but you will have to make up
> some
> ethafoam top, end and side spacers to make it fit tightly in the former
> RG-25
> battery enclosure. It saves 9 lbs.
>
> They are both VRLA (valve regulated lead acid or starved electrolyte)
> batteries. The Odysseys are built to have a lower internal resistance, so
>
> you get much better cranking current with a smaller amp-hour rating. If
> this
> battery is also running electronic ignition(s), I would recommend you stay
>
> with the larger amp-hour rated battery. Van's or Chief have similar
> prices
> IIRC.
>
> -GV (RV-6A N1GV 586hrs)
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Battery Replacement |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Mauri Morin" <maurv8@bigsky.net>
Will,
Check out: Batteries4Everthing.com
PC625 $57.32
PC680 $62.55
You will see specs plus demensions
Mauri Morin Polson,Mt
RV8 wings/tanks Veeery slowly
----- Original Message -----
From: "Will Cretsinger" <cretsinger@ticnet.com>
Subject: RV-List: Battery Replacement
> --> RV-List message posted by: Will Cretsinger <cretsinger@ticnet.com>
>
> I am considering replacing my Concorde RG-25 (12v, 21Ah) battery after
> almost four years and 550 hours of service to lower the probability of
> being inconvenienced away from home base. The Odyssey PC625 battery has
> been noted on the List as a lower priced replacement.
>
> Has everyone who has installed the Odyssey had good experience? Is it
> the same size as the Concorde and same terminals for a direct change out
> into my battery box? I understand the Odyssey is a "starved
> electrolyte" battery and not an RG like the Concorde.
>
> If I again go with the Concorde, is Vans the best source?
>
> Comments appreciated...
>
> Will Cretsinger, Arlington, Texas
> RV-6A
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Jim Cimino Re: Aero Trainer tires |
--> RV-List message posted by: Will Cretsinger <cretsinger@ticnet.com>
Jim, there is surely a vast difference in our experience with Aero
Trainer tires. I have worn out three sets of Aero Trainers. Landings
on them were 211, 233, and 218. I figure the cost at about 30 cents per
landing. I realize tires tend to be a macho thing and Aero Trainers are
not macho, just a good value.
Referring to tire wear in terms of hours is not definitive. If you
always have long flights and never make practice landings, your tires
may last a thousand hours or more! Or there may be a problem causing
excessive wear.
Will Cretsinger, Arlington, Texas
RV-6A
Dick DeCramer wrote:
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dick DeCramer" <diesel@rconnect.com>
>
> Jim...
>
> I had Aero Trainer tires on a Cessna and they did not last over 10 hrs meanwhile
I had fit wheel fairings to those tires. I then installed Michelin Aviator
tires which lasted at least 250 hrs but they had so much more rubber on than
the Aero Trainers that the wheel fairings would not fit over them. Now that
I am completing my RV-6 I am thinking of buying high end tires to fit my wheel
fairings ( probably Michelin) and relegating the Van supplied Aero Trainers to
standby duty. I will highly recommend Michelin but you will have to expect
this wheel fairing fit problem.
>
> Dick DeCramer
> RV-6 0-320 Sennsenich
> Northfield, MN
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: Will Cretsinger <cretsinger@ticnet.com>
Ollie, my EIS performs great and is a great value, in my opinion. It
has more capability than I utilize. I especially like the alarm which
can be set as you like for any malfunction of the engine.
Will Cretsinger, Arlington, Texas
RV-6A
Ollie Washburn wrote:
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Ollie Washburn" <skybolt-aviator@msn.com>
>
> Listers---
> I have checked the archives and don't see much listed on usage of
> Grand Rapids Tech.(EIS) eng.monitor.Is anyone using the 4000 and if so what are
your comments on it.
> Ollie 6A Central Fl.
>
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| Subject: | Engine Hoist - Vancouver BC Area |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Norman" <nhunger@sprint.ca>
Hi Listers, I just scored a 5 ton hydralic engine hoist a few days ago and wanted
to offer it out to any RV/Rocket builders in my area. This thing is huge. It
has two different lifting arms for the front, one for low clearance and a regular
straight one. Actuation is by a hand pump deal simular to a bottle jack
but much bigger. I've also got a selection of chains and straps. The whole thing
pins together so it fits inside my Expedition no problem. Would go inside a
mini van with no seats.
The only thing I ask for is an hour of dual if you fly before me but I will recipricate
and provide an hour dual for you if I beat you to first flight. For two
hours I will deliver and retrieve the hoist.
Please plan your engine installation to limit use to a one week period if you are
doing it in CASCAR's racing season because I need quick access to it when the
heat is on. Winter months it can go out for longer periods.
Norman Hunger
RV6A Delta BC
Tedd, can you repost on the Western Canadian Wing list?
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| Subject: | Re: Jim Cimino Re: Aero Trainer tires |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com>
Just for perspective, on the B-25 we figure $75/landing for tires and
brakes.
Tailwinds,
Doug Rozendaal
Do not archive
> --> RV-List message posted by: Will Cretsinger <cretsinger@ticnet.com>
> I figure the cost at about 30 cents per
> landing.
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| Subject: | Rv8 wing conduit routing |
--> RV-List message posted by: "lucky macy" <luckymacy@hotmail.com>
I asked this question about a month ago and didn't get straight answer so I'll
try again :-)
In the RV archives there's a hint that Bill Benedict (RIP) recommended routing
the wing wiring conduit in front of the main spar but as I look at the plans and
try to visualize if there's enough space around the Z brackets I can't convince
myself that this is possible.
Anyone out there done it and can recommend a path around the back of the tank that
works? I've looked around web sites but haven't run across any pictures of
this route yet but I'm holding out that it's been done.
thanks,
lucky macy
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| Subject: | Re: [rv8list] Rv8 wing conduit routing |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Randy Lervold" <randy@rv-8.com>
Lucky,
I think you may be misreading that hint. With the RV-8 there really isn't enough
room behind the fuel tank to have the wires be serviceable. I would highly recommend
you put them BEHIND the spar, in either the top or bottom corner. You
could in the center but this can get in the way of the aileron bellcrank. In
my case I used an AMP CPC connector with gold contacts to pass the wires through
the fuselage wall at a point centered on the middle wing rib lightening hole.
That way the wing pigtail could extend out into the rib and not be forced to
bend faster than it wanted to.
Randy Lervold
RV-8, N558RL, 285 hours and holding due to WEATHER
www.rv-8.com
----- Original Message -----
From: lucky macy
To: rv-list ; rv8list rv8list
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 12:52 PM
Subject: [rv8list] Rv8 wing conduit routing
I asked this question about a month ago and didn't get straight answer so I'll
try again :-)
In the RV archives there's a hint that Bill Benedict (RIP) recommended routing
the wing wiring conduit in front of the main spar but as I look at the plans
and try to visualize if there's enough space around the Z brackets I can't convince
myself that this is possible.
Anyone out there done it and can recommend a path around the back of the tank
that works? I've looked around web sites but haven't run across any pictures
of this route yet but I'm holding out that it's been done.
thanks,
lucky macy
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| Subject: | stolen pilots log book ? |
--> RV-List message posted by: WPAerial@aol.com
My log book was stolen last week during a break in of my business.
Does anyone think there is anything I have to do about this? What about my
insurance co., FAA ect.
I guess my first flight in my RV on the 23rd will be my first entry in my new
book -----------cool I guess-------. Or should the first entry be an
estimate of my total time?
Jerry Wilken
RV6A N699WP
1.2 hours
Albany Oregon
275 Pacific Blvd.
Albany, Oregon 97321
541-926-8316
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| Subject: | Re: Re: Aero Trainer tires |
--> RV-List message posted by: "George McNutt" <gmcnutt@intergate.ca>
--> RV-List message posted by: Will Cretsinger <cretsinger@ticnet.com>
I have worn out three sets of Aero Trainers. Landings
on them were 211, 233, and 218. I figure the cost at about 30 cents per
landing. I realize tires tend to be a macho thing and Aero Trainers are
not macho, just a good value.
-------------------snip -----------------
Will Cretsinger, Arlington, Texas
RV-6A
Hi Will
Just a couple of questions,
(1) did you have to rotate the tires on the wheels to get that many landings
out of them?
(2) was the most wear on the inner side of the tires?
My Aero Trainers were well worn on the inner half at 155 landings so I have
rotated them and now have 20 more landings and am monitoring them for wear.
I had been advised to baby the nosegear on my 6-A so my first 155 landings &
takeoffs were precautionary type keeping the nosewheel off the ground as
much as possible.
I suspect the nose up attitude changes the gear geometry and tracking
causing scrubbing on the inner tire surface so now I am now using a (normal)
more level takeoff and landing roll to see if tire wear changes.
George McNutt, Langley, B.C.
6-A 110 hrs.
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| Subject: | Re: [rv8list] Rv8 wing conduit routing |
--> RV-List message posted by: "lucky macy" <luckymacy@hotmail.com>
Hi Randy, Danny and listers,
I got off the phone with a Van's employee just a few minutes ago before your
emails came in. I normally don't really get hard and fast answers from these
folks on non-critical stuff like this so I usually elect to save my dime and
not even bother to call but this time was slightly different. Seems no one
I ever get on the phone at the builders support option has ever built an 8.
I think this time was no different WRT 8 expertise BUT the person seemed
aware of the 8 tank design and told me that he recommended that I do try and
route in front of the spar and along the bottom of the wing. The only place
for concern is at the root end where the spar reinforcement is the thickest
and tank baffle clearance is the least as seen on drawing 16A. That's the
drawing I was looking at which was giving me the concern to begin with.
There's still over 1/4 clearance and the fella gave me a couple of ideas on
what to use if chaffing was a concern.
To summarize, it was recommended to go through the normal front leading edge
ribs conventionally, ie, grommets, bushings or some type of conduit for the
outer half of the wing. For the traversing the length of the tank, I could
attach some standoffs on the Z brackets to route the wires through or just
leave wire in there freely below the Z brackets and put a anti-chaffing
cover he recommended over the wires.
I'll sleep on it. I really like the idea of running in front of the spar.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Randy Lervold" <randy@rv-8.com>
Subject: RV-List: Re: [rv8list] Rv8 wing conduit routing
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Randy Lervold" <randy@rv-8.com>
>
> Lucky,
>
> I think you may be misreading that hint. With the RV-8 there really isn't
enough room behind the fuel tank to have the wires be serviceable. I would
highly recommend you put them BEHIND the spar, in either the top or bottom
corner. You could in the center but this can get in the way of the aileron
bellcrank. In my case I used an AMP CPC connector with gold contacts to pass
the wires through the fuselage wall at a point centered on the middle wing
rib lightening hole. That way the wing pigtail could extend out into the rib
and not be forced to bend faster than it wanted to.
>
> Randy Lervold
> RV-8, N558RL, 285 hours and holding due to WEATHER
> www.rv-8.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: lucky macy
> To: rv-list ; rv8list rv8list
> Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 12:52 PM
> Subject: [rv8list] Rv8 wing conduit routing
>
>
> I asked this question about a month ago and didn't get straight answer
so I'll try again :-)
>
> In the RV archives there's a hint that Bill Benedict (RIP) recommended
routing the wing wiring conduit in front of the main spar but as I look at
the plans and try to visualize if there's enough space around the Z brackets
I can't convince myself that this is possible.
>
> Anyone out there done it and can recommend a path around the back of the
tank that works? I've looked around web sites but haven't run across any
pictures of this route yet but I'm holding out that it's been done.
>
> thanks,
> lucky macy
>
>
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| Subject: | stolen pilots log book ? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "George McNutt" <gmcnutt@intergate.ca>
--> RV-List message posted by: WPAerial@aol.com
My log book was stolen last week during a break in of my business.
Does anyone think there is anything I have to do about this? What about my
insurance co., FAA ect.
I guess my first flight in my RV on the 23rd will be my first entry in my
new
book -----------cool I guess-------. Or should the first entry be an
estimate of my total time?
Jerry Wilken
RV6A N699WP
1.2 hours
Hi Jerry
Is there anyone who could certify that your previous flight time was
correct, Instructor/Flight School from last BFR etc, in Canada we give our
previous flight time when we have a medical so Transport Canada has a rough
estimate up to our last medical date.
Check with FAA, but in any case it would look better if someone important
enough to have a Rubber Stamp could certify your previous time, or estimated
time, as correct.
My opinion only,
George McNutt, Langley B.C.
6-A
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| Subject: | RV-6A Fuel Capacity |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jim Oke <wjoke@shaw.ca>
It's time to think of making up fuel tank placards and such. Can anyone comment
on the actual, measured capacity of a stock RV-6A fuel tank - stated in US gallons,
IMP gallons, or litres? Van's web site says 38 US gallons total so presumably
19 a side. Is this reasonably accurate?
Cheers, Jim Oke
RV-6A C-GKGZ - at the airport - final assembly.
Winnipeg, MB
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| Subject: | Re: RV-6A Fuel Capacity |
--> RV-List message posted by: Don R Jordan <dons6a@juno.com>
I drained the left & got 18.8 gallons in it , that is setting on the
ramp. Haven't got around to doing the right.
Don Jordan - RV6A - N6DJ
Arlington, Tx
*******************************************************
On Fri, 27 Dec 2002 16:50:09 -0600 Jim Oke <wjoke@shaw.ca> writes:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Jim Oke <wjoke@shaw.ca>
>
> It's time to think of making up fuel tank placards and such. Can
> anyone comment on the actual, measured capacity of a stock RV-6A
> fuel tank - stated in US gallons, IMP gallons, or litres? Van's web
> site says 38 US gallons total so presumably 19 a side. Is this
> reasonably accurate?
>
> Cheers, Jim Oke
> RV-6A C-GKGZ - at the airport - final assembly.
> Winnipeg, MB
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| Subject: | Re: stolen pilots log book ? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dr. Leathers" <DrLeathers@822heal.com>
OK Everyone,
You are already sitting at your computer. Go get your log book and scan
every page (or at least back to the last time you totaled up your hours).
Transfer the scans to a CD ROM and copy it several times. Store one copy in
your house and another at your office / hanger etc. Better to learn from
Jerry's mistake than your own. I know! Don't ask! Happy Holidays!!
DOC
----- Original Message -----
From: <WPAerial@aol.com>
Subject: RV-List: stolen pilots log book ?
> --> RV-List message posted by: WPAerial@aol.com
>
> My log book was stolen last week during a break in of my business.
>
> Does anyone think there is anything I have to do about this? What about my
> insurance co., FAA ect.
>
> I guess my first flight in my RV on the 23rd will be my first entry in my
new
> book -----------cool I guess-------. Or should the first entry be an
> estimate of my total time?
>
> Jerry Wilken
> RV6A N699WP
> 1.2 hours
>
> Albany Oregon
> 275 Pacific Blvd.
> Albany, Oregon 97321
>
> 541-926-8316
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Rv8 wing conduit routing |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Norman" <nhunger@sprint.ca>
> I asked this question about a month ago and didn't get straight answer so
I'll try again :-)
>
> In the RV archives there's a hint that Bill Benedict (RIP) recommended
routing the wing wiring conduit in front of the main spar but as I look at
the plans and try to visualize if there's enough space around the Z brackets
I can't convince myself that this is possible.
>
> Anyone out there done it and can recommend a path around the back of the
tank that works?
What is the date of the post? Is it possible that Bill was building a
different airplane like an RV6? My RV6A builders manual (6 or 7 years old
non pre-puched) suggests routing in front of the spar but doesn't go into
how to go about doing it. I ended up getting some small plastic tie wrap
mounts that go on with one pop rivet. My wires are in a plastic conduit
(Vans) and firmly tie wrapped to these little mounts at short intervals. I
think the idea was to go in front of the spar due to the hassle of getting
the wires behind the spar when still inside the fuselage.
If I were doing it again, I would get some 1/2" white PVC plastic pipe from
the lawn sprinkler section of Home Depot and run it through both wings about
a foot behind the spar and very close to the top. I would pre drill all the
ribs with a Unibit before assembling the wing skelleton. A good look at the
plans or another builder's project is a must while constantly thinking about
where the aileron control tubes need to operate freely. A small dab of RTV
silicone at each rib will stop the plastic pipe from rattling or moving
horizontally. I would also buy a new roll of dental floss and install about
five runs of it in each pipe. (landing light, position light, rear light,
ground, strobes, AOA sensor, antennas, ect...) Tape each end off at the top
and bottom and use them to pull wires. Remove extra ones at final
inspection.
I did read a theory a long time ago that this type of conduit should be made
of metal so that if a wire does chafe bare, it will short out and have its
one spark to blow the fuse/breaker in a confined area that is not likely to
have any flammible fluids near. Another theory has the wing plumbed with a
fat conduit to the bay with the aileron bellcrank the a small conduit to the
wingtip. That way the pitot line can run along for the first half.
Norman Hunger
RV6A Delta BC
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| Subject: | Re: Re: Aero Trainer tires |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@usjet.net>
> My Aero Trainers were well worn on the inner half at 155
> landings so I have rotated them and now have 20 more landings
> and am monitoring them for wear.
Worn on the inner half?? When the gear first touch ground, the outer
edges are what cooks when they spin up. If the inner sides are wearing,
you might have some sort of alignment problem.
>
> I had been advised to baby the nosegear on my 6-A so my first
> 155 landings & takeoffs were precautionary type keeping the
> nosewheel off the ground as much as possible. I suspect the
> nose up attitude changes the gear geometry and tracking
> causing scrubbing on the inner tire surface so now I am now
> using a (normal) more level takeoff and landing roll to see
> if tire wear changes.
I keep the nose wheel off as long as the elevator will allow it,
gradually pulling the stick full aft, and all my wear has been on the
outside of the tires. Takeoff rolls have minimal time with the
nosewheel off, since about 1 second later I'm in the air. I am about to
replace the original Aero Trainers from Van's at a bit over 300
landings, probably 95% on hard surface runways. I did rotate them
inside to outside at around 200 landings.
Alex Peterson
Maple Grove, MN
RV6-A N66AP 242 hours
www.usfamily.net/web/alexpeterson
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| Subject: | Re: stolen pilots log book ? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Norman" <nhunger@sprint.ca>
> I guess my first flight in my RV on the 23rd will be my first entry in my
new
> book -----------cool I guess-------. Or should the first entry be an
> estimate of my total time?
Your first entry should be an estimate of your previous flight time and the
logbook should be titled #2.
My opinion only.
Norman Hunger
RV6A Delta BC
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: stolen pilots log book ? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
Norman wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Norman" <nhunger@sprint.ca>
>
>>I guess my first flight in my RV on the 23rd will be my first entry in my
>
> new
>
>>book -----------cool I guess-------. Or should the first entry be an
>>estimate of my total time?
>
>
> Your first entry should be an estimate of your previous flight time and the
> logbook should be titled #2.
> My opinion only.
>
> Norman Hunger
> RV6A Delta BC
> Do not archive
>
>
>
Also if you are in US FAA well have a record of what you wrote down at your last
medical and accept that figure.
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Re: Aero Trainer tires |
--> RV-List message posted by: "George McNutt" <gmcnutt@intergate.ca>
> My Aero Trainers were well worn on the inner half at 155
> landings so I have rotated them and now have 20 more landings
> and am monitoring them for wear.
Worn on the inner half?? When the gear first touch ground, the outer
edges are what cooks when they spin up. If the inner sides are wearing,
you might have some sort of alignment problem.
-------------------------
Hi Alex
You are absolutely right, the wear occurs on the outer side. I am forgetting
that I rotated the tires on rim and now it shows up on inner side. Little
things get complicated with age!
Do not archive
George McNutt, Langley, B.C.
6-A
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| Subject: | Accidental IFR!!!! |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com>
Hi All,
Slightly off-topic, but VERY pertinent none the less.
Today a friend and I had the day off so we decided to fly from Minneapolis
to Milwaukee to see some old buds at the Citabria factory. Weather online
looked good...checked METARS,TAFS,RADAR,SATELLITE, etc.. Forecast was
great...so....
We took off around 10:00 am for an expected 1.5 hour flight to Milwaukee.
Great flight, 205mph over the ground and arrived at the Citabria factory's
airport ahead of schedule to some hefty crosswinds, but nothing else.
Stayed there until about 2:00pm then went outside to head home. Here starts
my flight from hell.
There was an overcast layer about 3500', but clear below and the forecasts
looked OK, so off we went for MSP. Winds had picked up to 18G22 directly
across the runway, but not a huge deal since the wind at home was only
8-12KT. Flew for about .5 hour and started running into some haze and the
clouds were getting lower. We pressed on, but had decided to turn back if
it didn't get better. Well, it didn't and about 5 minutes later the clouds
dropped all the way to the ground and into a wall of
fog/haze/clouds/overcast we went:( Made an immediate 180 to go back, but
the weather suddenly had dropped all over the place. SOLID IFR/IMC and 0/0
visibility! Heading back didn't help. Called flight watch and found out
the layer was only about 2000' thick and VFR on top. Since these planes
just love to climb, we immediately went up above. Beautiful sun over the
clouds and away towards Minneapolis we go! Fly back to the flight plan that
was plugged into my SkyforceIIIc and proceeded to fly towards home when
about 5 minutes later the GPS lost all satellite signals and I got a "no fix
possible" warning. GREAT, no ground to look at and no GPS. We were
originally just going to follow the good old Mississippi river home, but no
good above a solid cloud deck.
All this while flying against a 35Kt Cross/Headwind that made flying
straight & level miserable, terribly bumpy (+4/-2G), and overall NO FUN.
I had to revert to flying with the VOR---GOD I'm glad I put that thing in my
panel! Pulled out the sectional, found some VOR's and got back on track
towards home. Called flight watch and found out the clouds were breaking
near Minneapolis so everything was pretty smooth from there. About 20 miles
south of MSP the clouds broke and we arrived safely, albeit a bit tired,
stressed, and somewhat rattled.
Anyway, my whole point is that I've become some dependent on my GPS and it's
flight plans that I've rarely had occasion to use my charts and VOR. Just
thought I'd pass on a reminder to everyone that it definately pays to keep a
sectional handy. Additionally, if you have a VOR, it pays to keep at least
somewhat current! Oh, one last thing...flying IFR/IMC "accidently" is NO
FUN and definately NOT SAFE when you're not prepared.
Well, happy flying and CLEAR SKIES!
Cheers,
Stein Bruch
RV6, Minneapolis
Do Not Archive.
P.S. I looked at the weather when I got home, and it looked much better than
it actually was. Lesson Learned.
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| Subject: | Locate slot in cowl |
--> RV-List message posted by: j1j2h3@juno.com
I haven't done this, but I think it would work - mount the gear, then
build a cowl pattern around it using thin cardboard or stiff paper. Then
remove the pattern and lay it on your cowl to locate the slot.
Jim Hasper - RV-7 just starting empennage
On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 21:19:52 -0700 "Gary" <rv9er@3rivers.net> writes:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Gary" <rv9er@3rivers.net>
>
> How did you guys locate the slot in the lower cowl for the nose
> gear?
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| Subject: | 1 1/2" Beauty Ring |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Norman" <nhunger@sprint.ca>
I'm seeking a 1.5" beauty ring for the top of my glairsheild. I have 1.5" round
holes there for my defogger fans to blow onto the canopy. My glair sheild is
covered by 1/4" high density foam then a layer of black auto upholstery. I have
to make a round cut out for the fans to blow through and I would like to drop
a piece of trim. Any suggestions?
I see in ACS page 120 PN# 10350-6 the aluminum ducting flanges. These are sort
of the right idea but I was hoping to find something a whole bunch smaller. These
flanges would have me running off to buy a belt sander to file them down to
1/3 their stock size. Please help!
Norman Hunger
RV6A Delta BC
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: stolen pilots log book ? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Norman" <nhunger@sprint.ca>
> Also if you are in US FAA well have a record of what you wrote down at
your last
> medical and accept that figure.
>
> do not archive
I was wondering about that because it is the case in Canada.
Norman
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| Subject: | Re: Accidental IFR!!!! |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Konrad Werner" <Connywerner@wans.net>
Dear Stein,
Glad to see that you made it safely back home (shaken, not stirred!).
Happy New Year 2003!!
Konrad
ABQ, NM
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com>
"Rv6-List" <rv6-list@matronics.com>; "Rv7-List" <rv7-list@matronics.com>
Subject: RV-List: Accidental IFR!!!!
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com>
>
> Hi All,
>
> Slightly off-topic, but VERY pertinent none the less.
>
> Today a friend and I had the day off so we decided to fly from Minneapolis
> to Milwaukee to see some old buds at the Citabria factory. Weather online
> looked good...checked METARS,TAFS,RADAR,SATELLITE, etc.. Forecast was
> great...so....
>
> We took off around 10:00 am for an expected 1.5 hour flight to Milwaukee.
> Great flight, 205mph over the ground and arrived at the Citabria factory's
> airport ahead of schedule to some hefty crosswinds, but nothing else.
> Stayed there until about 2:00pm then went outside to head home. Here
starts
> my flight from hell.
>
> There was an overcast layer about 3500', but clear below and the forecasts
> looked OK, so off we went for MSP. Winds had picked up to 18G22 directly
> across the runway, but not a huge deal since the wind at home was only
> 8-12KT. Flew for about .5 hour and started running into some haze and the
> clouds were getting lower. We pressed on, but had decided to turn back if
> it didn't get better. Well, it didn't and about 5 minutes later the
clouds
> dropped all the way to the ground and into a wall of
> fog/haze/clouds/overcast we went:( Made an immediate 180 to go back, but
> the weather suddenly had dropped all over the place. SOLID IFR/IMC and 0/0
> visibility! Heading back didn't help. Called flight watch and found out
> the layer was only about 2000' thick and VFR on top. Since these planes
> just love to climb, we immediately went up above. Beautiful sun over the
> clouds and away towards Minneapolis we go! Fly back to the flight plan
that
> was plugged into my SkyforceIIIc and proceeded to fly towards home when
> about 5 minutes later the GPS lost all satellite signals and I got a "no
fix
> possible" warning. GREAT, no ground to look at and no GPS. We were
> originally just going to follow the good old Mississippi river home, but
no
> good above a solid cloud deck.
>
> All this while flying against a 35Kt Cross/Headwind that made flying
> straight & level miserable, terribly bumpy (+4/-2G), and overall NO FUN.
>
> I had to revert to flying with the VOR---GOD I'm glad I put that thing in
my
> panel! Pulled out the sectional, found some VOR's and got back on track
> towards home. Called flight watch and found out the clouds were breaking
> near Minneapolis so everything was pretty smooth from there. About 20
miles
> south of MSP the clouds broke and we arrived safely, albeit a bit tired,
> stressed, and somewhat rattled.
>
> Anyway, my whole point is that I've become some dependent on my GPS and
it's
> flight plans that I've rarely had occasion to use my charts and VOR. Just
> thought I'd pass on a reminder to everyone that it definately pays to keep
a
> sectional handy. Additionally, if you have a VOR, it pays to keep at
least
> somewhat current! Oh, one last thing...flying IFR/IMC "accidently" is NO
> FUN and definately NOT SAFE when you're not prepared.
>
> Well, happy flying and CLEAR SKIES!
>
> Cheers,
> Stein Bruch
> RV6, Minneapolis
>
> Do Not Archive.
>
> P.S. I looked at the weather when I got home, and it looked much better
than
> it actually was. Lesson Learned.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Jim Cimino Re: Aero Trainer tires |
--> RV-List message posted by: "H.Ivan Haecker" <baremetl@gvtc.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Will Cretsinger" <cretsinger@ticnet.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Jim Cimino Re: Aero Trainer tires
> --> RV-List message posted by: Will Cretsinger <cretsinger@ticnet.com>
>
> Jim, there is surely a vast difference in our experience with Aero
> Trainer tires. I have worn out three sets of Aero Trainers. Landings
> on them were 211, 233, and 218. I figure the cost at about 30 cents per
> landing. I realize tires tend to be a macho thing and Aero Trainers are
> not macho, just a good value.
>
> Referring to tire wear in terms of hours is not definitive. If you
> always have long flights and never make practice landings, your tires
> may last a thousand hours or more! Or there may be a problem causing
> excessive wear.
>
> Will Cretsinger, Arlington, Texas
> RV-6A
>
> I started out with Goodyear Flight Specials and got 512 landings according
to my logbook. Rotated them one time. I now have another 390 on my second
set and expect to come up a little short this time around, maybe because I
didn't rotate them the second time. So I think the more expensive tire lasts
longer. I might come out ahead since I don't have to do the labor as often,
but it's not that difficult anyway. BTW, I am still using the same tubes
after 870 hrs.(also Goodyears).
Ivan Haecker -4 So.Cen.Tx
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"RV-List <rv-list@matronics.com> \"C. W. Crane\"" <cwcrane@gbronline.com>
| Subject: | Re: Battery Replacement |
--> RV-List message posted by: "H.Ivan Haecker" <baremetl@gvtc.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Will Cretsinger" <cretsinger@ticnet.com>
Subject: RV-List: Battery Replacement
> --> RV-List message posted by: Will Cretsinger <cretsinger@ticnet.com>
>
> Has everyone who has installed the Odyssey had good experience?
On the plus side, my experience has been good cranking speeds, and of couse
the lower weight. The down side... . be especially careful not to leave the
master on even for a couple of hours. I really hate hand proppping my short
legged -4. I think the price you pay with these batteries is decreased
capacity i.e. lots of power but of short duration. At least that's been my
experience. But for me the decreased weight is worth the trade off. I just
wish there was a way to push start these planes!
Ivan Haecker -4 870 hrs. So. Cen. TX
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