---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 12/31/02: 28 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:29 AM - Re: Multi-pin wire connectors (Stein Bruch) 2. 05:24 AM - Re: Under the cowl GPS antenna ?? (Carroll Bird) 3. 07:30 AM - Oil on airplane belly (Randy Compton) 4. 08:36 AM - Paint Shops on East Coast (Lenleg@aol.com) 5. 08:50 AM - Re: Oil on airplane belly (Stephen Johnson) 6. 09:12 AM - Re: Under the cowl GPS antenna ?? (John Starn) 7. 10:08 AM - Re: Paint Shops on East Coast (Dave von Linsowe) 8. 10:31 AM - Re: Oil on airplane belly (Randy Compton) 9. 11:55 AM - Re: Oil on airplane belly (Michael McGee) 10. 12:04 PM - Re: Paint Shops on East Coast (Dane Sheahen) 11. 01:01 PM - Re: Oil on airplane belly (Elsa & Henry) 12. 01:46 PM - Re: Paint Shops on East Coast (Craig Warner) 13. 01:53 PM - Re: Paint Shops on East Coast (Cy Galley) 14. 01:58 PM - Poping noise (Jim Nolan) 15. 02:43 PM - how to remove pop rivet? (Jerry Howell) 16. 03:23 PM - Re: how to remove pop rivet? (Gert) 17. 03:29 PM - Re: how to remove pop rivet? (J. R. Dial) 18. 03:47 PM - Re: how to remove pop rivet? (Lonnie Woodman) 19. 04:46 PM - Fw: Paint Shops on East Coast (C. Rabaut) 20. 04:55 PM - Re: Oil on airplane belly (George McNutt) 21. 06:52 PM - 2003 Calendar (Larry Bowen) 22. 07:28 PM - Re: 2003 Calendar (J. R. Dial) 23. 07:31 PM - Re: how to remove pop rivet? (Steve J Hurlbut) 24. 07:46 PM - Re: 2003 Calendar (David Burton) 25. 07:51 PM - Re: 2003 Calendar (RV6 Flyer) 26. 08:03 PM - Re: Paint Shops on East Coast (WILLMINCEY@aol.com) 27. 08:13 PM - Re: 2003 Calendar (Tom & Cathy Ervin) 28. 09:28 PM - Re: 2003 Calendar (Larry Bowen) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:29:22 AM PST US From: "Stein Bruch" Subject: RE: RV-List: Multi-pin wire connectors --> RV-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch" Hi Steve, One of the best all around types of connectors are Cannon Plugs. They can be bought in ANY size from 3 pins up to 100+ in one connector ranging from 1/2" diameter to 4+" in diameter. They come in may shapes, sizes, materials, and types. Simple twist, plastic, metal, thermocouple, etc... You can find them supporting wire guages/pin sizes from 2-30AWG wire,etc.. They've been Aerospace industry standard for years. I have my almost everything in my plane wired with some sort of connectors (Cannon, Molex, D-Sub), in fact nearly my whole panel can be pulled out by disconnecting 3 cannon plugs! The fact that I'm a lazy A&P that doesn't like difficult maintenance, I tried to build my plane with maintenance/upgrades in mind. The Cannon plugs I used are the newer hard black plastic and take only about a half twist to disconnect. For all the wires through the firewall, I used a 48pin Mil-Spec sealed metal cannon plug that can be disconnected on both sides of the firewall. Makes for an easy and clean firewall penetration. FYI, the really good pins are gold plated and are NOT cheap, but they work on the space shuttle and Boeings, so.... Digi-Key stocks hundreds of variable kinds, pins, tools, etc.. and just about every other kind of connector you could ever think of including molex, D-subs, etc.. as does allied electronics and several other big distribution houses. Hope this help, Stein Bruch RV6, Minneapolis. -> RV-List message posted by: "Steve J Hurlbut" The search continues. I looked at the Newark Electronics website and every electronics catalog I have along with RC catalogs but can't seem to find a good wire connector. I would like to have a quick disconnect for each wing to fuselage wire assembly as well and for the control columns. I initially wanted to use 9 pin connectors but can only seem to find the males ones. Can someone give me a place and part number for a good quick disconnect for these wires? Thank you Steve RV7A wiring, wiring, more wiring ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:24:59 AM PST US From: Carroll Bird Subject: Re: RV-List: Under the cowl GPS antenna ?? --> RV-List message posted by: Carroll Bird SportAV8R@aol.com wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com > > In a message dated 12/28/2002 9:24:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, > jnorman@intermapsystems.com writes: > > > . The issue about > > metalic paint is a wive's tail... > > > > Jim > > > > I almost declined to go here, but: I think he means "tale." > > There is a difference... ;-) > What's a wive anyway? > do not archive > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:30:32 AM PST US From: "Randy Compton" Subject: RV-List: Oil on airplane belly --> RV-List message posted by: "Randy Compton" Listers: I now have about 40 hours since a major overhaul of my Lyc O-320. I have been consistently getting some oil on the belly just aft of / in line with the engine breather line. This has been happening even while doing nothing but straight-and-level cross country type flying. It's doesn't seem to be a lot, but just enough to make a 6-inch diameter splotch and a few run-back lines for a foot or so. The flight-times have all been in the 1 to 2 hour range. Perhaps it could be due to over-servicing the oil quantity, but I am getting this oil mess even when the quantity is showing 6 quarts. I did an oil change yesterday and saw no oil leaks anywhere at all on the engine or accessories. I've been told that a new/freshly overhauled engine should not be blowing any oil if it is broken-in and serviced correctly, so I'm beginning to wonder if I have a cylinder problem or something. I've also heard that a glazed cylinder will cause the crankcase to pressurize excessively and oil to blow out. What's puzzling is that I followed the break-in instructions exactly. I did not "baby" the engine, and all the operating temps, etc. have been good. I've been running the engine at 65% to 75% power on the x/c flights, varying between the two at 10 to 15 minute intervals. Any insight here will be most appreciated. Thanks, Randy Compton RV-3 N84VF Gulf Breeze, FL ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:36:11 AM PST US From: Lenleg@aol.com Subject: RV-List: Paint Shops on East Coast --> RV-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com List: I had my paint shop all lined up for the end of January and yesterday they called me with a $2000 price increase. I politely declined !!! (well, maybe not so politely !!) Anyone have good recommendations for shops on the east coast that are also reasonable. I have had quotes of $7000-9000. I just don't believe it has to be that expensive for a simple paint scheme. Thanks !! Len Leggette RV-8A N901LL Greensboro, N.C. 44 hours !! ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:50:38 AM PST US From: "Stephen Johnson" Subject: Re: RV-List: Oil on airplane belly --> RV-List message posted by: "Stephen Johnson" I assume you are running mineral oil for the break-in. There was a recent article in AOPA Pilot about breaking in a fresh overhaul, and they recommended a multi-weight mineral oil for this period. I think it was Phillips, but I'm not sure. Steve Johnson RV-8 fuse ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Compton" Subject: RV-List: Oil on airplane belly > --> RV-List message posted by: "Randy Compton" > > Listers: > > I now have about 40 hours since a major overhaul of my Lyc O-320. I have > been consistently getting some oil on the belly just aft of / in line with > the engine breather line. This has been happening even while doing nothing > but straight-and-level cross country type flying. It's doesn't seem to be a > lot, but just enough to make a 6-inch diameter splotch and a few run-back > lines for a foot or so. The flight-times have all been in the 1 to 2 hour > range. > > Perhaps it could be due to over-servicing the oil quantity, but I am getting > this oil mess even when the quantity is showing 6 quarts. I did an oil > change yesterday and saw no oil leaks anywhere at all on the engine or > accessories. I've been told that a new/freshly overhauled engine should not > be blowing any oil if it is broken-in and serviced correctly, so I'm > beginning to wonder if I have a cylinder problem or something. I've also > heard that a glazed cylinder will cause the crankcase to pressurize > excessively and oil to blow out. > > What's puzzling is that I followed the break-in instructions exactly. I did > not "baby" the engine, and all the operating temps, etc. have been good. > I've been running the engine at 65% to 75% power on the x/c flights, varying > between the two at 10 to 15 minute intervals. > > Any insight here will be most appreciated. > > Thanks, > Randy Compton > RV-3 N84VF > Gulf Breeze, FL ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:12:13 AM PST US From: "John Starn" Subject: Re: RV-List: Under the cowl GPS antenna ?? --> RV-List message posted by: "John Starn" That's the thing surfers ride down under Mate. KABONG Do Not Archive > What's a wive anyway? ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:08:00 AM PST US From: "Dave von Linsowe" Subject: Re: RV-List: Paint Shops on East Coast --> RV-List message posted by: "Dave von Linsowe" Earlier this year I had got a few quotes in the $5,000-$6,000 and that was stripping off Imeron first. That was in the Michigan and Ohio area. The best deals were in Canada. There is one near Saut Ste Marie (KANJ) and Echo Bay in Canada that has done Oshkosh award winners that was in the $6,000 range. Dave RV-6 The need for speed--> > --> RV-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com > > List: > > I had my paint shop all lined up for the end of January and yesterday they > called me with a $2000 price increase. I politely declined !!! (well, maybe > not so politely !!) > > Anyone have good recommendations for shops on the east coast that are also > reasonable. I have had quotes of $7000-9000. I just don't believe it has to > be that expensive for a simple paint scheme. Thanks !! > > Len Leggette RV-8A > N901LL > Greensboro, N.C. > 44 hours !! ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:31:47 AM PST US From: "Randy Compton" Subject: Re: RV-List: Oil on airplane belly --> RV-List message posted by: "Randy Compton" As per the recommendation of ECI, I am using Phillips X/C 20W50 for the break-in. ECI says that this oil is good from break-in to TBO, and if you ever need cylinder work in the future you will not need to revert to mineral oil while the new cylinder breaks-in. For what its worth, my oil consumption at this point looks to be about 1 quart per every 5 to 6 hours. Thanks, RC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Johnson" Subject: Re: RV-List: Oil on airplane belly > --> RV-List message posted by: "Stephen Johnson" > > I assume you are running mineral oil for the break-in. There was a recent > article in AOPA Pilot about breaking in a fresh overhaul, and they > recommended a multi-weight mineral oil for this period. I think it was > Phillips, but I'm not sure. > > Steve Johnson > RV-8 fuse > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Randy Compton" > To: > Subject: RV-List: Oil on airplane belly > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Randy Compton" > > > > Listers: > > > > I now have about 40 hours since a major overhaul of my Lyc O-320. I have > > been consistently getting some oil on the belly just aft of / in line with > > the engine breather line. This has been happening even while doing > nothing > > but straight-and-level cross country type flying. It's doesn't seem to be > a > > lot, but just enough to make a 6-inch diameter splotch and a few run-back > > lines for a foot or so. The flight-times have all been in the 1 to 2 hour > > range. > > > > Perhaps it could be due to over-servicing the oil quantity, but I am > getting > > this oil mess even when the quantity is showing 6 quarts. I did an oil > > change yesterday and saw no oil leaks anywhere at all on the engine or > > accessories. I've been told that a new/freshly overhauled engine should > not > > be blowing any oil if it is broken-in and serviced correctly, so I'm > > beginning to wonder if I have a cylinder problem or something. I've also > > heard that a glazed cylinder will cause the crankcase to pressurize > > excessively and oil to blow out. > > > > What's puzzling is that I followed the break-in instructions exactly. I > did > > not "baby" the engine, and all the operating temps, etc. have been good. > > I've been running the engine at 65% to 75% power on the x/c flights, > varying > > between the two at 10 to 15 minute intervals. > > > > Any insight here will be most appreciated. > > > > Thanks, > > Randy Compton > > RV-3 N84VF > > Gulf Breeze, FL > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:55:44 AM PST US From: Michael McGee Subject: Re: RV-List: Oil on airplane belly --> RV-List message posted by: Michael McGee My O-320-E2G (150 hp) at 315 hrs uses a quart in 22-25 hours. It's been that way since I got it with 110 hrs. Best oil consumption of any airplane I've ever owned (also the first Lycoming). MGM At 12:28 12/31/2002 -0600, you wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Randy Compton" > >As per the recommendation of ECI, I am using Phillips X/C 20W50 for the >break-in. ECI says that this oil is good from break-in to TBO, and if you >ever need cylinder work in the future you will not need to revert to mineral >oil while the new cylinder breaks-in. > >For what its worth, my oil consumption at this point looks to be about 1 >quart per every 5 to 6 hours. > >Thanks, >RC > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Stephen Johnson" >To: >Subject: Re: RV-List: Oil on airplane belly > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Stephen Johnson" > > > > I assume you are running mineral oil for the break-in. There was a recent > > article in AOPA Pilot about breaking in a fresh overhaul, and they > > recommended a multi-weight mineral oil for this period. I think it was > > Phillips, but I'm not sure. > > > > Steve Johnson > > RV-8 fuse > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Randy Compton" > > To: > > Subject: RV-List: Oil on airplane belly > > > > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Randy Compton" > > > > > > Listers: > > > > > > I now have about 40 hours since a major overhaul of my Lyc O-320. I >have > > > been consistently getting some oil on the belly just aft of / in line >with > > > the engine breather line. This has been happening even while doing > > nothing > > > but straight-and-level cross country type flying. It's doesn't seem to >be > > a > > > lot, but just enough to make a 6-inch diameter splotch and a few >run-back > > > lines for a foot or so. The flight-times have all been in the 1 to 2 >hour > > > range. > > > > > > Perhaps it could be due to over-servicing the oil quantity, but I am > > getting > > > this oil mess even when the quantity is showing 6 quarts. I did an oil > > > change yesterday and saw no oil leaks anywhere at all on the engine or > > > accessories. I've been told that a new/freshly overhauled engine should > > not > > > be blowing any oil if it is broken-in and serviced correctly, so I'm > > > beginning to wonder if I have a cylinder problem or something. I've >also > > > heard that a glazed cylinder will cause the crankcase to pressurize > > > excessively and oil to blow out. > > > > > > What's puzzling is that I followed the break-in instructions exactly. I > > did > > > not "baby" the engine, and all the operating temps, etc. have been good. > > > I've been running the engine at 65% to 75% power on the x/c flights, > > varying > > > between the two at 10 to 15 minute intervals. > > > > > > Any insight here will be most appreciated. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Randy Compton > > > RV-3 N84VF > > > Gulf Breeze, FL Mike McGee, RV-4 N996RV, O320-E2G, Hillsboro, OR 13B in gestation mode ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 12:04:44 PM PST US From: "Dane Sheahen" Subject: RE: RV-List: Paint Shops on East Coast --> RV-List message posted by: "Dane Sheahen" I am in the just about ready to paint my RV8a and I have a quote of $4700. The plane is still naked (the skin has no paint, no polish, no wax) and I must take off all control surfaces and reinstall when completed. The paint shop is well known in the Midwest, does a lot of warbirds and is not to far from OSH. The only thing I don't like is they only use Emron which has a lack of colors. ( The shop is in Watertown Wi. KRYV ) Dane Sheahen RV8a N838RV (flying naked with no pants ) I had my paint shop all lined up for the end of January and yesterday they called me with a $2000 price increase. I politely declined !!! (well, maybe not so politely !!) Anyone have good recommendations for shops on the east coast that are also reasonable. I have had quotes of $7000-9000. I just don't believe it has to be that expensive for a simple paint scheme. Thanks !! Len Leggette RV-8A N901LL Greensboro, N.C. 44 hours !! ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 01:01:25 PM PST US From: "Elsa & Henry" Subject: Re: RV-List: Oil on airplane belly --> RV-List message posted by: "Elsa & Henry" Hi Randy, I'm surprised at your oil consumption! I have 40 hours on mine also and I've been using Phillips type "M" 20W50 up to now. I did my first oil change at 25 hours and I was down a 1/2 a quart at that time. It looks I am down about ~1/3 quart now. My engine was a first time majored 0-320 E2D which was upgraded to 160 HP by raising the compression to 8.5 by the overhauler. They did a 2.3 hour run-in before they shipped it to me, that was part of the "Performance Plus" package I purchased which included balancing rotating parts, fuel flow porting, etc. The dipstick is marked up to 6 quarts. The flying school mechs at my airport, told me that if you fill it up to the dipstick mark it will blow oil. The school has a fleet of Cessnas and Piper twins and they keep the oil level in all of them between 4 and 5 quarts. That's what I did and my oil temperatures have not been above 195 degrees. Wiped a small amount of oil on the belly at oil change time. At their recommendation, I did not do any taxi tests to keep low engine RPM to minimum. The only taxiing I did before 1st flight was from my hangar to the fuel pumps and that was done at 1800 RPM to condition the brakes --Dunno! maybe I'm lucky!? Cheers!!-----Happy New Year-----Henry Hore, C-GELS at Cornwall Regional, CYCC. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 01:46:54 PM PST US From: "Craig Warner" Subject: Re: RV-List: Paint Shops on East Coast --> RV-List message posted by: "Craig Warner" Call charlie Bell of Aircraft Refinishers of Western New York. 585-237-3790 I have seen a Beech he did that looked great. Tell him that the guy that does the paint seminar at the RV forum in upstate NY sent you. Reguards Craig Warner RV6A still workin ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: RV-List: Paint Shops on East Coast > --> RV-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com > > List: > > I had my paint shop all lined up for the end of January and yesterday they > called me with a $2000 price increase. I politely declined !!! (well, maybe > not so politely !!) > > Anyone have good recommendations for shops on the east coast that are also > reasonable. I have had quotes of $7000-9000. I just don't believe it has to > be that expensive for a simple paint scheme. Thanks !! > > Len Leggette RV-8A > N901LL > Greensboro, N.C. > 44 hours !! > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 01:53:14 PM PST US From: "Cy Galley" Subject: Re: RV-List: Paint Shops on East Coast --> RV-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" That is the shop that the EAA uses also. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Sheahen" Subject: RE: RV-List: Paint Shops on East Coast > --> RV-List message posted by: "Dane Sheahen" > > > I am in the just about ready to paint my RV8a and I have a quote of $4700. > The plane is still naked (the skin has no paint, no polish, no wax) and I > must take off all control surfaces and reinstall when completed. The paint > shop is well known in the Midwest, does a lot of warbirds and is not to far > from OSH. The only thing I don't like is they only use Emron which has a > lack of colors. ( The shop is in Watertown Wi. KRYV ) > > Dane Sheahen > RV8a N838RV (flying naked with no pants ) > > I had my paint shop all lined up for the end of January and yesterday they > called me with a $2000 price increase. I politely declined !!! (well, maybe > not so politely !!) > > Anyone have good recommendations for shops on the east coast that are also > reasonable. I have had quotes of $7000-9000. I just don't believe it has > to > be that expensive for a simple paint scheme. Thanks !! > > Len Leggette RV-8A > N901LL > Greensboro, N.C. > 44 hours !! > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 01:58:47 PM PST US From: "Jim Nolan" Subject: RV-List: Poping noise --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Nolan" When I first built my RV4, I had a noise similar to what you're talking about. It was the .016 firewall flexing, it was irritating to say the least. I found a fix for it though. I taxied through a field at RCR going to Karen's Restraint and ran my right wheel into a gopher hole. It spun the airplane around, cracked my wheel pant and put a crease in the .016 firewall. Didn't have the popping sound anymore though. There's got to be a better fix than mine. Jim Nolan N444JN ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 02:43:23 PM PST US Subject: RV-List: how to remove pop rivet? From: Jerry Howell --> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Howell greetings all, I have managed to incorrectly set a pop rivet! I failed to check to see if both the skin and spar that I was riveting were actually attached, and as a result, I riveted only the skin. Now there is a layer of skin/rivet head/spar - and i will have to remove a LOT of other rivets to get easy access to it. It seems very hard to drill. Anyone have any ideas? Jerry Howell jehowell@tampabay.rr.com RV-7A Empennage - almost finished ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 03:23:27 PM PST US From: Gert Subject: Re: RV-List: how to remove pop rivet? --> RV-List message posted by: Gert Jerry I've had good luck by knocking out the center out of the rivet and the drilling the head off. you don't have to wack hard but be persistent and the tail will eventually out of the rivet. Gert Jerry Howell wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Howell > > greetings all, > > I have managed to incorrectly set a pop rivet! I failed to check to > see if both the skin and spar that I was riveting were actually > attached, and as a result, I riveted only the skin. Now there is a > layer of skin/rivet head/spar - and i will have to remove a LOT of > other rivets to get easy access to it. It seems very hard to drill. > Anyone have any ideas? > > > Jerry Howell > jehowell@tampabay.rr.com > RV-7A > Empennage - almost finished > > > > > > > > -- is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 03:29:25 PM PST US From: "J. R. Dial" Subject: RE: RV-List: how to remove pop rivet? --> RV-List message posted by: "J. R. Dial" I just finished drilling out a few and they are a little hard but they will drill out. I don't know any other way of doing it. DO NOT ARCHIVE -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Howell Subject: RV-List: how to remove pop rivet? --> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Howell greetings all, I have managed to incorrectly set a pop rivet! I failed to check to see if both the skin and spar that I was riveting were actually attached, and as a result, I riveted only the skin. Now there is a layer of skin/rivet head/spar - and i will have to remove a LOT of other rivets to get easy access to it. It seems very hard to drill. Anyone have any ideas? Jerry Howell jehowell@tampabay.rr.com RV-7A Empennage - almost finished = ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 03:47:11 PM PST US From: Lonnie Woodman Subject: Re: RV-List: how to remove pop rivet? --> RV-List message posted by: Lonnie Woodman Drilling is the preferred method, but if you have to, use a dremmel. Get the smallest round tip, and try to take off all the head of the rivet. Push it on through. Jerry Howell wrote:--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Howell greetings all, I have managed to incorrectly set a pop rivet! I failed to check to see if both the skin and spar that I was riveting were actually attached, and as a result, I riveted only the skin. Now there is a layer of skin/rivet head/spar - and i will have to remove a LOT of other rivets to get easy access to it. It seems very hard to drill. Anyone have any ideas? Jerry Howell jehowell@tampabay.rr.com RV-7A Empennage - almost finished --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 04:46:55 PM PST US From: "C. Rabaut" Subject: Fw: RV-List: Paint Shops on East Coast --> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" My God Man... have you no shame? ----- Original Message ----- From: Dane Sheahen > > RV8a N838RV (flying naked with no pants ) do not archive ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 04:55:45 PM PST US From: "George McNutt" Subject: RE: RV-List: Oil on airplane belly --> RV-List message posted by: "George McNutt" --> RV-List message posted by: "Randy Compton" Listers: I now have about 40 hours since a major overhaul of my Lyc O-320. I have been consistently getting some oil on the belly just aft of / in line with the engine breather line. This has been happening even while doing nothing but straight-and-level cross country type flying. It's doesn't seem to be a lot, but just enough to make a 6-inch diameter splotch and a few run-back lines for a foot or so. The flight-times have all been in the 1 to 2 hour range. ------snip ------------ Any insight here will be most appreciated. Thanks, Randy Compton Hi Randy My 0-320 uses a quart in 30 hrs and I still get a bit on the belly, more like thin dirt than a puddle, the breather drips on the exhaust pipe a bit on shutdown. You didn't tell us how much oil you used in the first 40 hrs. There will always be some vapors out the breather that will condense and come out as liquid, and it just takes a few drops if it exits into turbulent air to make a mess. Make sure you have a small "whistle hole" or whatever its called a few inches up from the bottom of the breather, its intended to relieve pressure if the exit freezes over but may also relieve any suction at the outlet. Try repositioning the breather, there may be a vacuum at the breather exit. George McNutt, Langley B.C. 6A ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 06:52:10 PM PST US From: "Larry Bowen" Subject: RV-List: 2003 Calendar --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" Anyone received the Van's 2003 calendar yet? I paid for two years-worth last year, but no sign of the '03 yet ...... - Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com Do not archive ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 07:28:54 PM PST US From: "J. R. Dial" Subject: RE: RV-List: 2003 Calendar --> RV-List message posted by: "J. R. Dial" I got mine about month ago so you might need to check with them. DO NOT ARCHIVE -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Bowen Subject: RV-List: 2003 Calendar --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" Anyone received the Van's 2003 calendar yet? I paid for two years-worth last year, but no sign of the '03 yet ...... - Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com Do not archive = ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 07:31:25 PM PST US From: "Steve J Hurlbut" Subject: Re: RV-List: how to remove pop rivet? --> RV-List message posted by: "Steve J Hurlbut" Start with 3/32" bit. Drill out the centre part. You may have to twist and re-direct the bit to keep it in the centre. Drill 1/8" bit until the head pops off. Remove the head just like a regular rivet. Drill out the shank with 1/8" bit. Good luck Steve RV7A wiring ----- Original Message ----- From: "J. R. Dial" Subject: RE: RV-List: how to remove pop rivet? > --> RV-List message posted by: "J. R. Dial" > > > I just finished drilling out a few and they are a little hard > but they will drill out. I don't know any other way of doing it. > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Howell > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV-List: how to remove pop rivet? > > --> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Howell > > greetings all, > > I have managed to incorrectly set a pop rivet! I failed to check to > see if both the skin and spar that I was riveting were actually > attached, and as a result, I riveted only the skin. Now there is a > layer of skin/rivet head/spar - and i will have to remove a LOT of > other rivets to get easy access to it. It seems very hard to drill. > Anyone have any ideas? > > > Jerry Howell > jehowell@tampabay.rr.com > RV-7A > Empennage - almost finished > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 07:46:00 PM PST US From: "David Burton" Subject: Re: RV-List: 2003 Calendar --> RV-List message posted by: "David Burton" Got mine yesterday I think. I'm 100 miles north of Vans... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Bowen" Subject: RV-List: 2003 Calendar > --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" > > Anyone received the Van's 2003 calendar yet? I paid for two years-worth > last year, but no sign of the '03 yet ...... > > - > Larry Bowen > Larry@BowenAero.com > http://BowenAero.com > Do not archive > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 07:51:32 PM PST US From: "RV6 Flyer" Subject: Re: RV-List: 2003 Calendar --> RV-List message posted by: "RV6 Flyer" Larry: The 2003 calendar has been out several months now. I have had mine for over a month now. Gary A. Sobek "My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell, 1,231 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA http://SoCAL_WVAF.rvproject.com ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Larry Bowen" Subject: RV-List: 2003 Calendar --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" Anyone received the Van's 2003 calendar yet? I paid for two years-worth last year, but no sign of the '03 yet ...... - Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com Do not archive The new MSN 8 is here: Try it free* for 2 months ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 08:03:43 PM PST US From: WILLMINCEY@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Paint Shops on East Coast --> RV-List message posted by: WILLMINCEY@aol.com You might like to checkout Blue Sky Aviation, Loris SC. (Near Myrtle Beach) He is currently painting an RV-8. They got the contract last year for 6-7 Civil Air Patrol and did a super job on all of them. Much better than the five other paint shops that previously flunked. All looked good initially but after a few flights, paint was peeling from all except the Loris contractor. You will have to fit into their schedule but the wait would be worth it. Head honcho is Brian and a real nitpicker, thats good. Will Mincey RV-3 81TD ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 08:13:02 PM PST US From: "Tom & Cathy Ervin" Subject: Re: RV-List: 2003 Calendar --> RV-List message posted by: "Tom & Cathy Ervin" Larry, I got my "Van's 2003 Calender" about a month ago. Do Not Archive Tom in Ohio ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Bowen" Subject: RV-List: 2003 Calendar > --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" > > Anyone received the Van's 2003 calendar yet? I paid for two years-worth > last year, but no sign of the '03 yet ...... > > - > Larry Bowen > Larry@BowenAero.com > http://BowenAero.com > Do not archive > > ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 09:28:59 PM PST US From: "Larry Bowen" Subject: RE: RV-List: 2003 Calendar --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" Hmm. Maybe I'm thinking of the Rvator subscription.... Thanks. - Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom > & Cathy Ervin > Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 11:09 PM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV-List: 2003 Calendar > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Tom & Cathy Ervin" > --> > > Larry, I got my "Van's 2003 Calender" about a month ago. > Do Not Archive > Tom in Ohio > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Larry Bowen" > To: > Subject: RV-List: 2003 Calendar > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" > > > > Anyone received the Van's 2003 calendar yet? I paid for two > > years-worth last year, but no sign of the '03 yet ...... > > > > - > > Larry Bowen > > Larry@BowenAero.com > > http://BowenAero.com > > Do not archive