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1. 12:26 AM - Re: Can Canadians can save money on shipments? (Rob Prior)
2. 02:30 AM - Re: Engine Primer Solenoid - Push to Prime Button (Francis Malczynski)
3. 04:16 AM - Re: Can Canadians can save money on shipments? (Kevin Horton)
4. 04:23 AM - Re: Can Canadians can save money on shipments? (Steve J Hurlbut)
5. 06:40 AM - F-1 accident preliminary report (James & Shalise Cash)
6. 07:30 AM - Re:Anywhere Map GPS - OLEG (Oldsfolks@aol.com)
7. 07:31 AM - Re: F-1 accident preliminary report (Scott Brumbelow)
8. 07:35 AM - Re: Big RV flyin at Lakeland SnF site this weekend (Pat Hatch)
9. 07:41 AM - Re: Flap hinge measurement & plans (Tracy Crook)
10. 08:15 AM - reading too much (Frazier, Vincent A)
11. 08:23 AM - titanium gear (Frazier, Vincent A)
12. 08:28 AM - Re: Re: Round Headlamps or Taxi / landing lights (Charles Kuss)
13. 08:51 AM - fuel vent exit fittings...anything cleaner? (Dan Checkoway)
14. 09:33 AM - Re: fuel vent exit fittings...anything cleaner? (Neil McLeod)
15. 09:48 AM - Re: Flap/Aileron gap (HCRV6@aol.com)
16. 10:15 AM - Re: fuel vent exit fittings...anything cleaner? (mstewart@qa.butler.com)
17. 10:21 AM - Re: fuel vent exit fittings...anything cleaner? (Larry Bowen)
18. 10:33 AM - Seat heat and Air Conditioning (Norman)
19. 10:40 AM - Re: reading too much (Tom Gummo)
20. 10:43 AM - Re: Big RV flyin at Lakeland SnF site this weekend (WALTER KERR)
21. 10:44 AM - Re: fuel vent exit fittings...anything cleaner? (Norman)
22. 10:51 AM - Re: fuel vent exit fittings...anything cleaner? (Ken Harrill)
23. 11:40 AM - AN5812 12V pitot tube for sale (Marcus)
24. 11:49 AM - Re: fuel vent exit fittings...anything cleaner? (David Carter)
25. 11:52 AM - Re: fuel vent exit fittings...anything cleaner? (WALTER KERR)
26. 12:12 PM - Re: fuel vent exit fittings...anything cleaner? (SportAV8R@aol.com)
27. 02:39 PM - Non-RV-related: GPS III Pilot problems (Van Artsdalen, Scott)
28. 03:10 PM - Re: Non-RV-related: GPS III Pilot problems (Scott Brumbelow)
29. 03:10 PM - Re: Non-RV-related: GPS III Pilot problems (RV_8 Pilot)
30. 03:24 PM - Re: fuel vent exit fittings...anything cleaner? (David Carter)
31. 03:34 PM - Re: Non-RV-related: GPS III Pilot problems (Rick Jory)
32. 04:01 PM - Re: Non-RV-related: GPS III Pilot problems (Michel)
33. 04:43 PM - Re: reading too much (Chris)
34. 05:02 PM - Re: Non-RV-related: GPS III Pilot problems (Van Artsdalen, Scott)
35. 05:06 PM - Fuel selector valve attach (Jeff Point)
36. 05:06 PM - Re: Non-RV-related: GPS III Pilot problems (Roger Embree)
37. 06:08 PM - Re: reading too much (Stein Bruch)
38. 06:11 PM - Re: fuel vent exit fittings...anything cleaner? (John Starn)
39. 07:04 PM - Re: Fuel selector valve attach (Sam Buchanan)
40. 07:28 PM - new stuff / old stuff (Aircraft Technical Book Company)
41. 07:52 PM - Re: Vent Line (David Carter)
42. 08:46 PM - Re: fuel vent exit fittings...anything cleaner? (LeastDrag93066@aol.com)
43. 09:23 PM - Re: fuel vent exit fittings...anything cleaner? (JDaniel343@aol.com)
44. 09:48 PM - Re: fuel vent exit fittings...anything cleaner? (Jerry Springer)
45. 10:07 PM - Re: fuel vent exit fittings...anything cleaner? (Ed Holyoke)
46. 11:40 PM - Re: Non-RV-related: GPS III Pilot problems (Rob Prior)
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| Subject: | Re: Big RV flyin at Lakeland SnF site this weekend |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Pat Hatch" <pat_hatch@msn.com>
Sorry, Bernie, won't be able to make it this time--next one for sure. I am
right in the middle of painting my airplane. For a sneak preview check out
my web site at:
http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-pathatch
Should be done in a couple of weeks hopefully.
do not archive
Pat Hatch
RV-4, N17PH, 700 hrs
O-320, Hartzell C/S
RV-6, N44PH, 40 hrs
O-360, Hartzell C/S
Vero Beach, FL
----- Original Message -----
From: "WALTER KERR" <kerrjb@msn.com>
Subject: RV-List: Big RV flyin at Lakeland SnF site this weekend
> --> RV-List message posted by: "WALTER KERR" <kerrjb@msn.com>
>
> Everything is on go for a good low key RV flyin at the SnF site this
Friday and Saturday.
>
> Some folks are planning on meeting at Tony's on the N side of the airport
for lunch and then moving over to the site. We will be parking RV's between
the FAA building and the vendor buildings and non RV's in front of the
vendor buildings.
>
> Friday evening ,the museum has a featured speaker talking about making the
book; USA from 500 feet. There is a charge if you wish to do this.
>
> We will order pizza and someone will make a beer run to the supermarket
for those so inclined.
>
> There will be a campfire and lots of hangar stories. Camping is free and
there will be a shower house with hot water.
>
> Breakfast and lunch on Saturday will be provided by a local EAA Chapter.
>
> There will be 3 forums for those interested on Sat morning. Jan Bussel, a
CFII with a 6A, will be doing a forum on landing your RV. This will be an
expansion on what Van has started in the RVator. Mike Stewart will be doing
a forum on formation flying. Bernie Kerr will be talking about building a
new prepunch kit compared to his 1997 6A prepunch kit. He will also talk
about his experience mounting a rotary in his new 9A.
>
> Please register (free) as there are door prizes to be given away at the
forums. There is some free 100LL provided by the local FBO and SnF is
providing some gifts from their shop.
>
> You can also see the grand coming out of several really neat new RV's, Dr
Jim Norman plans on being there and I assume we will see Pat Hatch's new 6A.
Both of these are really loaded and well done RV's. People are always
raising the bar on new airplanes :>)
>
> Do not archive
> Bernie Kerr
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Flap hinge measurement & plans |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tracy Crook" <lors01@msn.com>
I agree that the regular kit plans and drawings are quite good. Some of my
previous comments were apparently taken to mean that they were not. Dana's
experience is a perfect example of what I really meant. The plans and
drawings are good enough to lead one into thinking that they are infallible,
i.e., a 'bible'. Then you run into one of the errors or omisions and you
go nuts trying to figure out where you went wrong. It saves a lot of time
if you know that the plans are not perfect and it is OK to trust your own
judgement (or call Van's help desk).
I'm too embarased to say how many hours I spent figuring out that the (RV-8)
Left & Right elevator trim servo mounting brackets were labeled backwards
(left was right......)
Now as to those QB fuselage instructions (Start at the back and work
forward), surely Van's could do a little more 'hand holding' :-)
Tracy Crook
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
>
> Bobby, you are right. I ended up cutting mine to match the flap spar and
> they turned out to be 56.25. This left sufficient room for rivet spacing
on
> both sides.
>
> I looked at drawing 9, 8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1,10,11,12,13,14........well you get
> the drift. Nowhere on mine does it say anything about that 1/4". Anyway
> these plans are like the bible compared to cliff notes in comparison to
the
> first airplane I built. Trust me gang, be happy with these plans:-) Hard
> to do sometimes though...........
>
>
> Dana Overall
> Richmond, KY
> http://rvflying.tripod.com
>
>
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| Subject: | reading too much |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Frazier, Vincent A" <VFrazier@usi.edu>
SNIP And yes I know I should stop reading and start building. So I am trying to
learn as much as I can by reading these lists so hopefully when I do start building
it will be easier from all I have learned on these lists. SNIP
With apologies in advance for this analogy, but it is soo true....
When I was a teenager I read everything I could about GIRLS and SEX, but nothing
I read prepared me for the real deal! So quit reading and start building!
A dirty old man in Indiana ;-)
DO NOT ARCHIVE even though it is true and useful information for all you fence
sitters!
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Frazier, Vincent A" <VFrazier@usi.edu>
SNIP I would like to see a titanium gear set not because it is stronger because
I am not so sure
it would be but becasue of the damping properties of that material. SNIP
Before anyone gets all excited here, the Rockets have their fair share of sagging
gear, too stiff gear, gear shimmy, etc... The gear shimmy cracks your engine
mounts. Fun, fun, fun. Titanium is not magic, but it is expensive. Ask a
Rocket pilot. They'll have stories. I guarantee it.
I've got an extra set of Rocket legs for sale, $1200 which is $500 off what I paid.
Who wants 'em? Don't be scared... after all, they're TITANIUM! Dum da
da da (trumpet sounds).
Vince
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Round Headlamps or Taxi / landing lights |
--> RV-List message posted by: Charles Kuss <chaskuss@yahoo.com>
Phil,
Thanks for the informative post. Do you have any part
number(s) for the HID PAR-36 replacement lamps?
Charlie Kuss
--- P M Condon <pcondon@mitre.org> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: P M Condon
> <pcondon@mitre.org>
>
> A short study on round headlamps or lights and
> replacements.
>
> There are three main sizes for the round headlamps
> in the USA. 7", 5.74
> and 4 inch or PAR-36 size are the diameters of the
> common round
> headlamps. My RV, as most takes the smaller PAR-36
> sized round
> headlamps.
>
> The traditional, standard aviation PAR-36, 4 inch
> round headlamp
> (Cessna, Piper, ect.) is the GE-4509, rated for 25
> operational hours and
> has a low candle power output. This is the headlamp
> that most FBO's
> will have in stock, and, as I stated is the
> "traditional" aviation
> headlamp. The GE-4537 is the 5.75 inch diameter
> aviation variant.
>
> Next in performance is the halogen headlamp that is
> of the same
> form-fit-factor-size as the aviation GE-4509 -
> meaning you can replace
> this aviation headlamp with a halogen H-7604 in our
> experimentals. The
> H-7604 is rated at 50 watts and 100,000CP. Or, for
> more lumens of light
> you can go with the Q-4509 Halogen 100 watt,
> 140,000CP, PAR-36, 100 hr
> rated life headlamp.
>
> Lastly, you could go with HID that has 340,000CP and
> only consume 35
> watts of power. This route will require a conversion
> assembly that the
> folks at RMD said takes only seconds to install. The
> price on this HID
> option is about 500 dollars from RMD. The HIDS are
> the way to go from a
> pure performance and amount of light and low power
> requirement.
> However,when I consider cost and performance, the
> Halogen replacement is
> the way I will go. Besides, I don't need permission
> to spend 9
> dollars...I need wifely permission (and concessions)
> to spend the 500
> dollars.
>
> Bottom line (for me) I will be converting from the
> PAR-36 sized, GE-4595
> traditional headlamp to a halogen Q-4509. I will be
> increasing my CP
> output by a 50% factor while spending 9 dollars per
> headlamp assembly.
> In this case there will be a slight power
> requirement increase; however
> I sized my wire and breakers for this upgrade.
>
>
>
> Contributions
> any other
> Forums.
>
> latest messages.
> List members.
>
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| Subject: | fuel vent exit fittings...anything cleaner? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
RV-7 tailwheel tip-up...the plans call for using a bulkhead union fitting
where the fuel vent lines exit the floor. They call out slicing the forward
face at an angle and covering the opening with a piece of screen. I assume
it was the same on earlier models.
Is there a more elegant solution, i.e. something you can buy off the shelf?
The thought of having to file off the threads and slice this thing, then
basically gluing on a screen sounds kludgy, although yeah, it works and it's
cheap. But what I'm after is a pre-made exit fitting that would look
prettier out of the box.
Thanks in advance,
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (fuselage)
http://www.rvproject.com
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| Subject: | Re: fuel vent exit fittings...anything cleaner? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Neil McLeod" <bedrock@theriver.com>
I agree there should be a cleaner solution although I built mine per plan.
What I am more concerned about is the probabilty that these are going to ice
up. My 182 has the vent behind the strut for this reason. I don't plan to
fly in any ice or even IFR but if I ever have an inavdvertant encounter I
would be a bummer to be brought down by this. Anybody else thought about or
done anything about this?
Neil
-7 slider (wiring)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
Subject: RV-List: fuel vent exit fittings...anything cleaner?
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
>
> RV-7 tailwheel tip-up...the plans call for using a bulkhead union fitting
> where the fuel vent lines exit the floor. They call out slicing the
forward
> face at an angle and covering the opening with a piece of screen. I
assume
> it was the same on earlier models.
>
> Is there a more elegant solution, i.e. something you can buy off the
shelf?
> The thought of having to file off the threads and slice this thing, then
> basically gluing on a screen sounds kludgy, although yeah, it works and
it's
> cheap. But what I'm after is a pre-made exit fitting that would look
> prettier out of the box.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> )_( Dan
> RV-7 N714D (fuselage)
> http://www.rvproject.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Flap/Aileron gap |
--> RV-List message posted by: HCRV6@aol.com
Dana, I don't know what you are building and I don't have my plans handy but
I recall that somewhere, either in the plans or the instruction manual, the
aileron to flap gap for RV-6/76A is specified to be a minimum of 1/4th inch.
Harry Crosby
Pleasanton, California
RV-6, starting firewall forward
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| Subject: | fuel vent exit fittings...anything cleaner? |
--> RV-List message posted by: mstewart@qa.butler.com
On my NEXT plane....
Im running the vent out some place other than the place where it stinks up
the cockpit all the time.
To answer your question, yes it was done on earlier models.
You could just run the line out the bottom through a grommet. And be done
with it.
There is probably some logic to running it six feet away, into the fuse, up
the side wall, and down into a place hard to get to, but Ill be damned if I
know what it is.
I agree, the chewed up bulkhead fitting looks and is cheesey.
Mike Stewart
6A flying
-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Checkoway [mailto:dan@rvproject.com]
Subject: RV-List: fuel vent exit fittings...anything cleaner?
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
RV-7 tailwheel tip-up...the plans call for using a bulkhead union fitting
where the fuel vent lines exit the floor. They call out slicing the forward
face at an angle and covering the opening with a piece of screen. I assume
it was the same on earlier models.
Is there a more elegant solution, i.e. something you can buy off the shelf?
The thought of having to file off the threads and slice this thing, then
basically gluing on a screen sounds kludgy, although yeah, it works and it's
cheap. But what I'm after is a pre-made exit fitting that would look
prettier out of the box.
Thanks in advance,
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (fuselage)
http://www.rvproject.com
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| Subject: | Re: fuel vent exit fittings...anything cleaner? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
I bought two tip-up pitot covers from Wicks for mine. The kind that blow
back in the slip-stream, or in this case the prop wash. Should keep the
mud daubers out....
--
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
2003: The Year of Flight!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV-List: fuel vent exit fittings...anything cleaner?
>
>
>> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
>>
>> RV-7 tailwheel tip-up...the plans call for using a bulkhead union
>> fitting where the fuel vent lines exit the floor. They call out
>> slicing the
> forward
>> face at an angle and covering the opening with a piece of screen. I
> assume
>> it was the same on earlier models.
>>
>> Is there a more elegant solution, i.e. something you can buy off the
> shelf?
>> The thought of having to file off the threads and slice this thing,
>> then basically gluing on a screen sounds kludgy, although yeah, it
>> works and
> it's
>> cheap. But what I'm after is a pre-made exit fitting that would look
>> prettier out of the box.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> )_( Dan
>> RV-7 N714D (fuselage)
>> http://www.rvproject.com
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Seat heat and Air Conditioning |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Norman" <nhunger@sprint.ca>
Too hot in your airplane? For a short time last year I had a 2002 Lincoln Navigator
and I noticed that the front seats had electric heat and air conditioning.
I could feel small plastic piping just under the leather that must have been
the air conditioning.
What is the world coming too? I doubt the wreckers will be seeing these vehicles
in any great numbers for awhile but I thought I would pass it on anyway. A friend
got his new 2003 Eddie Bauer Ford Expedition recently and it had the same
seats.
Norman Hunger
RV6A Delta BC
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| Subject: | Re: reading too much |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tom Gummo" <t.gummo@verizon.net>
Or think about it as ON THE JOB TRAINING.
Read while you work. :-)
Get pounding those rivets.
Tom Gummo
Apple Valley, CA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Frazier, Vincent A" <VFrazier@usi.edu>
Subject: RV-List: reading too much
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Frazier, Vincent A" <VFrazier@usi.edu>
>
> SNIP And yes I know I should stop reading and start building. So I am
trying to learn as much as I can by reading these lists so hopefully when I
do start building it will be easier from all I have learned on these lists.
SNIP
>
> With apologies in advance for this analogy, but it is soo true....
>
> When I was a teenager I read everything I could about GIRLS and SEX, but
nothing I read prepared me for the real deal! So quit reading and start
building!
>
> A dirty old man in Indiana ;-)
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE even though it is true and useful information for all you
fence sitters!
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Big RV flyin at Lakeland SnF site this weekend |
--> RV-List message posted by: "WALTER KERR" <kerrjb@msn.com>
Your signature indicates there is another RV in the barn, we would be happy
to have you in the 4 :>)
Bernie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pat Hatch" <pat_hatch@msn.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Big RV flyin at Lakeland SnF site this weekend
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Pat Hatch" <pat_hatch@msn.com>
>
> Sorry, Bernie, won't be able to make it this time--next one for sure. I
am
> right in the middle of painting my airplane. For a sneak preview check
out
> my web site at:
>
> http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-pathatch
>
> Should be done in a couple of weeks hopefully.
>
> do not archive
>
> Pat Hatch
> RV-4, N17PH, 700 hrs
> O-320, Hartzell C/S
> RV-6, N44PH, 40 hrs
> O-360, Hartzell C/S
> Vero Beach, FL
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "WALTER KERR" <kerrjb@msn.com>
> To: "rv-list" <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV-List: Big RV flyin at Lakeland SnF site this weekend
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "WALTER KERR" <kerrjb@msn.com>
> >
> > Everything is on go for a good low key RV flyin at the SnF site this
> Friday and Saturday.
> >
> > Some folks are planning on meeting at Tony's on the N side of the
airport
> for lunch and then moving over to the site. We will be parking RV's
between
> the FAA building and the vendor buildings and non RV's in front of the
> vendor buildings.
> >
> > Friday evening ,the museum has a featured speaker talking about making
the
> book; USA from 500 feet. There is a charge if you wish to do this.
> >
> > We will order pizza and someone will make a beer run to the supermarket
> for those so inclined.
> >
> > There will be a campfire and lots of hangar stories. Camping is free and
> there will be a shower house with hot water.
> >
> > Breakfast and lunch on Saturday will be provided by a local EAA Chapter.
> >
> > There will be 3 forums for those interested on Sat morning. Jan Bussel,
a
> CFII with a 6A, will be doing a forum on landing your RV. This will be an
> expansion on what Van has started in the RVator. Mike Stewart will be
doing
> a forum on formation flying. Bernie Kerr will be talking about building a
> new prepunch kit compared to his 1997 6A prepunch kit. He will also talk
> about his experience mounting a rotary in his new 9A.
> >
> > Please register (free) as there are door prizes to be given away at the
> forums. There is some free 100LL provided by the local FBO and SnF is
> providing some gifts from their shop.
> >
> > You can also see the grand coming out of several really neat new RV's,
Dr
> Jim Norman plans on being there and I assume we will see Pat Hatch's new
6A.
> Both of these are really loaded and well done RV's. People are always
> raising the bar on new airplanes :>)
> >
> > Do not archive
> > Bernie Kerr
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: fuel vent exit fittings...anything cleaner? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Norman" <nhunger@sprint.ca>
> What I am more concerned about is the probabilty that these are going to
ice
> up. My 182 has the vent behind the strut for this reason. I don't plan to
> fly in any ice or even IFR but if I ever have an inavdvertant encounter I
> would be a bummer to be brought down by this. Anybody else thought about
or
> done anything about this?
Yup, I'm building a small fairing in front of both vuel tank vents. If any
ice or snow wants to cling to the airframe it will hopefully leave the vent
opening alone.
Norman Hunger
RV6A Delta BC
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| Subject: | fuel vent exit fittings...anything cleaner? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Ken Harrill <KHarrill@OSA.STATE.SC.US>
Dan,
I used a 90 degree bulkhead fitting. I sawed off the threaded part of the
90 degree elbow and polished it. Install it so that the elbow faces
forward. You can also epoxy a stainless screen on the front covered by a
stainless washer. Looks much more finished.
Ken Harrill
RV-6, 140 hours
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
RV-7 tailwheel tip-up...the plans call for using a bulkhead union fitting
where the fuel vent lines exit the floor. They call out slicing the forward
face at an angle and covering the opening with a piece of screen. I assume
it was the same on earlier models.
Is there a more elegant solution, i.e. something you can buy off the shelf?
The thought of having to file off the threads and slice this thing, then
basically gluing on a screen sounds kludgy, although yeah, it works and it's
cheap. But what I'm after is a pre-made exit fitting that would look
prettier out of the box.
Thanks in advance,
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (fuselage)
http://www.rvproject.com
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| Subject: | AN5812 12V pitot tube for sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Marcus" <marcustuck@cwcom.net>
I have decided to fit a heated pitot static tube to my RV8 therefore the
heated pitot tube I already have is for sale.
AN5812 12V, it is new and unused, retail price over 200 (US$ 300), yours
for 180 (US$ 280)ono. Aircraft spruce do a very nice chrome conversion kit
to fit these tubes to RV's, which I have had approval for from the PFA.
marcustuck@cwcom.net
Marcus Tuck
RV8
(In the UK)
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| Subject: | Re: fuel vent exit fittings...anything cleaner? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "David Carter" <dcarter@datarecall.net>
If these vents face forward, I don't suppose flying in warm (not even close
to freezing) rain would never force rain water uphill throught the cockpit
loop and out into the fuel tank. If the tank is sealed, except for the
vent, there could be NO airflow into the vent line, right?
David Carter
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From: "Ken Harrill" <KHarrill@osa.state.sc.us>
Subject: RE: RV-List: fuel vent exit fittings...anything cleaner?
> --> RV-List message posted by: Ken Harrill <KHarrill@OSA.STATE.SC.US>
>
> Dan,
>
> I used a 90 degree bulkhead fitting. I sawed off the threaded part of the
> 90 degree elbow and polished it. Install it so that the elbow faces
> forward. You can also epoxy a stainless screen on the front covered by a
> stainless washer. Looks much more finished.
>
> Ken Harrill
> RV-6, 140 hours
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
>
> RV-7 tailwheel tip-up...the plans call for using a bulkhead union fitting
> where the fuel vent lines exit the floor. They call out slicing the
forward
> face at an angle and covering the opening with a piece of screen. I
assume
> it was the same on earlier models.
>
> Is there a more elegant solution, i.e. something you can buy off the
shelf?
> The thought of having to file off the threads and slice this thing, then
> basically gluing on a screen sounds kludgy, although yeah, it works and
it's
> cheap. But what I'm after is a pre-made exit fitting that would look
> prettier out of the box.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> )_( Dan
> RV-7 N714D (fuselage)
> http://www.rvproject.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: fuel vent exit fittings...anything cleaner? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "WALTER KERR" <kerrjb@msn.com>
OK you guys! Van says don't screw with the fuel system :>)
The reason that the vent runs up high in the cabin before exiting is to keep
your juice in the tanks instead of on the ground. If you happen to be parked
with full tanks on an incline with one wing low. Something about liquids and
gravity?
The ugly fitting under the fuselage certainly stinks up the cockpit after
topping off and climbing out on a warm day. Kinda gets your attention until
you know where it's coming from. I've heard of an instance where a builder
built a nice looking ram probe, but it stuck out into the airstream to get
better ram pressure to keep the stink out. It also is colder out there out
of the nacelle boundary layer air and he promptly froze them up in some very
light icing conditions and it got quiet in the cockpit until a lower
altitude was reached and they opened. Needless to say he went back to the
ugly system!!
Now after saying all this, I am adding tankage to my 9A. I am doing my level
best to make the stock system stock but with some extra capacity in the
outboard three leading edge bays of both wings.
Hope to see a good turn out at Lakeland this weekend. The weather appears to
not be anything significant in the long term forcast.
Bernie Kerr
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| Subject: | Re: fuel vent exit fittings...anything cleaner? |
--> RV-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com
We must assume that about eight gallons of air per hour is being sucked in,
to replace the fuel...
> If the tank is sealed, except for the
> vent, there could be NO airflow into the vent line, right?
>
> David
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| Subject: | Non-RV-related: GPS III Pilot problems |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen, Scott" <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
Not specifically RV related but I'm hoping someone out there can help me.
I'm having a problem with my Garmin GPS III Pilot: when I have the
backlighting turned on, I begin to lose signal strength. If I turn BLing up
to full intensity, I completely lose my satellite locks, have to power down
the unit to reaquire. The unit will not acquire any sats if BLing is
turned on. Is anyone else who uses these units experiencing this problem?
--
Scott VanArtsdalen
Network Manager
Union Safe Deposit Bank
209-946-5116
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there can help me. I'm having a
problem with my Garmin GPS III Pilot: when I have the
backlighting turned on, I begin to lose signal strength. <span
style'mso-spacerun:yes'>If I turn BLing up
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| Subject: | Re: Non-RV-related: GPS III Pilot problems |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Brumbelow <csbrumbelow@fedex.com>
I have this unit, and have not had these problems. It sounds like a battery/power
problem to me...
"Van Artsdalen, Scott" wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen, Scott" <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
>
> Not specifically RV related but I'm hoping someone out there can help me.
> I'm having a problem with my Garmin GPS III Pilot: when I have the
> backlighting turned on, I begin to lose signal strength. If I turn BLing up
> to full intensity, I completely lose my satellite locks, have to power down
> the unit to reaquire. The unit will not acquire any sats if BLing is
> turned on. Is anyone else who uses these units experiencing this problem?
>
> --
> Scott VanArtsdalen
> Network Manager
> Union Safe Deposit Bank
> 209-946-5116
>
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> <span style'font-size:10.0pt;
> font-family:Arial'>Not specifically RV related but I'm hoping someone out
> there can help me. I'm having a
> problem with my Garmin GPS III Pilot: when I have the
> backlighting turned on, I begin to lose signal strength. <span
> style'mso-spacerun:yes'>If I turn BLing up
> to full intensity, I completely lose my satellite locks,
> have to power down the unit to reaquire.<span
> style'mso-spacerun:yes'> The unit will not acquire any <span
> classSpellE>sats if BLing is turned on.<span
> style'mso-spacerun:yes'> Is anyone else who uses these units
> experiencing this problem?<o:p></o:p>
>
> <span style'font-size:10.0pt;
> font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p>
>
> <span style'font-size:10.0pt;
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> yes'><o:p></o:p>
>
> <span
> style'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'>Scott
> VanArtsdalen<o:p></o:p>
>
> <span style'font-size:
> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:gray;mso-no-proof:yes'>Network Manager<span
> style'mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p></o:p>
>
> <span style'font-size:
> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:gray;mso-no-proof:yes'>Union Safe Deposit Bank<span
> style'mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p></o:p>
>
> <span style'font-size:
> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:gray;mso-no-proof:yes'>209-946-5116<o:p></o:p>
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| Subject: | Re: Non-RV-related: GPS III Pilot problems |
--> RV-List message posted by: "RV_8 Pilot" <rv_8pilot@hotmail.com>
Sorry, I haven't had exactly the same problem, but I do have a couple of
things that may help you with yours. It sounds like a voltage regulation
problem possibly. I'm not electron whiz, but I believe the antenna on gps
require power to function. The drain or load from the lit display may be
causing reception problems if the voltage is dropping. Just a WAG.
I did send my GPS III in to Garmin for a new backlight and software update.
Don't worry - if you decide to send it in, you'll get very prompt service
and what I thought was a reasonably priced bill from Garmin.
Good luck.
Bryan Jones -8
Pearland, Texas
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| Subject: | Re: fuel vent exit fittings...anything cleaner? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "David Carter" <dcarter@datarecall.net>
Good point. 8 gal/hr is 1024 fl oz/60min = 17 fl oz/min or 0.28 fl oz/sec.
1/3 fl oz/ sec is a definite flow, but wonder if gravity will keep the rain
from being forced uphill at that low flow. If I want to find out I can put
a little/short "down and back up loop" in the loop inside cockpit near the
top and put a drain valve so I could fly through rain, then open the valve
and actually see if any water was trapped there (like a p trap under a
sink). Something like one really should have in their pitot and static
lines, though those don't so much fill with "ram water" as with condensation
over a long period of time.
David
----- Original Message -----
From: <SportAV8R@aol.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: fuel vent exit fittings...anything cleaner?
> --> RV-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com
>
> We must assume that about eight gallons of air per hour is being sucked
in,
> to replace the fuel...
>
> > If the tank is sealed, except for the
> > vent, there could be NO airflow into the vent line, right?
> >
> > David
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Non-RV-related: GPS III Pilot problems |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Rick Jory" <rickjory@msn.com>
I'll add my two cents, but not re: the GPS III problem. I recently acquired
the new 196. Wow. What a great toy. One thing it does nicely is show your
altitude (GPS based), which you can compare to your barometric instrument.
Of course, the Garmin shows it to the nearest foot!! Great device, easy to
read, easy to maneuver around its various menus, etc. I'm fabricating a
bracket for my backseater (8A) so that this will be their primary
distraction. When there is no back-seater, I bought the optional "bean bag"
stand so that I could set this on my glare shield and use it as a second nav
tool.
Rick Jory RV8A
----- Original Message -----
From: RV_8 Pilot <rv_8pilot@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Non-RV-related: GPS III Pilot problems
> --> RV-List message posted by: "RV_8 Pilot" <rv_8pilot@hotmail.com>
>
> Sorry, I haven't had exactly the same problem, but I do have a couple of
> things that may help you with yours. It sounds like a voltage regulation
> problem possibly. I'm not electron whiz, but I believe the antenna on gps
> require power to function. The drain or load from the lit display may be
> causing reception problems if the voltage is dropping. Just a WAG.
>
> I did send my GPS III in to Garmin for a new backlight and software
update.
> Don't worry - if you decide to send it in, you'll get very prompt service
> and what I thought was a reasonably priced bill from Garmin.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Bryan Jones -8
> Pearland, Texas
>
>
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| Subject: | Non-RV-related: GPS III Pilot problems |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Michel" <rv8ter@rogers.com>
Interesting! I had exactly the same problem a couple of years ago. I
took off at dusk with my RV3, on the way I lost the GPS signal. I
figured that's great at night is the best time to lose the GPS signal.
It took a couple of other times before I discovered it was when I
brought the light intensity up that the signal disappeared. I completed
the trip with a flashlight on the GPS.
Contacted Garmin and they needed the unit to repair some software issue.
As was indicated turnaround was very good, but this is where you notice
how dependent you become of those gadgets.
Michel
81117 ...40 hrs
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Van Artsdalen,
Scott
Subject: RV-List: Non-RV-related: GPS III Pilot problems
--> RV-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen, Scott"
<svanarts@unionsafe.com>
Not specifically RV related but I'm hoping someone out there can help
me.
I'm having a problem with my Garmin GPS III Pilot: when I have the
backlighting turned on, I begin to lose signal strength. If I turn
BLing up
to full intensity, I completely lose my satellite locks, have to power
down
the unit to reaquire. The unit will not acquire any sats if BLing is
turned on. Is anyone else who uses these units experiencing this
problem?
--
Scott VanArtsdalen
Network Manager
Union Safe Deposit Bank
209-946-5116
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<span style'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Not specifically RV related but I'm hoping someone
out
there can help me. I'm having a
problem with my Garmin GPS III Pilot: when I have the
backlighting turned on, I begin to lose signal strength. <span
style'mso-spacerun:yes'>If I turn BLing up
to full intensity, I completely lose my satellite locks,
have to power down the unit to reaquire.<span
style'mso-spacerun:yes'> The unit will not acquire any <span
classSpellE>sats if BLing is turned on.<span
style'mso-spacerun:yes'> Is anyone else who uses these units
experiencing this problem?<o:p></o:p>
<span style'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p>
<span style'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;mso-no-proof:yes'>--<span style'mso-no-proof:
yes'><o:p></o:p>
<span
style'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'>Sc
ott
VanArtsdalen<o:p></o:p>
<span style'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:gray;mso-no-proof:yes'>Network
Manager<span
style'mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p></o:p>
<span style'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:gray;mso-no-proof:yes'>Union Safe Deposit
Bank<span
style'mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p></o:p>
<span style'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:gray;mso-no-proof:yes'>209-946-5116<o:p><
/o:p>
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| Subject: | Re: reading too much |
--> RV-List message posted by: Chris <chrisw3@cox.net>
"Frazier, Vincent A" wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Frazier, Vincent A" <VFrazier@usi.edu>
>
> SNIP And yes I know I should stop reading and start building. So I am trying
to learn as much as I can by reading these lists so hopefully when I do start
building it will be easier from all I have learned on these lists. SNIP
>
> With apologies in advance for this analogy, but it is soo true....
>
> When I was a teenager I read everything I could about GIRLS and SEX, but nothing
I read prepared me for the real deal! So quit reading and start building!
Your analogy is fine, and no apologies needed for it, but you to my comment out
of context. In the original message I said that I am not building right now
because it isn't possible at this time. If it were I would be. Believe
me this is one thing I am not procrastinating. And when I do start building I
plan on building it as fast as I can. So in the mean time I am doing the next
best thing and learning all I can in the process.
--
Chris Woodhouse
3147 SW 127th St.
Oklahoma City, OK 73170
405-691-5206 (home)
chrisw@programmer.net
N35 20.492'
W97 34.342'
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| Subject: | Non-RV-related: GPS III Pilot problems |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen, Scott" <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
Cool! Thanks to all for their input. Sounds like I send it in. As I told
another lister, $150 for a brand new GPS III isn't a bad deal anyway.
-----Original Message-----
From: Michel [mailto:rv8ter@rogers.com]
Subject: RE: RV-List: Non-RV-related: GPS III Pilot problems
--> RV-List message posted by: "Michel" <rv8ter@rogers.com>
Interesting! I had exactly the same problem a couple of years ago. I
took off at dusk with my RV3, on the way I lost the GPS signal. I
figured that's great at night is the best time to lose the GPS signal.
It took a couple of other times before I discovered it was when I
brought the light intensity up that the signal disappeared. I completed
the trip with a flashlight on the GPS.
Contacted Garmin and they needed the unit to repair some software issue.
As was indicated turnaround was very good, but this is where you notice
how dependent you become of those gadgets.
Michel
81117 ...40 hrs
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Van Artsdalen,
Scott
Subject: RV-List: Non-RV-related: GPS III Pilot problems
--> RV-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen, Scott"
<svanarts@unionsafe.com>
Not specifically RV related but I'm hoping someone out there can help
me.
I'm having a problem with my Garmin GPS III Pilot: when I have the
backlighting turned on, I begin to lose signal strength. If I turn
BLing up
to full intensity, I completely lose my satellite locks, have to power
down
the unit to reaquire. The unit will not acquire any sats if BLing is
turned on. Is anyone else who uses these units experiencing this
problem?
--
Scott VanArtsdalen
Network Manager
Union Safe Deposit Bank
209-946-5116
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<span style'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Not specifically RV related but I'm hoping someone
out
there can help me. I'm having a
problem with my Garmin GPS III Pilot: when I have the
backlighting turned on, I begin to lose signal strength. <span
style'mso-spacerun:yes'>If I turn BLing up
to full intensity, I completely lose my satellite locks,
have to power down the unit to reaquire.<span
style'mso-spacerun:yes'> The unit will not acquire any <span
classSpellE>sats if BLing is turned on.<span
style'mso-spacerun:yes'> Is anyone else who uses these units
experiencing this problem?<o:p></o:p>
<span style'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p>
<span style'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;mso-no-proof:yes'>--<span style'mso-no-proof:
yes'><o:p></o:p>
<span
style'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'>Sc
ott
VanArtsdalen<o:p></o:p>
<span style'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:gray;mso-no-proof:yes'>Network
Manager<span
style'mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p></o:p>
<span style'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:gray;mso-no-proof:yes'>Union Safe Deposit
Bank<span
style'mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p></o:p>
<span style'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:gray;mso-no-proof:yes'>209-946-5116<o:p><
/o:p>
<span style'font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p></o:p>
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| Subject: | Fuel selector valve attach |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
Somebody please help me find this snake before it bites me...
Which drawing (RV-6) shows the attachment of the fuel selector plate to
the spar bulkhead and the control console?
Thanks
Jeff Point
RV-6 finish kit
Milwaukee WI
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| Subject: | Re: Non-RV-related: GPS III Pilot problems |
--> RV-List message posted by: Roger Embree <rembree@sympatico.ca>
I have exactly the same problem.
Thanks to Scott for bringing this up and others for the solution. I'll
be sending mine in for the software upgrade.
Roger Embree
CGIRH -4 119hrs
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| Subject: | reading too much |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com>
How 'bout a
DO NOT ARCHIVE for this thread??
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Chris
Subject: Re: RV-List: reading too much
--> RV-List message posted by: Chris <chrisw3@cox.net>
"Frazier, Vincent A" wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Frazier, Vincent A" <VFrazier@usi.edu>
>
> SNIP And yes I know I should stop reading and start building. So I am
trying to learn as much as I can by reading these lists so hopefully when I
do start building it will be easier from all I have learned on these lists.
SNIP
>
> With apologies in advance for this analogy, but it is soo true....
>
> When I was a teenager I read everything I could about GIRLS and SEX, but
nothing I read prepared me for the real deal! So quit reading and start
building!
Your analogy is fine, and no apologies needed for it, but you to my comment
out of context. In the original message I said that I am not building right
now because it isn't possible at this time. If it were I would be. Believe
me this is one thing I am not procrastinating. And when I do start building
I plan on building it as fast as I can. So in the mean time I am doing the
next best thing and learning all I can in the process.
--
Chris Woodhouse
3147 SW 127th St.
Oklahoma City, OK 73170
405-691-5206 (home)
chrisw@programmer.net
N35 20.492'
W97 34.342'
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| Subject: | Re: fuel vent exit fittings...anything cleaner? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "John Starn" <jhstarn@earthlink.net>
Do Not Archive. Being a plumbing contractor for more than 25 yrs I would
warn against using a "P-trap" type of loop. The P-trap is specificly
designed to stop air flow. Also P-traps are sized one size smaller (at
least) than the veritical DWV (drain-waste-vent) piping. Your discribing a
"running trap" (illegal in most states) this also this "could" cause just
enough suction to syphon the tank while parked. I'm not an "injunear" just a
poo ole plumber. KABONG
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Carter" <dcarter@datarecall.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: fuel vent exit fittings...anything cleaner?
> --> RV-List message posted by: "David Carter" <dcarter@datarecall.net>
>
> Good point. 8 gal/hr is 1024 fl oz/60min = 17 fl oz/min or 0.28 fl
oz/sec.
> 1/3 fl oz/ sec is a definite flow, but wonder if gravity will keep the
rain
> from being forced uphill at that low flow. If I want to find out I can
put
> a little/short "down and back up loop" in the loop inside cockpit near
the
> top and put a drain valve so I could fly through rain, then open the valve
> and actually see if any water was trapped there (like a p trap under a
> sink). Something like one really should have in their pitot and static
> lines, though those don't so much fill with "ram water" as with
condensation
> over a long period of time.
>
> David
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <SportAV8R@aol.com>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: RV-List: fuel vent exit fittings...anything cleaner?
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com
> >
> > We must assume that about eight gallons of air per hour is being sucked
> in,
> > to replace the fuel...
> >
> > > If the tank is sealed, except for the
> > > vent, there could be NO airflow into the vent line, right?
> > >
> > > David
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel selector valve attach |
--> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
Jeff Point wrote:
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
>
> Somebody please help me find this snake before it bites me...
>
> Which drawing (RV-6) shows the attachment of the fuel selector plate to
> the spar bulkhead and the control console?
>
> Thanks
> Jeff Point
> RV-6 finish kit
> Milwaukee WI
Dwg 32, upper left corner, and bottom center.
Jeff, I used a mod that I saw somewhere and really recommend it. If you
mount the valve plate *under* the floor pans (instead of above as shown
in the plans), you can remove the floor pans MUCH easier. Here is a
link:
http://home.hiwaay.net/~sbuc/journal/finish3.html
Scroll down to near the bottom of the page.
Sam Buchanan
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| Subject: | new stuff / old stuff |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Aircraft Technical Book Company" <winterland@rkymtnhi.com>
NEW STUFF
Lots of new items (mostly on flying skills) that are not yet posted on
Builder's Bookstore. So, until they are in about 4-5 days, we'll do a 20%
off sale. (valid till Moday the 13th) As they are not yet posted, if you
want anything from this list, please order by return e-mail or phone. Tell
us your on the RV-list and we'll deduct 20%.
Pilot's Manual (Textbooks) - Jeppesen
Brush up on your flying skills, or earn a new rating. The Jeppesen pilot's
manuals are top shelf! A little bit pricey, but the best available. They
will be replacing the lesser quality ASA manuals we used to carry.
Private Pilot Manual $76.95 now $61.56
Instrument/Commercial Pilot Manual $81.95 now $65.56
Flight Instructor Manual $72.95 now $58.36
Multi Engine Manual $59.95 now $47.96 (for the RV-12?)
Flight School - CD
A complete at-home course with an interactive textbook, lesson plans, audio,
animations, and the complete written test guide with a self grading virtual
test experience. This is a really neat program.
Private Pilot Flight School $154.95 now $123.96
Instrument Pilot Flight School $159.95 now $127.96
2003 FAR/AIMs with FARs for AMTs on CD
$29.95 now $23.96
Human Factors for Aviation
Accident analysis based on human perception, cockpit and panel design,
physiological issues, and resource management $41.95 now $33.56
Flight Theory for Pilots
An primary but somewhat technical aerodynamics text written for Air Force
pilots. Lots of math. $23.95 now $19.16
OLD STUFF
Here's a few more bargain basement items at big discounts. These are either
older editions, slightly worn items, or brand new sample books we are not
going to carry. Most of these are 1 of a kind, so its first come first
serve.
Understanding Composites
brand new and excellent composite working books specifically for light
aircraft. These are normally $29.95 but I've got a few (9) with clipped
covers which are now 1/2 price $15.00
Advanced Composites
The characteristics and use of high tech materials such as carbon, kevlar,
borons, honeycombs, etc... 2 left of the earlier edition. Was $32.95
Now $15.00
Avionics Technician Best Shop Practices
1 left of the 2002 edition Was $19.95 Now $10.00
Panel Planner Software
an earlier version we were sent for evaluation. Definitely not worth the
$125 they were asking for it, but may be fun to play with for just $20
Understanding Performance Flight Testing
flight testing for kitplanes. a good book which is somewhat more
technically written but not that much better than Flight Testing For
Homebuilt Aircraft, that we currently carry, but since this one is $10 more,
I elected to stick with the original. 1 sample copy Was $35 now $20
Gleim Private Flight Manuevers
I don't particularly like the Gleim books. Some do; I don't. Here's one
for $10.
Gleim Private Test guide
Same as above. Its OK, but the Jepp and ASA books are better 1 for $10
Gleim Aviation weather
Not even close to the quality of the Jeppesen Weather book; but it is
cheaper.
Now this one is alot cheaper $10
Aviation Law - an introduction
Not our thing. If its your's, heres an good sized, hard cover text for $20
The Around The Rim Flight
Story of Col. RS Hartz who flew a twin engine Glen-Martin Bomber around the
US. $5 - or because you've patiently read through this entire post; Free
with any other order. But I've just got one.
Thanks,
Andy
Builder's Bookstore
http://www.buildersbooks.com
800 780-4115
do not archive
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--> RV-List message posted by: "David Carter" <dcarter@datarecall.net>
Bruce,
Excellent idea. Thanks for the explanation. I'll post this to the list, as
it is quite relevant to current thread.
David
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Bell" <rv4bell@door.net>
Subject: Re: Vent Line
> David,
> There is less chance of a complete line blockage. If the front hole gets
> blocked with ice or a foreign object you just still might have a open vent
> line. Later Beech heated these fuel vents.
> Bruce Bell
> Lubbock, Texas
> RV4 # 2888
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Carter" <dcarter@datarecall.net>
> To: "Bruce Bell" <rv4bell@door.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 5:10 PM
> Subject: Re: Vent Line
>
>
> > Hello, Bruce. Thanks for the reply. What is the .040 hole in back of
> vent
> > line for?
> >
> > David
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bruce Bell" <rv4bell@door.net>
> > To: <dcarter@datarecall.net>
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 3:29 PM
> > Subject: Vent Line
> >
> >
> > > Hi David,
> > > On my 1949 A35 Bonanza Beech drilled a 40 or so hole on the aft side
of
> > the
> > > fuel vent line. In fact I am going to do that on my RV4 right now!
> > > Regards,
> > > Bruce Bell
> > > Lubbock, Texas
> > > RV4 # 2888
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: fuel vent exit fittings...anything cleaner? |
--> RV-List message posted by: LeastDrag93066@aol.com
Hi All,
I'd say something about the 2" chord by 0.25 thick symmetrical airfoil
pressure vent with two static vents that I've been flying on my RV-3 for 14
years, but someone would probably just label the title with [SPAM].
Funny how (after developing a specialized product) when I try to sell it, I
become the "BAD GUY".
Too bad.
Jim Ayers
RV-3 N47RV sn50
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| Subject: | Re: fuel vent exit fittings...anything cleaner? |
--> RV-List message posted by: JDaniel343@aol.com
Keep in mind the leg gear intersection will fit over the vent if it is placed
to far to the outside. This can be fixed but may require a longer tube than
you thought would be required.
John Danielson
RV-6 110 hrs
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| Subject: | Re: fuel vent exit fittings...anything cleaner? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
mstewart@qa.butler.com wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: mstewart@qa.butler.com
>
> On my NEXT plane....
> Im running the vent out some place other than the place where it stinks up
> the cockpit all the time.
>
> To answer your question, yes it was done on earlier models.
> You could just run the line out the bottom through a grommet. And be done
> with it.
> There is probably some logic to running it six feet away, into the fuse, up
> the side wall, and down into a place hard to get to, but Ill be damned if I
> know what it is.
> I agree, the chewed up bulkhead fitting looks and is cheesey.
> Mike Stewart
> 6A flying
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Checkoway [mailto:dan@rvproject.com]
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV-List: fuel vent exit fittings...anything cleaner?
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
>
> RV-7 tailwheel tip-up...the plans call for using a bulkhead union fitting
> where the fuel vent lines exit the floor. They call out slicing the forward
> face at an angle and covering the opening with a piece of screen. I assume
> it was the same on earlier models.
>
> Is there a more elegant solution, i.e. something you can buy off the shelf?
> The thought of having to file off the threads and slice this thing, then
> basically gluing on a screen sounds kludgy, although yeah, it works and it's
> cheap. But what I'm after is a pre-made exit fitting that would look
> prettier out of the box.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> )_( Dan
> RV-7 N714D (fuselage)
> http://www.rvproject.com
>
I certainly know what my vent inlet looks like, but out of all the RVs I've
looked at since the first RV-3 I saw in 1970 I cannot remember what one of
those other vent inlets looks like. If they are done neatly and painted you
don't really notice them. You would be better off spending time on your upper
gear leg farings because that is what people are going to be looking at when
they are crawling around under your airplane. :-)
Rain water getting into the vent in flight has been a none issue, in my case
anyway, and I have been in some pretty nasty rains storms.
Jerry
do not archive
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| Subject: | fuel vent exit fittings...anything cleaner? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Ed Holyoke <bicyclop@pacbell.net>
Jim,
Bad guy or not, I'm curious and would like to know more.
Ed Holyoke
6QB
drilling engine mount to firewall tomorrow night.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-
> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of LeastDrag93066@aol.com
> Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 8:41 PM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV-List: fuel vent exit fittings...anything cleaner?
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: LeastDrag93066@aol.com
>
> Hi All,
>
> I'd say something about the 2" chord by 0.25 thick symmetrical airfoil
> pressure vent with two static vents that I've been flying on my RV-3
for
> 14
> years, but someone would probably just label the title with [SPAM].
>
> Funny how (after developing a specialized product) when I try to sell
it,
> I
> become the "BAD GUY".
>
> Too bad.
>
> Jim Ayers
> RV-3 N47RV sn50
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Non-RV-related: GPS III Pilot problems |
--> RV-List message posted by: Rob Prior <rv7@b4.ca>
Before everyone sends their GPS in for service, you might want to check to
see if you're running the latest firmware on it.
http://www.garmin.com/products/gpsIIIPilot/download.html
Or, start from the www.garmin.com page and click on "software updates". If
it's just a software update, then this is likely it. If it's not "just" a
software update, you may still need to send your unit in... But it may be
worth trying this first.
If it does work, however, you may have just saved yourself $150.
-RB4
Roger Embree wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Roger Embree <rembree@sympatico.ca>
>
> I have exactly the same problem.
>
> Thanks to Scott for bringing this up and others for the solution. I'll
> be sending mine in for the software upgrade.
>
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Rob Prior
rv7 "at" b4.ca
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