Today's Message Index:
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1. 03:43 AM - T-410 reinforcement plate (lucky macy)
2. 04:53 AM - Re: Sliding Canopy Lock (mstewart@qa.butler.com)
3. 07:04 AM - Re: Sliding Canopy Lock (Albert Gardner)
4. 07:25 AM - New GARMIN PDA map 495$ street price (P M Condon)
5. 08:02 AM - Re: New GARMIN PDA map 495$ street price (Ollie Washburn)
6. 08:22 AM - Re: New GARMIN PDA map 495$ street price (Ed_Cole@maximhq.com)
7. 08:33 AM - Re: New GARMIN PDA map 495$ street price (Van Artsdalen, Scott)
8. 08:47 AM - Re: New GARMIN PDA map 495$ street price (Van Artsdalen, Scott)
9. 09:05 AM - Re: New GARMIN PDA map 495$ street price (Chris)
10. 09:08 AM - Malcolm... (KAKlewin@aol.com)
11. 10:16 AM - Re: New GARMIN PDA map 495$ street price (Sam Buchanan)
12. 10:42 AM - Collins Wiring Diagram (Chuck Weyant)
13. 12:39 PM - Gutter, rain guard, water guard (LarryRobertHelming)
14. 01:22 PM - Re: Gutter, rain guard, water guard (SportAV8R@aol.com)
15. 01:44 PM - Re: Collins Wiring Diagram (Dave Bristol)
16. 01:52 PM - Misc Questions (Ron Ingram)
17. 02:43 PM - Re: Misc Questions ...liquid shim (Rick Galati)
18. 02:48 PM - Re: Misc Questions (Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club)
19. 03:34 PM - Re: SHIM Question and Big hint: was: Misc Questions (Jim Norman)
20. 03:44 PM - Re: Re: Misc Questions ...liquid shim (Jack Textor)
21. 03:57 PM - Airmap 300 to Navaid (John Mcmahon)
22. 04:09 PM - Request for in-flight engine power data (Kevin Horton)
23. 04:19 PM - Re: T-410 reinforcement plate (RV4PatA@aol.com)
24. 04:46 PM - Re: Gutter, rain guard, water guard (LarryRobertHelming)
25. 04:51 PM - Re: Airmap 300 to Navaid (Sam Buchanan)
26. 04:58 PM - Re: T-410 reinforcement plate (lucky macy)
27. 05:36 PM - SW fuel sender mount for inverted tank (lucky macy)
28. 06:07 PM - Re: T-410 reinforcement plate (Curt Hoffman)
29. 07:39 PM - Re: Cowl prep (Tracy Crook)
30. 07:40 PM - Re: SW fuel sender mount for inverted tank (Steve Struyk)
31. 07:44 PM - Re: SW fuel sender mount for inverted tank (Steve Struyk)
32. 07:45 PM - Re: SW fuel sender mount for inverted tank (Neil McLeod)
33. 08:07 PM - Re: Malcolm... (KAKlewin@aol.com)
34. 09:48 PM - Holes (Dave von Linsowe)
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| Subject: | T-410 reinforcement plate |
--> RV-List message posted by: "lucky macy" <luckymacy@hotmail.com>
How critical is it to have a snug fit all around the wing skin leading edge
by the T-410 reinforcement plate that fits on the inside of each off the two
outer wing tank ribs?
I've never seen proseal but from what I gather it is not only sticky but is
an excellent gap filler and remains pliable enough not to break seal due to
vibration and temperature conditions.
Hypothetically, if one left the plate off, could the pro seal alone fill the
gaps around the rib leading edge flange cutouts and seal the tank
satisfactorily?
lucky
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| Subject: | Sliding Canopy Lock |
--> RV-List message posted by: mstewart@qa.butler.com
That's a good idea.
Only there are a hundred like this.
Mine is one.
I think I first saw it on the orndorf videos but Im not sure.
Many moons ago.
Do not archive
Mike Stewart
6A Flying
-----Original Message-----
From: Albert Gardner [mailto:albert.gardner@worldnet.att.net]
Subject: RV-List: Sliding Canopy Lock
--> RV-List message posted by: "Albert Gardner"
<albert.gardner@worldnet.att.net>
I discovered a rather simple canopy lock setup that looks like it might do
the job.
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| Subject: | Re: Sliding Canopy Lock |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Albert Gardner" <albert.gardner@worldnet.att.net>
Oops, with my sliding canopy lock idea, I feel like Al Gore when he told the
world he had just invented the Internet. In my defense, it's fairly hot here
in Yuma even in Winter and I had been out in the sun all day. It's still a
good idea even it's not an original one. Maybe checking the archives would
have been a better idea.
Albert Gardner
(RV-9A builder with a new address)
Yuma Territorial Penitentiary, AZ
Do not archive.
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| Subject: | New GARMIN PDA map 495$ street price |
--> RV-List message posted by: P M Condon <pcondon@mitre.org>
The most interesting part of this Garmin PDA is the integrated GPS
antenna. There are no wires, batteries and extended plug-in modules to
install/integrate into a standard PDA. Garmin has the antenna integrated
and "pivot-able" to aim skywards.
Also, Garmin has the developers kit on the market (developers software
and prototype hardware so the wiz-guys can create/modify/develop
software) so there is sure to be apps available to run on the new Garmin
PDA. Also-also, since Garmin has maping software, aviation databases
and the lot -- for other aviation receivers in its line---- it MAY be a
simple matter to install the aviation DB on the new PDA..
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Brad Benson" <brad@cds-inc.com>
>
>
> Unless I'm mistaken, NavGPS doesn't work on a Palm - their website states
PocketPC and Windows boxen only.
>
> I guess I might mention my Palm software package - Airport Insight -
http://www.notamd.com.
> My motto: "Please buy my software, it's funding my RV6A project!".
>
> Cheers,
> Brad Benson
> RV6AQB underway...
>
> *********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********
>
> On 1/13/2003 at 2:12 PM Bill VonDane wrote:
>
> >--> RV-List message posted by: "Bill VonDane" <n8wv@vondane.com>
> >
> >Don't forget NavGPS: www.gonavgps.com
> >
> >
> >-Bill
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Van Artsdalen, Scott" <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
> >To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: RV-List: Palm flying was: New GARMIN PDA map
> >
> >
> >--> RV-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen, Scott"
> ><svanarts@unionsafe.com>
> >
> >Actually, there are a few good Palm apps out there for Aviation. Here
are
> >a
> >list of my favorites:
> >
> >Flight Planning:
> >CoPilot: http://www.palmgear.com/software/showsoftware.cfm?prodID=7184
> >
> >EFIS:
> >FlightBuddy EFIS: http://www.aspenleaf.com/palm/
> >PalmEFIS: http://www.hangarb17.com/home.html
> >
> >
> >GPS:
> >FlyGps: http://www.gpspilot.com/Fly.htm
> >PathAway: http://www.pathaway.com
> >
> >
> >Best overall site: http://www.palmflying.com/index.html
> >
> >Chuck,
> >Coalinga is just inside my test range! You oughta' be seeing me in 2 - 3
> >weeks!
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: C. Rabaut [mailto:crabaut@coalinga.com]
> >To: RV-List
> >Subject: Fw: RV-List: New GARMIN PDA map with integrated GPS antenna
> >
> >--> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
> >
> >Hey, I've been forced to utilize a Palm V at work... any chance I could
> >cross over and use it for flyin' too?
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Van Artsdalen, Scott <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
> >To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: RE: RV-List: New GARMIN PDA map with integrated GPS antenna
> >
> >
> >> --> RV-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen, Scott"
> ><svanarts@unionsafe.com>
> >>
> >> The new Garmin appears to run on a Palm OS device. Does Control Vision
> >have
> >> any plans to port AnywhereMap over to PalmOS?
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: P M Condon [mailto:pcondon@mitre.org]
> >> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> >> Subject: RV-List: New GARMIN PDA map with integrated GPS antenna
> >>
> >> --> RV-List message posted by: P M Condon <pcondon@mitre.org>
> >>
> >> Check out Garmins new PDA. With the Anywhere(tm) Mapping software, this
> >> combo looks very interesting. Street prices for this new Garmin is 495$
> >> american
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
> Brad Benson, Software Architect
> Computer Data Strategies, Inc.
> Ph. 651-730-4156 / Fax 651-730-4161
> "Before you say anything, walk a mile in the other person's shoes. Then
you'll be a mile away from them, and you'll have their shoes."
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: New GARMIN PDA map 495$ street price |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ollie Washburn" <skybolt-aviator@msn.com>
It still will not have as much info as Anywheremap and a Sential GPS plugs into
Anywhere Map,hence no wires.Also I believe the screen is smaller and what about
updates.With anywhere map we get them once a month.
----- Original Message -----
From: P M Condon
Subject: RV-List: New GARMIN PDA map 495$ street price
--> RV-List message posted by: P M Condon <pcondon@mitre.org>
The most interesting part of this Garmin PDA is the integrated GPS
antenna. There are no wires, batteries and extended plug-in modules to
install/integrate into a standard PDA. Garmin has the antenna integrated
and "pivot-able" to aim skywards.
Also, Garmin has the developers kit on the market (developers software
and prototype hardware so the wiz-guys can create/modify/develop
software) so there is sure to be apps available to run on the new Garmin
PDA. Also-also, since Garmin has maping software, aviation databases
and the lot -- for other aviation receivers in its line---- it MAY be a
simple matter to install the aviation DB on the new PDA..
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Brad Benson" <brad@cds-inc.com>
>
>
> Unless I'm mistaken, NavGPS doesn't work on a Palm - their website states
PocketPC and Windows boxen only.
>
> I guess I might mention my Palm software package - Airport Insight -
http://www.notamd.com.
> My motto: "Please buy my software, it's funding my RV6A project!".
>
> Cheers,
> Brad Benson
> RV6AQB underway...
>
> *********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********
>
> On 1/13/2003 at 2:12 PM Bill VonDane wrote:
>
> >--> RV-List message posted by: "Bill VonDane" <n8wv@vondane.com>
> >
> >Don't forget NavGPS: www.gonavgps.com
> >
> >
> >-Bill
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Van Artsdalen, Scott" <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
> >To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: RV-List: Palm flying was: New GARMIN PDA map
> >
> >
> >--> RV-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen, Scott"
> ><svanarts@unionsafe.com>
> >
> >Actually, there are a few good Palm apps out there for Aviation. Here
are
> >a
> >list of my favorites:
> >
> >Flight Planning:
> >CoPilot: http://www.palmgear.com/software/showsoftware.cfm?prodID7184
> >
> >EFIS:
> >FlightBuddy EFIS: http://www.aspenleaf.com/palm/
> >PalmEFIS: http://www.hangarb17.com/home.html
> >
> >
> >GPS:
> >FlyGps: http://www.gpspilot.com/Fly.htm
> >PathAway: http://www.pathaway.com
> >
> >
> >Best overall site: http://www.palmflying.com/index.html
> >
> >Chuck,
> >Coalinga is just inside my test range! You oughta' be seeing me in 2 - 3
> >weeks!
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: C. Rabaut [mailto:crabaut@coalinga.com]
> >To: RV-List
> >Subject: Fw: RV-List: New GARMIN PDA map with integrated GPS antenna
> >
> >--> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
> >
> >Hey, I've been forced to utilize a Palm V at work... any chance I could
> >cross over and use it for flyin' too?
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Van Artsdalen, Scott <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
> >To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: RE: RV-List: New GARMIN PDA map with integrated GPS antenna
> >
> >
> >> --> RV-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen, Scott"
> ><svanarts@unionsafe.com>
> >>
> >> The new Garmin appears to run on a Palm OS device. Does Control Vision
> >have
> >> any plans to port AnywhereMap over to PalmOS?
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: P M Condon [mailto:pcondon@mitre.org]
> >> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> >> Subject: RV-List: New GARMIN PDA map with integrated GPS antenna
> >>
> >> --> RV-List message posted by: P M Condon <pcondon@mitre.org>
> >>
> >> Check out Garmins new PDA. With the Anywhere(tm) Mapping software, this
> >> combo looks very interesting. Street prices for this new Garmin is 495$
> >> american
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
> Brad Benson, Software Architect
> Computer Data Strategies, Inc.
> Ph. 651-730-4156 / Fax 651-730-4161
> "Before you say anything, walk a mile in the other person's shoes. Then
you'll be a mile away from them, and you'll have their shoes."
>
>
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| Subject: | New GARMIN PDA map 495$ street price |
--> RV-List message posted by: Ed_Cole@maximhq.com
I think you'll find that the integrated antenna will perform poorly inside
the cockpit.
This was/is a problem with the Anywhere Map IPAQ system using the Accessory
sleeve
GPS unit.
Ed Cole
RV6A N2169D Flying
RV6A N648RV Finishing
> -----Original Message-----
> From: P M Condon [SMTP:pcondon@mitre.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 7:22 AM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV-List: New GARMIN PDA map 495$ street price
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: P M Condon <pcondon@mitre.org>
>
> The most interesting part of this Garmin PDA is the integrated GPS
> antenna. There are no wires, batteries and extended plug-in modules to
> install/integrate into a standard PDA. Garmin has the antenna integrated
> and "pivot-able" to aim skywards.
>
> Also, Garmin has the developers kit on the market (developers software
> and prototype hardware so the wiz-guys can create/modify/develop
> software) so there is sure to be apps available to run on the new Garmin
> PDA. Also-also, since Garmin has maping software, aviation databases
> and the lot -- for other aviation receivers in its line---- it MAY be a
> simple matter to install the aviation DB on the new PDA..
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Brad Benson" <brad@cds-inc.com>
> >
> >
> > Unless I'm mistaken, NavGPS doesn't work on a Palm - their website
> states
> PocketPC and Windows boxen only.
> >
> > I guess I might mention my Palm software package - Airport Insight -
> http://www.notamd.com.
> > My motto: "Please buy my software, it's funding my RV6A project!".
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Brad Benson
> > RV6AQB underway...
> >
> > *********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********
> >
> > On 1/13/2003 at 2:12 PM Bill VonDane wrote:
> >
> > >--> RV-List message posted by: "Bill VonDane" <n8wv@vondane.com>
> > >
> > >Don't forget NavGPS: www.gonavgps.com
> > >
> > >
> > >-Bill
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Van Artsdalen, Scott" <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
> > >To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> > >Subject: RV-List: Palm flying was: New GARMIN PDA map
> > >
> > >
> > >--> RV-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen, Scott"
> > ><svanarts@unionsafe.com>
> > >
> > >Actually, there are a few good Palm apps out there for Aviation. Here
> are
> > >a
> > >list of my favorites:
> > >
> > >Flight Planning:
> > >CoPilot: http://www.palmgear.com/software/showsoftware.cfm?prodID=7184
> > >
> > >EFIS:
> > >FlightBuddy EFIS: http://www.aspenleaf.com/palm/
> > >PalmEFIS: http://www.hangarb17.com/home.html
> > >
> > >
> > >GPS:
> > >FlyGps: http://www.gpspilot.com/Fly.htm
> > >PathAway: http://www.pathaway.com
> > >
> > >
> > >Best overall site: http://www.palmflying.com/index.html
> > >
> > >Chuck,
> > >Coalinga is just inside my test range! You oughta' be seeing me in 2 -
> 3
> > >weeks!
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: C. Rabaut [mailto:crabaut@coalinga.com]
> > >To: RV-List
> > >Subject: Fw: RV-List: New GARMIN PDA map with integrated GPS antenna
> > >
> > >--> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
> > >
> > >Hey, I've been forced to utilize a Palm V at work... any chance I could
> > >cross over and use it for flyin' too?
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: Van Artsdalen, Scott <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
> > >To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> > >Subject: RE: RV-List: New GARMIN PDA map with integrated GPS antenna
> > >
> > >
> > >> --> RV-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen, Scott"
> > ><svanarts@unionsafe.com>
> > >>
> > >> The new Garmin appears to run on a Palm OS device. Does Control
> Vision
> > >have
> > >> any plans to port AnywhereMap over to PalmOS?
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: P M Condon [mailto:pcondon@mitre.org]
> > >> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> > >> Subject: RV-List: New GARMIN PDA map with integrated GPS antenna
> > >>
> > >> --> RV-List message posted by: P M Condon <pcondon@mitre.org>
> > >>
> > >> Check out Garmins new PDA. With the Anywhere(tm) Mapping software,
> this
> > >> combo looks very interesting. Street prices for this new Garmin is
> 495$
> > >> american
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > Brad Benson, Software Architect
> > Computer Data Strategies, Inc.
> > Ph. 651-730-4156 / Fax 651-730-4161
> > "Before you say anything, walk a mile in the other person's shoes. Then
> you'll be a mile away from them, and you'll have their shoes."
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | New GARMIN PDA map 495$ street price |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen, Scott" <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
Very true and there are already a couple of good Palm-based GPS apps out
there that could be used.
-----Original Message-----
From: P M Condon [mailto:pcondon@mitre.org]
Subject: RV-List: New GARMIN PDA map 495$ street price
--> RV-List message posted by: P M Condon <pcondon@mitre.org>
The most interesting part of this Garmin PDA is the integrated GPS
antenna. There are no wires, batteries and extended plug-in modules to
install/integrate into a standard PDA. Garmin has the antenna integrated
and "pivot-able" to aim skywards.
Also, Garmin has the developers kit on the market (developers software
and prototype hardware so the wiz-guys can create/modify/develop
software) so there is sure to be apps available to run on the new Garmin
PDA. Also-also, since Garmin has maping software, aviation databases
and the lot -- for other aviation receivers in its line---- it MAY be a
simple matter to install the aviation DB on the new PDA..
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Brad Benson" <brad@cds-inc.com>
>
>
> Unless I'm mistaken, NavGPS doesn't work on a Palm - their website states
PocketPC and Windows boxen only.
>
> I guess I might mention my Palm software package - Airport Insight -
http://www.notamd.com.
> My motto: "Please buy my software, it's funding my RV6A project!".
>
> Cheers,
> Brad Benson
> RV6AQB underway...
>
> *********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********
>
> On 1/13/2003 at 2:12 PM Bill VonDane wrote:
>
> >--> RV-List message posted by: "Bill VonDane" <n8wv@vondane.com>
> >
> >Don't forget NavGPS: www.gonavgps.com
> >
> >
> >-Bill
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Van Artsdalen, Scott" <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
> >To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: RV-List: Palm flying was: New GARMIN PDA map
> >
> >
> >--> RV-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen, Scott"
> ><svanarts@unionsafe.com>
> >
> >Actually, there are a few good Palm apps out there for Aviation. Here
are
> >a
> >list of my favorites:
> >
> >Flight Planning:
> >CoPilot: http://www.palmgear.com/software/showsoftware.cfm?prodID=7184
> >
> >EFIS:
> >FlightBuddy EFIS: http://www.aspenleaf.com/palm/
> >PalmEFIS: http://www.hangarb17.com/home.html
> >
> >
> >GPS:
> >FlyGps: http://www.gpspilot.com/Fly.htm
> >PathAway: http://www.pathaway.com
> >
> >
> >Best overall site: http://www.palmflying.com/index.html
> >
> >Chuck,
> >Coalinga is just inside my test range! You oughta' be seeing me in 2 - 3
> >weeks!
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: C. Rabaut [mailto:crabaut@coalinga.com]
> >To: RV-List
> >Subject: Fw: RV-List: New GARMIN PDA map with integrated GPS antenna
> >
> >--> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
> >
> >Hey, I've been forced to utilize a Palm V at work... any chance I could
> >cross over and use it for flyin' too?
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Van Artsdalen, Scott <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
> >To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: RE: RV-List: New GARMIN PDA map with integrated GPS antenna
> >
> >
> >> --> RV-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen, Scott"
> ><svanarts@unionsafe.com>
> >>
> >> The new Garmin appears to run on a Palm OS device. Does Control Vision
> >have
> >> any plans to port AnywhereMap over to PalmOS?
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: P M Condon [mailto:pcondon@mitre.org]
> >> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> >> Subject: RV-List: New GARMIN PDA map with integrated GPS antenna
> >>
> >> --> RV-List message posted by: P M Condon <pcondon@mitre.org>
> >>
> >> Check out Garmins new PDA. With the Anywhere(tm) Mapping software, this
> >> combo looks very interesting. Street prices for this new Garmin is 495$
> >> american
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
> Brad Benson, Software Architect
> Computer Data Strategies, Inc.
> Ph. 651-730-4156 / Fax 651-730-4161
> "Before you say anything, walk a mile in the other person's shoes. Then
you'll be a mile away from them, and you'll have their shoes."
>
>
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| Subject: | New GARMIN PDA map 495$ street price |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen, Scott" <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
I think it's all about preference. Some people like PalmOS devices better.
I can say that's it's much more stable that the CE devices. At least in my
experience.
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: Ollie Washburn [mailto:skybolt-aviator@msn.com]
Subject: Re: RV-List: New GARMIN PDA map 495$ street price
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ollie Washburn" <skybolt-aviator@msn.com>
It still will not have as much info as Anywheremap and a Sential GPS plugs
into Anywhere Map,hence no wires.Also I believe the screen is smaller and
what about updates.With anywhere map we get them once a month.
----- Original Message -----
From: P M Condon
Subject: RV-List: New GARMIN PDA map 495$ street price
--> RV-List message posted by: P M Condon <pcondon@mitre.org>
The most interesting part of this Garmin PDA is the integrated GPS
antenna. There are no wires, batteries and extended plug-in modules to
install/integrate into a standard PDA. Garmin has the antenna integrated
and "pivot-able" to aim skywards.
Also, Garmin has the developers kit on the market (developers software
and prototype hardware so the wiz-guys can create/modify/develop
software) so there is sure to be apps available to run on the new Garmin
PDA. Also-also, since Garmin has maping software, aviation databases
and the lot -- for other aviation receivers in its line---- it MAY be a
simple matter to install the aviation DB on the new PDA..
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Brad Benson" <brad@cds-inc.com>
>
>
> Unless I'm mistaken, NavGPS doesn't work on a Palm - their website states
PocketPC and Windows boxen only.
>
> I guess I might mention my Palm software package - Airport Insight -
http://www.notamd.com.
> My motto: "Please buy my software, it's funding my RV6A project!".
>
> Cheers,
> Brad Benson
> RV6AQB underway...
>
> *********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********
>
> On 1/13/2003 at 2:12 PM Bill VonDane wrote:
>
> >--> RV-List message posted by: "Bill VonDane" <n8wv@vondane.com>
> >
> >Don't forget NavGPS: www.gonavgps.com
> >
> >
> >-Bill
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Van Artsdalen, Scott" <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
> >To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: RV-List: Palm flying was: New GARMIN PDA map
> >
> >
> >--> RV-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen, Scott"
> ><svanarts@unionsafe.com>
> >
> >Actually, there are a few good Palm apps out there for Aviation. Here
are
> >a
> >list of my favorites:
> >
> >Flight Planning:
> >CoPilot: http://www.palmgear.com/software/showsoftware.cfm?prodID7184
> >
> >EFIS:
> >FlightBuddy EFIS: http://www.aspenleaf.com/palm/
> >PalmEFIS: http://www.hangarb17.com/home.html
> >
> >
> >GPS:
> >FlyGps: http://www.gpspilot.com/Fly.htm
> >PathAway: http://www.pathaway.com
> >
> >
> >Best overall site: http://www.palmflying.com/index.html
> >
> >Chuck,
> >Coalinga is just inside my test range! You oughta' be seeing me in 2 - 3
> >weeks!
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: C. Rabaut [mailto:crabaut@coalinga.com]
> >To: RV-List
> >Subject: Fw: RV-List: New GARMIN PDA map with integrated GPS antenna
> >
> >--> RV-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
> >
> >Hey, I've been forced to utilize a Palm V at work... any chance I could
> >cross over and use it for flyin' too?
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Van Artsdalen, Scott <svanarts@unionsafe.com>
> >To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: RE: RV-List: New GARMIN PDA map with integrated GPS antenna
> >
> >
> >> --> RV-List message posted by: "Van Artsdalen, Scott"
> ><svanarts@unionsafe.com>
> >>
> >> The new Garmin appears to run on a Palm OS device. Does Control Vision
> >have
> >> any plans to port AnywhereMap over to PalmOS?
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: P M Condon [mailto:pcondon@mitre.org]
> >> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> >> Subject: RV-List: New GARMIN PDA map with integrated GPS antenna
> >>
> >> --> RV-List message posted by: P M Condon <pcondon@mitre.org>
> >>
> >> Check out Garmins new PDA. With the Anywhere(tm) Mapping software, this
> >> combo looks very interesting. Street prices for this new Garmin is 495$
> >> american
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
> Brad Benson, Software Architect
> Computer Data Strategies, Inc.
> Ph. 651-730-4156 / Fax 651-730-4161
> "Before you say anything, walk a mile in the other person's shoes. Then
you'll be a mile away from them, and you'll have their shoes."
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: New GARMIN PDA map 495$ street price |
--> RV-List message posted by: Chris <chrisw3@cox.net>
Ed_Cole@maximhq.com wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Ed_Cole@maximhq.com
>
> I think you'll find that the integrated antenna will perform poorly inside
> the cockpit. This was/is a problem with the Anywhere Map IPAQ system using
> the Accessory
> sleeve GPS unit.
You may be right Ed, but my experience tells me other wise. I have used GPS
units for longer than most people even knew they existed. I have a pretty early
unit from Garmin that I have had for I don't know how many years, and inside a
car, or just about any structure for that mater, it doesn't work very well if at
all. But the newer units work amazingly better. And in an RV, if you mount the
unit so the antenna on it is above the top of the panel it has about as wide
open view of the sky as you can get. And if signal strength is still a problem,
the great thing about the new Garmin PDA/GPS is it, unlike most others I am
aware of, it has an external antenna jack.
--
Chris Woodhouse
3147 SW 127th St.
Oklahoma City, OK 73170
405-691-5206 (home)
chrisw@programmer.net
N35 20.492'
W97 34.342'
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--> RV-List message posted by: KAKlewin@aol.com
Malcolm,
Thanks for the offer of help in contacting Andair...I'll try a few more emails,
but if to no advail, I'll drop you a note. Nice to have friends on the RV
list ...sure helps out at times!!! Thanks again for your kind offer...I may take
you up on it if this takes much longer. Take care.
Kurt Klewin, OKC, OK, USA
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| Subject: | Re: New GARMIN PDA map 495$ street price |
--> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
Chris wrote:
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Chris <chrisw3@cox.net>
>
> Ed_Cole@maximhq.com wrote:
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: Ed_Cole@maximhq.com
> >
> > I think you'll find that the integrated antenna will perform poorly inside
> > the cockpit. This was/is a problem with the Anywhere Map IPAQ system using
> > the Accessory
> > sleeve GPS unit.
>
> You may be right Ed, but my experience tells me other wise. I have used GPS
> units for longer than most people even knew they existed. I have a pretty early
> unit from Garmin that I have had for I don't know how many years, and inside
a
> car, or just about any structure for that mater, it doesn't work very well if
at
> all. But the newer units work amazingly better. And in an RV, if you mount
the
> unit so the antenna on it is above the top of the panel it has about as wide
> open view of the sky as you can get. And if signal strength is still a problem,
> the great thing about the new Garmin PDA/GPS is it, unlike most others I am
> aware of, it has an external antenna jack.
>
> --
> Chris Woodhouse
Since I have used the iPAQ/AnywhereMap with three different GPS
configurations, let me toss in my $0.02 worth. :-)
First of all, since I don't know if the new Garmin will ever be offered
with an aviation database (I suspect that would impact sales of their
aviation-dedicated units), all this discussion may be a mote point.
According to the illustrations I saw on Garmin's site, the integrated
antenna extends at an angle from the PDA. As a general rule, GPS
antennae need to be "parallel" to the sky for satisfactory operation.
This characteristic is one reason the external antenna is required in
most aircraft installations of the iPAQ and Sentinel compact flash card
receiver. AnywhereMap customers quickly discovered (and my experiences
with the Sentinel bore this out) that the vertically oriented antenna
just couldn't see enough of the sky during routine maneuvers to offer
reliable operation. This is in spite of the Sentinel being a 12 channel
receiver. When the external antenna was installed and placed in a
"horizontal" position on the glareshield, GPS performance was greatly
enhanced. Because of this shortcoming, I resorted to using the Garmin
GPS35 integrated receiver/antenna wich resides on the glareshield and
provides stellar performance.
I say that to say this. The angled antenna on the Garmin PDA appears to
be intended primarily for handheld use since this would allow the
antenna to be nearly horizontal while the PDA is held at a comfortable
viewing angle. However, this is not satifactory for use in our RVs! If
you hold a PDA at an angle under our wonderful canopies, you get a great
reflection of the sky which renders the PDA unusable. If you hold the
Garmin PDA in the preferred vertical position for aircraft use, the
antenna will no longer be in the best position. This is not an issue in
autos (unless you drive a convertible) since the roof blocks the sky
reflection.
So...if you must use an external antenna with the Garmin PDA (which may
never have an aviation data base), what is the advantage of it over an
iPAQ with the already proven and widely accepted AnywhereMap system?
Since I began my PDA adventures with a Palm, I appreciate the stability
of the Palm architecture but I defected to the Pocket PC because if its
superior graphics capabilities.
But...it is nice having a lot of options. And Garmin's acknowledgement
that the PDA platform is a viable alternative will only bring more
options to those of us who appreciate the ability to upgrade software
without having to continuosly replace the hardware.
Sam Buchanan
http://home.hiwaay.net/~sbuc/journal/ipaq.htm
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| Subject: | Collins Wiring Diagram |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Chuck Weyant" <chuck@chuckdirect.com>
Need wiring diagram and/or instructions for wiring in my Collins 251comm and 351
nav and
loc/glideslope indicator. I have no paperwork. Help!
Thanks,
Chuck Weyant
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| Subject: | Gutter, rain guard, water guard |
--> RV-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" <lhelming@sigecom.net>
About 7 years ago Jim Stugart wrote, "On the 6, if you open the canopy and
there is a lot of water on it (such as
after a rain) you will get a lot of it inside and on the instruments. I
installed a small gutter ? on to the front of the sub-panel which helps a
lot.
Question for the tip up builders out there: I wonder if anyone might
have a picture of a gutter installed. I assume you would position the
gutter right below, to slightly aft of for the tailwheelers, the gap between
the two skins that occurs when the canopy is opened upward. Looks like some
water could come in even when the canopy is closed and not flying. I don't
plan to be able to keep water or rain out of it entirely so protecting the
electronics and the gutter idea seems to have strong merit. I searched the
archives and aside from Jim's post not too much more on it.
Thanks,
Indiana Larry with finish kit RV7 to be named 3XG (if'n I don't forget to
renew my name reserve)
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| Subject: | Re: Gutter, rain guard, water guard |
--> RV-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com
Being too lazy to implement this idea so far, I resort to sealing my canopy
with duct tape along the front seam whenever I anticipate an overnight
outside in the rain. This is a precaution I take after toasting a kilobuck
worth of transponder from getting rainwater inside the avionics. Since that
happened, I have installed (a new transponder and) silicone caulk under the
canopy forward skin at the seam, but I don't trust this fix, hence the tape.
The gutter sounds like a good idea, but it's not fiberglass-working weather
outside just yet, so it will have to wait til later.
An alternative might be to cover the top of your avionics with something that
sheds water, and let whatever gets in drain onto the floor. I attribute my
Icom A-200's survival to the fact that all the adjustment holes in the
chassis are covered with aluminized foil tape, hence nearly waterproof.
-Bill B
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| Subject: | Re: Collins Wiring Diagram |
--> RV-List message posted by: Dave Bristol <bj034@lafn.org>
Hi Chuck,
I've got both of those books sitting right here on my desk. I'd be happy to scan
the pinout
pages and email them to you. Let me know off list.
Dave RV6 So Cal
do not archive
Chuck Weyant wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Chuck Weyant" <chuck@chuckdirect.com>
>
> Need wiring diagram and/or instructions for wiring in my Collins 251comm and
351 nav and
> loc/glideslope indicator. I have no paperwork. Help!
> Thanks,
> Chuck Weyant
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Ingram <Ingram@SpringfieldElectric.com>
I am about to order the 5 point harness from Simpson. They offer two lengths
in the floor mount "Y" type belt, 55" and 62" anyone out there know which
one is appropriate?
Second question:
I have riveted the bottom and side skins on, after turning the fuselage over
I see there are a couple of spots that the rivets pulled the skin in
creating a small but noticeable low spot. I can remove the rivets and place
a shim in to bring the skin out to a smoother finish but getting a shim in
after some of the riveting is done is tough with the countersinking. Has
anyone tried using a liquid shim such as Metalset A4 Epoxy or Hysol EA9394.
Is seem this would be much easier to use. The skin pops back out to where it
should be when the rivets are removed. You could use this liquid shim to
fill the gap, let cure and then replace the rivets. Any ideas?
Thanks
Ron Ingram
RV6A
Working on the instrument panel and upholstery while it's to cold in the
hanger
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| Subject: | Re: Misc Questions ...liquid shim |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Rick Galati" <rick07x@earthlink.net>
Misc
Questions
Ron,
I have frequently used "liquid shim" with excellent results. I
simply make up a small cup of the West System epoxy with lots of cotton flox
mixed in to a peanut butter consistency. Mask off the area, shove the
"liquid shim" into subject gap and really work to fill in all voids.
Insure some of the liquid shim oozes out the rivet holes. Let cure
overnight. Then clean up rivet holes by redrilling and dressing the
countersink (or dimple). Set your rivets to a pucker free surface.
This is also an excellent material to match hinge halves together to keep the
pins from binding.
Rick Galati
Subject:
Misc Questions
From:
Ron Ingram (Ingram@SpringfieldElectric.com )
Date:
Tue Jan 14 - 1:52
PM
-- RV-List message posted by: Ron Ingram Ingram
Second question:
I have riveted the bottom and side skins on, after turning the fuselage over
I see there are a couple of spots that the rivets pulled the skin in
creating a small but noticeable low spot. I can remove the rivets and place
a shim in to bring the skin out to a smoother finish but getting a shim in
after some of the riveting is done is tough with the countersinking. Has
anyone tried using a liquid shim such as Metalset A4 Epoxy or Hysol EA9394.
Is seem this would be much easier to use. The skin pops back out to where it
should be when the rivets are removed. You could use this liquid shim to
fill the gap, let cure and then replace the rivets. Any ideas?
Thanks
Ron Ingram
RV6A
Working on the instrument panel and upholstery while it's to cold in the
hanger
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| Subject: | Re: Misc Questions |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club" <sisson@mcleodusa.net>
Ron Ingram wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Ron Ingram <Ingram@SpringfieldElectric.com>
>
> I am about to order the 5 point harness from Simpson. They offer two lengths
> in the floor mount "Y" type belt, 55" and 62" anyone out there know which
> one is appropriate?
>
> Second question:
> I have riveted the bottom and side skins on, after turning the fuselage over
> I see there are a couple of spots that the rivets pulled the skin in
> creating a small but noticeable low spot. I can remove the rivets and place
> a shim in to bring the skin out to a smoother finish but getting a shim in
> after some of the riveting is done is tough with the countersinking. Has
> anyone tried using a liquid shim such as Metalset A4 Epoxy or Hysol EA9394.
> Is seem this would be much easier to use. The skin pops back out to where it
> should be when the rivets are removed. You could use this liquid shim to
> fill the gap, let cure and then replace the rivets. Any ideas?
>
> Thanks
> Ron Ingram
> RV6A
> Working on the instrument panel and upholstery while it's to cold in the
> hanger
Ron, you can get shims in with a countersink in them. I put several in after I
noticed different areas like you are describing. most of the ones I put in were
cut countersink and they will push in with some persuasion..I don't know about
the other stuff. "try it" and let us know, there are a lot of good epoxies out
there.
Phil
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| Subject: | SHIM Question and Big hint: was: Misc Questions |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Norman" <jnorman@InterMapSystems.com>
OK, here is my one big hint for the week, and it is in regards to this
question:
SNIP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.
Second question:
> I have riveted the bottom and side skins on, after turning the fuselage
over
> I see there are a couple of spots that the rivets pulled the skin in
> creating a small but noticeable low spot. I can remove the rivets and
place
> a shim in to bring the skin out to a smoother finish but getting a shim in
> after some of the riveting is done is tough with the countersinking.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.
How do those guys with the show planes get their fuselage to be dimple free,
yet you can see every rivet? There is no filler, but every rivet is smooth
and flush with the surface??? This question was asked me about 20 times this
past week at the RV fly-in in Lakeland.
Here is the trick.
When you are done riveting a panel, turn on a light along the long end of a
rivet line so you can see shadows as you put your eye next to the rivet
line. Does this make sense? In other words, position a light so you can see
how even or un-even your rivet line is as you line it up with your eye.
Next, go one rivet at a time and hit them out from the inside. You do this
by taking a flat ended punch (I used my punch that came with my C-frame
rivet tool) and putting it up against the shop head of the rivet, and
hitting it with a hammer lightly. Look, feel, and hit it again, repeat. You
will find that some rivets will not need more than a little tap, while
others will need 4-5 good whacks. Be careful not to go too far...but if you
do, go back to the factory head and give it a very little whack.
Stating the obvious, this will not remove a dent or smile... but it lines up
every rivet into a perfectly smooth rivet line.
If you do this with every rivet, you should not need spacers anywhere on
your plane. Even along the back/top fuselage turtle deck you can do this
trick and have a perfectly smooth skin.
If you don't do this you will see a waver in the rivet line when the plane
is outside in the sun... as the sun will cast shadows where you never saw
them in your garage. One last note... this is very hard to do on a closed
skinned surface like the wings... thus, I riveted the tops of my wings
first, did this trick, then riveted the bottom skins. The sun rarely shines
on the bottom of my wings!
Jim
Tampa
"Razzmatazz"
RV-6A
IO-360 13.6 hours
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| Subject: | Re: Misc Questions ...liquid shim |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jack Textor" <jack@personnelincorporated.com>
Rick,
Could you further explain matching hinge halves together?
Jack Textor
RV8, wings
DSM
Ron,
I have frequently used "liquid shim" with excellent results. I
simply make up a small cup of the West System epoxy with lots of cotton flox
mixed in to a peanut butter consistency. Mask off the area, shove the
"liquid shim" into subject gap and really work to fill in all voids.
Insure some of the liquid shim oozes out the rivet holes. Let cure
overnight. Then clean up rivet holes by redrilling and dressing the
countersink (or dimple). Set your rivets to a pucker free surface.
This is also an excellent material to match hinge halves together to keep
the
pins from binding.
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| Subject: | Airmap 300 to Navaid |
--> RV-List message posted by: John Mcmahon <rv6@earthlink.net>
To anyone out there in RV Land who may have hooked up
a Airmap 300 GPS unit to the Navaid Wing L,give me the two
wire colors that is in the black cable going from GPS to
Navaid unit Please ,Please At this point no luck with Naviad,
Lorance
Thanks
John McMahon RV6 (wiring ,)
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| Subject: | Request for in-flight engine power data |
--> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorto1537@rogers.com>
I am writing a spreadsheet that uses an interesting method of
calculating power output for Lycoming engines. I acquired an old
Lycoming document that explains how to calculate power based on fuel
flow and the amount the EGT is rich or lean of peak EGT. The method
is apparently based on a bunch of runs in the test cell, where fuel
flow, EGT, rpm and power output were measured. Lycoming determined
that for a given rpm and manifold pressure that peak power was
achieved with the mixture set to give an EGT of about 115 deg F rich
of peak EGT. They used the test cell data to determine relationships
between EGT delta from peak, specific fuel consumption, horsepower,
friction horsepower etc.
So, in theory, with inputs of engine displacement, rpm, EGT delta
from peak EGT and fuel flow, it should be possible to calculate the
power output. I crafted a spreadsheet that uses this method, and now
I want to get some data to see whether this method appears to give
reasonable results in the real world. I am concerned that variations
in the accuracy of fuel flow systems, variations in EGT probe
locations, etc may mean that this method is not useable outside the
test cell.
If this method works, it would be useable by aircraft with EGT and
fuel flow indicators. Manifold pressure is not required, so this may
be especially useful for aircraft with fixed-pitch props, as many of
them do not have manifold pressure gauges.
In order to assess the usefulness of this method, I am looking for
data from aircraft with Lycoming engines of 235, 320, 360 and 540
cubic inch displacement and constant-speed props (the CS prop is
needed to get data at consistent MP and rpm combinations). I intend
to compare power calculations with this method, vs the more
traditional power chart method using rpm, MP, altitude and
temperature. I need the following data at a range of altitudes and
power settings:
For each test point record the following data:
1. Altitude,
2. air temperature,
3. rpm,
4. manifold pressure,
5. how many degrees the EGT is rich or lean of peak and
6. fuel flow.
Ideally, I would like to get several sets of fuel flow vs EGT at each
altitude and power condition. If possible, it would be good to get
some points at peak EGT, one point lean of peak EGT and several
conditions rich of peak EGT, including at about 115 deg F rich of
peak EGT (or 64 deg C rich of peak). The peak EGT and lean of peak
EGT are probably only possible at lower power, and may not be a good
idea for many engines. Be cautious - don't hurt your engine.
Also indicate:
1. the engine model,
2. type of ignition system,
3. carburetor, fuel injection, or Ellison throttle body injector,
4. any engine mods,
5. EGT units (F or C),
6. fuel flow units,
7. whether the fuel flow and tachometer have been checked for
accuracy (and if so, roughly how long ago).
8. If you know the spread in fuel flow between when the first and
last cylinder hits peak EGT I would like to get this data too.
To check your manifold pressure gauge accuracy, please go to an
airfield that issues an altimeter setting, and has a known field
elevation. With the engine stopped, record the manifold pressure,
altimeter setting and field elevation.
Once I get a few sets of data, I will crunch it to see whether this
method seems to be useful. If I judge it useful I will publish the
spreadsheet.
Please send the data direct to me at khorto1537@rogers.com. Don't
send it to the list.
Thanks,
--
Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
Ottawa, Canada
http://go.phpwebhosting.com/~khorton/rv8/
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| Subject: | Re: T-410 reinforcement plate |
--> RV-List message posted by: RV4PatA@aol.com
In a message dated 1/14/3 6:44:30 AM, luckymacy@hotmail.com writes:
<<
Hypothetically, if one left the plate off, could the pro seal alone fill the
gaps around the rib leading edge flange cutouts and seal the tank
satisfactorily?
lucky
>>
Yes, it probably would, but I think the key word here is reinforcement. It's
not hard to put it in there to help strengthen the area. You may want to
stick to the plans on this one. Just my humble opinion.
Pat Allender RV-4
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| Subject: | Re: Gutter, rain guard, water guard |
--> RV-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" <lhelming@sigecom.net>
Bill: Sounds like your experience has been good with the Icom A-200 and its
water shedding ability. I will think some more on this. Covering inside
equipment with waterproof material is another possible idea and makes me
want to consider heat build up.
Thanks for your response.
Indiana Larry with 3XG reserved for TW RV7 (TW=TailWheel)
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From: <SportAV8R@aol.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Gutter, rain guard, water guard
> --> RV-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com
>
> Being too lazy to implement this idea so far, I resort to sealing my
canopy
> with duct tape along the front seam whenever I anticipate an overnight
> outside in the rain. snip.......
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| Subject: | Re: Airmap 300 to Navaid |
--> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
John, I have the Airmap 100 wired to the Navaid and I suspect the same
wiring scheme would apply to the 300.
Here is the link on Lowrance's site to the Airmap 300 manual:
http://www.lowrance.com/Manuals/Files/AM300_0129-73.pdf
Once you have it opened in Acrobat, go to page 67 to see the diagram for
connecting the NMEA data line to external devices. Of course, if you
still have your manual, you can skip the downloading stuff. ;-)
Sam Buchanan
==========================
John Mcmahon wrote:
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: John Mcmahon <rv6@earthlink.net>
>
> To anyone out there in RV Land who may have hooked up
> a Airmap 300 GPS unit to the Navaid Wing L,give me the two
> wire colors that is in the black cable going from GPS to
> Navaid unit Please ,Please At this point no luck with Naviad,
> Lorance
> Thanks
> John McMahon RV6 (wiring ,)
>
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| Subject: | Re: T-410 reinforcement plate |
--> RV-List message posted by: "lucky macy" <luckymacy@hotmail.com>
Howdy all,
I've had a fun day answering about a dozen private replies back to me on
this subject.
As I wrote back to most folks, my original question was not parsed by many
the way I had intended. I never had any intentions of leaving the plates off
the inside of the ribs. I just wanted knowledgeable builders to give me
some feedback as to how good pro seal is as a sealer.
Turns out I called Ken at Van's today to ask why when you order a flop tube
you don't automatically also get a solid access cover plate or at least a
note in the catalog in the flop tube section that you might want to consider
getting a separately solid access cover (part T-111, I think) and a couple
of other questions concerning the SW sender setup in the second bay. BTW,
anyone know where's there's some good pictures of how the SW sender is
mounted to the baffle for the flop tube mod?
I also asked about the reinforcement plate and the need for it to be a snug
fit or not. Shockingly, he said that for many years RV kits did not show or
supply this part at all. That his own RV did not have any doubler on the
tank ribs. It's a relatively recent addition to the kits. The idea came
from a Van's prototype builder who put the plate in to reinforce the area
for his flop tube. Van's liked the idea and it only added a couple of
ounces so they absorbed it into the kit. With or without the reinforcement
plate, all that's needed to seal the ribs is a good fillet of proseal. A
couple of other tips he gave were to get a finishing nail on a stick and
make sure each rivet was seated all the way in before one rivets as pro seal
is not compressible and the rivet will tend to stay out when riveted if it
starts out. He also was not keen on the proseal and cleco later method. He
wants the aluminum drawn together tightly to help squeeze out and air
pockets that might be in the pro seal. He didn't like a lot of proseal used
liberally. He said it was better just to proseal around rivet holes instead
of smearing it like butter all over reinforcement angle, for example. Less
is more would be his philosophy.
thanks again for all the replies,
lucky
----- Original Message -----
From: <RV4PatA@aol.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: T-410 reinforcement plate
> --> RV-List message posted by: RV4PatA@aol.com
>
>
> In a message dated 1/14/3 6:44:30 AM, luckymacy@hotmail.com writes:
>
> <<
> Hypothetically, if one left the plate off, could the pro seal alone fill
the
> gaps around the rib leading edge flange cutouts and seal the tank
> satisfactorily?
>
> lucky
> >>
> Yes, it probably would, but I think the key word here is reinforcement.
It's
> not hard to put it in there to help strengthen the area. You may want to
> stick to the plans on this one. Just my humble opinion.
>
> Pat Allender RV-4
>
>
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| Subject: | SW fuel sender mount for inverted tank |
--> RV-List message posted by: "lucky macy" <luckymacy@hotmail.com>
whose got pictures of how the SW type sender was installed in the second bay
on the baffle? Did you make a reinforcement ring with nutplates and put
that on the inside of the baffle or just put nutplates directly to the
baffle and leave the sender mounted on the outside of the baffle?
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| Subject: | Re: T-410 reinforcement plate |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Curt Hoffman" <choffman9@cinci.rr.com>
That would be a great thing to test- on someone else's tank. Once you have
made your tank the last thing you are going to want is a leak because there
is no getting that puppy apart. For the small time it takes to get a good
fit of the reinforcement plate I wouldn't try my luck.
Curt Hoffman
RV-9A wings
1968 Mustang 302 convertible
Piper Cherokee N5320W
----- Original Message -----
From: "lucky macy" <luckymacy@hotmail.com>
Subject: RV-List: T-410 reinforcement plate
> --> RV-List message posted by: "lucky macy" <luckymacy@hotmail.com>
>
> How critical is it to have a snug fit all around the wing skin leading
edge
> by the T-410 reinforcement plate that fits on the inside of each off the
two
> outer wing tank ribs?
>
> I've never seen proseal but from what I gather it is not only sticky but
is
> an excellent gap filler and remains pliable enough not to break seal due
to
> vibration and temperature conditions.
>
> Hypothetically, if one left the plate off, could the pro seal alone fill
the
> gaps around the rib leading edge flange cutouts and seal the tank
> satisfactorily?
>
> lucky
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Tracy Crook" <lors01@msn.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andy Karmy" <andy@karmy.com>
Subject: RV-List: Cowl prep
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Andy Karmy" <andy@karmy.com>
>
> Ok, for those of you that flew before painting...
>
> How much work do you put into the cowl surfaces? I followed Van's
instructions to sand it down and brush with Acetone thinned epoxy, but after
2 coats it's not level that's for sure. Seems to me that if I'm not going to
paint right now that it's wasted effort to chase after surface perfection
and pinholes etc, RIGHT???
>
> - Andy Karmy
> RV9A Seattle WA
> Almost there...If I get past sanding fiberglass...
This sounds like Van's advice for the INTERIOR surfaces of the cowl to
prevent oil from seeping into the hexcell core. I can't imagine that it
would be a good idea to brush on epoxy on the 'shiny side'.
Tracy Crook
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| Subject: | Re: SW fuel sender mount for inverted tank |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Steve Struyk" <rv8striker@hotmail.com>
I checked my digital photos and can not find a picture of mine.
I split the reinforcement ring in one place to enable insertion inside.
Installed nutplates on the baffle (dimpled) and ring (countersunk),
prosealed the cover plate directly to the baffle (no gasket) and put the
sender on the cover plate with proseal as well. Leak tested just fine.
Hope this helps
Steve Struyk
N842S (Res.)
St. Charles, MO
----- Original Message -----
From: "lucky macy" <luckymacy@hotmail.com>
Subject: RV-List: SW fuel sender mount for inverted tank
> --> RV-List message posted by: "lucky macy" <luckymacy@hotmail.com>
>
> whose got pictures of how the SW type sender was installed in the second
bay
> on the baffle? Did you make a reinforcement ring with nutplates and put
> that on the inside of the baffle or just put nutplates directly to the
> baffle and leave the sender mounted on the outside of the baffle?
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: SW fuel sender mount for inverted tank |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Steve Struyk" <rv8striker@hotmail.com>
I checked my digital photos and can not find a picture of mine.
I split the reinforcement ring in one place to enable insertion inside.
Installed nutplates on the baffle (dimpled) and ring (countersunk),
prosealed the cover plate directly to the baffle (no gasket) and put the
sender on the cover plate with proseal as well. Leak tested just fine.
Hope this helps
Steve Struyk
N842S (Res.)
St. Charles, MO
----- Original Message -----
From: "lucky macy" <luckymacy@hotmail.com>
Subject: RV-List: SW fuel sender mount for inverted tank
> --> RV-List message posted by: "lucky macy" <luckymacy@hotmail.com>
>
> whose got pictures of how the SW type sender was installed in the second
bay
> on the baffle? Did you make a reinforcement ring with nutplates and put
> that on the inside of the baffle or just put nutplates directly to the
> baffle and leave the sender mounted on the outside of the baffle?
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: SW fuel sender mount for inverted tank |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Neil McLeod" <neilmcleod@direcway.com>
I have some pics of my installation, i made some reinforcing rings out of
the not used root ribs plates and ordered blank plate to cover the root rib
opening.
Neil
----- Original Message -----
From: "lucky macy" <luckymacy@hotmail.com>
Subject: RV-List: SW fuel sender mount for inverted tank
> --> RV-List message posted by: "lucky macy" <luckymacy@hotmail.com>
>
> whose got pictures of how the SW type sender was installed in the second
bay
> on the baffle? Did you make a reinforcement ring with nutplates and put
> that on the inside of the baffle or just put nutplates directly to the
> baffle and leave the sender mounted on the outside of the baffle?
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: KAKlewin@aol.com
opps...I did it...sorry..this should have not gone to the list..
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Dave von Linsowe" <davevon@tir.com>
I'm looking for any clever ideas for filling the holes where my external
antennas were.
The airplane is not painted so I don't want to use any filler. I was
thinking of replacing the doubler where the antenna was and riveting in a
plug where the hole in the skin is. Which will probably work fine for the
ELT antenna hole. The problem is with the other antennas that have multiple
mounting bolt holes too.
Thanks,
Dave
RV-6
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